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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 27, 2017 16:03:07 GMT
i feel like most of the conflict is due to intentional misunderstanding (or unintentional idk) of content. i'd like to first establish that not every post about a person is attacking them or commending them. some posts are simply commenting on activity without a particular purpose (i.e. my post on cseel; it was an attempt to do the same thing i did with ODM but it didn't work out as nicely) ScorrchingTheaph i think this was directed at you?? or maybe it was skarm i get confused sometimes I'm not entirely sure what you're @-ing me for, but if it's about the misunderstanding, I think it was unintentional and probably my fault for bad wording. I'll try to explain again I guess. When I said "The fact that cseel has been tunneling YS makes me townread them," my meaning was unclear because of the word "them." When I said that I "townread them" I meant cseel, but since I worded it weirdly, cseel interpreted this as me saying I "townread YS." I don't think this was intentional because I honestly phrased it badly. Context (bold/italic is cseel, rest is me): The fact that cseel has been tunneling YS ma kes me townread them. So because I'm tunneling YS, you townread YS? Why? I don't see scum pushing a single player for a lynch for 4 days in a row. Then are you calling me town? And if so why would me tunneling YS make you townread him? I don't like how they are deflecting all accusations of hammering to ODM, This shouldn't matter too much to you as you think hammering wasn't a big deal. when cseel herself still lynched EC after hammer under the assumption that she was hammering. THANKS FOR BEING A FENRIR AND IGNORING MY EXPLANATION.
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 27, 2017 16:05:26 GMT
i was referring to another post.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 27, 2017 16:07:10 GMT
Ok then I don't know what you are referring to or even if you're referring to me or YS.
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 27, 2017 16:08:10 GMT
I don't see why hammering was such a big deal. Most people were scumreading EC and wanted him lynched. No one was strongly against it, so I don't see how a few more hours of discussion really mattered there. At the time, I don't think anyone would've shifted off of EC even if no one had hammered. Waiting for plurality would've been a waste of time in my opinion. I'm not really liking Jav's reaction. Why scum read someone for hammering someone pretty much everyone thought was scum? Also, why accuse cseel of fillering when it was extremely obvious that they were just shitposting? That's just pointing out the obvious, and honestly I don't think it's a valid reason to scum read. Jav questions ODM about the hammer yet actively denies scumreading ODM. Something just doesn't add up for me. The fact that cseel has been tunneling YS makes me townread them. I don't see scum pushing a single player for a lynch for 4 days in a row. I don't like how they are deflecting all accusations of hammering to ODM, when cseel herself still lynched EC after hammer under the assumption that she was hammering. I reread the most recent posts from YS's iso and I'm starting to question my early townread on them. It seems like YS is trying overly hard to act townie by justifying his posts over and over, but never giving any strong opinions. On the other hand, he's done pro-town things too, such as suggesting hypo and attempting to gamesolve by looking at possible role combinations. Looking back on his readlist, I take issue with some of the things he has said, now that there have been a few flips. A lot of his readlist was simply asking for more activity, which I take as NAI. I don't understand why YS was scumreading FTF, especially when he even mentioned specifically that Flush got on Toni and shifted. YS doesn't explain why he was reading FTF as having bussed Toni. The read on Spiderz smells really fishy to me, considering that Spiderz flipped as Town PR. The Day 2 wagon felt like scum trying to push a mislynch on Town PR to me, and I'm starting to suspect YS for it. A lot of YS's explanation is just a summary of what happened involving Spiderz, and he doesn't really explain why he reads Spiderz as "null-scum." YS also says that he "somewhat believes" Spiderz's claim, but doesn't back up why. Finally, YS says he'd be ok with a Spiderz lynch, but then says, "i'd prefer not to lose a town PR, but if he is town roleblocker/maf roleblocker then that helps with the other 2 prs anyway." This line doesn't really make sense to me, because how do you scum read someone and also believe that they are town PR at the same time? Context: ForgotToFlush - Null-scum. Gets on RADicate during RVS, gets off and onto Toni, then when i lynch Toni to stay alive he gets on me (makes sense), pushes me a lot, then gets off me later because i've relaxed, after some time of not really pushing. Then gets on Toni, shifting. Fine with a lynch on them, probably the one i'm most confident about being scum. Spiderz - Null-scum. Jumps on Toni when he arrives, putting a 6th lynch on them, claims that Toni is "conf SK", then randomly gets off and onto vigvig with "Reasons that will be bad for town if he says them", then he says he doesnt want to claim but might have to "to save town from being stupid", then when VigVig claims mason he gets on EC and says he autolynches vigvig if anyone ccs mason, asks for Toni's PR after translating zor's posts, then claims town white bishop (i somewhat believe) and also says that citrus is scum because no kill, then gets off after a bit of being pointed out that some other way could've stopped kill, then says "if you mean by outing myself outing myself as scum i never did that" is a somewhat scummy line (i can see where slip came from that), then pushes zor. He's new, but this is really interesting slot right now. I'd be ok i guess with a lynch on spiderz though i'd prefer not to lose a town PR, but if he is town roleblocker/maf roleblocker then that helps with the other 2 prs anyway. I also don't like how YS responded to Jav's accusation of bandwagonning. No one else was even on the cseel lynch, meaning plurality was still on Xnadrojx (who still hasn't said anything). Admitting to bandwaggoning and saying you "reread and don't see anything scummy" is not good reasoning. I would appreciate if YS gave an updated readlist. boop
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Post by OM~! on Nov 27, 2017 18:40:41 GMT
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Post by vigvignotwasting2000thpost on Nov 27, 2017 18:48:36 GMT
cseel can you start protecting me thanks
lynch odm
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 27, 2017 19:03:46 GMT
Reading back on ODM, they're definitely a SR for me looking at them. Probably buddying me, when i look at it closer. Going to Lynch ODM.
Haven't had the time to read up on others, will do that later.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 21:50:36 GMT
cseel can you start protecting me thanks lynch odm Sure, since I would rather just me die than 2 PRs die.
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Post by OM~! on Nov 27, 2017 23:14:25 GMT
Deadline!incognito was lynched. They were the... Hello ODM! You are the Black Bishop (Mafia Godfather) You have the best disguises (such as the one above) that mean you will only be inspected as not guilty. You are allied with the Mafia and win when your faction achieves majority (or 50%) Lovely disguise, no? Anyways, the setup is now 8v1v1 and it is now Night 4. You have until November 29th, 2017 @ 9AM EST to send idles and / or actions.
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Post by vigvignotwasting2000thpost on Nov 29, 2017 13:57:02 GMT
@cseel target
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Post by vigvignotwasting2000thpost on Nov 29, 2017 13:57:25 GMT
Actually I wouldn’t jump to lynch the target. Mafia could easily have framed
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Post by OM~! on Nov 29, 2017 14:09:27 GMT
Whoops accidentally deleted post
Last Night, Nothing Happened.
It is now Day 5 Deadline is December 2nd @ 6PM EST
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Post by OM~! on Nov 29, 2017 14:11:23 GMT
There are 10 players alive, so hammer is 6
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 29, 2017 14:44:01 GMT
y'all sorry i overslept and i'm fucking up my english hw rn i'll make a post in chem
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 29, 2017 14:58:24 GMT
quick question: chances of it being a suicidle, chances of cseel being a god?
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 29, 2017 20:09:03 GMT
Actually I wouldn’t jump to lynch the target. Mafia could easily have framed Or killed target
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 21:27:45 GMT
JK'd Fenrir/Java.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 21:29:18 GMT
Kind of softed it by saying "as scum Fenrir tends to ask more questions about his play, how to improve it, etc. "
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Nov 29, 2017 21:31:49 GMT
Possibilities (most likely to least likely imo): 1. One scum idled, other was jked or hit jk target. 2. Scum both idled. 3. Both scum targetted jk'ed target. 4. One scum was jked, other scum attempted to crossfire. 5. SK used an rb/jk. Previous lynches: Day 1 Lynches 4 Toni : VigVig, Citrus, YS, Flush 3 YS : EC, cseel, jav 2 EC : Xnad, Spiderz 2 VigVig: prodigu, Fenrir 1 Theaph: Zorq 1 Citrus: Spieky 1 Spider: ODM 1 Flush : RAD
Day 2 Lynches 4 Zorq : Spiderz, prodigu, ODM, Citrus 3 EC : VigVig, Theaph, Xnad 1 Spider: EC 1 Flush : Fenrir, YS 1 regi : Flush 1 YS : cseel 1 ODM : Zorq
Day 3 Lynches 8 EC : Spiderz, Citrus, Theaph, Xnad, YS, VigVig, ODM, cseel 1 cseel : Fenrir
Day 4 Lynches 5 ODM : cseel, Theaph, Fenrir, VigVig, YS 1 cseel : ODM
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 21:56:50 GMT
Just noticed that Jav didn't vote D2, D3 or D4. Any reason why? Also pretty sure d1 lynch was the lynch Champ voted for iirc.
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 29, 2017 22:27:48 GMT
nah i lynched day 1
so, day two was intentionally not voting, because as i stated, my major scumread (which was spiderz LOL) was defended by citrus who was saying he was a PR, so i ublynched. which left me without anyone to scumread. day three was unintentional, i didn't realize deadline was then lmao. when OM posted the deadline post i was fucking shook. also, i think i was binge-watching assclass for the late part of day 2 slash early part of day 3
im sorry, i'll try to be more conscious of the game state and make a more active effort to scumread people
as of rn tho i really only have slight scumleans based on like policy and activity. and i really don't feel comfortable lynchingg something that i don't super duper scumread
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 29, 2017 23:27:05 GMT
javacoffee/Citrus/Xnad look like possibilities from the voting, and FFFF/Regifire/Ayia slot has posted ONCE ALL GAME. Spieky is interesting, javelin too. That's probably my lynch pool right now. Without really looking back on it, i'd say Xnad > Spieky > Ayia > Citrus > javacoffee > Javelin. Subject to change after reading up on the slots.
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Post by Yellow$¢$Skarmory on Nov 29, 2017 23:36:18 GMT
I'd like to have more activity out of both Spieky and Xnad (and Ayia slot), but i'd rather Lynch XnadrojX for now. Reading back, i get more scum vibes from this than Spieky.
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 29, 2017 23:47:42 GMT
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Post by Javelinlover on Nov 29, 2017 23:48:00 GMT
actually i should post more, will do after chem class
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