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Post by Bomb Moss on May 30, 2018 15:20:36 GMT
Sorry if this isn’t very clear or concise, this whole thing isn’t exactly mobile friendly. I’d first like to point out that b33 putting the spotlight on themselves, even as scum, isn’t anything new. In fact, their trolling simply paints them as bad town, aren’t scumread, and then they’re actually scum. So for this reason I still scumlean them. However, it’s a much smaller scumlean. Secondly, I felt that most of what Dark Matter Zero have said could be feigning activity, merely pointing simple things out or just fillering in posts straight up. Also they said earlier they would make a wallpost, that never came... instead responding to someone. :thinking:And I’d actually Unlynch b33, lynch Dark Matter Zero as to put some sort of pressure on them. Something about them just doesn’t sit right with me. (Also no, this isn’t omgus smh, though their lynch on me seems out-there. Speaking of our-there...) TBZ! You say you don’t try to lurk, but when you are here you don’t say much... at all. Simply saying you like to lynch outliers and lynching ayia (which is tbh not an outlier at all) saying they’re scummy... and that’s about it in the ~6 posts that were made. Which is interesting to me. ayia i townlean, for being an overall productive force in this entire day thus far. Same with Toni. That being said, I’m sorta inbetween on Sceptorus and ArkhamStorm. In all seriousness though, I doubt you've read my posts if this is the kind of conclusion you arrive at. If my post wasn't a wall, then what's this? My promised "wallpost" contained quotes yeah, but even if you take out the quotes it's definitely more content-filled than this post of yours. Feigning activity? Fillering straight up? Normally I'd try to provide counterexamples, but to me right now, this is such a unthinkable claim to make that I'm going to have to ask you to provide an example. I think I've gone deeper into analysis than anyone else has right now, not to sound arrogant, and you just dismissing it so simply just honestly upsets me. Why do I not sit right to you? If I'm fillering/feigning activity, why am I a target from anyone else? Why choose to target me right when I tried to pressure you? And as I'm responding to your "pressure" on me, I'm fully expecting you to respond to my "pressure" as well. What's productivity, in-between and all these terms you're using even mean to you now? Pointing out simple things? I pressured a healthy discussion point out of a post that went under the radar. Filler? I'm analysing what I can down to the motivations and implications. Feigning activity? I AM active, I'm responding to discussion points, expanding on previously made points, and starting new ones. And you pressure lynch me? Like this? With a weak claim of "Not OMGUS", what do you gain from this? Why do I need pressure on me? If my lynch on you was "out-there", what was my lynch on Sceptorus? Wouldn't any lynch on anyone be "out-there"? Or is it "out-there" just because it's on you, and you're feeling the heat? If my lynch on your is out-of-place, what's your lynch on me? It's like an OMGUS disguised as a pressure vote with a "Not OMGUS". You have a lot of questions and you've a lot to commit to lynching me here, I don't think you're Town right now and I don't think you think I am either, so we have a lot of talking to do. Sorry if I come across as arrogant or demeaning, or if I seem like I'm intentionally engaging in ad hominen. Your post is the most provoking so far and I really want to expand on this conversation.
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Post by Bomb Moss on May 30, 2018 15:21:19 GMT
You too, are fillering/lurking. Do you have a right to call people out for calling people out when your call out was to stop calling out? If so, what's stopping your call out victims for calling out fillers/lurkers when you're allowed to call people out for calling other people out while you yourself are doing what you tell people not to do? As in, you're telling people not to call out others for things they do. But you yourself are calling people out for something you yourself are doing (calling people out for calling people out), cemented even further by you being guilty of what they're specifically calling other people out on. Imma brb and eat, but can I just say xD this post is so confusing Lmao I know, I realized when I hit send.
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Post by qtball on May 30, 2018 15:33:45 GMT
Ugh I can't not filler it's too much fun :<
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Post by Bomb Moss on May 30, 2018 15:42:58 GMT
It's ok I filler too.
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Post by qtball on May 30, 2018 15:48:13 GMT
By the way my role is lowkey confusing af and I want to know what it means but won't find out till night I guess
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 16:19:54 GMT
Have you read any of this game at all or r u just ranting bout first forum fish ANDomg why is that thing so bigput those two together bc its basically the same kind of filler again if they wanted to say it ithey would,forcing a readfiller ^why are you pressuring this person to make reads that may not be incorrect because it's day 1 all of those posts could either have not been made at all or are meaningless not counting the one liners this is pretty much everything you've said after page 6,before that you contributed way more although i still disagree with continuously pressuring people for reads,they can post themselves if they feel it's necessary. did something happen in the meantime? After all it has been 2 days since the game began,someone not posting their reads is obviously either putting their reasoning together or hasn't formed reads at all,which imo is completely OK day 1 tl;dr questioning people's actions/reactions/whatever is perfectly fine,BUT pressuring people to make reads is something I see as a way to start manipulating them
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 16:22:19 GMT
Ugh I can't not filler it's too much fun :< filler should be policy lynched
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Post by Bomb Moss on May 30, 2018 16:23:21 GMT
PSA: I will shift to HappyLappy if it ends up being a tossup between him and b3362 and I have the deciding vote.
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Post by Schrodinger on May 30, 2018 16:25:05 GMT
How is pressuring people to give reads scummy like you wot m8. And how is making people give reads a way to start manipulating? Imo he was asking everyone's reads on everyone which is, nai i think. But still its bad to filler but we have more people who are fillering harder.
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Post by Dasocks~ on May 30, 2018 16:34:24 GMT
‘I don’t filler’ ‘Don’t worry tbz i filler too’
same
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Post by happylappy on May 30, 2018 16:36:43 GMT
So what do the Lynches look like right now?
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Post by ayia on May 30, 2018 16:45:05 GMT
I never understood why people have to ask for a reason in the first place. You have eyes and a brain, use them. Make your own reads. What I think shouldn't matter to you (I mean this in terms of, I think for myself, you shouldn't lynch someone just because I have x reasoning for it) deduce things on your own and stop needing a reason out of somebody to have to justify anything. It just makes for some useless filler Scumlean TBZ for this Clearly, if we ask for a reason for a lynch, it’s because we want YOUR reason for the lynch. Lynches should be justified, an unjustified lynch is scummy
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 16:45:14 GMT
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Post by qtball on May 30, 2018 16:47:02 GMT
An unjustified lynch is never scummy, and you're honestly incompetent for believing so. Lol. I refuse to give any more reasoning just for that, and if you want to policy me for that you're just ignoring the obvious
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Post by happylappy on May 30, 2018 16:47:31 GMT
b3362, can you lynch bro? You not lynching is so scummy tbh. Other than that claim, you havent done anything. And dont give me that 'im not serious' bs, or you will be policied. Time to stop answering questions and start asking instead Schrodinger Happylappy is literally doing the same thing,why are you pointing out drblode's doing so Also b3362 happylappy can you please provide reasoning on why you shouldn't be lynched,this is just annoying I've actually come to the conclusion that lappy could be some sort of jester that is intentionally lurking and fillering in order to be lynched or even a judas/saulus variation There is literally no other way to explain this,it's either that or they're trying to give mecha or Assemply towncred I TR Arkhan from pmeta but I don't want to exclude him from the pool so I'm keeping him in mind as well So you shouldn’t Lynch me because I haven’t done anything other than filler to warrant being Lynched. I do have scumreads, and I’m not a jester. I’m just afraid to get off of B3362, as (unless I counted wrong) I’m tied with them lynchwise. Sorry if this seems fillery, but I am just trying to respond to some of these posts.
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Post by ayia on May 30, 2018 16:52:51 GMT
What the heck stop writing literal essays Couple things: my above post is pretty much a condensed version of Dark Matter’s post, sorry, didnt mean to reiterate On Dark Matter vs. Sceptorus, I’m reading both as Town right now. I think Dark Matter has a point, but is (almost self admittedly) reading too much into a two liner. Btw this is as of finishing Page 8
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Post by ayia on May 30, 2018 16:56:37 GMT
Being scum and fakeclaiming a third party role, putting spotlight on them, is not a scum thing so imo b3362 is town. You say analyzing is very important in forum games, but i really cant and when you think about it, any statement can be taken as scummy or townie. Furthermore, i have been giving my own thoughts on the b3362, but you maybe havent seen that. I would also disagree with an ayia lynch d1, as they are a major contributor and one of those who give stuff or topics to talk about. And reading back on people's other forum games is pretty NAI. Also, its quite funny how tballz has done nothing but talk about first forum fishul, lynched someone, and then rant about people asking why you sr ayia. Im staying on happylappy as its generally scummy to admit to some scummy points, and ask for more ways in which they are scummy. And xnadroj, i dont think ive been fillering, i just said what i think is the definition of bad town as concepts may vary. While I agree with most of this post, the one thing I disagree with is ironically defending me. I don’t think somebody should be kept alive just because they are a town contributor. Scum that contribute are often very dangerous late game due to the trust built upon them. Does this mean we should go on a contributing witch hunt, lynching all that contribute? No, but we certainly shouldn’t not lynch someone on the sole basis of them contributing. Tell me if I’m misunderstanding this.
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Post by ayia on May 30, 2018 16:58:10 GMT
An unjustified lynch is never scummy, and you're honestly incompetent for believing so. Lol. I refuse to give any more reasoning just for that, and if you want to policy me for that you're just ignoring the obvious Responding to this before I read more We clearly aren’t going to get along here, and this goes beyond the scope of this game. Best just to agree to disagree; however, my opinions well perpetuate through how I play this game so know that
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 16:58:29 GMT
just realised I said I wasnt gonna plurshift and I plurshifted smfh unlynch happylappy
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 17:00:45 GMT
An unjustified lynch is never scummy, and you're honestly incompetent for believing so. Lol. I refuse to give any more reasoning just for that, and if you want to policy me for that you're just ignoring the obvious hard tr tbz for that,thats exactly what he does as town
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 17:02:46 GMT
I'd still like some more reasoning for it however (Accidentally edited that onto the previous post,deleted and reposting)
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Post by Schrodinger on May 30, 2018 17:04:04 GMT
I mean ayia, i wouldnt want to take the risk of lynching a great town so early on, but thats just me so you do you. also happylappy, you say you have scumreads and shit, but i havent seen you post them. Or indicate them at the very least.
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Post by happylappy on May 30, 2018 17:04:56 GMT
Sorry to re-hl you Crespo but I saw you were online/posted here, and didn't address this question. No worries if you missed it, just want to hear your explanation of the two reads. Or if they have changed that's cool too, just what they are now/brief reasons would be great Omg sorry I didn't see this!! My reads on b(numbers) still stay the same. **I find HappyLappy town bc he is a lot more aggresive as scum.** Can you elaborate a bit more on this please Toni XY? I don’t quite understand how this makes me Town in your book.
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Post by ayia on May 30, 2018 17:05:20 GMT
By that logic xnadrojx, the whole mafia game should be dead, and no one will speak because it atracts attention. All i want to say is i do think b3362 is town because why would scum EVER want to put light on themselves? Town doesnt really care if attention is on them or not, but they always want that their reads are put in the limelight so that they can be pressed, the way b3362 is rn. But again, if i fail to convince you, i cant really do anything but b3362 just is town. This makes me townread Sceptorus less The idea of “town being okay with attention” is easily wifomable, so using this as a sole reason for b#’s Towniness is kinda bad I still see you as more town than scum but still
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Post by Dasocks~ on May 30, 2018 17:06:19 GMT
In all seriousness though, I doubt you've read my posts if this is the kind of conclusion you arrive at. I have, which is why I came to these conclusions in the first place... If my post wasn't a wall, then what's this? yeah yeah, I’ll admit I managed to completely skim over it before typing that up. My promised "wallpost" contained quotes yeah, but even if you take out the quotes it's definitely more content-filled than this post of yours. Lessee. Pointing out the obvious? Check. And that’s pretty much all I gathered. Hence, Feigning activity? this. Fillering straight up? yes. you even admit to it Normally I'd try to provide counterexamples, but to me right now, this is such a unthinkable claim to make that I'm going to have to ask you to provide an example. in a later post since quoting on mobile is a no no I think I've gone deeper into analysis than anyone else has right now Very arguable , not to sound arrogant, and you just dismissing it so simply just honestly upsets me. I’m not dismissing anything. Most of what you’re discussing holds little weight in this game as a whole. Why do I not sit right to you? Refer to my above thoughts. That question shouldn’t have to be asked, really If I'm fillering/feigning activity, why am I a target from anyone else? ...because you are fillering/feigning activity? And therefore are A target (Note: I didn’t say ‘the’ because i have multiple) Why choose to target me right when I tried to pressure you? i figured this would be a response. It’s because I wasn’t able to post my wall before you lynched me. and that should be, again, at least a bit obvious And as I'm responding to your "pressure" on me, I'm fully expecting you to respond to my "pressure" as well. What pressure? What's productivity, in-between and all these terms you're using even mean to you now? ‘All these terms you’re using’. Cute. And productivity means the same to me as it always has- healthy contribution to an ulterior goal; in this case, a town win. Pointing out simple things? Yes. We can all see that only a few people have been contributing to the conversation. I pressured a healthy discussion point out of a post that went under the radar. which was? Filler? I'm analysing what I can down to the motivations and implications. Refer to above thoughts on fillering, also you’re repeating yourself Feigning activity? I AM active, I'm responding to discussion points, expanding on previously made points, and starting new ones. Again, refer to above points. Also you’re repeating yourself. And, pray tell, which points have you ‘expanded’ or ‘started’?
And you pressure lynch me? Like this? With a weak claim of "Not OMGUS", what do you gain from this? Discussion. And even you have to admit me prodding you has sprouted one, no? Why do I need pressure on me? From what I garnered, you had little to none. Of course others aren’t exempt, but you were the most active example, which meant you would be most likely to respond. Some pressure is better than no pressure, in my opinion. If my lynch on you was "out-there", what was my lynch on Sceptorus? out-there. Were you expectint anything less? Wouldn't any lynch on anyone be "out-there"? No, only the ones backed with no reasoning. Or is it "out-there" just because it's on you, and you're feeling the heat? Nope. I frankly don’t care about lynch heat, at any rate. You can even look back in this game for evidence. If my lynch on your is out-of-place, what's your lynch on me? It's like an OMGUS disguised as a pressure vote with a "Not OMGUS". It isn’t omgus because it has reason. End of story. You have a lot of questions and you've a lot to commit to lynching me here, I don't think you're Town right now and I don't think you think I am either, so we have a lot of talking to do. Never said I thibk you aren’t town, just saying. Though, now it’s definitely a possibility.
Sorry if I come across as arrogant or demeaning, or if I seem like I'm intentionally engaging in ad hominen. Your post is the most provoking so far and I really want to expand on this conversation.
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