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Post by spiderz on Mar 27, 2018 14:43:59 GMT
Spiderz move on ayia is obvious town I mean come on he is OBVIOUSLY town and he did NOTHING scummy and there’s totally proof I mean just look at him now can we lynch (insert random players name) because (insert an over complicated bs reasoning that could be super simple but I have to make him loook scummy so I can look more town since I am shit at making my own reads so I have to bandwagon other reads )
oh and Spiderz (insert question that I have stated millions if times but Ayia is obvious townsiw e dot bother to look at all of spiderz post)
This literally what I see, if y’all think Ayia is town ok you know I’ll just stop making reads Xnad hasn’t defended himself and has just said tunnel vision Dasocks and Ptac are in there own world ill just stop making reads and do what most of you do know since i am shit at this game and my reads make no sense
Unlynch Ayia lynch Ptac
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Post by Bomb Moss on Mar 27, 2018 14:44:58 GMT
To clarify, it's mostly the phrasing which just feels more of a “lemme just passive-aggressive say this thing and make you reaaaaallll uncomfortable” as opposed to being phrased more like... Say “Why did you do this and do that instead?” which is the tone you'd adopt if you want to pressure them, or “Dude you just did this and now you're real scummy, anything to say” when you scum read them and are getting ready to push them. What he did was just like, the push without the responsibility. Someone's gonna do some semantics shit and fuck me over, so when I say push I meant throwing shade or whatever you call the noncommittal shit he was doing.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Mar 27, 2018 14:50:04 GMT
Spiderz move on ayia is obvious town I mean come on he is OBVIOUSLY town and he did NOTHING scummy and there’s totally proof I mean just look at him now can we lynch (insert random players name) because (insert an over complicated bs reasoning that could be super simple but I have to make him loook scummy so I can look more town since I am shit at making my own reads so I have to bandwagon other reads ) oh and Spiderz (insert question that I have stated millions if times but Ayia is obvious townsiw e dot bother to look at all of spiderz post) This literally what I see, if y’all think Ayia is town ok you know I’ll just stop making reads Xnad hasn’t defended himself and has just said tunnel vision Dasocks and Ptac are in there own world ill just stop making reads and do what most of you do know since i am shit at this game and my reads make no sense Unlynch Ayia lynch Ptac It's more like you're you know, kinda refusing to admit that you're in tunnel vision and making a big deal out of us telling you that? Your whole game is revolving around Ayia and he's not even someone important rn. What we're telling you to do, is not to stop reading because your reads make Jo sense. Were also not telling you that Ayia is town and you should be lynching some other dude for BS reasoning. What we ARE telling you to do, is to shut the fuck up about Ayia being scum for a single moment over some stupid argument you had with them in RVS and start actually looking outside of Ayia interactions. TL;DR Recognize tunnel vision when you're in it and pull the fuck out before you go from being a uniTR to being lynched day 2 for trying to be a pseudo-gladiator.
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Post by OM~! on Mar 27, 2018 14:51:07 GMT
To clarify, it's mostly the phrasing which just feels more of a “lemme just passive-aggressive say this thing and make you reaaaaallll uncomfortable” as opposed to being phrased more like... Say “Why did you do this and do that instead?” which is the tone you'd adopt if you want to pressure them, or “Dude you just did this and now you're real scummy, anything to say” when you scum read them and are getting ready to push them. What he did was just like, the push without the responsibility. Someone's gonna do some semantics shit and fuck me over, so when I say push I meant throwing shade or whatever you call the noncommittal shit he was doing. I see what you're saying with the quote, analyzing it, it seems to be pushing for pushing's sake
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Post by spiderz on Mar 27, 2018 14:51:43 GMT
First tell me why the fuck Ayia is town
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Post by Bomb Moss on Mar 27, 2018 14:51:50 GMT
Also you just said “If Ayia is scum then Xnad is scum”, followed by “People should stop telling me Ayia is town (not said, but implied)” followed by “Xnad should defend himself”.
And I'm like man you can't just fuck me over like that just cuz I tried to move game along when you were stagnating it.
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Post by OM~! on Mar 27, 2018 14:52:25 GMT
*and analyzing it
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Post by Bomb Moss on Mar 27, 2018 14:52:43 GMT
First tell me why the fuck Ayia is town Maybe read my fucking post? We ain't fucking trying to tell you Ayia is town we're trying to tell you that you're fucking terrible at anything other than tunneling rn.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Mar 27, 2018 14:54:57 GMT
Ayia can be whatever the fuck he wants to be but you need to just stop insisting on building the whole damn game around them, like I'm pretty rn sure Meatball is scum rn but I'm not trying to build my whole game solve around them because sometimes shit happens and you gotta read people for what they are AND ACTUALLY TALK TO SOMEONE WITH CONTENT OTHER THAN "X IS SCUM/TOWN" because once you do you start seeing shit in shades of Ayia instead of words.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Mar 27, 2018 14:56:24 GMT
Spiderz move on ayia is obvious town I mean come on he is OBVIOUSLY town and he did NOTHING scummy and there’s totally proof I mean just look at him This literally what I see, if y’all think Ayia is town ok you know I’ll just stop making reads I don't think anyone has specifically stated that they have a strong town read on ayia. What I was trying to say was that all of your reads were based off of ayia = scum.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Mar 27, 2018 14:57:49 GMT
Your whole problem rn is that you are tunneling on Ayia, and everything that isn't lynching Ayia your tunnel vision is twisting to make it seem like we're saying Ayia is town.
Well read this, we're not saying he is ObvTown, were trying to tell you Ayia isn't what this game is about.
So please for God's sake stop making people waste post space to address this, we'll all deal with our reads in our own time just because we're not agreeing with you wholeheartedly doesn't meant we're directly opposing you.
I've spent way too long awake, I need sleep, good night everyone.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Mar 27, 2018 14:59:14 GMT
Also you just said “If Ayia is scum then Xnad is scum”, followed by “People should stop telling me Ayia is town (not said, but implied)” followed by “Xnad should defend himself”. And I'm like man you can't just fuck me over like that just cuz I tried to move game along when you were stagnating it. Oh and someone defend my while I sleep ty
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Post by spiderz on Mar 27, 2018 15:00:23 GMT
You are not making any sense to me Xnad I’ve already determined scum if you scum hunt early on the better yet you guys are still in rvs ? We should be pressuring the ones that are a acting the most scummy not the yet town still go for ones that have atleast contributed and are not complete shit like wob, Om, and fenrir. It makes no sense your playstyle doesn’t make sense, I see your point about me wanting to focus on others and stop focusing on Ayia but I’ve already determined scum we should go for the Pr first which is obviously Ayia and not the goon Ptac
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Post by Arsenal on Mar 27, 2018 15:01:18 GMT
Spiderz if you still think Ayia is scum why did you even unlynch them? Also your rant really doesn't make you seem townie at all
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Post by spiderz on Mar 27, 2018 15:09:52 GMT
I really don’t care if I sound townie or not Cause that is a scum mind set, a town mindset is trying to find scumwhich 8 have already done also I’ve unlynched since town seems to be more focused on lynching other people
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Post by spiderz on Mar 27, 2018 15:17:45 GMT
Unlynch puppy lynch Dasocks
Now that I think about it this makes more sense as scum I think scums main goal here is making Ayia town + trying not to make the scum team obvious, I think Vig vig just encouraged people to lynch puppy and shifting off Ayia but isn’t gonna actually lynch him, Xnad is lynching ptac so she has plur and and Ayia is gonna stay on Dasocks so ayia seems more townie, and they are planning to lynch Dasocks the goon tommorow over all making Ayia super townie
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Post by spiderz on Mar 27, 2018 15:18:32 GMT
I really don’t care if I sound townie or not Cause that is a scum mind set, a town mindset is trying to find scumwhich 8 have already done also I’ve unlynched since town seems to be more focused on lynching other people I mean I
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 15:51:53 GMT
I really don’t care if I sound townie or not Cause that is a scum mind set, a town mindset is trying to find scumwhich 8 have already done also I’ve unlynched since town seems to be more focused on lynching other people I mean I its not that we are more focused on other people (well we are and i most def am) but its that you are so balls deep in ayia that nobody wants to go down that route anymore. Tunneling doesn't help anyone, even if you are 100% sure ayia is scum, by tunneling you just hurt your case. Very few people believe ayia is town, but your case makes ayia looks townier and townier by the minute, should you both be town, what does it accomplish that you both die (im assuming town lynches you tomorrow for the way you are tunneling not saying they will or wont but im using this to build my point), not much we just lost 2 towns, and thats just by lynches thats not even factoring mafia and ww night kills the night before. and if ayia is mafia well good i guess you got a scum and a early scum kill is nice, but then what? throughout this day i feel like you just been saying ayia + (random person here) because besides ayia your reads have been shifting too much and its unnatural to say the least. If someone already pointed this out im sorry i was working on my thread but, sometimes yes its nice to be aggressive and have a hard on for a player but other times you gotta sit back and add not too much pressure on someone otherwise you risk doing what you are doing rn, looking scummy and hurting your case, and then nobody takes you seriously come time for lylo
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 15:56:42 GMT
before what i say gets misinterpreted spiderz im not saying you cant sr ayia im saying you shouldnt be balls deep in someone day 1 and then question why is no one getting this scum with me when there's a) better lynches and b) people who are lurker and should have that pressure on them more rn imo to get them to talk, i respect that you have a sr i dont respect how youve gone about showing that scumread and what youve done in order to get that scumread lynched
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 16:10:08 GMT
>why do you specifically town lean hingo but scum lean clc. im not saying you have to scumread or townread both, but as i pointed out earlier, both basically did the same thing just clc had the extra comment on ayia. i just find it strange that you town lean hingo, unless ive missed something between falling asleep and waking up, in which case disregard what ive said eariler @toxicmahshroom Hingo's response to being lynched: " Also p sure cr and wob just trying to get more out of me haha" He's surprisingly calm under pressure and also shows that he is aware that he has had low contribution at that point in time. CLC was lowkey just trying to policy ayia. It does not sit well with me that he has parked his vote and at that point he pretty much had only filler posted. Currently town-lean on clc now though, his reads are well thought out. >Also flooood i find it strange that you town lean vig vig since the only thing i can find him doing is his comment on the ayia spider situation and his memeful im beter than you person thingy. I feel the town lean is out of no where … I want you floood to go into more depth on why you town lean vagvag. Twinkle Twink Read between the lines.>ok i reread all of ayia's 19 posts ever and it seems as if they naturally do not contribute/talk in games, town or scum | for now though you can say im parking a vote clc ironic Vote-parking D-1 is for goons. I'd rather you lynch a scumread than park a vote on a potato. >Spiderz and Toni are probably Town (spider being stronger read than Toni) … No other player has made a significant enough impact on me to allow me to establish a read. VigilanteVigoroth I don't understand this Toni town read. Please elaborate. >can everyone literally stop sucking Spiderz dick, saying he's obvious town is all just wifom sure he can be town you don't need to point it out assuming people here have brains. qtball How is stating a town read wifom? At the time that you posted this Spiderz had 3 lynches and Fen was actively questioning this read. What you're essentially doing here is agreeing with the read that Spiderz is town, while saying that everyone else who voiced the same opinion is dumb. ***ed post. >what benefit is there to outright saying ,"Hey guys, this is not only a soft but it's a very obvious one! Fenrir So other Town doesn't do it and so he won't do it in the future. >First off, I don't give a hoot how many people are on Spiderz I didn't even think anyone was on him when I got on, plus if you read my reasoning it was legit- it seems like you are the one looking for a strange excuse to get on me miss meatball 1. Openly admits to not paying attention to lynches/the game 2. Soft omguses me for lynching them + they well over 10 posts attacking Daisocks for stating that he had previously been inactive, while ignoring the fact that there are players who have said less. No scum would be tunneling in such a manner. Unlynch Puppy TacticianThey are bad town. It's slightly troubling to see OM~! post a whole readlist while null reading 14 players (page 10). If you're going to post a readlist, please at give useful reads. If anyone wants to say Daisocks did the same, he did not. He was pressured into giving his by Puppy. >Vigvig obviously just buddying me so I can tr him, Vig vig is scum also Dasocks you poor goon, you have to be sacrificed so your scum buddy Ayia can look Townie also you don’t need even tell me your last scum buddy right woods? spiderz I agree with Xnadrojx; you are getting tunnel vision. Almost all of your reads are based off of Ayia being scum. I think you should try to consider other possibilities. .l ThunderBALLZ THE MOTHERFUCKER 1. Low energy/low activity 2. See above comment 3. Felt the need to state "RVS" when they did their first lynch Sorry if im slow but i cant read can you legit explain it, i dont see why you tr'd vig vig at the time even now it still makes little sense to me but back then it really didnt make sense to me also since you and xnad sure the same mentality that spiderz is going balls deep in ayia what do you think of xnad so far in this day 1? i dont think you've commented on xnad specififcally but if you have my b. bc i want them to have more discussion and this is an important topic ive brought up that nobody seemed to answer >_> because it got shafted with the spiderz tunnel VigilanteVigoroth and tonithetourguide Champ1604 (anyone is free to answer this if they want to but these are the three i want to answer the most cuz i think they need to do far more talking) i want to know what would you guys personally do with the lurkers problem we currently have. d1 ends tomorrow and we have ~9 players (maybe more maybe less i havent counted) players who probably dont know whats going on and are talking much or doing much for town.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 16:24:43 GMT
Welp, RIP this I guess. Unvote: DeathbywobbuffetWas hoping to get some kind of reaction to the naked vote-for some reason my mind flashed back to PSAnon and I remembered some dichotomy in the way you reacted to pressure as Roland v. Jacuzzi. ODM can actually wait for the time being; having just gone through clc's ISO I've concluded that some pressure is definitely needed here and I'm also convinced be a good lynch for today. Vote: clc ironiclast post before i go to sleep in class/have to get off this computer and go to my next class never quite got what the point of this was on fenrir's part felt like pointless filler imo. Maybe im in the dark because i wasn't in that anon game (or any anon game for that matter aj should start inviting me to those again) but im lost on why you expected him to react a certain way with no pressure on him at all and then shift to someone who i feel is a pretty easy wagon to hop on imo (most players have somewht of a scumred on clc for fillering the first half of d1 and getting active when the wagon on him started). IMO if you really wanted a reaction on him you would have stayed on and asked him questions pertaining to the game to see what he says.
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Post by qtball on Mar 27, 2018 16:25:48 GMT
Im lowkey anticipating someone to try and defuse these wagons onto lurker thoughts
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 16:32:13 GMT
i know i said that was gonna be my last post but i found something interesting, adding on to what i said about fenrir, his interactions with dubs after that kinda disappeared but i find it strange that dubs said he town reads you imo, so i have two questions 1) Wob why do you town read fenrir and 2) Fenrir what was the point of the that little exchange you had with dbw earlier that you didnt go anywhere and then didnt push further onto getting a reaction even though you actions contridict your words imo. if it has something to do with that anon game shed some light on it for those of us who weren't in it. i havent played mafia in awhile but iirc one of the golden rules was d1 is the best time for scum partners to slip up on each other beacause they dont yet have a plan to really manipulate the town yet. i could see DubFen scum team but im not gonna jump the gun just yet i want them to answer the questions i gave them first before i go any further. but its a point i think i a better discussion point than this spiderz ayia puppy das jumbo mess going on rn
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 16:38:07 GMT
Im lowkey anticipating someone to try and defuse these wagons onto lurker thoughts oh right you exist in this game too, ok then *cough* INACTIVEASSTHUNDERBALLZ *cough* (oof my cough is so bad i should get some medication for it) 1) why was that so important that you had to point it out in a short one liner post and 2) whats wrong with putting pressure on lurkers. IMO both of these wagons wont go anywhere imo and i think starting at another angle will be better for us. Also are you scared that perhaps attention will shift to you because you are being kinda a heavy lurker yourself rn. What do you plan on doing should that attention shift to you? what do you think of puppy/da ayia/spiderz, or better yet what do you think about what i pointed out in Dubfen.
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Mar 27, 2018 17:13:46 GMT
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