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Post by Schrodinger on Jul 5, 2018 18:50:22 GMT
Also moto is town because he wagonned and scum avoids that for sure. But could be wifom too.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 5, 2018 19:43:30 GMT
Also moto is town because he wagonned and scum avoids that for sure. But could be wifom too. |
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Post by motogp on Jul 5, 2018 21:52:16 GMT
Also moto is town because he wagonned and scum avoids that for sure. But could be wifom too. I dont wagon (I posted resoning) and I got subbed in 12 hours ago |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 5, 2018 22:36:20 GMT
Also moto is town because he wagonned and scum avoids that for sure. But could be wifom too. I dont wagon (I posted resoning) and I got subbed in 12 hours ago
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Post by Schrodinger on Jul 6, 2018 1:35:04 GMT
Theres some pmeta in there too. Whenever hes scummy hes town and whenever hes not scummy hes scum. So i used that.
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 6, 2018 2:16:45 GMT
Post #48889Erm.. there's a misunderstanding. I wasn't talking about you when I was going on about ""anti-discussion"" about your claim, I was talking about gigabyte, and in all honestly I'll actually laugh if you argue that he didn't give the vibes of such. And now that you've mentioned this too, what do you think of gb being so "no-no" towards your discussion? I'm surprised that you didn't mention it yourself, if anything. Perhaps you did, and I missed it, which won't be too surprising. And in all honesty, I can't bring myself to come and agree with your summary of your situation, especially the way you've made TBz going "its OBVIOUSLY a joke", so I'm dropping it with us differently perceiving the same situation. I can't see the fact that TBz literally went on and showed heavy emotive language in his post, while ironically gb quite clearly did. Also, Scorrching having a game-breaking superb first post? I thought he always made the game humorous, which not from a tryharding player's but as an average person's perspective, I ironically find humorous and weirdly enjoyable. It lightens me and helps me focus on the game, as weird as it is. Ah. Cough cough gb's femaleTbh I wouldn't describe gb's attitude towards it as anti-discussion either. She didn't agree with the people scumreading/voting me because of my claim, but that's far from trying to shut down discussion about it. Like she even said: "at least the good thing about this Debate is that it sometimes gets shit rolling so?? ??" and voted Thunder for "sidestepping any actual engagement."
On the subject of Thunder then, you think he was serious in his initial RVS vote then? Do you think Thunder's the kind of player who would legitimately see a Tourist claim and assume it's scum, especially when Tourist is probably the most common role people put in their CSes on the server?
Scorrching doesn't need to have a "game-breaking superb first post" but what stood out to me was that he came in and didn't acknowledge the claim when normally I'd expect him to have some sort of opinion on it. As I'm typing this I'm realizing though that he's also pretty quick to give his thoughts on these things as scum (and in fact frequently restricts himself to discussing the setup in those cases), so the lack of it's actually more something that's unusual for him in general rather than anything AI.
Also can't say that I agree with you on Sceptorus's post, not only because I think there was other effort to gamesolve before he made it. The post itself doesn't actually do anything meaningful; he just pops in, parrots both sides of the debate, and decides to "abstain for now" without acknowledging/giving a read on anyone else.
The backoff from OM is v interesting. Whose mindset were you referring to as townie OM~! ? If it was mine (which I think it was) where does that put the rest of your reads/why'd you keep your vote there?
First of all,Fenrir's claim seems ridiculous seeing its such an easy way to get away from every tracker and cop. Secondly,outside of that,I don't think rolespec is feasible judging by my rolepm font,since im assuming that everyone's font is the same way. Thirdly,and most importantly,Fenrir hasn't provided any evidence to convince anyone that my assumptions (which should be everyone's assumptions) aren't true.Therefore,I am going to lynch them. lynch fenrirHonestly FTF,I don't understand what om room is doing either,but I think fenrir's problem is of greater importance. Regardless of anything they are a miller aka neg util,and consequently a good day 1 lynch even if they aren't scum which I doubt it.
The second part of this is super pockety towards FtF and I wouldn't be surprised to see a moto/OM scumteam, while the last sentence is really bad reasoning to try and cling to the wagon. He's also showing no desire to figure out OM's alignment despite not "understanding what OM Room is doing" which sets off another red flag.
I'd be down for a shift to moto, but idk what the current votecount looks like and don't want to risk just getting myself lynched by switching there.
So here gb is just defending fenrir bevause he wouldnt have claimed tourist/miller if he was scum. Bad. unvote
Vote gb
Okay, now why is it bad that gb is defending me for that?
Page 5 so far is a massive question mark. Sceptorus is continuing his trend of hedging and then moto's response is "I don't wagon" when you can straight up look at the votes and see he did. Pushes me more in favor of a moto vote given how excessively defensive that is. And then Sceptorus has:
Theres some pmeta in there too. Whenever hes scummy hes town and whenever hes not scummy hes scum. So i used that.
Which is extremely
ForgotToFlush I think I get the motivation behind the Toni FoS but tell us for the history books.
Where I'm at overall looks something like
gb
FtF
Thunder
Scorrching
Toni
justinsmom (have there been any posts from here?)
Champ
Sceptorus
OM
moto
And so I need to sort out this null section. I don't have Champ as higher because I'm getting potential agenda vibes from her posts with her rationale behind calling Sceptorus town, the OM vote (Champ's disagreeing with a lot of my reasoning but conveniently agrees with my reasoning on voting OM) and attitudes towards Thunder/gb.
There's ~10 hours to deadline I think; would very much prefer a shift to moto but let me figure out if I'm just going to cause my own lynch by trying to do that right now. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 6, 2018 2:21:02 GMT
justinsmom (1): WholeLottaGangShit
Fenrir (4): og villain , ForgotToFlush, ThunderBALLZ, motogp
og villain (3): Toni XY , Fenrir, Champ1604
ForgotToFlush (1): Z◕rquax
Tbowl (1): @gigabytetrobadour
gigabytetrobadour (1): Sceptorus
I have faith in our ability to pull this off.
Unvote: OM Room
Vote: motogp
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 2:42:42 GMT
sorting out the food situation and then I'm gonna solve this bitch
Fenrir pls tell me you'll be hear all night I need someone to babysit the thread with me
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Post by qtball on Jul 6, 2018 2:43:45 GMT
when Fenrir gives a better vote count than the actual host (ily xbad ❤)
I will respond to all that has happened when I have concrete thoughts and stable time (likely tomorrow morning)
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Post by qtball on Jul 6, 2018 2:45:56 GMT
For now though, I'm shifting my lynch not on the basis that I think Fenrir is town, but because there are simply scummier people out there
aka
lynch Sceptorus cya
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Post by qtball on Jul 6, 2018 2:48:40 GMT
The fenrir claim isnt that bad now that hes saying its both tourist AND miller. And you cant really say that a tourist/miller claim is scum. Its just a neg whos claimimg, and i dont really feel that we can lynch someone for the SOLE reason of them claiming a neck. That being said, i dont really like how fenrir himself said that he wouldnt put attention onto himself, its like he claimed miller/tourist just so he can say that AND be safeguarded from cop. So a win-win situation for him. So taking both the sides of the argument, i would just like to read him further and abstain for now. This post was basically a really roundabout way of trying to excuse for doing absolutely nothing. tldr is found in the last sentence. |
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 6, 2018 3:20:43 GMT
sorting out the food situation and then I'm gonna solve this bitch
Fenrir pls tell me you'll be hear all night I need someone to babysit the thread with me
I'll be in and out for the night, but I have to go to sleep at some point b/c I intend to go into work slightly early again. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:20:17 GMT
sorting out the food situation and then I'm gonna solve this bitch
Fenrir pls tell me you'll be hear all night I need someone to babysit the thread with me
I'll be in and out for the night, but I have to go to sleep at some point b/c I intend to go into work slightly early again. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:23:05 GMT
Okay so from memory, out of all the people that posted I only TR Megan. I think I got pocketed by the gorilla facts. This is not a good foundation..
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:23:35 GMT
However comma if I do want to shift there are distinct options.....
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:26:15 GMT
Question 1: Do I think Fen and GBT is a v/v interaction?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:26:44 GMT
Question 2: Is the sudden BW on Fen town or scum motivated?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:28:43 GMT
Question 3: Is the BW on OM town motivated or scum motivated?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:29:14 GMT
Question 4: Are the low posters are a factor here?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:31:15 GMT
Question 1: Do I think Fen and GBT is a v/v interaction? |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:32:52 GMT
Question 2: Is the sudden BW on Fen town or scum motivated?
Looked advantageous
Minus points for OM
the continued push from TBZ on GBT is also a bad look
Howevererrrrrrrr TBZ and OM are just naturally terrible mafia players and they could be exhibiting zero self awareness. Both of them shifting off due to pushback tho? |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:33:24 GMT
Question 2: Is the sudden BW on Fen town or scum motivated?
Looked advantageous
Minus points for OM
the continued push from TBZ on GBT is also a bad look
Howevererrrrrrrr TBZ and OM are just naturally terrible mafia players and they could be exhibiting zero self awareness. Both of them shifting off due to pushback tho? |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:35:50 GMT
First of all,Fenrir's claim seems ridiculous seeing its such an easy way to get away from every tracker and cop. Secondly,outside of that,I don't think rolespec is feasible judging by my rolepm font,since im assuming that everyone's font is the same way. Thirdly,and most importantly,Fenrir hasn't provided any evidence to convince anyone that my assumptions (which should be everyone's assumptions) aren't true.Therefore,I am going to lynch them. lynch fenrirHonestly FTF,I don't understand what om room is doing either,but I think fenrir's problem is of greater importance. Regardless of anything they are a miller aka neg util,and consequently a good day 1 lynch even if they aren't scum which I doubt it.
DIRECT APPEAL IN ATTEMPT TO POCKET
HELP MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS STUCK |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:36:44 GMT
Question 3: Is the BW on OM town motivated or scum motivated?
Meggo
We saw Moto's diversion attempt as well which included a direct appeal to me when I showed hesitance
BW is town motivated |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 6, 2018 4:37:20 GMT
Therefore colon
Unvote Fenrir, Vote OM Room
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