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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 3:16:26 GMT
I feel like no one has talked about this but with all the talk flying around regarding people being pissed or people reacting to shit and whatnot is it isn't set in stone which emotions point to which alignments. I think Ayia's frustrations then were Town!frustrations, in that they were Town and feeling like the thread was being oppressed by scum, scum doesn't really get frustrated there given how the pushes were weak to say the least. I know I last said this when I was scum, but I still stand by that nothing is obvious and you shouldn't expect people to follow you and understand your reads just by you claiming it's obvious and/or being loud about it (aimed to TBZ and OM Room, but applies to everyone.) MM2 is probably Town here, progressions read naturally, especially with knowledge of his posting style from the previous game (admittedly he wasn't Town but his goals aligned with that of the Town anyways so irrelevant point). I would follow through with TBZ/OM/Spiderz, and I want more from Champ/Daisocks. I like most of this post too
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 3:18:29 GMT
Just came online for 1.5 minutes to say that I'll definitely post more tomorrow (aka in ~7-8 hours for me), I came back home really late and am seriously tired, just a heads up that you can expect a reply Meggo ur good at a lot of things but estimates don't seem to be one of them
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 3:20:10 GMT
This came completely out of blue. Mind if I ask why you would think this? The red is what i think is odd. I haven't seen much of why you think Spiderz is very scummy, yet you lynch them over OM, who you say has nothing townie about him. This whole progression irks me [note that these posts are just an hour apart, and Spiderz has said nothing within that hour.]I request that you learn to read things in context. I spent that hour getting home from school, the first post was a vanity phonepost on the bus when I was responding to the points FtF made about me. I came home and read through the thread and made the second post. I don't appreciate you trying to discredit me by taking things out of context. No he most definitely has a point here. Your progression on Spiderz is nonsensical.
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jul 13, 2018 6:28:34 GMT
Another day, another lynch countLynchcount 1.32 Dasocks~* ( qtball, MechaMew2) 2 spiderz ( Champ1604, Bomb Moss) 2 qtball ( spiderz, ayia) 1 ayia ( OM~!) If the deadline was right now, Dasocks~ would be lynched. If there are any mistakes, notify me immediately. You have around 0.5 days left until deadline. Bomb Moss, I believe you didn't unlynch OM~! when lynching spiderz. I have done this for you. If this was an unintended effect, fix it. ayia, I believe I simply failed to remove the lynch from qtball, as I even had plur on Dasocks~. If I missed a lynch, please just redo it.
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jul 13, 2018 7:34:01 GMT
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 8:47:29 GMT
if this is player meta sure. I don't feel like being so loud and garish, and yesterday's ordeal tired me of this game anyway. I'm just here to try and help at this point but you're still trying to (question Mark) convince me I'm scum? I honestly don't know why you're questioning me there is content to read you either lynch me or don't If they think you're scum, post their reasons as to why you're scum, there's nothing wrong with that
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 8:51:49 GMT
qtball 'Sup tbz, there are plenty of things in your side which i like while more of the things that i dislike, as much as i hate saying so.I mean in all honesty, quite a lot of times flush's points are on-point and in-fact contain logical argument, and you shake it off with a heavily emotive sentence and no specific reply, which honestly I can't convince myself to even consider that a town or at least a vanilla town will do..... Summary: Too much emotive language / AtE in literally, and not actually exaggerating and I mean seriously. TBz, I don't SR you, no, but I don't like how this went. I can't put you in my town truck either, sorry. Need more explanation here. You've left out quite a few steps in travelling from your explanation to your conclusion. Calling it a thinly veiled defense attempt for now. The issue with this is that I do not surefire know what TBZ's alignment is, I'm just confident in him being scum. So by raw interactions alone this puts you below TBZ. Fortunately for you we're not working solely off of interactions. Still not a good look regardless. Nah jona you're wrong here for once, for me both of the red lines practically mean the same thing - that I don't think he's scum, but not worthy of being in the same town pool as snaquaza. He's a negative utility town, I don't mind getting rid of that. The only difference between the first line and the last one is that the first one is less rude, and I didn't want to make it rude because if I did then TBz would've probably just shrugged it off, but I wanted him to read it so that he can genuinely stop being annoying in those plays of his.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 8:56:17 GMT
Nah jona you're wrong here for once, for me both of the red lines practically mean the same thing - that I don't think he's scum, but not worthy of being in the same town pool as snaquaza. He's a negative utility town, I don't mind getting rid of that. The only difference between the first line and the last one is that the first one is less rude, and I didn't want to make it rude because if I did then TBz would've probably just shrugged it off, but I wanted him to read it so that he can genuinely stop being annoying in those plays of his. I know that the highlighted lines practically mean the same thing. The issue is that your explanation of how you reached those lines is unsatisfactory. By the things indicated in those posts you should be scum reading TBZ. The TR on him is vapid.
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 8:57:03 GMT
TBZ you push people very similarly to how FTF is pushing you now though. yeah it's very meta-ful but then there's no content to read off so it's the best I can do. What makes you TR TBZ? okay here's the thing his posts are completely wolfy and a wolf knows better to stay in sheep's clothes, but this guy doesn't give a &$*% about staying in sheep's clothes, so honestly that really makes me think that this person can't be wolf, he would at least try but all he's doing is creating nuisance, sorry tbz if i offend you
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 8:57:58 GMT
Nah jona you're wrong here for once, for me both of the red lines practically mean the same thing - that I don't think he's scum, but not worthy of being in the same town pool as snaquaza. He's a negative utility town, I don't mind getting rid of that. The only difference between the first line and the last one is that the first one is less rude, and I didn't want to make it rude because if I did then TBz would've probably just shrugged it off, but I wanted him to read it so that he can genuinely stop being annoying in those plays of his. I know that the highlighted lines practically mean the same thing. The issue is that your explanation of how you reached those lines is unsatisfactory. By the things indicated in those posts you should be scum reading TBZ. The TR on him is vapid. i'm a clairvoyant, aren't i
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 8:58:02 GMT
I know that the highlighted lines practically mean the same thing. The issue is that your explanation of how you reached those lines is unsatisfactory. By the things indicated in those posts you should be scum reading TBZ. The TR on him is vapid. Synonyms include: feeble, vacuous
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 8:58:53 GMT
I know that the highlighted lines practically mean the same thing. The issue is that your explanation of how you reached those lines is unsatisfactory. By the things indicated in those posts you should be scum reading TBZ. The TR on him is vapid. i'm a clairvoyant, aren't i don't get sassy with me woman I'll take those two points back
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 9:00:04 GMT
I like the fact that your posts has your reads, but what I honestly don't like about it is that 2/4 is based off playermeta. Sure well and all, but sometimes playermeta isn't that constructive. As for the thing about me, you did misunderstand, but can't blame you since my lines weren't completely unambiguous. I TR ThunderBallz not but in more of a 'he's policyable', and not an actual TR, if you get what I mean. And I seriously don't like doing this As for the question about willpower, it just takes me doing :knife:. That's all, seriously. And if you wanna make him go all caps just say: ForgotToFlush You gave me 2 more points than I did I don't get what you mean please elaborate okay the previous post seems to answer tons of questions holy i thought flush made it seem obvious enough he's not trying to prevent us from wolfsmelling, neither is he contributing in wolfhunting he's a policy lynch outta here, that's literally it
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 9:03:25 GMT
1) yes, people were asking me why I claimed VT so i was responding to them 2) yeah i was kinda pissed off hense the pissed off tone. the fact that something that clearly wasn't supposed to be taken seriously was the cause of not only a semi-bash on my playing but also a dumb lynch was slightly annoying 3) did you even read the post RIGHT AFTER that one? it was literally a wall all about the tbz / flush argument. rereading that i guess i didn't state reads, but still if you want reads: flush is town, and there's one or two scum in tbz / dasocks. probably one, and i'm leaning towards dasocks. 1) names needed, i wanted to do co-relation of you and someone and wanted a name, but i no longer remember my train of thought BUT a name will be still appreciated 2) o okay, heads up dont let emotions get in your way of scumhunting 3) no, in all honesty no i did not
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 9:04:31 GMT
TBZ you push people very similarly to how FTF is pushing you now though. yeah it's very meta-ful but then there's no content to read off so it's the best I can do. What makes you TR TBZ? okay here's the thing his posts are completely wolfy and a wolf knows better to stay in sheep's clothes, but this guy doesn't give a &$*% about staying in sheep's clothes, so honestly that really makes me think that this person can't be wolf, he would at least try but all he's doing is creating nuisance, sorry tbz if i offend you Too Wolfy to be a wolf? I remember you talking about this before
Believe me Fenrir, "too scummy to be scum" only comes with regrets. Scum will use bad logic to lynch people all because they want to not gamesolve for town so that town is unable to come up with proper discussion to lynch them. Upvotes to the fact that VeteranBrionne's play isn't something that shines bright. hmm?
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 9:06:59 GMT
Just quoting this so I have a reference as I write this post. I thought about this for a bit and right now I think it would be best to lynch Tbowl an info lynch. Also @snaquaza you have Tbowl lynching himself? I think thats supposed to be socks Assuming Spiderz and Dasocks are on Tbowl, there are three possibilities with his lynch. a) he's chosen. in that case, dasocks is definitely scum, with spiderz also being a heavy possibility. b) he's normal vt. this is the only case in which dasocks and tbowl would both be vts. in this case i would suggest om and one of champ / spiderz / dasocks still. if he's normal vt, I think that I'm likely chosen. c) he's scum. in this case, i could see om / champ as a partner. In any case, a tbowl lynch will severely lessen the scumpool and gets rid of a neg util Unlynch OMLynch Tballzjust for the record im not done scumreading om tbowl lynch won't give us any info except flush, if 90% town srs them then whose info we gonna get? need an explanation ayia also sorry im not the bright one, how does him being chosen makes someone else scum? and him being vt makes you chosen? i'm assuming it somehow corelates with veto, i just want to know your train of thought
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 9:07:37 GMT
if this is player meta sure. I don't feel like being so loud and garish, and yesterday's ordeal tired me of this game anyway. I'm just here to try and help at this point but you're still trying to (question Mark) convince me I'm scum? I honestly don't know why you're questioning me there is content to read you either lynch me or don't If they think you're scum, post their reasons as to why you're scum, there's nothing wrong with that NAI post ew
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 9:10:26 GMT
okay here's the thing his posts are completely wolfy and a wolf knows better to stay in sheep's clothes, but this guy doesn't give a &$*% about staying in sheep's clothes, so honestly that really makes me think that this person can't be wolf, he would at least try but all he's doing is creating nuisance, sorry tbz if i offend you Too Wolfy to be a wolf? I remember you talking about this before
Believe me Fenrir, "too scummy to be scum" only comes with regrets. Scum will use bad logic to lynch people all because they want to not gamesolve for town so that town is unable to come up with proper discussion to lynch them. Upvotes to the fact that VeteranBrionne's play isn't something that shines bright. hmm?how much did you dig for it holy $#!* that's a log you're pulling from an year, and i don't remember enough about that game to give a contrast bw vetbrio and tbz, but my point still stays and won't change fr tho flush you're digging this hole quite deep here and i mean quite literally, you sr tbz that much?
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 9:11:52 GMT
If they think you're scum, post their reasons as to why you're scum, there's nothing wrong with that NAI post ew if you would let me ask him questions and hoping that he actually quotes it and replies
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 9:11:59 GMT
tbowl lynch won't give us any info except flush, if 90% town srs them then whose info we gonna get? need an explanation ayia TBZ red flip
Soft clears: Me, Daisocks, Ayia
Removes doubt from: MM2, Xnad
Implicates: You, OM, Spiderz
Doesn't take voting patterns in to effect so this is mostly hypothetical, but you see the point
TBZ green flipping also says a lot once I can dig into voting patterns TBZ flip in general actually says the least about me. I'm sure that someone would call it a bus if he red flips, after what I did to Moto in Frenzy
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 9:13:42 GMT
if you would let me ask him questions and hoping that he actually quotes it and replies First of all Sona's Sasswal, I've been waiting 19 hours for you to post so don't try and slow me down now
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 9:14:20 GMT
I feel like no one has talked about this but with all the talk flying around regarding people being pissed or people reacting to shit and whatnot is it isn't set in stone which emotions point to which alignments. I think Ayia's frustrations then were Town!frustrations, in that they were Town and feeling like the thread was being oppressed by scum, scum doesn't really get frustrated there given how the pushes were weak to say the least. I know I last said this when I was scum, but I still stand by that nothing is obvious and you shouldn't expect people to follow you and understand your reads just by you claiming it's obvious and/or being loud about it (aimed to TBZ and OM Room, but applies to everyone.) MM2 is probably Town here, progressions read naturally, especially with knowledge of his posting style from the previous game (admittedly he wasn't Town but his goals aligned with that of the Town anyways so irrelevant point). I would follow through with TBZ/OM/Spiderz, and I want more from Champ/Daisocks. given the first point, what do you think of tbz' frustrations? agree with the rest of the post
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 13, 2018 9:17:23 GMT
[how much did you dig for it holy $#!* that's a log you're pulling from an year, and i don't remember enough about that game to give a contrast bw vetbrio and tbz, but my point still stays and won't change fr tho flush you're digging this hole quite deep here and i mean quite literally, you sr tbz that much? idt me pulling that quote is related to the Tbz SR but I do SR him a LOT The quote just says a bit about your defense of him. If anything it's going into the playermeta library I don't use
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 9:22:29 GMT
tbowl lynch won't give us any info except flush, if 90% town srs them then whose info we gonna get? need an explanation ayia TBZ red flip
Soft clears: Me, Daisocks, Ayia
Removes doubt from: MM2, Xnad
Implicates: You, OM, Spiderz
Doesn't take voting patterns in to effect so this is mostly hypothetical, but you see the point
TBZ green flipping also says a lot once I can dig into voting patterns TBZ flip in general actually says the least about me. I'm sure that someone would call it a bus if he red flips, after what I did to Moto in Frenzy this table is genuinely not something great an example like jona flips red soft clears: tbz removes doubt from: me, om null: daisocks, mm2 puts shade on: xnad red alert: spiderz, ayia
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 13, 2018 9:23:31 GMT
if you would let me ask him questions and hoping that he actually quotes it and replies First of all Sona's Sasswal, I've been waiting 19 hours for you to post so don't try and slow me down nowaw bby you love me too much don't you?
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