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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on May 30, 2018 6:36:20 GMT
amauraman died. Hello, Larry Maray. You’ve got great stamina. You’ve participated in many marathons, and have even participated in the olympic games in some endurance sports. Because of this, you’ll survive being killed. Or at least, it’ll be postponed. The killer will come back to finish you the next night. However, you will be informed that you were wounded if someone tried to attack you. If you manage to lynch the person who tried to kill you the next day, they won’t be able to finish you off, and you will not die at all. You’re absolutely shocked at the state of mayhem the town is in. Power should be put into sports, not killing. You win when the town’s returned to its original state. Modkilled. I'll extend this day by a day (so until Friday 3 PM EST), because of this. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on May 30, 2018 6:59:46 GMT
Being scum and fakeclaiming a third party role, putting spotlight on them, is not a scum thing so imo b3362 is town. You say analyzing is very important in forum games, but i really cant and when you think about it, any statement can be taken as scummy or townie. Furthermore, i have been giving my own thoughts on the b3362, but you maybe havent seen that. I would also disagree with an ayia lynch d1, as they are a major contributor and one of those who give stuff or topics to talk about. And reading back on people's other forum games is pretty NAI. Also, its quite funny how tballz has done nothing but talk about first forum fishul, lynched someone, and then rant about people asking why you sr ayia. Im staying on happylappy as its generally scummy to admit to some scummy points, and ask for more ways in which they are scummy. And xnadroj, i dont think ive been fillering, i just said what i think is the definition of bad town as concepts may vary. So you see claiming scum as Town because it's "not a scum thing"? What differentiates "pointless filler" and "NAI meming" from "town posting"? I don't neccesarily need deep analysis and stuff like that, your thoughts and provoking discussion are also ways to contribute. Yes, I did talk about how any statement can be taken as being scummy/townie if you think about it enough, which is why thoughts far more than 2-liner posts are needed to make me want to read it. I'm sorry if I missed it, but I didn't see what thoughts you had. All I saw was you defining what you meant by bad town and saying b3362 might be bad town. That does not qualify as "thoughts", it's non-commital and it shows me nothing about how you think. But the key point I was conveying in my above wallpost placed emphasis on the distinction behind bad town and scum. If that's your definition of bad town, how do you identify bad town? If they feel scummy to other players, how do you differentiate between bad town and scum? I'm not trying to say "bad town" is a flawed concept that should not be used, I'm saying that to use it, you should be ready with a whole lot of backup to clearly draw the distinction between bad town and scum, which you didn't provide in your 2-liner post nor this reply. Defining what you think "bad town" is and throwing out an iffy "thought" that doesn't tell me anything definitely rings my "filler" bell. The closest you had to content was "I feel like youve just been pointing people's faults and reads but havent given any of yours", which isn't helpful at all as it's a general statement, what do you mean by "pointing out faults"? What's wrong with that? What consequences does not giving his reads entail? It's the shallowest of "thoughts" that can be made, enough that regardless of it's truth or falsehood, it's just another "pointing out the obvious" or "pretending to look busy". This post of yours is definitely a better example of non-filler, your post has substance to actually reply to as shown by what I'm doing now. You can ask questions or do whatever, directly initiating interactions between players is definitely a better way to grasp someone's alignment than making an isolated post and waiting for a response. |
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Post by Schrodinger on May 30, 2018 7:38:23 GMT
Dude xnadrojx, i clearly said that scum wouldnt shift attention to themself, as b3362 has so i think that is reasoning and i dont understand how you fail to notice that twice. But still i townlean you for encouraging others to speak and pointing stuff out.
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Post by Bomb Moss on May 30, 2018 8:16:15 GMT
Uh I didn't see it the first time, but I did see it the second time and I'm still confused.
Why do you think shifting attention to themselves is Town? Your argument here is that Scum wouldn't want to, but the same argument can be made that Town wouldn't want to either. Why is the self-attention considered "Town" rather than "NAI"?
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Post by Schrodinger on May 30, 2018 9:32:37 GMT
By that logic xnadrojx, the whole mafia game should be dead, and no one will speak because it atracts attention. All i want to say is i do think b3362 is town because why would scum EVER want to put light on themselves? Town doesnt really care if attention is on them or not, but they always want that their reads are put in the limelight so that they can be pressed, the way b3362 is rn. But again, if i fail to convince you, i cant really do anything but b3362 just is town.
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Post by Crespo on May 30, 2018 9:36:46 GMT
ok then. What are your thoughts on the whole b# situation? In forum games I ignore where the focus is and try and find outliers lynch ayia This is so scummy I lol Can you answer my question instead of avoiding it? |
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Post by Crespo on May 30, 2018 9:40:57 GMT
Jesus Christ Jordan are you writing a mini essay
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 10:06:43 GMT
hey ugh I'm actually here for once
Having read through the past pages,I feel that what b#
did was quite scummy,and his reaction to being pressured for that kinda seems like scum trying to get attention off themselves.
I also scum read MechaMew for excessively defending such a scummy act,although it doesn't seem likely that they are scumpartners since I don't think mecha would do it to defend scumpartner.What seems feasible however is mecha trying to use that defense to frame b# if they are town,in order to get them lynched after them
However,it seems unlikely for b# to be town,and I can definitely read that as a third party trying to get lynched or nightkilled
Also scumlean on Toni for suggesting massclaim and their whole attitude
Btw which one is happylappy I fail to recall their forum name
Regarding TRs,I feel Sceptorus and ayia are probably town,and while ayia is gut,I feel Sceptorus quite screams town by their response to pressure
I would also tr the dude that got modkilled
I seriously can't read tbz because lurking is not his style whatsoever but his statements seemed nai to me
so slight scumlean there too
sry for being away I will try to be more active after my finals week which is this one
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Post by Crespo on May 30, 2018 10:17:11 GMT
hey ugh I'm actually here for once Having read through the past pages,I feel that what b# did was quite scummy,and his reaction to being pressured for that kinda seems like scum trying to get attention off themselves. I also scum read MechaMew for excessively defending such a scummy act,although it doesn't seem likely that they are scumpartners since I don't think mecha would do it to defend scumpartner.What seems feasible however is mecha trying to use that defense to frame b# if they are town,in order to get them lynched after them Mecha isn't defending him?However,it seems unlikely for b# to be town,and I can definitely read that as a third party trying to get lynched or nightkilled Also scumlean on Toni for suggesting massclaim and their whole attitude aww thanks. Do you have a suggestion as to what we can to or are you just gonna follow what over people said about me x.Btw which one is happylappy I fail to recall their forum name whatRegarding TRs,I feel Sceptorus and ayia are probably town,and while ayia is gut,I feel Sceptorus quite screams town by their response to pressure I would also tr the dude that got modkilled this helps because...?I seriously can't read tbz because lurking is not his style whatsoever but his statements seemed nai to me You sr him for doing what you've been doing until now?so slight scumlean there too sry for being away I will try to be more active after my finals week which is this one You've been active on PS but not been on here. Makes a lot of sense. |
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Post by Crespo on May 30, 2018 10:19:08 GMT
hey ugh I'm actually here for once Having read through the past pages,I feel that what b# did was quite scummy,and his reaction to being pressured for that kinda seems like scum trying to get attention off themselves. I also scum read MechaMew for excessively defending such a scummy act,although it doesn't seem likely that they are scumpartners since I don't think mecha would do it to defend scumpartner.What seems feasible however is mecha trying to use that defense to frame b# if they are town,in order to get them lynched after them Mecha isn't defending him?However,it seems unlikely for b# to be town,and I can definitely read that as a third party trying to get lynched or nightkilled Also scumlean on Toni for suggesting massclaim and their whole attitude aww thanks. Do you have a suggestion as to what we can to or are you just gonna follow what over people said about me x.Btw which one is happylappy I fail to recall their forum name whatRegarding TRs,I feel Sceptorus and ayia are probably town,and while ayia is gut,I feel Sceptorus quite screams town by their response to pressure I would also tr the dude that got modkilled this helps because...?I seriously can't read tbz because lurking is not his style whatsoever but his statements seemed nai to me You sr him for doing what you've been doing until now?so slight scumlean there too sry for being away I will try to be more active after my finals week which is this one You've been active on PS but not been on here. Makes a lot of sense.Incase it wasn't obvious enough, my thoughts are in bold. |
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 11:20:28 GMT
well it is a fact that I haven't been on pro boards in quite a while,this isn't lurking is it?
Also I'm gonna give evidence in a few minutes
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 11:29:52 GMT
60% of your posts are filler,the rest are basically commenting on other people's reads,asking for reads,and being defensive every time someone points out your behavior
can't quote every single one of them bc mobile just read the last 4-5 pages
Anyone can see there is sometime wrong with that,idk if forum mafia is really different to server mafia but that's definitely not how you play as town
HappyLappy is also extremely fillery,if I was more active myself I would suggest a policy lynch
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 11:33:43 GMT
can't edit , you aren't contributing to scum hunting because of that,same goes for lappy
all of that probably indicate a third party role,not 100% certain about that,you could also be scum trying to distance yourself from the rest or a good town role?
btw @darkechozero can you like confirm you're here or a sub may be needed
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Post by Bomb Moss on May 30, 2018 11:37:13 GMT
Don't get me wrong I do TR b3362 as I've mentioned several times. I was trying to press at the holes in your logic to find your motives, your opinions.
Yes, Town wants to be in attention. But they want to be in good kind of attention, no? The kind of attention b3362 put himself in... can't exactly be considered good.
I could write a lot more but that might cause more misunderstandings because I don't think you got the point of what I was saying.
To put it short and concisely, why is b3362's situation considered "townie" rather than "NAI"? Why is the attention he gained a point supporting him being Town rather than being NAI? This is the question I need to get answered from you.
Toni you got a problem? I'll join your survivor game to spam it up if you force my hand I'll have you know :shades:
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Post by Bomb Moss on May 30, 2018 11:39:41 GMT
I like to think I filler far... far.. more in server mafia, mostly because individual instances of filler on forums are confined to specific sections of my posts and is generally foreshadowed by the larger part of it.
motogp, what's the difference between 3rd party and scum play to you? You talk about Toni being a possible 3rd party and I'm not agreeing/disagreeing, but I need to see a deeper thought process behind this please. Also, who's this "@darkechozero"?
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 11:42:56 GMT
well unless your wincon is being killed I don't think it's good for scum to draw attention to himself UNLESS he thought he would get away with he fakeclaim which also makes no sense because he would probably get nightkilled regardless
However town wouldn't simply get away with such a fakeclaim so I'm thinking he may have predicted that someone would point that out in order to avoid being nightkilled so he could be a powerful town role or some sort of survivor idk maybe I'm analyzing this a lot
seems like WIFOM to me
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 11:47:27 GMT
I like to think I filler far... far.. more in server mafia, mostly because individual instances of filler on forums are confined to specific sections of my posts and is generally foreshadowed by the larger part of it. motogp, what's the difference between 3rd party and scum play to you? You talk about Toni being a possible 3rd party and I'm not agreeing/disagreeing, but I need to see a deeper thought process behind this please. Also, who's this "@darkechozero"? uhh im bad at life it's darkmatterzero and it's you LOL also I can't help but see something similar in both wifom cases also 3rd party and scum play is obviously different,regular scum usually tries to draw attention off themselves and their partner or bus their partner while carefully hindering town while 3rd party usually aims to be town read but not nightkilled and help town discover the rest of the scum in early days and THEN hinder town by misleading them |
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Post by Crespo on May 30, 2018 11:47:57 GMT
60% of your posts are filler,the rest are basically commenting on other people's reads,asking for reads,and being defensive every time someone points out your behavior can't quote every single one of them bc mobile just read the last 4-5 pages Anyone can see there is sometime wrong with that,idk if forum mafia is really different to server mafia but that's definitely not how you play as town HappyLappy is also extremely fillery,if I was more active myself I would suggest a policy lynch This isn't evidence at all. Give some quotes maybe? |
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Post by Crespo on May 30, 2018 11:48:41 GMT
Toni you got a problem? I'll join your survivor game to spam it up if you force my hand I'll have you know :shades: I'll change my profile to a profile which worships you and Sparkli together. |
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Post by happylappy on May 30, 2018 11:48:49 GMT
hey ugh I'm actually here for once Having read through the past pages,I feel that what b# did was quite scummy,and his reaction to being pressured for that kinda seems like scum trying to get attention off themselves. I also scum read MechaMew for excessively defending such a scummy act,although it doesn't seem likely that they are scumpartners since I don't think mecha would do it to defend scumpartner.What seems feasible however is mecha trying to use that defense to frame b# if they are town,in order to get them lynched after them However,it seems unlikely for b# to be town,and I can definitely read that as a third party trying to get lynched or nightkilled Also scumlean on Toni for suggesting massclaim and their whole attitude Btw which one is happylappy I fail to recall their forum name Regarding TRs,I feel Sceptorus and ayia are probably town,and while ayia is gut,I feel Sceptorus quite screams town by their response to pressure I would also tr the dude that got modkilled I seriously can't read tbz because lurking is not his style whatsoever but his statements seemed nai to me so slight scumlean there too sry for being away I will try to be more active after my finals week which is this one Hi motogp, I’m happylappy! |
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Post by Crespo on May 30, 2018 11:51:03 GMT
60% of your posts are filler,the rest are basically commenting on other people's reads,asking for reads,and being defensive every time someone points out your behavior This is just wrong. 60% probably bc I have posted the most ._. Do you have a problem with me asking for reads and commenting on them once they are posted? |
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 11:51:07 GMT
Again that's just what I've noticed from ps mafia idk if it's different here
Toni just read up everything you've said from page 5 onward if you still want quotes you'll have to wait till I get access to a computer
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Post by motogp on May 30, 2018 11:56:29 GMT
60% of your posts are filler,the rest are basically commenting on other people's reads,asking for reads,and being defensive every time someone points out your behavior This is just wrong. 60% probably bc I have posted the most ._. Do you have a problem with me asking for reads and commenting on them once they are posted? Continuously asking for reads day 1 when none has formed a final opinion on people not only looks like a way to justify contribution despite not trying to scumhunt but also a way to grab useful information in order to mislead individual townies in the following days I am utterly against asking for reads d1 unless the person is about to be hammered,especially in forum mafia where there is no reason to do so since people will post them by themselves sooner or later |
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Post by Bomb Moss on May 30, 2018 12:04:41 GMT
also 3rd party and scum play is obviously different,regular scum usually tries to draw attention off themselves and their partner or bus their partner while carefully hindering town while 3rd party usually aims to be town read but not nightkilled and help town discover the rest of the scum in early days and THEN hinder town by misleading them Yes I know they're different, I want to know what you think are the differences because after reading this I think we have very, very different ideas. I'm going to assume by "scum" you mean group scum, like the Mafia, and by "3rd party" you mean solo scum, like a Serial Killer. What's stopping regular scum from aiming to be townread and finding the third party like you say the 3rd party wants to do to the Mafia? Why does 3rd party not want to avoid drawing attention? All your points can be used by both factions imo, 3rd party also wants to avoid drawing attention and hinder town, while scum also wants to get townread, avoid nightkills from the third party and help town lynch the third party. To differentiate between 3rd party and scum, like you did to Toni here, what behavioral traits do you think that 3rd party will display that regular scum will not/will display differently or just what does one side do/does not do that the other side doesn't? As your points stand now, I can get that you SR Toni, but I don't understand how you managed to arrive at the specific conclusion that he is third party. |
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Post by Bomb Moss on May 30, 2018 12:05:27 GMT
motogp do not edit your posts, do an EBWOP (quote your post and fix it) to make changes.
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