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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 3, 2018 23:30:30 GMT
stopping the quirky misspellings to lay down some facts:
if fenrir is town claiming there is exactly what he should have done, if you're going to push it as scummy eli5 why and also what scum role gains to claim tourist ???
to clarify i dont think the wagon is scum motivated particularly but like I Don't Agree at the moment You do realize him claiming tourist miller means that he's covered against two potential investigative roles right? I agree that negs should be claiming day one but the fact that we got an either/or is p scummy
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Post by gigabytetroubadour on Jul 4, 2018 0:28:06 GMT
scum claim miller early for towncred of having a role out early, not to dodge investigation. the "are miller claims scummy or not?? ??" debate happens like literally every time someone claims it and it's exhausting every time, imo scum!fen knows this and dodges it entirely by just playing townie if he doesn't want to be investigated. esp claiming a double miller is like ?? ?? ?? wyd
at least the good thing about this Debate is that it sometimes gets shit rolling so?? ??
it's basically a neon sign saying "read me by play" so until theres a good mechanical reason to think a Super Miller is garbage claim i'd rather have fen do something other than make a Big Claim before voting him for nonrvs reasons
anyway odm needs to stop DUCKING THIS SMOKE im onto you
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Post by qtball on Jul 4, 2018 0:40:53 GMT
scum claim miller early for towncred of having a role out early, not to dodge investigation. the "are miller claims scummy or not?? ??" debate happens like literally every time someone claims it and it's exhausting every time, imo scum!fen knows this and dodges it entirely by just playing townie if he doesn't want to be investigated. esp claiming a double miller is like ?? ?? ?? wyd
at least the good thing about this Debate is that it sometimes gets shit rolling so?? ??
it's basically a neon sign saying "read me by play" so until theres a good mechanical reason to think a Super Miller is garbage claim i'd rather have fen do something other than make a Big Claim before voting him for nonrvs reasons
anyway odm needs to stop DUCKING THIS SMOKE im onto you While this is true, the fact that you're going to such extent to defend blatant RVS is quite fishy
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Post by gigabytetroubadour on Jul 4, 2018 0:44:14 GMT
see thats why i said nothing at first but this v
My team of scientists has deciphered Fenrir's post. I find his claim suspicious.
looks like it's Serious For RVS so ofc i'm going to call it into question when my viewpoint apparently isnt aligning with others. if you disagreed with like the only actual stance in thread - even if it's weak - what else would you do? just let it go by...?
not rhetorical btw
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Post by justinsmom on Jul 4, 2018 0:46:18 GMT
confirming the role was sent my bad boys
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Post by gigabytetroubadour on Jul 4, 2018 0:54:08 GMT
scum claim miller early for towncred of having a role out early, not to dodge investigation. the "are miller claims scummy or not?? ??" debate happens like literally every time someone claims it and it's exhausting every time, imo scum!fen knows this and dodges it entirely by just playing townie if he doesn't want to be investigated. esp claiming a double miller is like ?? ?? ?? wyd
at least the good thing about this Debate is that it sometimes gets shit rolling so?? ??
it's basically a neon sign saying "read me by play" so until theres a good mechanical reason to think a Super Miller is garbage claim i'd rather have fen do something other than make a Big Claim before voting him for nonrvs reasons
anyway odm needs to stop DUCKING THIS SMOKE im onto you <iframe width="2.5" height="2.1600000000000037" style="position: absolute; width: 2.5px; height: 2.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 409px; top: 220px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_34326414" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="2.5" height="2.1600000000000037" style="position: absolute; width: 2.5px; height: 2.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 482px; top: 220px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_30582879" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="2.5" height="2.1600000000000037" style="position: absolute; width: 2.5px; height: 2.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 409px; top: 275px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_44467479" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="2.5" height="2.1600000000000037" style="position: absolute; width: 2.5px; height: 2.16px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 482px; top: 275px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_78831415" scrolling="no"></iframe> While this is true, the fact that you're going to such extent to defend blatant RVS is quite fishy went back for a second and realized you might mean fen's claim is rvs/fake so if thats the case then lol @ everything i said but my point still holds
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Post by gigabytetroubadour on Jul 4, 2018 0:54:36 GMT
wow! this site has some very well written code!
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Post by gigabytetroubadour on Jul 4, 2018 1:02:19 GMT
ok sorry for triple posting but since it's web development related and thus vaguely connected to theme
what the FUCK were the devs thinking why are the?? ? posts and threads TABLES? ?? and i dont even know why there's iframes involved but i wont question it until i know what theyre for exactly
we been knew that proboards is bad but wHAT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 4, 2018 1:10:44 GMT
ok sorry for triple posting but since it's web development related and thus vaguely connected to theme
what the FUCK were the devs thinking why are the?? ? posts and threads TABLES? ?? and i dont even know why there's iframes involved but i wont question it until i know what theyre for exactly
we been knew that proboards is bad but wHAT yeah it's a struggle out here
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Post by qtball on Jul 4, 2018 1:40:43 GMT
anyone else want to shift to gb
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Post by gigabytetroubadour on Jul 4, 2018 2:37:11 GMT
lynch tbowl
how about instead of sidestepping any actual engagement with me you just go for it
literally none of the questions ive asked are stupid or otherwise undeserving of being answered lol - you're calling me suspicious and asking for people to bw me while you're saying you're making an rvs vote but go off i guess 💀💀
ftf leantown, fen null-but-should-be-left-until-massclaim-unless-hes-scummy, everyone else needs ai content
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 4, 2018 3:27:35 GMT
Thunder called his initial vote "blatant RVS," which I can buy if only because I know Thunder to be a capable enough player to recognize that a Tourist claim=/=scum. Despite this, qtball, I disagree with your thoughts on gb’s reaction. I’ll put it this way: if I was someone who had never played a game with you and I saw you vote someone for claiming Tourist, my first reaction wouldn’t be to assume it was RVS either. ForgotToFlush ‘tisn’t even an either/or u.u, I’m both Tourist/Miller. Since you find my claim suspicious though, what motive do you think I have as scum to open with that kind of claim (considering the amount of undue attention it’d draw)? I’m not fond of Scorrching/OM’s pop-in votes. Sceptorus I’m not as familiar with them and so I’m not sure if it’s normal for them to just pop in with a RVS vote and leave, and I can recall times Toni’s kind of just waited for Day 1 to play out for a while before giving his thoughts on everything. And idek if justinsmom actually noticed that the game started before he confirmedScorrching and OM I would definitely expect to give their two cents on my claim, OM especially given that he quoted the specific post and didn’t really acknowledge anything I was saying in it. I could make a wall about me overthinking that single post and comparing it to OM’s entrance/response to similar situations (Classic comes to mind) but a lot of it also boils down to the fact that I think a Tourist/Miller claim is an easy place for scum to put their vote early on (since such claims usually get some suspicion), and OM’s vote comes across as this kind of thing.
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 4, 2018 3:54:13 GMT
Oh gg me forgot to actually vote
Unvote: ForgotToFlush Vote: OM Room
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jul 4, 2018 10:13:22 GMT
The site I host my images on are not alignment indicative, I wrote the role PMs over the course of 2 days. Do not spec into that.
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 4, 2018 12:25:03 GMT
TL;DR: 'Sup, tbh gorillas are humans but they are more gorilla-ish than humans So my timezone's dumb and I am a fat sloth who sleeps 25x7 so I'll probably only be online once or twice, and I'll post when I'm online, and by that I mean I'll SPAM post, or I'll try at least @gigabytetrobadour gigabytetrobadour (this link is for ISO i used because i first quoted and then realised i basically quoted x% where x > 70 (minimum) of their posts) so here's their ISO Moving on to a bit of seriousness, gigabyte is there any particular reason why you're into flavour massclaiming? Sure, I don't see anything wrong with it, neither am I forcing an answer out of you for this since an answer could be "b/c i find it cool lol" too, but I'm just interested in your train of thought so that I don't get you wrong in the future. As for your opinion on Fenrir, +1 on fenrir, I don't see anything seriously bad with his neg claim, and if anything I know and Fenrir himself knows that he is good enough to last even without a fakeclaim, so well pretty much deduced by player meta, how much I dislike it. Though unlike him, I'm not completely anti-discussion about this claim, knowing that if there's one thing we had to give a day one an actual start then this was it, no matter how I see it. My team of scientists has deciphered Fenrir's post. I find his claim suspicious. looks like it's Serious For RVS so ofc i'm going to call it into question when my viewpoint apparently isnt aligning with others. if you disagreed with like the only actual stance in thread - even if it's weak - what else would you do? just let it go by...?
Wanted to quote this because I honestly wanted to ask you - NAI if you take it - but why do you think this is some super serious suspicion even though he hasn't given a single reason whatsoever, whilst he has also used 'my team of scientists' and he's basically saying the same thing he said before, when he lynched Fenrir?
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Post by motogp on Jul 4, 2018 12:32:11 GMT
in as sub
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 4, 2018 12:46:43 GMT
stopping the quirky misspellings to lay down some facts:
if fenrir is town claiming there is exactly what he should have done, if you're going to push it as scummy eli5 why and also what scum role gains to claim tourist
to clarify i dont think the wagon is scum motivated particularly but like I Don't Agree at the moment You do realize him claiming tourist miller means that he's covered against two potential investigative roles right? I agree that negs should be claiming day one but the fact that we got an either/or is p scummyScratch my last point on gigabyte in my last post and wait what I thought the default font used is Arial wait what's the default font then?Anyways, lolicon-chan is there specific reason why you dropped your conversation with giga about Fenrir's claim? I'm just interested, did you accept that "eh it's not that scummy" or "no point in arguing here" or "this isn't going anywhere"? I'm just asking this out of curiosity, yet again, because I find this weiiiird Fenrir Aesir's Post #48880 Thunder called his initial vote "blatant RVS," which I can buy if only because I know Thunder to be a capable enough player to recognize that a Tourist claim=/=scum. Despite this, qtball , I disagree with your thoughts on gb’s reaction. I’ll put it this way: if I was someone who had never played a game with you and I saw you vote someone for claiming Tourist, my first reaction wouldn’t be to assume it was RVS either. ForgotToFlush ‘tisn’t even an either/or u.u, I’m both Tourist/Miller. Since you find my claim suspicious though, what motive do you think I have as scum to open with that kind of claim (considering the amount of undue attention it’d draw)? I’m not fond of Scorrching/OM’s pop-in votes. Sceptorus I’m not as familiar with them and so I’m not sure if it’s normal for them to just pop in with a RVS vote and leave, and I can recall times Toni’s kind of just waited for Day 1 to play out for a while before giving his thoughts on everything. And idek if justinsmom actually noticed that the game started before he confirmedScorrching and OM I would definitely expect to give their two cents on my claim, OM especially given that he quoted the specific post and didn’t really acknowledge anything I was saying in it. I could make a wall about me overthinking that single post and comparing it to OM’s entrance/response to similar situations (Classic comes to mind) but a lot of it also boils down to the fact that I think a Tourist/Miller claim is an easy place for scum to put their vote early on (since such claims usually get some suspicion), and OM’s vote comes across as this kind of thing. Fenrir alright I get from where you're coming and I bet my money 100% that what you just said is in fact the truth, but I mean if you look it from Thunder's PoV and actually look at it, the fact that he used more of a sarcastic or humorous tone in his post "sure i'm VT" I can't bring myself to take it as a legitimate, actual argument or a point made against your claim, sure all giga's points are on-point, logically correct but yet again he's applying too much emotion in it, really making me assume that it's either a trigger (as in "holy im done with this ; can you people not discuss about this?") or that he's scummy, which I really don't want to assume is the case. TL;DR - Thunder has a point to an extent, giga did put tons of emotions in it and I can't be too big of a fan of such, but you've got your point. So what's the point of mentioning this? I want to know, do you agree with my given points or do you think giga's reaction wasn't an overreaction at all? Aaand just one more thing, did you purposely didn't mention Toni's entrance in there (i presume b/c you didn't have previous games' meta, unlike OM's?) or was it a mistake and you didn't intend to miss his post?
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 4, 2018 12:49:08 GMT
erm I thought I did press the 'create post' button Gorillas are mainly herbivores. They spend most of their day foraging for bamboo, fruit and leafy plants, though western lowlands also eat small insects. Adult gorillas can eat up to 30kg of food each day. You do realize him claiming tourist miller means that he's covered against two potential investigative roles right? I agree that negs should be claiming day one but the fact that we got an either/or is p scummyYeah this, has basically negated my last point on giga. I didn't read this before, just a 'heads up'. cough scorrch cough.
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 4, 2018 12:50:37 GMT
wait. I did post it with the post about Fenrir. And I had a hecking fact about gorilla as my 1000th post.
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Post by Crespo on Jul 4, 2018 15:54:19 GMT
Holy shit... I'm getting puppy tactician vibes.
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 4, 2018 16:39:34 GMT
Champ1604 I'm not especially "anti-discussion" about my claim (in fact someone being both Tourist/Miller is an uncommon thing so I think being able to observe attitudes to it'd be helpful). Part of the issue I have w/ Scorrch/OM is actually the fact that they didn't comment on it when both of them have a history of being pretty quick to respond to things like that as town. Tfw "lolicon-chan" I don't think gb's reaction was an overreaction. What I think's going on is along the lines of: -Thunder made his initial RVS post as a joke. -gb took the joke as serious and reacted accordingly. -Thunder is in a mindset of "Wtf it was OBVIOUSLY a joke" and hasn't realized that it could be taken seriously. My comment on Toni's tendency to wait for a while before giving his thoughts was my comment on his entrance; I went back to check some but I can't recall a recent scumgame of Toni's (aside from OC), so I only have town games of his to compare it to.
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 4, 2018 16:40:14 GMT
Holy shit... I'm getting puppy tactician vibes.
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Post by Schrodinger on Jul 4, 2018 17:01:47 GMT
The fenrir claim isnt that bad now that hes saying its both tourist AND miller. And you cant really say that a tourist/miller claim is scum. Its just a neg whos claimimg, and i dont really feel that we can lynch someone for the SOLE reason of them claiming a neck. That being said, i dont really like how fenrir himself said that he wouldnt put attention onto himself, its like he claimed miller/tourist just so he can say that AND be safeguarded from cop. So a win-win situation for him. So taking both the sides of the argument, i would just like to read him further and abstain for now.
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Post by Crespo on Jul 4, 2018 18:32:36 GMT
My comment on Toni's tendency to wait for a while before giving his thoughts was my comment on his entrance; I went back to check some but I can't recall a recent scumgame of Toni's (aside from OC), so I only have town games of his to compare it to. Look at Knight-Errant for an example.
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Post by Crespo on Jul 4, 2018 18:46:13 GMT
lynch tbowl
how about instead of sidestepping any actual engagement with me you just go for it
literally none of the questions ive asked are stupid or otherwise undeserving of being answered lol - you're calling me suspicious and asking for people to bw me while you're saying you're making an rvs vote but go off i guess 💀💀
ftf leantown, fen null-but-should-be-left-until-massclaim-unless-hes-scummy, everyone else needs ai content
This post seems puppy-like Holy shit... I'm getting puppy tactician vibes.
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