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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 7:26:05 GMT
yeesh, having school and having to juggle this forum game is a doozy. AaanywayJust as an aside, I understand that I'm not talking much, but as I have said in this very post, I have school and as such can't post much in the day, unfortunately. Now that that's out of the way-
Unlynch Spiderz
Now, of course, I know what some of you may be thinking- "They're only doing this to cover the fact that they're pushing a counterwagon to save ayia, their partner". Though, that isn't the case. Frankly (and without the use of quotes because i hate them), Spiderz has honestly taken the whole scumread thing on them fairly well, articulating why their srs are what they are, etc. Personally, to me, he writes off as townie to me. Meanwhile, ayia and clc are shitposting, but I view that with a bit more leniency because it's early d1, but it's unhelpful nonetheless. I would also like to say that Durza has said not a thing, unless i missed that through my skimming of the logs.
I personally townread wob and puppy, since they have done nothing to write off as 'scummy' in my eyes, rather the opposite.
My scumreads, on the other hand, are Durza (silent), Arsenal (iirc has said nothing except a lynch, correct me if I'm wrong), Toni + Champ (to me, seems like they're putting these long posts just to feign activity and scumhunting [but dasocks, is this not hypocrisy?! Answer: It may very well be, but the sole reason I'm typing all this is to get my thoughts out so nobody thinks i died or something]), and of course the aforementioned shitposters as well as anybody who has seldom said anything, like b33 for example
The rest of the pl are neutral reads, neither scummy nor townie.
With that, though, I will have to Lynch Durza OffTopic on the basis that, as i mentioned before, have said nothing this whole game. For now, I'll park this lynch in hopes it'll spark a reaction in them, and will stay with it until I get more steadfast reads.
Much of this post feels off to me. (1) There's your comment about "I know what some of you may be thinking" which I'm pretty sure I recall seeing someone mention while I was doing the first half of my ISO work, and if I recall Spiderz himself was the only one who was proposing the whole counterwagon bit. I can easily see this as fitting into an Ayia/clc scumteam considering that you felt the need to comment, "Oh, they're shitposting but it's fine because it's day 1." They both have a number of posts that aren't exclusively shitposts and it feels like you're trying to minimize the allegations against them with this. Your reasons for townreading DBW and Puppy are because they "haven't done anything scummy", which in theory applies to everyone else you have as a neutral read on. You do comment with "rather the opposite", so could you quote some posts of theirs you find to be coming from town? Lastly, could you go into some more detail with how Toni/Champ's posts feel like they're just trying to feign activity? The accusation in itself is somewhat vague and your other scumreads are exclusively activity based (I'll reiterate, by the way, that it makes zero sense to lynch a lurker Day 1). @champ, i can have one filler comment. it's not that big of a deal. I followed it up with non-filler soon after. Something about the fact that your defense to being called out for filler was "But I followed it up with non-filler!" feels off. I'm not sure how to phrase it, but the thought is there. The problem with an Ayia/Daisocks scumteam though is that it means that Ayia saw the above post I quoted from Daisocks and decided to bus; something I don't think Ayia would do in their situation unless there was some pressure on Daisocks already. (More specifically I can't see scum!Ayia somewhat specifically doing that if it wasn't some kind of last-ditch wifom distancing effort.) Puppy's questioning towards Daisocks on page 10 feels like it's coming from town pressuring a read of theirs to get a better idea of the user. It doesn't feel forced or agenda-based to me. This contains my thoughts from page 10. I'm going to do the thing I did in Knight-Errant (I think) where I went through each page individually to catch up. Which I totally didn't steal from Jav. It's likely obvious from the above, but currently I'm thinking there's at least one, possibly two, but not likely three scum in the trio of clc/Daisocks/Ayia, and would prefer to lynch one of the former two today. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 7:52:38 GMT
Page 11: also i dont mind getting odm Thinking about it some now, is there a reason you didn't switch your vote there in this post? is there anything about your lynch on me that is not hard OMGUSas I have said, based off what you have said, the two factors getting in the way of your activity have been 'sleep' and 'school' which I have had to deal with all the same as you. Also, you attempted to deny my points for about a half an hour to an hour before actually stopping to go back and get 'reads'- which really are STILL based partly off activity apart from your reads on both me and Ayia (which oddly enough, are both on people who have expressed suspicion towards you as of late.) So you outright deny my point? Mhm. And, has it also occurred to you that both of you are one of the main people presenting srs rn? Or that I could have been, I dunno, fishing for scummy reactions to my paragraphs? Or more dialogue in general for ease of access to more reads? About halfway through this response I stop being able to follow it, but are you proposing that you intentionally made your earlier post to fish for scummy reactions and that those who scumread you are giving scummy reactions? Because I find it indicative of the opposite; Puppy's reaction's the exact kind of thing I'd expect from town and your initial post that sparked this discussion really doesn't feel like a reaction test, which makes this feel like a hard backtrack, especially considering that it took you a while to propose that you were reaction testing. You don't even actually say you were, which is in itself bad considering that if you were town doing a reaction test I'd expect you to be pretty excited about it having "caught scum" in your opinion and be more up front more quickly about your intentions. Start a wagon in a 20p game, with day+ deadlines? With a game such as this one, I would most likely expect scum to hop on pre-made wagons, while keeping a low-profile, no? Especially as early as day 1.And I'm only reciprocating my answers- You give well-thought out questions, maybe I'll start giving well-thought out answers. I'm keeping this in mind for if Dasocks flips scum. It feels super out of place and may be some kind of soft-defense of partners. What do you mean by "day+" by the way? The second part of this post is essentially Burden of Proof. My townread on Puppy strengthens on page 11; his frustration with Daisocks feels genuine in addition to the questioning. i tr dasocks. he's responded to puppy's pressure in a calm and reasonable way and wanting to get rid of lurkers d1 is far from scummy imo. i dislike how puppy has tried to dismiss dasocks' read on him as an omgus (it wasnt) and focused too much timezones / whether dasocks couldve posted before which is fairly irrelevant imo. scumlean him. It likely goes without saying that I have the polar opposite opinion. To me Daisocks feels like he's panicking and searching for a way to justify his lynch on Puppy, which in itself felt like a defensive overreaction. I've made my problems with wanting to lynch lurkers Day 1 clear, and I've mentioned why I like Puppy's attitude in the Daisocks conversation as well. It doesn't even look like Puppy's that focused on the question of timezones after it's initially brought up. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 8:12:02 GMT
The only reason I've repeated that response is because you continue to direct the conversation toward that reasoning, aside from the other reasoning that I based my argument off of in the first place. This is what I feel is happening in that conversation Wob . Are you denying that dasocks got defensive when I expressed slight suspicion in their claims? I still think it's incredibly interesting that dasocks went from a townread on me to an all-out scumread so quickly based off of one attack, without even lynching them. Also, OMGUS can apply to verbal attacks as well as lynches- it's about attacking someone solely because they attacked you, not lynching. This as well. Yes, there is a lot of interaction between Puppy and Dasocks, but the problem is how Dasocks's read flipped on a time from town to scum. There's no progression. ...What? Where did that even come from? I'm lynching Puppy :I and is wanting to lynch somebody that is unhelpful to town... bad? It is Day 1. Your line at the end of your readlist (which by the way on the surface level looks like your scumreads are Puppy and the low-posters), "Now, instead of pestering me for my read list, you have yet to give any semblance of yours," also is coming completely from left field and makes you look even worse regarding the idea that your attack on Puppy is omgus. This wasn't an initial problem you had with him unless I missed something (and if I am please quote what I'm missing) so it looks like you just decided to add it to attempt to fuel your case. Dasocks is frankly acting scummier than Puppy. However Puppy really feels like he’s scum going for the easy town lynch to act like he’s making reads (I think I worded that badly zzz) As for other players, CLC shouldn’t be lynched today, but if he continues his current style day 2, I would be cool to push him. Clc's almost invariably not going to have as much shitposting day 2, if that's what you're referring to. But what do you think of the other things I mentioned about him? Why do you think he shouldn't be today's lynch? |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 8:20:48 GMT
Champ's not among those I'd be content with lynching today, but I'm starting to get what was brought up about them, since a lot of their insight feels like they're just standing back and letting things progress themselves, without much questioning/pushing anywhere. Also hold up mr. ego is Vigvig? I've been thinking that was Rad rip me af tbh i myself am still undecided on puppy/da tbh ill admit ive been a little too aggro on VigVig, after reading back hes been far more helpful to town than say someone like durza. while on the topic of lurkers i know i was against it before but should we stay undecided on a lynch what do you guys think of a lurker lynch like dbw brought up before. i specifically want a lurker who hasn't hit their post count yet or OM room because i find him scummier than most. I've made my thoughts on lynching a lurker clear, but if for some reason we did lynch a lurker those who haven't hit the post count should be the explicitly Do-Not-Lynch pool because those are the ones invariably getting subbed. Incidentally, if we "can't decide" on a lynch it's fine, no reason to suddenly leap off everyone we find scummy and lynch a random slot with low content at this point. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 8:22:16 GMT
Ok I’ll talk more in a bit but I have to go to school soon and I slightly skimmed through all the messages, ok ayia is still scum to me champ but something had changed about ptac, i think ptac= town and vigvig scum cause of the fact he is literally plurshifting rn This feels so superficial-what, no one's allowed to shift plurality ever with their vote? Someone please explain to me how you're getting the feeling that Spiderz's posts are genuine. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 8:25:57 GMT
The fact that people are trying to make get attention off of Ayia just makes Ayia so much more scummier I think you're suffering from tunnel vision at that point. Xnad taking the words out of my mouth. There's no possible way for everyone who scumreads not-Ayia to be scum trying to shift attention elsewhere. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 8:27:36 GMT
idk if you already answered the question doneone else brought up or not school + currently being on mobile sucks, but spiderz what do you plan on doung should this turn up dead and ayia flips town? you seem so dead set on this that if it turns dead where do you go from here? you gotta remember we have to work as a team to find mafia as dead set as you are believing ayia is mafia tunneling doesnt help us much you have to leave yourself open minded to consider other options When it comes to that I will find out I’ve pointed out earlier about what fenrir said which was similar, but I guess if Ayia is town then scum is Most probabaly Dasocks, vig vig, Xnad, and 1 other Can you talk to me some about how Vigvig and Xnad are likely partners with a scum-aligned Dasocks? |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Mar 28, 2018 8:31:16 GMT
Lynchcount 1.12 5 Dasocks~* - Arsenal, ayia, Rocky Tactician, spiderz, incognito3 Rocky Tactician - Crespo, Dasocks~, Bomb Moss2 Wob - Durza, ScorrchingTheaph1 ayia - clc ironic1 Arsenal - Hawkie1 clc ironic - Fenrir1 OM~! - @toxicmahshroom If the deadline was right now, Dasocks~ would be lynched. The deadline is Wednesday the 28th of March, 3 PM EST. Players (+ their current lynch) - hingo (None) - Rocky Tactician ( Dasocks~) - Durza ( Wob ) - OM~! (None) - Arsenal ( Dasocks~) - qtball (None) - clc ironic ( ayia ) - spiderz ( Dasocks~) - Wob (None) - ayia ( Dasocks~ ) - VigilanteVigoroth (None) - Fenrir ( clc ironic) - Bomb Moss ( Rocky Tactician)s - Champ1604 (None) - incognito ( Dasocks~) - Crespo ( Rocky Tactician ) - Hawkie ( Arsenal) - @toxicmahshroom ( OM~!) - Dasocks~ ( Rocky Tactician) - ScorrchingTheaph ( Wob) We're close to the deadline people! Only 10 hours left... Only found a few changes these past few pages, so may have missed something. If so report it to me.
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 8:31:34 GMT
Hey guys I'm back. Today was a busy day and my timezone doesn't help either. Fenrir Aesir I wanted to lynch lurkers to make them talk more. I still stand by my initial statement that id lynch Ayia if both Ayia and Spiderz have the same amount of lynches. Also why did Fenrir SR Hingo and then ask people (mainly lurkers) to lynch ODM?? This was a while ago but its still something weird My hingo vote was left over from RVS; he's still a neutral read for me as I mentioned earlier. I wanted an ODM vote at the time for the purpose of pressure, but later moved to clc under the assumption that ODM's going to realize he can't lurk through this the way he did Knight-Errant (basically I think a FoS on ODM is enough to get the needed content from him). |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 8:34:04 GMT
I would prefer a clc or Daisocks lynch today and heavily lean towards clc because I get the feeling that if they aren't lynched today people will for one reason or another ignore them all the way to LyLo. Puppy should imo not be a wagon though and I'll easily lynch Daisocks if that ends up being needed to prevent a Puppy lynch today. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 8:52:20 GMT
I may as well get all my thoughts out while I'm here; it's something of a gut feeling/paranoia from Knight-Errant but Scorrching's vote on Thunder raises an eyebrow because it looks like a random vanity wagon from nowhere. You kind of just added it as an afterthought to your post without much in the way of pushing/questioning them and moved off them and onto Wob (also kind of out of left field) pretty quickly without really discussing your Thunder read that much. qtball can you talk to me about your Dasocks read some? Fenrir because well, he's also giving thoughtful responses which I've decided to value higher than usual this game due to its scarcity. you can fight me irl Zzz, I thought I'd typed up my thoughts on OM's most recent post. It's imo more of the same in the sense of tone, which is a good thing along with the open-mindedness with regards to Spiderz and Ayia. His response to Xnad's vote on him also reads as town who genuinely doesn't see the problem with where they're pushing.The line here really irks me. I feel it's fenrir pushing the fact that a lynch on him is a problem and anyone else who follows is dumb. I also don't trust his townread on me a single bit. A lynch on me is a problem and anyone who follows it is dumb What don't you trust about my read on you? If I did a poor job of articulating it, I have a hard time seeing scum motivation to open with a push such as your initial one and stick with it past RVS. It's something like the Cherry/Jeremiah situation early in the hydra game on anon, where I didn't really find Cherry's problem with Jeremiah's pregame posts a valid complaint but it also wasn't that scummy. (Of course, I was scum thought I could still push that wagon with little repercussion once I saw Jeremiah vote for it, but /shrug.) I don't like how Puppy's trying to get people to pay attention to the argument instead of other people however so it seems, at least to me, like a super sketchy attention redirect You don't think town would try to get people to pay attention to it if they wanted a Dasocks lynch? Where are they redirecting attention from in that scenario? Just don't post read lists? They kinda serve no purpose and is really very easy for scum to do to fake activity. Better option/lifehack: post your reads as they develop, then you're less likely to have to make a list in the first place since all your thoughts will already be there to see. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 9:11:31 GMT
Unlynch puppy lynch Dasocks Now that I think about it this makes more sense as scum I think scums main goal here is making Ayia town + trying not to make the scum team obvious, I think Vig vig just encouraged people to lynch puppy and shifting off Ayia but isn’t gonna actually lynch him, Xnad is lynching ptac so she has plur and and Ayia is gonna stay on Dasocks so ayia seems more townie, and they are planning to lynch Dasocks the goon tommorow over all making Ayia super townie I'm currently unsure on Ayia's alignment, but watch them die and flip town at some point followed by a sharp drop in Spiderz's activity because his entire view on the game is shaken. I'm calling it now. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 10:01:23 GMT
Welp, RIP this I guess. Unvote: DeathbywobbuffetWas hoping to get some kind of reaction to the naked vote-for some reason my mind flashed back to PSAnon and I remembered some dichotomy in the way you reacted to pressure as Roland v. Jacuzzi. ODM can actually wait for the time being; having just gone through clc's ISO I've concluded that some pressure is definitely needed here and I'm also convinced be a good lynch for today. Vote: clc ironiclast post before i go to sleep in class/have to get off this computer and go to my next class never quite got what the point of this was on fenrir's part felt like pointless filler imo. Maybe im in the dark because i wasn't in that anon game (or any anon game for that matter aj should start inviting me to those again) but im lost on why you expected him to react a certain way with no pressure on him at all and then shift to someone who i feel is a pretty easy wagon to hop on imo (most players have somewht of a scumred on clc for fillering the first half of d1 and getting active when the wagon on him started). IMO if you really wanted a reaction on him you would have stayed on and asked him questions pertaining to the game to see what he says. I wasn't actually in the Roland game either, but I have no life and read a lot of them and basically thought back to a moment when someone put a basically random lynch from nowhere on scum!DBW and he overreacted quite a bit defensively, and compared it to his behavior in G29 where (although there wasn't much effort to defend himself) he was significantly more composed and rational upon being lynched (both when I semi-random voted him Day 1 and when he was eventually lynched D3). I was hoping for some kind of telling reaction since the dichotomy was so distinct, but then once I prodded him to see if he'd seen my lynch on me he indicated he was here and didn't react to it in any way, which made it a lost cause as far as what I'd been looking for. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 10:02:47 GMT
Im lowkey anticipating someone to try and defuse these wagons onto lurker thoughts It's already happening somewhat. It's been happening since the start of the day. What do you think of that? |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 10:08:20 GMT
i know i said that was gonna be my last post but i found something interesting, adding on to what i said about fenrir, his interactions with dubs after that kinda disappeared but i find it strange that dubs said he town reads you imo, so i have two questions 1) Wob why do you town read fenrir and 2) Fenrir what was the point of the that little exchange you had with dbw earlier that you didnt go anywhere and then didnt push further onto getting a reaction even though you actions contridict your words imo. if it has something to do with that anon game shed some light on it for those of us who weren't in it. i havent played mafia in awhile but iirc one of the golden rules was d1 is the best time for scum partners to slip up on each other beacause they dont yet have a plan to really manipulate the town yet. i could see DubFen scum team but im not gonna jump the gun just yet i want them to answer the questions i gave them first before i go any further. but its a point i think i a better discussion point than this spiderz ayia puppy das jumbo mess going on rn Was this reiterating the question you asked above? If not, I'm bad and not realizing the difference in what's being asked.  mb om i missed the first time u asked, basically i felt like you had pretty flawed reasoning for pushing on fenrir (and still are pushing for him) as well as how supportive you were of spiderz push on ayia. at the time spiderz was a universal town read from everyone so getting goody gpody with him would help him tr you which would look good for you imo. I also dont like how generally inactive you've been in this game. Town OM wouldnt be like this imo which is why i sr you We probably have different experiences with OM, but I can easily see him being inactive as town just from memory of the games I've played with him/seen from him (off the top of my head each anon game I've seen him in). Incidentally the Anita game might actually have been when he was most active, but that was a...uh...special case. Nerd stole Ed's well-deserved "worst play" award. OM~! you mentioned not liking my tone, is that tied specifically to the "I will save this town" comments or an overarching thing? |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 11:04:51 GMT
 I got hyper-distracted. Am back now. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 11:10:03 GMT
highkey if Dasocks town ayia scum also highkey increasing post count pls don't sub me out love you snaq <3 You want to explain this some? |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 11:13:59 GMT
highkey if Dasocks town ayia scum also highkey increasing post count pls don't sub me out love you snaq <3 You want to explain this some? Actually, considering that you apparently townlean Dasocks now can you talk about that as well? AKA can you walk me through the whole process of why Dasocks is town and why that makes Ayia scum, and why you don't seem particularly concerned that your townlean Dasocks is the leading wagon but are fine with saying "If he's town get Ayia next"? |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Mar 28, 2018 11:17:29 GMT
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 11:30:10 GMT
I'm not necessarily suggesting someone who's literally saying nothing because as you said, they'll just be subbed out (I hope). I would prefer to get someone who's putting in zero effort or just fillering (e.g clc or hingo). This interaction also strikes me as a bit strange. Fen is putting out surprisingly very little pressure on someone who literally just asked for town to lynch a lurker. I'll admit that at first I overlooked wob's statement of targetting lurkers, but now that I am reading back this strikes me as very suspicious. >nah not rn, id just prefer to get low effort players out of the game before the late stages. that includes but is not necessarily limited to clc. a man of the woods Notice that wob + fen both start pressuring clc at around the same time, with fen saying things like, "Doesn't mean you get to lurk.  " Fen starts of just questioning clc, while wob starts pushing an actual lynch saying, "if everyone had this mindset we wouldnt get anywhere. you've been around long enough to know this by now, im not getting off," although he gets off immediately his next post. Then later, after wob has unlynched Fen comes in and pushes almost the exact same read (this is after he lynches and unlynches wob.) Although wob has unlynched, he still lists clc ironic as a scumlean on his readlist. I would like a CFD from the current Puppy vs. Daisocks lynch onto DeathByWobbuffet, please and thank you. DBW's not the only one who's proposed that a lurker be lynched, so by the logic you're proposing I must also be scum with anyone else who's done so. I disagree with the sentiment, but the likelihood that everyone who makes that proposition is scum is low. The initial comment of "Doesn't mean you get to lurk" was more of a joke in response to one of Clc's early posts, then I got to Clc's ISO and realized how much of a problem there actually was there. If I was a scumteam with DBW and we were attempting to push Clc, wouldn't it make sense for both of us to just stay on the wagon? What I'm interpreting is that you think I'm scum with DBW because we both scumread Clc and I did a quick reaction test on him, which to me doesn't make sense. |
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Post by Wob on Mar 28, 2018 11:33:57 GMT
also i dont mind getting odm Of course you don't. What does this mean? If you're suggesting some sort of bias, I don't think I've ever played a forum game with you before :x. |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 11:34:36 GMT
>also since you and xnad sure the same mentality that spiderz is going balls deep in ayia what do you think of xnad so far in this day 1? i dont think you've commented on xnad specififcally but if you have my b. @toxicmahshroom Xnad certainly seems to be acting in a pro-town manner. I would say he is a very slight town lean; mostly neutral. Although he has done nothing particularly scummy in my eyes, I am still watching out him. >I don't like how twinkle twink is handling this game. His posts seem fillery and/or trying too hard to seem like he's asking the 'good questions'. Scumlean. ODM ODM is town for having the guts to call out one of the most active players and almost a universal townread as a scumlean. I do have to disagree with his read though. The "good questions" are actual good questions. Scum can't have the guts to go against the consensus? As far as ODM's most recent posts go, I'm wanting to say they're NAI since they're pretty standard for ODM but then I'm paranoid because of the resemblance to the kind of reads he gave in Knight-Errant (holding off on people because they were "hard to read" comes to mind). Having (nearly) no town game of ODM's to compare this too has me wary. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 11:36:34 GMT
4- I don't like how twinkle twink is handling this game. His posts seem fillery and/or trying too hard to seem like he's asking the 'good questions'. Scumlean. I cant comment on too much because i have to vatch the school bus in a minute but ODM what do you mean by this? My post are fillerly because im asking good questions? |
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Post by Wob on Mar 28, 2018 11:40:37 GMT
ODM - scum will explain any of these if needed I'd ask you to explain how you got me as scum off of the one post I had prior to yours, but my mind just doesn't operate at a high level like yours and it'd probably be like someone explaining quantum physics to a 4 year old. In your signup post, you indicated that you thought the game would die, suggesting it would be filled with lurkers. In your first post of the game, you questioned champ for calling you a lurker and then proceeded to do nothing until now (i.e lurking). What I'm getting at is that your posts suggest that you're anti-lurking, but your activity says the opposite. Also your emotional response to my post (comparing me to a 4 year old) only further cements my scumread on you. Lynch ODM |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 28, 2018 11:43:25 GMT
i know i said that was gonna be my last post but i found something interesting, adding on to what i said about fenrir, his interactions with dubs after that kinda disappeared but i find it strange that dubs said he town reads you imo, so i have two questions 1) Wob why do you town read fenrir and 2) Fenrir what was the point of the that little exchange you had with dbw earlier that you didnt go anywhere and then didnt push further onto getting a reaction even though you actions contridict your words imo. if it has something to do with that anon game shed some light on it for those of us who weren't in it. i havent played mafia in awhile but iirc one of the golden rules was d1 is the best time for scum partners to slip up on each other beacause they dont yet have a plan to really manipulate the town yet. i could see DubFen scum team but im not gonna jump the gun just yet i want them to answer the questions i gave them first before i go any further. but its a point i think i a better discussion point than this spiderz ayia puppy das jumbo mess going on rn fenrir has been proactive in getting the game moving and his pressure on me makes sense imo. dont see how he townslipped either, OM~! elaborate pls. Am able to answer this; the "townslip attempt" was in my initial post about carrying this town to victory (which I will fight me) and that I've been continuing it through the day. Fenrir Wob and Arsenal , how about we compromise for the time being and Unvote: hingoVote ODMThe few posts he has are indicating that he's approaching this the way he did Knight-Errant, where he frankly lived too long without some form of pressure. For some reason ODM keeps rolling scum here so in a meta sense the only town game I have to reference is the Kazalie game where I shot him night 1, but even then he didn't procrastinate on giving his reads. I'd rather hear his thoughts currently even if they aren't "serious accusations." Champ1604 , b-but I'm going to save this town! What was the "it" you're referring to in response to the second quote on your post on me? C7's in my townreads currently; I'm dividing my current thoughts across posts for readability and intend to go through all my current reads after. Excuse me if I didn't see the reasoning why you got off hingo (unless you did it to get on ODM), but if you did not, then great, move on. If you did, then please just hit me up with the post again if it's a pain.. and still move on, but you can discard a point or two. So here's the main question to you: Why ODM? At the point when this post was made, I believe that even daisocks wasn't a key character. And DurzaOffTopic hasn't been a key character at any point. Why not him? Why ODM specifically? And also hingo.. he has been no different from ODM except that he didn't admit that he is lurking, while ODM did. The hingo vote was RVS, so it was to move to ODM. I decided to move there to put some pressure on him since his comment about "When I have a strong scumread I'll give it" almost immediately reminded me of him doing the exact same thing in Knight-Errant and getting away with it for way too long. Something of a way of pressuring him/letting him know that the same kind of attitude towards the game won't work in this. Welp, RIP this I guess. Unvote: Deathbywobbuffet Was hoping to get some kind of reaction to the naked vote-for some reason my mind flashed back to PSAnon and I remembered some dichotomy in the way you reacted to pressure as Roland v. Jacuzzi. This entire interaction strikes me as phony bologna. I'm seeing a Fen + Wob scum team early distance. - Wob's readlist page 13: "Fenrir - town" "will explain any of these if needed" This is very much needed. What reason would I have as scum to distance out of nowhere and with barely any follow up in terms of pushing/questioning? If someone's attempting to distance, they'd come to some kind of scumread conclusion and likely start pushing the person to some extent. incognito why the townread on Tottenham and scumread on C7? Especially the latter, none of his posts feel fillery to me. The comment on you continually rolling scum was more of a general observation than anything else. |
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" Fen starts of just questioning clc, while wob starts pushing an actual lynch saying, "if everyone had this mindset we wouldnt get anywhere. you've been around long enough to know this by now, im not getting off," although he gets off immediately his next post. Then later, after wob has unlynched Fen comes in and pushes almost the exact same read (this is after he lynches and unlynches wob.) Although wob has unlynched, he still lists clc ironic as a scumlean on his readlist.
