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Post by Umbrella on Oct 17, 2017 3:51:04 GMT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Oct 17, 2017 4:02:03 GMT
Right I enjoy inducing speculation and all so I'm going to continue that trendWill respond to Dle's twilight posts D2 because my response might have more impact then.
/me schemes
Tee hee I'm just joking. What does this even mean? Do you think scum would come forward saying "Oh I killed mmc bc I read him as a PR" lolol nice one champo Unlynch mmcneil28; Lynch Champ1604This seems more like filler than actually ftrying to help town; and if that's supposed to be protown you're not doing a good job Unlynch unless you have a better reason (such as champ being scum asking for vig claim). Asking about the why the nk happened is not scummy. Also, I claimed the shot, so your 2nd line is meaningless. mmcneil would've definitely been under the lynch for today, and from a townie who didn't make the kill's perspective, the death is indeed strange.
Heya bbs I'm town xx Zorquax is a qt So we should... Lynch mmcneil I didn't like your reaction to the death ... I don't like the grab at three different appeal to emotion's here. - Claims town in the way you would when texting - compliments Zorquax to try and get him / her on their side and the main one that triggers my radar the most - Tries to "townslip" by lynching mmcneil, even though it was clearly shown that he died in a bold post. Furthermore, they post right afterwards with "tee hee just joking", probably because they noticed this post is scummy as hell.
- Pwind throws a Scum-read on Champ for the post death post. Indication of someone being lazy and not reading the thread. If that is truly all Pwind could grasp from an entire read through then something is wrong.
-Post that falls in line with VigVig/ODM/Toni 's MO. Nothing substantial to offer between all the fluff one-liners.
-Why respond to Pwind and not me >:(
- Why stop your analysis of the follow up post at the very first line?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Oct 17, 2017 4:04:27 GMT
Finally as a PSA:
Will be here all day , until deadline.
Reads:
Scum-reads: VigVig/OM/Pwind
Not giving Tr's until they matter. In my opinion giving them now would do more harm than good.
Goodnight.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Oct 17, 2017 4:30:58 GMT
>-Why scum read Dle for not speaking this day phase? He mentioned earlier being unable to read up. Granted it has been 4 days.I forgot about his post regarding activity. My bad. >-What on earth has ODM as neutral for you? He's at the same content level as Toni.ODM has low content level, but his posts don't seem forced like Toni's. No real reason for me to read him as scum or town. >Circular reasoning implemented for your Champ read.Only if PWind flips scum. >A flavour claim is enough to warrant a town-read?Among other things, yes. Right now, Animole seems like lazy town to me. Hasn't made any real reads or contributions to the discussion though. Unlynch unless you have a better reason (such as champ being scum asking for vig claim). Asking about the why the nk happened is not scummy. Also, I claimed the shot, so your 2nd line is meaningless. mmcneil would've definitely been under the lynch for today, and from a townie who didn't make the kill's perspective, the death is indeed strange. This post is fucking gorgeous, can I just say that rq? I-is my post really gorgeus? Also, what is rq?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Oct 17, 2017 4:31:27 GMT
real quick
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 17, 2017 16:42:28 GMT
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 17, 2017 16:43:11 GMT
Votecount 2.1******************************Champ∞1604(1)- PartingWind VigilanteVigoroth(1)- ForgotToFlush Spieky(1)- VigilanteVigoroth PartingWind(1)- ScorrchingTheaph OM Room(0)-ForgotToFlush(0)-shubaka17(0)-ODM(0)-tonithetourguide(0)- Drookez(0)-animallover77(0)-ScorrchingTheaph(0)-daletterel(0)-brettwhite(0)-Not Voting(10)-OM~! , shubaka17 , incognito , Spieky , Crespo , Drookez , Umbrella , daletterel , brettwhite , PartingWind ******************************There are 14 alive so it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday the 17th at 9:00 PM EST. If the deadline were now, Champ∞1604 would be lynched. I am in the process of searching for more subs.
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Oct 17, 2017 16:59:14 GMT
Y'all were tagged get over here and give me players to play with
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Oct 17, 2017 17:05:42 GMT
First of all, nothing posted since my last round of posts, such a shame.
Secondly plur is on Champ due to Pwind's bs vote that Scorch already completely debunked. Deadline is in eight hours so a shift is highly recommended.
Thirdly Scorch, please divulge more role details. Not asking for a full claim but assist us in making the picture clearer.
Re: Scorch
-I asked a lot of questions about your reads and you answered them all as if there's nothing wrong with them .-.
-I said your reasoning was circular and you responded with said reasoning.
-One response that sticks out in particular:
How is Toni's content forced?
It's too mediocre and empty to be forced in my opinion.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Oct 17, 2017 17:07:22 GMT
Y'all were tagged get over here and give me players to play with |
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Oct 17, 2017 18:07:09 GMT
FTF what you said about me could literally have been said about half of the player lists -_- "FTF what you said about me could literally have been said about half of the player lists -_-"
"To summarize:
-Strives to remain neutral, most likely out of fear of retaliation.
It was day 1. With the current activity its hard to make a solid read
-Has no reads
Literally 90% of the PL didnt make a read
-Fillers
Filler happens at the start of day 1 all the time. Granted I could have put more effort in but I didnt have time (alot of players did this)
-Looking for excuses to group on a lynch.
So, bandwagoning? I agreed that vet was the best lynch, and so I lynched him. (this also falls under alot of other players in the game)
-Attempts to sympathize with Vet after lynching them.
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I dont see what I did as sympathising with vet. I told him to defend himself, just like what you are asking me to do
In what fucking universe?? Half the player list? I didn't see half the player list warming up to vet. Didn't see half the player list going out of their way to remain neutral. Didn't see half the player list filler-ing.
I saw half the playerlist fillering. I saw alot of neutral players.
I normally have very little reads d1. I can guarantee rn though that FTF is town. A lot of players rn are just too nonexistent to get s solid read on If you want examples. Spieky, Toni, Ani, ODM. They have all been here fairly frequently but are yet to post any reads or anything of use really
I know, but I'm not the only one guilty.I'm also very confused about your last point? I told Vet to defend himself because that's how mafia works. The person being lynched is meant to defend themselves
you are doing this to me. Telling me to defend the points made against me in an aggressive manner. this isn't a reason to scumread somebody since you are doing it too
before i even say anything about what's happening right now, it's time for a Wagon Watch since yesterday's lynch flipped town pretty solid/not meaningless reasoning here, even though it's got a bit of a personal vendetta that doesn't come across to me as a scummy vote. (just realized he died last night, gonna leave this here since it took some effort to put here) classic scapegoating. while inactivity may be a valid reason to lynch someone it's also a valid way for scum to hop on the wagon. if I was looking at this from a cynical point of view i would say that you were digging for reasons to hop on the wagon. what's more likely is that this was day 1 and this was the only major thing that happens so l'll give this the benefit of the doubt for now. literally no reasoning given, except for: "people (not me btw) are accusing you. i'm not involved in this (even though i'm currently voting you) because i know you're going to flip town." this really comes off as scummy to me. scum reading vigvig for now. meme logic, or at the very least voting as a "joke" in order to hide from being read solid reasoning, calling out hypocrisy/inconsistency isn't something scum generally does to get on the wagon. - FROM THIS DATA ALONE: scum reads: vigvig null reads: ODM town reads: forgottoflush, scorrching didn't vote: shubaka, drookez, animallover, daletterel, brettwhite, fartingwind, toni, champ, OM
-It was never about Vet's inactivity. More so that Vet was active and actively chose not to respond to comments and accusations made.
-My initial accusation had me scum-reading them for the early post questioning the Rule 8 reasoning.
Call it OMGUS if you want, but I'm gonna lynch spieky You call me a scumread for bandwagoning, yet are cool with ODM who didn't give a reason either? Seems to me like someone just wants to blend in
-Okay so earlier you made a point out of saying that half of the PL was inactive. Here Spieky offers a substantial amount of content and you reduce it to blending in? In addition to directly contradicting previous defense statements you also attempt to dismiss all arguments raised with a vague blanket statement.1. "heya bbs im town xx" is a Hawkie quote. NAI 2. Zorquax ◕‿◕ isn't in. still NAI. (also shows that OM isn't paying attention .-.) 3. How is this a townslip? The scum nk was most likely NOT mmcneil28. I claimed the shot (why is no one commenting on this btw?). Scum's strat would've been to kill someone else and then push an easy lynch on neil. Looking back at this, I actually think that this is PW scumslipping because they did not realize that neil died. Scum was probably blocked or target was protected. inb4 snow white witch thing is poisner The "tee hee joking" seems like backpedalling after PW realized who actually died. Reasoning behind PW's lynch on Champ is also weak. lynch PartingWind >_<rest of my reads: OM Room: slight town lean ForgotToFlush: town Champ∞1604: neutral (town lean when PW flips scum) shubaka17: idk ODM: neutral Spieky: town lean tonithetourguide: slight scum lean (posts are pretty filler) Drookez: rule 8 (waiting on his post…) VigilanteVigoroth: scum lean animallover77: town lean (for claiming flavor) ScorrchingTheaph: obv sk daletterel: scum lean (why have they not spoken this day-phase?) brettwhite: .l brettwhite (shouldve policied this d1) I also want to know, has anyone caught my flavor soft? (see my second post d1 where I lynched spieky) Just say yes or nO.
-What on earth has ODM as neutral for you? He's at the same content level as Toni.
-Circular reasoning implemented for your Champ read.
-A flavour claim is enough to warrant a town-read?
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Oct 17, 2017 18:07:41 GMT
that is hard to read sorry, but I commented on the top half in bold in the quote
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Oct 17, 2017 18:08:45 GMT
ForgotToFlush will you be here in like 3 hours? I dont want to be shifted on, forced to claim, and then not able to be unlynched
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Oct 17, 2017 18:57:01 GMT
"FTF what you said about me could literally have been said about half of the player lists -_-"
"To summarize:
-Strives to remain neutral, most likely out of fear of retaliation.
It was day 1. With the current activity its hard to make a solid read
-Has no reads
Literally 90% of the PL didnt make a read
-Fillers
Filler happens at the start of day 1 all the time. Granted I could have put more effort in but I didnt have time (alot of players did this)
-Looking for excuses to group on a lynch.
So, bandwagoning? I agreed that vet was the best lynch, and so I lynched him. (this also falls under alot of other players in the game)
-Attempts to sympathize with Vet after lynching them.
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I dont see what I did as sympathising with vet. I told him to defend himself, just like what you are asking me to do
In what fucking universe?? Half the player list? I didn't see half the player list warming up to vet. Didn't see half the player list going out of their way to remain neutral. Didn't see half the player list filler-ing.
I saw half the playerlist fillering. I saw alot of neutral players.
If the only read you can put together is a town read on the one attacking you, especially when other people have come forward to town read said attacker, then you're proving my point. You have nothing to offer.So if i bandwagon, im scum. If I provide a different opinion to others, Im scum. If I remain neutral, im scum. Make your mind upNaming examples does not absolve you of accusations. You are also guilty of things that they are not.
I know, but I'm not the only one guilty.They're meant to. Does not mean that it's sensible for you to be simultaneously begging them for a defense statement and attacking them. Very blatant mixed intent.
you are doing this to me. Telling me to defend the points made against me in an aggressive manner. this isn't a reason to scumread somebody since you are doing it too
Ahaaaa
-It was never about Vet's inactivity. More so that Vet was active and actively chose not to respond to comments and accusations made.
-My initial accusation had me scum-reading them for the early post questioning the Rule 8 reasoning.
"wants to blend in"
-Okay so earlier you made a point out of saying that half of the PL was inactive. Here Spieky offers a substantial amount of content and you reduce it to blending in? In addition to directly contradicting previous defense statements you also attempt to dismiss all arguments raised with a vague blanket statement.-Why scum read Dle for not speaking this day phase? He mentioned earlier being unable to read up. Granted it has been 4 days.
-What on earth has ODM as neutral for you? He's at the same content level as Toni.
-Circular reasoning implemented for your Champ read.
-A flavour claim is enough to warrant a town-read?
-Saying 90% of the Pl does nit have reads does not excuse the fact that you have none either.
-"Filler happens at the start of day 1 all the time. Granted I could have put more effort in but I didnt have time (alot of players did this)" :
Concession and rebuttal. Your inadequate rebuttal. Does not change my point.
-I'm not explicitly asking you to defend yourself. In addition the context of the 2 situations are widely different. You prompted Vet to defend themselves in order to play both sides. I'm pressuring you for responses since your previous responses have been proven inadequate.
-"I saw half the playerlist fillering. I saw alot of neutral players.":
I-say you-say. You have me speaking pig latin here but my points still stand. You're throwing the blanket over half the PL in an attempt to absolve yourself of accusations made in your direction.
-"So, bandwagoning? I agreed that vet was the best lynch, and so I lynched him. (this also falls under alot of other players in the game)":
Missing the point again. I made it clear that you have no distinguishable opinion. This does not mean that you are being read for a conflicting opinion, nor does it mean being read remaining neutral in the face of a prominent event. It certainly does not mean that I scum-read you for the bandwagon. What it means is that we can completely ignore your posts and not lose anything of value. You hopping on this lynch was equivalent to a lurker hopping on. There was no real input and you just sheep-ed without having much to say. You didn't mention which points in particular you agree with. You didn't give any opinions or thoughts on Vet's behaviour. You let someone else do the work for you and now you're trying to pretend as if you had an equal share in the decision.
-"So if i bandwagon, im scum. If I provide a different opinion to others, Im scum. If I remain neutral, im scum. Make your mind up":
You stripped away all distinguishable details that I used to make my point in order to make it look like a tunnel. In addition I'm referring to your read on Spieky, not your lynch on Vet. This response is out of place. My scum-read on you has an extremely distinct, recognizable reason. While you may not readily associate or attribute these qualities with a scum-read, it means that there is no way you should be getting mixed messages from this.
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I know, but I'm not the only one guilty.":
Do you admit to being guilty?
-"you are doing this to me. Telling me to defend the points made against me in an aggressive manner. this isn't a reason to scum-read somebody since you are doing it too":
Don't get it twisted. My intent here is very clear. I want you lynched and I will continue to respond to as many of your counterarguments as I need to. Your responses thus far have not been enough to warrant an un-lynch.
ForgotToFlush will you be here in like 3 hours? I dont want to be shifted on, forced to claim, and then not able to be unlynched
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Oct 17, 2017 19:00:53 GMT
A claim in a closed setup does very little until after the flip.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Oct 17, 2017 20:59:40 GMT
>Thirdly Scorch, please divulge more role details. Not asking for a full claim but assist us in making the picture clearer.I had a Vig shot and used it on mmcneil. >I asked a lot of questions about your reads and you answered them all as if there's nothing wrong with them .-.I admitted that my read on DLE was unwarranted, and I elaborated on how my read on Animole was not just based on the flavor claim. >I said your reasoning was circular and you responded with said reasoning.Champ is a neutral read as of right now. That is all. >One response that sticks out in particular: "ODM has low content level, but his posts don't seem forced like Toni's. No real reason for me to read him as scum or town." How is Toni's content forced? It's too mediocre and empty to be forced in my opinion.ODM: 1. "lynch ftf" (rvs) 2. "if you know anything about me you know i'm all for a brionne wagon unlynch ftf lynch veteran brionne" (obv bandwagon) Toni: 1. "rule 8 my friends... rule 8 Lynch Drookez" (rvs) 2. "Nice "I'm new so I'm bad at this" meta." (weak contribution, responding to mmcneil) 3. "Isn't that guys name like Hakuro" (filler, responding to animole) 4. "Ok so neil was a tracker?" (filler + incorrect information) 5. "imo PartingWind and Drookez should say something" (calling out lurkers when he himself has not contributed anything of meaning) ODM hasn't said enough for me to give any meaningful read. Toni's post seem like filler to me. Tagging VigilanteVigoroth Please shift to PartingWind or I'll shift to you. A Champ lynch rn is bs.
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Post by shubaka17 on Oct 17, 2017 21:43:47 GMT
[bold]vote drookez[/bold]
who did i even use my action on last night
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Oct 17, 2017 21:56:58 GMT
I don't think we should lynch PartingWind today.
Gdi Ultimatums. I'll avoid it by unlynching and lynching Champ
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Oct 17, 2017 22:33:05 GMT
unlynch PartingWind >_<
lynch VigilanteVigoroth
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Post by daletterel on Oct 18, 2017 0:19:27 GMT
Vv dropping the come at me bro is towny not scummy
vote champ
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Post by daletterel on Oct 18, 2017 0:20:12 GMT
Sorry for the lack of attention I've given this but I think this vote is pretty good off of tone
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 18, 2017 2:13:19 GMT
Votecount 2.1******************************Champ∞1604(3)- PartingWind , VigilanteVigoroth , daletterel VigilanteVigoroth(2)- ForgotToFlush , ScorrchingTheaph PartingWind(0)- Spieky(0)-
OM Room(0)-ForgotToFlush(0)-shubaka17(0)-ODM(0)-tonithetourguide(0)- Drookez(0)-animallover77(0)-ScorrchingTheaph(0)-daletterel(0)-brettwhite(0)-Not Voting(9)-OM~! , shubaka17 , incognito , Spieky , Crespo , Drookez , Umbrella , brettwhite ******************************There are 14 alive so it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday the 17th at 9:00 PM EST. Champ∞1604 was lynched. They were: Dear Champ1604, You are Rapunzel (Tangled)!  "I promise. And when I promise something, I never, ever, break that promise. Ever!"More than the standard princess in the tower, you eventually managed to escape in order to fulfill your dream of seeing and exploring the outside world. Your golden hair is an astonishing 70 feet long, and when you sing it glows with the power to heal others. Your role is Doctor. At night you may target 1 player. They will be protected from 1 attack made against them that night. You will not know if you successfully protected your target from an attack. You are aligned with the Heroes. You win when all threats to the Heroes have been eliminated. Good luck! Deadline is Thursday the 19th at 09:00 PM.
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 20, 2017 3:10:31 GMT
I'm going to do the thing that happened last anon.
It's supposed to be deadline, but I shall extend for a day as I need to find subs still.
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blazeboy20
Silenced Treestump
how to forum pls
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Post by blazeboy20 on Oct 20, 2017 16:22:40 GMT
(need a sub?)
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Post by Fenrir on Oct 21, 2017 1:15:30 GMT
I can add you to the list, although right now I was able to find as many subs as were needed. During the night, the following substitutions happened: qtball subbed in for brettwhite. Mob Boss subbed in for ToniTheTourGuide. Bomb Moss subbed in for ODM. Nobody died last night. Day 3 commence!Votecount 3.0******************************OM Room(0)-ForgotToFlush(0)-shubaka17(0)-Bomb Moss(0)-Spieky(0)-Mob Boss(0)- Drookez(0)-VigilanteVigoroth(0)- animallover77(0)-ScorrchingTheaph(0)-daletterel(0)-Thunder~BALLZ(0)-PartingWind(0)-Not Voting(13)-OM~! , ForgotToFlush , shubaka17 , Bomb Moss , Spieky , Mob Boss , Drookez , VigilanteVigoroth , Umbrella , ScorrchingTheaph , daletterel , qtball , PartingWind ******************************There are 13 alive so it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is Monday the 23rd at 9:00 PM EST. |
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