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Post by Dasocks~ on Mar 26, 2018 23:06:45 GMT
I'm only being defensive because I actually don't see your point. Had your claims been understandable, I would be fine. Incidentally, it isn't.
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Post by Rocky Tactician on Mar 26, 2018 23:08:56 GMT
If you don't want us to follow your scumreads and lynch them, what's the point of even having scumreads? Are you saying we shouldn't lynch scum (or at least whoever's scum in your perspective)? Also, Day 1 is not exactly an excuse- a good percentage of the users in this game have presented real, educated reads thus far. Could you take some time to read the 8 pages of activity and generate some sort of read not based off activity alone? Thanks. ask and you shall receive. Ayia(Scumlean.): Has done some admittedly questionable things earlier on, and now that they have heat are trying to now push a counterwagon on me, as others have already set their sights on me. Puppy(New Scumlean): Pushing that I have had ample time to post, when really I have not, and denied that fact, saying I have had ample time. ('Yeah, I know Japanese, that automatically means everyone else should too because they had equal opportunity as me' essentially), and quite honestly, after rereading some of their 'reads', I've found that most were kind of hollow, without meaning. What i mean to say is, for a while they were not pushing anyone, instead pointing out smaller things all the while sticking with an RVS before hopping on a feasible wagon. And for this reason, Unlynch Durza, Lynch Puppy Tactician.
I'd also like to note that each of them came at my throat for things others did before me- making excuses to not be active, or lynching people solely on activity, etc. clc ironic (scumlean): Has done close to nothing so far- and while they may do this often, that doesn't make it a good thing. So for the time being, this is how I view them. Now, that's about it- without incorporating any notable absences, these are my main reads. is there anything about your lynch on me that is not hard OMGUS as I have said, based off what you have said, the two factors getting in the way of your activity have been 'sleep' and 'school' which I have had to deal with all the same as you. Also, you attempted to deny my points for about a half an hour to an hour before actually stopping to go back and get 'reads'- which really are STILL based partly off activity apart from your reads on both me and Ayia (which oddly enough, are both on people who have expressed suspicion towards you as of late.) |
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Post by Dasocks~ on Mar 26, 2018 23:09:16 GMT
If anything, the fact you aren't lynching me irks me even more. Going this far and not following through just further proves my scumlean on you even more, imo
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Post by Wob on Mar 26, 2018 23:09:40 GMT
- hingo: Failed Scum counter wagon attempt town lean - miss meatball: Goon read - Agent Orange: null - og villain: - Tottenham: slight hairy lean - Emily: Null - clc ironic: Town Lena - spiderz: The god - a man of the woods: the goon - ayia: Mafia PR - mr ego: slight scum lean - Fenrir: Scum lean - the hallow: null - Champ1604: slight town lean - ODM: null - Toni 2 Many Chromosomi: Slight Town lean - b3362: null - Twinkle Twink: Town read - daisocks: Goon - floooood: Neutral why have you labelled ayia specifically as mafia pr and not just as scum? i find it weird that you've already decided on not only scum, but also which faction they are and whether or not they're a PR when it's only d1. if you could elaborate on that it'd be great. |
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Post by Wob on Mar 26, 2018 23:11:39 GMT
also i dont mind getting odm
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 26, 2018 23:11:58 GMT
Unvote: ODM
Vote: DeathByWobbuffet
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Post by Dasocks~ on Mar 26, 2018 23:12:36 GMT
ask and you shall receive. Ayia(Scumlean.): Has done some admittedly questionable things earlier on, and now that they have heat are trying to now push a counterwagon on me, as others have already set their sights on me. Puppy(New Scumlean): Pushing that I have had ample time to post, when really I have not, and denied that fact, saying I have had ample time. ('Yeah, I know Japanese, that automatically means everyone else should too because they had equal opportunity as me' essentially), and quite honestly, after rereading some of their 'reads', I've found that most were kind of hollow, without meaning. What i mean to say is, for a while they were not pushing anyone, instead pointing out smaller things all the while sticking with an RVS before hopping on a feasible wagon. And for this reason, Unlynch Durza, Lynch Puppy Tactician.
I'd also like to note that each of them came at my throat for things others did before me- making excuses to not be active, or lynching people solely on activity, etc. clc ironic (scumlean): Has done close to nothing so far- and while they may do this often, that doesn't make it a good thing. So for the time being, this is how I view them. Now, that's about it- without incorporating any notable absences, these are my main reads. is there anything about your lynch on me that is not hard OMGUSas I have said, based off what you have said, the two factors getting in the way of your activity have been 'sleep' and 'school' which I have had to deal with all the same as you. Also, you attempted to deny my points for about a half an hour to an hour before actually stopping to go back and get 'reads'- which really are STILL based partly off activity apart from your reads on both me and Ayia (which oddly enough, are both on people who have expressed suspicion towards you as of late.) So you outright deny my point? Mhm. And, has it also occurred to you that both of you are one of the main people presenting srs rn? Or that I could have been, I dunno, fishing for scummy reactions to my paragraphs? Or more dialogue in general for ease of access to more reads? |
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Post by Rocky Tactician on Mar 26, 2018 23:13:20 GMT
If anything, the fact you aren't lynching me irks me even more. Going this far and not following through just further proves my scumlean on you even more, imo okay, this has gone too far- I would've liked to receive a well thought-out response to my questions but clearly I'm not going to get that, just a request to be lynched, and frankly, how does me not lynching you make me scum? wouldn't scum want to place a lynch on someone quickly so they can start a wagon and get attention off themselves? |
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Post by Wob on Mar 26, 2018 23:15:24 GMT
forum is not much different than chatroom this is enough to make me believe their "noob meta". forum is VERY different from live chat mafia. |
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Post by Dasocks~ on Mar 26, 2018 23:15:26 GMT
And you continue to forget I had something to attend to. As in, outside of this Forum game.
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Post by Dasocks~ on Mar 26, 2018 23:18:12 GMT
Start a wagon in a 20p game, with day+ deadlines? With a game such as this one, I would most likely expect scum to hop on pre-made wagons, while keeping a low-profile, no? Especially as early as day 1.
And I'm only reciprocating my answers- You give well-thought out questions, maybe I'll start giving well-thought out answers.
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Post by Rocky Tactician on Mar 26, 2018 23:19:22 GMT
is there anything about your lynch on me that is not hard OMGUSas I have said, based off what you have said, the two factors getting in the way of your activity have been 'sleep' and 'school' which I have had to deal with all the same as you. Also, you attempted to deny my points for about a half an hour to an hour before actually stopping to go back and get 'reads'- which really are STILL based partly off activity apart from your reads on both me and Ayia (which oddly enough, are both on people who have expressed suspicion towards you as of late.) So you outright deny my point? Mhm. And, has it also occurred to you that both of you are one of the main people presenting srs rn? Or that I could have been, I dunno, fishing for scummy reactions to my paragraphs? Or more dialogue in general for ease of access to more reads? I denied your point for valid reason, which I gave- you're just refusing to respond to it, instead affirming that it makes no sense. Also, I don't believe presenting reads makes one "scum"- and Ayia hasn't contributed an incredibly high amount of reads thus far. "Fishing for scummy reactions"- this is literally 100% scum right here folks you don't come back from a period of inactivity to post a paragraph with activity-based reads only to wait around for 'scummy reactions' to said paragraph instead of reading back into the game to the MANY scummy reactions to other users' posts that could easily be used to formulate a valid read. There's plenty of dialogue there for 'ease of read formulation' that you could use, but instead you're attempting to respond to my points without any actual prior knowledge. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 26, 2018 23:20:12 GMT
DurzaOffTopicokay spiderz is hypertown who is lynching them c7 is confusing to me, why does he want an excuse to spiderman spiderz so bad??? like idk if im reading incorrectly but his reason literally makes no sense to me, @twinkle Twink can you please vote to lynch? That was a fast read. did you mean "excuse to lynch" and if so what doesn't make sense about it to you? I'm following the case against Spiderz pretty easily, it's the townreads on him that make little sense. OM RoomAlthough I don't agree with his push on me, it feels town-motivated/pure in a tonal sense. I was going to say I'd like seeing his opinions on some other places, and then while I was typing this we got a post doing exactly that. ArsenalI want your thoughts on my comments with regards to lynching lurkers. How do we benefit from doing so Day 1 (when they are likely to be subbed) aside from the generic argument of "lurkers are bad for town"? If you intend to vote lurkers only, at what point do you intend to actually begin scumhunting? Additoonally, what do you dislike about hingo's vote on Thunder? Arsenal is currently a scumlean for me due to this, as they're implying that they intend to follow a pattern of lynching lurkers throughout the game. The fact that they themselves only have four posts so far (I'm not counting their in) makes it worse.
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 26, 2018 23:23:04 GMT
Zzz, I thought I'd typed up my thoughts on OM's most recent post. It's imo more of the same in the sense of tone, which is a good thing along with the open-mindedness with regards to Spiderz and Ayia. His response to Xnad's vote on him also reads as town who genuinely doesn't see the problem with where they're pushing.
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Post by Rocky Tactician on Mar 26, 2018 23:24:03 GMT
Start a wagon in a 20p game, with day+ deadlines? With a game such as this one, I would most likely expect scum to hop on pre-made wagons, while keeping a low-profile, no? Especially as early as day 1. And I'm only reciprocating my answers- You give well-thought out questions, maybe I'll start giving well-thought out answers. You are CONTRADICTING YOUR OWN POINT HERE. Your reasoning on me for being scum is my 'up-front, "invalid" reads' which are exactly the opposite of what you just said- I don't think you deny that I've been rather up-front with my reads, no? Also, you're evading my questions by stating that they're "not well thought-out" which is clearly either an effort to be lazy or you think that answering my questions makes you scummier- which, unless you are scum, it does not. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 26, 2018 23:24:33 GMT
spiderz, say we lynch Ayia today and they flipped town. What happens to your reads then?
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Post by Dasocks~ on Mar 26, 2018 23:33:24 GMT
So you outright deny my point? Mhm. And, has it also occurred to you that both of you are one of the main people presenting srs rn? Or that I could have been, I dunno, fishing for scummy reactions to my paragraphs? Or more dialogue in general for ease of access to more reads? I denied your point for valid reason, which I gave- you're just refusing to respond to it, instead affirming that it makes no sense. Also, I don't believe presenting reads makes one "scum"- and Ayia hasn't contributed an incredibly high amount of reads thus far. "Fishing for scummy reactions"- this is literally 100% scum right here folks you don't come back from a period of inactivity to post a paragraph with activity-based reads only to wait around for 'scummy reactions' to said paragraph instead of reading back into the game to the MANY scummy reactions to other users' posts that could easily be used to formulate a valid read. There's plenty of dialogue there for 'ease of read formulation' that you could use, but instead you're attempting to respond to my points without any actual prior knowledge. Where is this valid reason you speak of? The fact that I didn't bother to read the logs (which i have), only to go and reread them leading to a scumread on you? You realise reads can change, right? I never said reads made you "scum". If that were my real thought, would I not be throwing lynches around more people? Instead, I meant it as you were both main people 'heavily' against people regardless (ayia to spiderz, you to almost anybody who uttered anything at all), meaning you already had a solid idea of who to lynch. Looking back, there was not much concrete things other than the whole ayia v spiderz fiasco and shitposting issues, along with other, 'softer' reads from other users that I have taken into account. So, instead of insisting that want you're saying is infallible and actually accept the fact that your claims are flawed, I'll leave it be. also, imo, lynching someone because they deny the fact that they could have posted a lot more is not 'valid' by any means. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 26, 2018 23:35:14 GMT
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Post by Wob on Mar 26, 2018 23:37:44 GMT
i tr dasocks. he's responded to puppy's pressure in a calm and reasonable way and wanting to get rid of lurkers d1 is far from scummy imo. i dislike how puppy has tried to dismiss dasocks' read on him as an omgus (it wasnt) and focused too much timezones / whether dasocks couldve posted before which is fairly irrelevant imo. scumlean him.
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Post by Wob on Mar 26, 2018 23:38:21 GMT
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Post by Dasocks~ on Mar 26, 2018 23:40:44 GMT
Start a wagon in a 20p game, with day+ deadlines? With a game such as this one, I would most likely expect scum to hop on pre-made wagons, while keeping a low-profile, no? Especially as early as day 1. And I'm only reciprocating my answers- You give well-thought out questions, maybe I'll start giving well-thought out answers. You are CONTRADICTING YOUR OWN POINT HERE. Your reasoning on me for being scum is my 'up-front, "invalid" reads' which are exactly the opposite of what you just said- I don't think you deny that I've been rather up-front with my reads, no? Also, you're evading my questions by stating that they're "not well thought-out" which is clearly either an effort to be lazy or you think that answering my questions makes you scummier- which, unless you are scum, it does not. No, my reasoning is not because of your 'up-front reads', in fact quite contrarily. My thing is you said all these smaller things, without pushing any of them at first. And I have no idea where you got the impression I was evading your questions. If you could point out an example, I'd happily accept being wrong, so be my guest. Maybe stop evading my answers? You only keep repeating the same thing over and over. 'We both had to deal with the same circumstances, you had no excuse to not post as often', 'Your reads are invalid, but mine aren't by any measure', for example. That's basically the gist of most of your responses. |
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Post by Rocky Tactician on Mar 26, 2018 23:42:17 GMT
I denied your point for valid reason, which I gave- you're just refusing to respond to it, instead affirming that it makes no sense. Also, I don't believe presenting reads makes one "scum"- and Ayia hasn't contributed an incredibly high amount of reads thus far. "Fishing for scummy reactions"- this is literally 100% scum right here folks you don't come back from a period of inactivity to post a paragraph with activity-based reads only to wait around for 'scummy reactions' to said paragraph instead of reading back into the game to the MANY scummy reactions to other users' posts that could easily be used to formulate a valid read. There's plenty of dialogue there for 'ease of read formulation' that you could use, but instead you're attempting to respond to my points without any actual prior knowledge. Where is this valid reason you speak of? The fact that I didn't bother to read the logs (which i have), only to go and reread them leading to a scumread on you? You realise reads can change, right? I never said reads made you "scum". If that were my real thought, would I not be throwing lynches around more people? Instead, I meant it as you were both main people 'heavily' against people regardless (ayia to spiderz, you to almost anybody who uttered anything at all), meaning you already had a solid idea of who to lynch. Looking back, there was not much concrete things other than the whole ayia v spiderz fiasco and shitposting issues, along with other, 'softer' reads from other users that I have taken into account. So, instead of insisting that want you're saying is infallible and actually accept the fact that your claims are flawed, I'll leave it be. also, imo, lynching someone because they deny the fact that they could have posted a lot more is not 'valid' by any means. I have answered this question multiple times already, and I'm not going to answer it again. Also, your rereading of the reads was clearly influenced by the fact that you were deliberately trying to find scummy things that I had done in the past- with 2/3 of your reads being on people who have attacked you in the past and one more on clc ironic- a read based entirely off of activity. If you had actually read more into the text you would have formulated more reads- consider Fenrir's reads, Champ's reads, etc. You did not react to either of those- and I'd like to point out that you have hardly provided any townreads so far aside from the one on me, which you were very quick to drop after I expressed suspicion on your case. Ironically enough, you happened to call me scummy after 're-reading' what I had done before, which you initially townread- the only difference being that I had questioned you on your reads. Your final 'paragraph' here is literally just a personal attack and a claim that I believe what I'm saying is infallible. And once again, there is an incredible amount of concrete information in the game thus far- multiple users have presented full-game lists of reads that you could easily use to read that person or any of the people they presented reads on. |
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Post by Rocky Tactician on Mar 26, 2018 23:44:14 GMT
i tr dasocks. he's responded to puppy's pressure in a calm and reasonable way and wanting to get rid of lurkers d1 is far from scummy imo. i dislike how puppy has tried to dismiss dasocks' read on him as an omgus (it wasnt) and focused too much timezones / whether dasocks couldve posted before which is fairly irrelevant imo. scumlean him. This was just a small part of my suspicion that Dasocks deemed to be a weaker point that I made which he decided to redirect the conversation toward, not me. Why are you suddenly so defensive? Do you have any proof that the read on me wasn't OMGUS? |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 26, 2018 23:46:54 GMT
Thunder~BALLZ[/u] lolthreeposts I've asked everything I've wanted to here, I guess. If you want to be the one to explain to me why Spiderz is town I'd not be opposed. clcironicHere's a lynch I could get behind. There's overall a lot of fake effort and hypocrisy without much actual commitment to any of the few ideas that have actually been put forth. ayia if you are going to troll ask to be subbed out this is actual serious mafia not that banana shit What does this add to the game? Feels like you're just trying to appear pro-town by telling people to be "serious." the fact mr. troll has talked, hasnt requested for sub, and hasnt unlynched = scum gg. Talk to me somw about at which point your random vote on Ayia stopped becoming random, and about how these things equate to scum. i only actually start playing with 10 pages of stuff before then i increase post count It's almost actually worse that you didn't stick to this given the timing of the whole thing, which makes it look like you decided that you better start posting more game-related stuff when people began to float the idea that they would lynch you if you didn't Also of note that you started out calling Ayia out for not being "serious" and went on to maintain a streak of active lurking yourself. lol calling other people on "filler" or "inactivity" when this post is literally a load of agreement with other people, commentary of the game, or calling others out If I could easily make that "thinking" emoticon image smaller, it would be here. That sounds like me, but replace 10 pages in with halfway though day 1. ok i reread all of ayia's 19 posts ever and it seems as if they naturally do not contribute/talk in games, town or scum for now though you can say im parking a vote as for others, spiderz town for now for the contribution, and flooood town :3 i read back on fenrir and for now slight town lean + bad lynch anyways since he actually contributes aside from champ stating everyone should talk five times a day (which i think is nai) and their iso list they haven't really said anything so ill wait to gather a read on them after they finish a couple isos (correction: after they finish actual isos not ones on 1 posters on spiderz/me) c7 is town for his overall townie tone and contribution i dislike how i talked about toni's post and he didnt care to respond and instead somewhat fillered but we will see about that as for everyone else i didnt read them because they either havent talked or have 0 content whatsoever anyways, i wont be here in 20 minutes all the way to tommorow so thats about 30 hours if you want me either tag me and be patient or ask me rn ill be on waiting rn OM and Xnad have "0 content whatsoever"? I want to hear about your Scorrching townread some, but your other townreads are on C7 (frankly an easy townread to give) and Spiderz (seemingly a consensus townread anyway). The others you offset with things like "but he's a bad lynch anyway" and "we'll see about that" and it ultimately looks like you included the list just to appear proactive. Parking your vote this early into day 1 is also pinging my scumdar heavily, especially considering that not too long ago you were like "I'm not sure about Ayia" and only were willing to vote them to save Spiderz. And almost immidiately after your attention on Ayia vanishes in favor of Toni, who you're only not voting now because you don't want to give Spiderz plurality (despite the fact that it's not even halfway through Day 1). What do people think of a clc/Ayia scumteam, actually? I can easily see scum!clc deciding to RVS vote a partner so he can keep it there if a wagon develops and then claim he's town because he was "on that scum lynch from the beginning."
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 26, 2018 23:47:18 GMT
Remind me to figure out what's wrong with my spacing in these posts.
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