Qualifier #3: Closed Setup (Forum Official) | GG TOWN

[motogp]

ayia,thunderballz,what makes you hesitant to believe my claim?
Haven't I provided enough evidence on it?

[Schrodinger]

This seems like town imo.

[motogp]

unlynch happylappy
lynch b33362
As long as I have 3 lynches,I will keep shifting plur to someone else
The wagon on me is dumb
If we get a sub ill reconsider
sceptorus is a tr
ayia is null because ive noticed an interesting pattern of buddying with mm2
tbz is null
lappy is null
arsenal is scumlean
mm2 is scum

[motogp]

reread lappy's reads,they seem kinda made up now that I think of it
on the other hand we have this

"yeah im also finding it weird that mecha was able to recognize that link but he seems townie so im letting it go for now"

mecha has done literally nothing other than that and the push on me
how did you deduce they are town?

please watch ayia+mm2 if I end up lynched thanks

[motogp]

also lappy is potential third party but im gonna reread on them

[motogp]

noticed that ayia has been trying to slowly shift attention from mm2 to me for a few pages now

[Bomb Moss]

I win when I kill everyone

What's the point of asking that? Any self-respsecting CS maker should have an out for the scum when it comes to shit like role PM meta, and you should know it too. Now I don't think filler is bad, but only when it's blatant that it's filler. That post just rings me as something Town wouldn't bother to do tbh. And also, there's so much else going on in the game, what are your thoughts on everything else that's happening Schrodinger ?

[Bomb Moss]

oh fuck there was another page whoops

[Bomb Moss]

Lynch motogp

It's not when a man stands in times of comfort, but when a man stands in times of difficulty that his true colors shine.

[motogp]

Jun 1, 2018 5:29:48 GMT Bomb Moss said:

Lynch motogp

It's not when a man stands in times of comfort, but when a man stands in times of difficulty that his true colors shine.

>points out sceptorus for his filler but lynches me instead
thats plain bs lol

[motogp]

also I think that you are lynching me because of my reaction to pressure,however even ayia admits that my latest reactions have been towny
you are toni right?

[Bomb Moss]

lol I'm xnad.

And I think you misunderstood me. Let me pull up my reasoning paragraph

[motogp]

nvm you're xnadrojx
aka one of the only people that trd me
care to elaborate?

[motogp]

lol at how ive responded to everything im being srd for yet i still have 4 lynches
also notice how mm2 intentionally delayed their response to stall out dl
Bomb Moss what makes you not believe my role

[motogp]

regarding my role pm it says that "none tries to hurt the queen that is you" so maybe im buletproof too? Idk
doesnt fit in with the rest but just saying

[Bomb Moss]

I'm lynching you because I don't think you're Town.

I don't think you're Town because of the way you're playing right now, I liked your earlier play because there were signs of promise, that you were going to catch scum and push them. But the moment you got pushed, admittedly a terrible push but that's not the point here, your priorities just shifted rails. You went from looking for scum to trying to push everything about the people who pushed you. I agree the first 2 lynches were bullshit. But it's precisely becaue it's bullshit that your play after it rings so many bells. It shouldn't take that much effort to tell a baseless lynch to "fuck off". You and me, we were in similar spots. You got baselessly pushed by Ican'trememberwho, I got BSed by Daisocks.

I, like you, reacted extremely heavily to Daisocks' lynch on me. I thought Daisocks genuinely believed in his argument, and I wanted to learn more about his argument, before I realized his arguments were pretty BS from my POV and thus concluded he was coming from a scum perspective.

But you, didn't bother to look for alignments, motives, anything. You straight up called each and every one of the people who lynched you "scum". No questions, no anything. You could have just told them that their arguments were wrong, pulled up some quotes, or just told them to "fuck off" if you will, and you'll have continues scumhunting, looking for alignments etc. But you didn't go about it that way. You chose to immediately assume that the people lynching you were scum because they lynched you when you thought they were BS lynches. And they were, but your very actions made them not "BS" lynches anymore.

Yes, this all started because of a baseless lynch on you that randomly got votes. You got hit by a random bullet that someone shot. But what you did was essentially digging your own grave. As Town, your goal isn't to live. Your goal is to find scum, and keep as many other Town alive as possible. You may argue that living is a crucial part of finding Scum, but if the way you choose to go about it is to push everyone that lynches you for "being scum", without actually going deeper to discern their true alignment and whether or not they truly feel you're scum, then you're only tripping up other Town. It's like what I said to TBZ, it's a team game.

And if you really do think that the people that lynch you coincidentally happen to be your scumreads, please provide better cases on them that don't feel like stretches to get them lynched.

Overall, the heavy overreactions are something I too was guilty of and I'll let that go from you, but I think you're scum because of the way you're treating the people lynching you, not necessarily because of the reactions.




BTW Daisocks when will you get access to a device where you can actually continue our conversation?

[motogp]

nvm its related to my second thing
I steal their wig/gun if they try to point it at me,and I kill them instead,because none tries to hurt the queen that is me
im probably some sort of op town role so dont lynch me tysmmm
also if I get lynched,judging by how ayia completely ignored my claim and mm2 sayed that they believe it,but are still on me "because its similar to amauras",,which is plain ridiculous
which can be even considered a slip because I imagine that all town role pms are like that

[Bomb Moss]

Jun 1, 2018 5:33:17 GMT motogp said:

nvm you're xnadrojx
aka one of the only people that trd me
care to elaborate?

Yeah, I TRed your early post. Not the drastic change in attitude you had, which 180ed my whole read of you

Jun 1, 2018 5:36:42 GMT motogp said:

lol at how ive responded to everything im being srd for yet i still have 4 lynches
also notice how mm2 intentionally delayed their response to stall out dl
Bomb Moss what makes you not believe my role

1. Yeah happylappy also responded to everything he's SRed for but he's still scummy as fuck. Responding to what you're being SRed for doesn't mean they're invalid if your countercase isn't strong enough

2. Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch

3. I don't not believe it, I'm just not going to take it into consideration given that's it's VERY LIKELY a Role Madness game. And your role isn't that powerful/can belong to scum even if it was true anyways but that's a stretch and honestly too much WIFOM for me.

[Bomb Moss]

Jun 1, 2018 5:46:12 GMT motogp said:

nvm its related to my second thing
I steal their wig/gun if they try to point it at me,and I kill them instead,because none tries to hurt the queen that is me
im probably some sort of op town role so dont lynch me tysmmm
also if I get lynched,judging by how ayia completely ignored my claim and mm2 sayed that they believe it,but are still on me "because its similar to amauras",,which is plain ridiculous
which can be even considered a slip because I imagine that all town role pms are like that

"im probably some sort of op town role so dont lynch me tysmmm"

If you say so

"also if I get lynched,judging by how ayia completely ignored my claim and mm2 sayed that they believe it,but are still on me "because its similar to amauras",,which is plain ridiculous"

All town role PMs are the same? Or everyone has the same role? What?

[motogp]

Jun 1, 2018 5:44:54 GMT Bomb Moss said:

I'm lynching you because I don't think you're Town.

I don't think you're Town because of the way you're playing right now, I liked your earlier play because there were signs of promise, that you were going to catch scum and push them. But the moment you got pushed, admittedly a terrible push but that's not the point here, your priorities just shifted rails. You went from looking for scum to trying to push everything about the people who pushed you. I agree the first 2 lynches were bullshit. But it's precisely becaue it's bullshit that your play after it rings so many bells. It shouldn't take that much effort to tell a baseless lynch to "fuck off". You and me, we were in similar spots. You got baselessly pushed by Ican'trememberwho, I got BSed by Daisocks.

I, like you, reacted extremely heavily to Daisocks' lynch on me. I thought Daisocks genuinely believed in his argument, and I wanted to learn more about his argument, before I realized his arguments were pretty BS from my POV and thus concluded he was coming from a scum perspective.

But you, didn't bother to look for alignments, motives, anything. You straight up called each and every one of the people who lynched you "scum". No questions, no anything. You could have just told them that their arguments were wrong, pulled up some quotes, or just told them to "fuck off" if you will, and you'll have continues scumhunting, looking for alignments etc. But you didn't go about it that way. You chose to immediately assume that the people lynching you were scum because they lynched you when you thought they were BS lynches. And they were, but your very actions made them not "BS" lynches anymore.

Yes, this all started because of a baseless lynch on you that randomly got votes. You got hit by a random bullet that someone shot. But what you did was essentially digging your own grave. As Town, your goal isn't to live. Your goal is to find scum, and keep as many other Town alive as possible. You may argue that living is a crucial part of finding Scum, but if the way you choose to go about it is to push everyone that lynches you for "being scum", without actually going deeper to discern their true alignment and whether or not they truly feel you're scum, then you're only tripping up other Town. It's like what I said to TBZ, it's a team game.

And if you really do think that the people that lynch you coincidentally happen to be your scumreads, please provide better cases on them that don't feel like stretches to get them lynched.

Overall, the heavy overreactions are something I too was guilty of and I'll let that go from you, but I think you're scum because of the way you're treating the people lynching you, not necessarily because of the reactions.




BTW Daisocks when will you get access to a device where you can actually continue our conversation?

I dont sr tbz
and nor did I sl ayia until I figured out the mm2 buddying
(They would accuse me of pocketing if i didnt tbh)

You cant compare our cases because you got 1 lynch,and I got 3,all of which were pointless
mm2 lynched me for basically no reason,ayia lynched because they "agreed with mecha"
and tbz just hopped on the bw to prevent the rest from getting lynched

mecha has been deflecting,not countering my arguments 

and yes I cannot scumhunt with a bw on my back
the scumhunting you were talking about was the reason mecha based their argument off
so I think we are talking about POVs

If you see this objectively,I pushed happylappy way more than mecha
who didnt even sr me as they mentioned,or even lynch me
so that point does not stand
I can admit that my reaction was bad,but so was yours
and albeit we both presented a handful of arguments,mecha's lynch immediately got support,while dasocks' did not
quite possibly because mecha is scum and dasocks is town

to be fair,having a bandwagon on my back has helped me notice deduce a lot more stuff that I hadnt noticed earlier such as the ayia buddying etc

However I do think that the whole thing is quite bs
I still townread you nevertheless,because you actually presented arguments that make sense

My goal is to live because my role is probably one of the most powerful ones in the game,and can help town like that
I may even get nightkilled if scum wants to take the gamble

you can ignore 1,or 2 lynches
not an entire bandwagon

if you see this from my pov,you will agree with me

[motogp]

Jun 1, 2018 5:50:44 GMT Bomb Moss said:

Jun 1, 2018 5:46:12 GMT motogp said:

nvm its related to my second thing
I steal their wig/gun if they try to point it at me,and I kill them instead,because none tries to hurt the queen that is me
im probably some sort of op town role so dont lynch me tysmmm
also if I get lynched,judging by how ayia completely ignored my claim and mm2 sayed that they believe it,but are still on me "because its similar to amauras",,which is plain ridiculous (I missed a "make your own deducements here)
which can be even *be considered a slip because I imagine that all town role pms are like that

"im probably some sort of op town role so dont lynch me tysmmm"

If you say so

"also if I get lynched,judging by how ayia completely ignored my claim and mm2 sayed that they believe it,but are still on me "because its similar to amauras",,which is plain ridiculous"

All town role PMs are the same? Or everyone has the same role? What?
I am imagining that they are similar,since they all present an aspect of how the person sees town
(Like sceptorus mentioned which made me townlock them)
and amaura's ofcourse

[motogp]

and mine (it says I need to be the center of attention)

[motogp]

also Bomb Moss idk if i mentioned,but I did prove wrong every single one of them
reading the past few pages can help

[Dasocks~]

Probably in the morning, Xnad. I would do it on mobile, but the response would be messy and bad.

[motogp]

Jun 1, 2018 6:27:40 GMT Dasocks~ said:

Probably in the morning, Xnad. I would do it on mobile, but the response would be messy and bad.

thoughts on my case?