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Post by Rocky Tactician on Jan 19, 2018 0:18:43 GMT
I'm on mobile so I can't go super in depth atm but you should be able to read everything he says and realize just how much the way I say things shapes his reponses and attitudes, instead of what I'm actually sayingTldr: Puppy's a sensitive child Look I'm not going to deny that but how does me being sensitive even prove that I'm scum |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 0:19:09 GMT
This much less game related and more so mafia psychology related. If you want proof of everything I said being relevant to this then go read Day one of Disney mafia (page 5 and onwards featuring some very climactic moments)
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Post by OM~! on Jan 19, 2018 0:41:33 GMT
hi yes so, if you may have noticed, I've been going around talking to some of you. I'm not clear, so I wouldn't fully claim to me, but if you are the following people: FenrirspiderzI'd like to talk to you, so please contact me on discord or through ps! |
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Post by Rocky Tactician on Jan 19, 2018 0:43:54 GMT
OM~! I kinda came to you first  also you seemed to kind of dodge my queries a bit was there a reason for that?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 0:48:00 GMT
Forward me that convo so I cann see if it'll resplit my sides
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Post by OM~! on Jan 19, 2018 0:50:00 GMT
OM~! I kinda came to you first also you seemed to kind of dodge my queries a bit was there a reason for that? You started off with a question, but then went off complaining about the current status here There's nothing I could say that would improve your position on the situation and thoughts about the game other than me saying that the entire thing was bullshit and u were in the right. The issue there though was that even though the entire thing was bullshit valid points were brought up on both sides on each other, just nothing game specific also lol believing tballz's d1 claims |
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Post by OM~! on Jan 19, 2018 0:56:24 GMT
Unlynch spiderz
contacted, gave legitimate reasonings for reactions, he's town imo
Lynch Xnadrojx just waiting for u to be alive boiii
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Post by Rocky Tactician on Jan 19, 2018 1:25:34 GMT
OM~! I kinda came to you first also you seemed to kind of dodge my queries a bit was there a reason for that? You started off with a question, but then went off complaining about the current status here There's nothing I could say that would improve your position on the situation and thoughts about the game other than me saying that the entire thing was bullshit and u were in the right. The issue there though was that even though the entire thing was bullshit valid points were brought up on both sides on each other, just nothing game specific also lol believing tballz's d1 claims I meant before that, before the server reset |
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Post by Rocky Tactician on Jan 19, 2018 1:41:33 GMT
☆Puppy Tactician²: I'm clair anyways ☆Spiderz: Clear? ☆Puppy Tactician²: no ☆Puppy Tactician²: clair ☆Puppy Tactician²: the dragon master ☆Spiderz: Clairvoyant ☆Spiderz: oh ☆Puppy Tactician²: the gym leader ☆Puppy Tactician²: is named clair what even is this anyways after discussing with spiderz they're a general townread due to a legitimate want for relevant info and generally a townie vibe, not really very reactive/tense |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 2:23:06 GMT
Zeep is slightly susp, opened our conversation with "whats your role smh" hey i would like to be sure i dont waste my action /shrug
I don't care what it is |
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Post by tenzhii on Jan 19, 2018 2:32:10 GMT
god at quoting posts. i deleted it in literally 30 seconds and he quoted it
anyway after a nice chat with puppy i would say hes v e r y town
now if youll excuse me im going to read back the ~30 posts made while i was away
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 2:38:16 GMT
god at quoting posts. i deleted it in literally 30 seconds and he quoted it anyway after a nice chat with puppy i would say hes v e r y town now if youll excuse me im going to read back the ~30 posts made while i was away |
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Post by tenzhii on Jan 19, 2018 2:53:20 GMT
ok, fair enough
ill shut until i can say anything of substance
and yes this is filler but theres not much to say about ftf v pup, imo theyre both town with ftf trying to expose weak points in a flawed defense, but even so it doesnt prove pup is scum in any way.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 2:58:39 GMT
ok, fair enough ill shut until i can say anything of substance and yes this is filler but theres not much to say about ftf v pup, imo theyre both town with ftf trying to expose weak points in a flawed defense, but even so it doesnt prove pup is scum in any way.
Anyways, I told you to read the rules because you aren't allowed to delete posts .-. (nor edit, keep that in mind) |
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Post by Fenrir on Jan 19, 2018 3:03:37 GMT
Wow, this took off quickly. And none of y'all will talk to me when I bring up the game. >_> So, let's see what...happened...oh. The usual FtF things. unlynch spiderz, lynch Puppy
Spiderz is already defensive but Puppy's first post is scummy as hell It feels null to be tbh. Even the post where you "explain" why it's scummy feels like a serious reach considering how early in the game that post was. Zeep is slightly susp, opened our conversation with "whats your role smh" Also feels null tbh given that, from my experience, there's a tendency for newer players to OC to think that OC correlates somehow to day 1 claims. Which they can. Sometimes. ... qtball is town, all questions should be directed to them We ain't repeating the Cynthia incident, if you think he's town you better explain why. There are five things I can promise you, based on the setup of Hoenn and Sinnoh Mafia, unless ODM has shaken things up significantly. -Everyone's flavor is either a Gym Leader, Elite Four member, or the Champion. -This is role madness, thus everyone is a power role. -The scumteams are, more likely than not, Traitors, although I can see ODM changing this considering how quickly they found each other anyway in Sinnoh. -If the scumteams are Traitors, they need to find each other based on flavor. Hint hint: If someone's asking to trade flavor with you alone, that someone might be scum looking for their partner! (They could also be someone trying to crack down on fakeclaims, but considering there are 13 Johto league members and 13 players you'd be pretty hard pressed to find some flavor that's not your own to claim.) hi yes so, if you may have noticed, I've been going around talking to some of you. I'm not clear, so I wouldn't fully claim to me, but if you are the following people: Fenrir spiderz I'd like to talk to you, so please contact me on discord or through ps! Please talk to me. I'm lonely. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jan 19, 2018 3:07:00 GMT
Oh, I forgot the fifth nearly guaranteed thing. -There is, more likely than not, a town-aligned 1-shot commuter. 'Cause, y'know. Role madness!  Or maybe that's just a me thing. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 3:08:19 GMT
So, let's see what...happened...oh. The usual FtF things. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 3:28:08 GMT
Starting off with this Graph that i lowered my DPI to draw and everything:
 Okay so it's p hard to read but bear with me. It's a semi decent summary of Puppy's emotional response and how it was p much shaped by what I told him.
Points in detail (more or less):
Anyways if I will say anything, you need information to make decisions, so understand what you're doing with each and every conversation. You need to be proactive. Yes because I'm going to change the subject in my discussions and talk about current affairs >.>
The reason this stands out is more and more apparent when compared against the rest of his posts. It initially stood out for the aforementioned reason.
Well, hello there. Clearly Fenrir's gone along with my Marry Poppins suggestion. Kudos to you for that. Welcome, everyone, to the fabulous region of Johto! I'm one of many gym leaders you'll face while you're here. I need to interrogate some people privately before I compile my reads! Feel free to hmu if you need anything.
-Attempts to buddy established player with contrived association
-Filler statement to follow up
-Empty promise
-Shows very artificial inclination to the game (Nothing of substance provided, no leads to provide substance)
Fits the mold considerably well when lined up against all his posts. Continues with the idea that Puppy doesn't care much for the game, and instead is posting for posterity (and probably his post count).
Deflective, defensive,
unrelated statement
This is more of an observation anyways, but it fits the mold too so it's worth noting.
Sometimes I wish you'd learn to distinguish between horrible plays I make every game and horrible plays I make when I'm scum And telling everyone you're fed up makes you look more scum than anything Asking for more questions is completely unnecessary, we'll give your our questions whether you ask for them or not
I have no clue what you want from me. By guess is that you want me to stop pressuring you because you're naturally a bad player? Is that what you're saying? Like I'm honestly fucking asking because that first line is so incredibly out of touch and daft that it's landed beyond me. Every fucking time y'all manage to astound me. I already noted the inherent scumminess of the specific structures of the post, but your actual motive with this post is so lazy it makes me just stare at my screen in amazement. You're calling me unreasonable because I can't distinguish between your scum playermeta and your usual play style? Fallacy laden expectation. And of course I'd be fucking fed up if I'd have to deal with shit like this. You're putting no cognitive effort in the game but you expect it to go unnamed because you do it all the time?
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN PLAYING THEN
I'm not making allowances for your bitchassqtball is town, all questions should be directed to them
You're using a gut read to justify channeling of info flow, in a game solely dependent on info flow, especially when we're dealing with restricted forms of info.
This is a hilariously bad response
This is so absolutely brain-dead that I feel insulted that I have to explain to you why, since you, for some reason, think it's justified.
What is the point of spamming bad post after bad post? How are your only two choices spamming terrible responses and not posting at all? Is thinking for an extra minute that big of an ask?
How is it even misused? That's a bold accusation.
Care to commit? The separation in tone between my first post and the second post you quoted doesn't point to any sort of conclusion, you're merely using it to point out a change in my posts, changes that are regular in any mafia game (forum or server.) Then you point out that I'm trying to "keep up with your pace" when merely I don't feel the need to give a legitimate response to your "reasoning", which overall does not point to any real conclusion (deflection of main points, "defensiveness"-->so what?
You're saying that the tonal changes are a regular occurrence? Assuming I agree with you, then we'd be saying it's a regular occurrence for people to have bad responses to pressure. Ummm
Also the fact that you think me calling you defensive and accusing you of deflecting does not lead to a conclusion makes me wonder if you know what either of those words mean, since it's a pretty obvious conclusion. The separation in tone between my first post and the second post you quoted doesn't point to any sort of conclusion, you're merely using it to point out a change in my posts, changes that are regular in any mafia game (forum or server.) Then you point out that I'm trying to "keep up with your pace" when merely I don't feel the need to give a legitimate response to your "reasoning", which overall does not point to any real conclusion (deflection of main points, "defensiveness"-->so what?
OKAY OKAY ONE SEC
HAHAHAAHAHAAAAAA
WOOOOOOO
You're the definition of artificial tryhard. You don't even care about the game at this point , you're just trying to look good.
The very obvious conclusion indicated by the tonal change is that you do not have the inclination to do the things that you promised, neither to contribute to the game, nor to put in any effort other than improving the superficial quality of your posts. (Coming from a guy who keeps TNR Bbcode on file, ironic i know)
But worst yet you just keep heaping on excuse after excuse and now you feign indignation? Boy sit the fuck down.
The lack of recognizable conclusions suggests your inablitiy to draw them, a.k.a a you problem.
You aren't a fucking mafia player. You're a child pining for attention by doing things you think make you look good, and IT'S FUNNY
Every fucking response from you just makes you look wrapped around my fucking finger, because not once have you actually managed to fire back. You're just digging your hole deeper and deeper because you've chose your pride over the game. Rather than try and prove me wrong by the traditional rational means (non-traditional means are also accepted) , you immediately jump to pig-headed stubbornness and indignation. Just how sensitive are you?
LIKE LOOK AT THIS
LOOK AT THIS AND TRY TO TELL ME I'M WRONG ABOUT YOU
YOU DON'T HAVE THE FAINTEST IDEA AS TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING BUT YOU'RE STILL STICKING TO IT BECAUSE YOU'D RATHER STICK TO ASSING AROUND MAKING SHIT READS THAN ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG
PUPPY
YOU SUCK AT THIS GAME
NOW MOVE THE FUCK ON
I'm on mobile so I can't go super in depth atm but you should be able to read everything he says and realize just how much the way I say things shapes his reponses and attitudes, instead of what I'm actually sayingTldr: Puppy's a sensitive child Look I'm not going to deny that but how does me being sensitive even prove that I'm scum
I'm literally filling my time by prompting you to publicly embarrass yourself. Can't wait for you to look back on this in a week and I ASSUME
THAT YOU'LL STILL HAVE THE SAME MINDSET
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA
God I ended up somewhere completely different from where I started.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 3:28:51 GMT
lemme fix those bbcode fuckups hold on
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 3:32:04 GMT
This is a hilariously bad response
This is so absolutely brain-dead that I feel insulted that I have to explain to you why, since you, for some reason, think it's justified.
What is the point of spamming bad post after bad post? How are your only two choices spamming terrible responses and not posting at all? Is thinking for an extra minute that big of an ask?
Would you rather me provide horrible responses such as this or no responses at all Nah it's the opposite I honestly just care about the game at this point, I really don't care how I look I'm trying to actually form reads by talking to players privately Instead of dealing with your nonsense thread crap sry about that
LOOK AT THIS AND TRY TO TELL ME I'M WRONG ABOUT YOU
YOU DON'T HAVE THE FAINTEST IDEA AS TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING BUT YOU'RE STILL STICKING TO IT BECAUSE YOU'D RATHER STICK TO ASSING AROUND MAKING SHIT READS THAN ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG
PUPPY
YOU SUCK AT THIS GAME
NOW MOVE THE FUCK ON
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 3:32:23 GMT
okay one more try hold on
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 3:34:08 GMT
Nah it's the opposite I honestly just care about the game at this point, I really don't care how I look I'm trying to actually form reads by talking to players privately Instead of dealing with your nonsense thread crap sry about that
LOOK AT THIS AND TRY TO TELL ME I'M WRONG ABOUT YOU
YOU DON'T HAVE THE FAINTEST IDEA AS TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING BUT YOU'RE STILL STICKING TO IT BECAUSE YOU'D RATHER STICK TO ASSING AROUND MAKING SHIT READS THAN ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG
PUPPY
YOU SUCK AT THIS GAME
NOW MOVE THE FUCK ON |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 3:34:43 GMT
Would you rather me provide horrible responses such as this or no responses at all
This is a hilariously bad response
This is so absolutely brain-dead that I feel insulted that I have to explain to you why, since you, for some reason, think it's justified.
What is the point of spamming bad post after bad post? How are your only two choices spamming terrible responses and not posting at all? Is thinking for an extra minute that big of an ask? |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 3:35:00 GMT
God that took too long to do
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 19, 2018 3:39:22 GMT
Wow, this took off quickly. And none of y'all will talk to me when I bring up the game. >_> So, let's see what...happened...oh. The usual FtF things. unlynch spiderz, lynch Puppy
Spiderz is already defensive but Puppy's first post is scummy as hell It feels null to be tbh. Even the post where you "explain" why it's scummy feels like a serious reach considering how early in the game that post was.
Like
You can say whatever you want about what I did or how I said it and I'll respond to that
BUT
you can't admit that the whole sequence was fucking awful on Puppy's part
MOST NOTABLY
The massive fucking jump between concession and indignation
So naturally his shit is only inherently scummy and founded by a lack of experience/skill, so if I scumread him I would have to scum-read Zeep and Spiderz too
but if there's anything to scum read him for, it's that jump and the additional terrible nature of his response after the first half hour of pressure, so that makes keeping the lynch worth it for me
Like there isn't even room to tunnel him or anything so you can't say that's what I'm guilty of. It's p much him being an absolute jackass and refusing to admit it. |
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