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Post by spiderz on Jul 20, 2018 23:45:14 GMT
But there’s also a chance champ is CT aswell at this point I would say Ayia is most likely CT and honestly I’m thinking unlynch Champ, Lynch Mecha is more likely at this point if Mecha flips champ is almost certainly scum but I think MechaMew2 is scum it makes sense *cough* Technically speaking, there’s a chance anyone could be CT. What’s your point, exactly? First of, your main target switched fast there. Very interesting. Or maybe in that time you thought of a better course of action that would win you the game? Secondly, could you elaborate on how Champ is conf scum if MM2 flips town and vice versa? Thirdly, could you again elaborate on how MM2 being scum makes sense? To be honest, this all seems like some sort of desperate scum attempt at victory, in which MM2 is a VT and Champ is a CT, hence the flip-flop. All the more reason to lynch Spiderz and get their flip, tbh 1. I was responding to Ayia 2. Uh no it did not switch very fast i scum read both of them 3. POE 4. Did you read my second post of the day |
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Post by ayia on Jul 21, 2018 0:26:23 GMT
Less of dasocks though but he prob is it And you believe this even though not a single serious push has been put onto Dasocks? |
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 21, 2018 9:37:08 GMT
Just quoting this so I have a reference as I write this post. I thought about this for a bit and right now I think it would be best to lynch Tbowl an info lynch. Also @snaquaza you have Tbowl lynching himself? I think thats supposed to be socks Assuming Spiderz and Dasocks are on Tbowl, there are three possibilities with his lynch. a) he's chosen. in that case, dasocks is definitely scum, with spiderz also being a heavy possibility. b) he's normal vt. this is the only case in which dasocks and tbowl would both be vts. in this case i would suggest om and one of champ / spiderz / dasocks still. if he's normal vt, I think that I'm likely chosen. c) he's scum. in this case, i could see om / champ as a partner. In any case, a tbowl lynch will severely lessen the scumpool and gets rid of a neg util Unlynch OMLynch Tballzjust for the record im not done scumreading om I stand by this. I still do believe I'm chosen townie and scum is in that pool. However, we're in a strange situation here. We simply need to lynch a non-chosen townie and we win. For these reasons, I think Dasocks is the safest lynch today. I don't necessarily think that Dasocks is the scummiest player in this group: I think that award goes to Champ for a few reasons that I'll get into later in this post. However, I do think he's least likely to be chosen townie. For reference: 2 og villain* (ayia, MechaMew2) 2 MechaMew2 (Champ1604, og villain) 2 spiderz (XnadrojX, daisocks) Lynches from yesterday ^^ daisocks, Champ1604, ayia, spiderz, MechaMew2 current playerlist^^ In my opinion, most likely to be chosen townie in this pool is Mecha. This would imply that Champ is scum, as Dasocks had ample opportunity to shift to Mecha and BS some reason for it (he was active at the end of the day but decided to go for an og villain lynch instead). The other possibility is that Spiderz is chosen townie. This would implicate dasocks as scum. However, I find this far more unlikely due to OM's lynch of Mecha and not spiderz. A stranger possibility is that both Spiderz and Mecha are chosen, but this would make even less sense with dasocks lynching Spiderz and not OM. I really can't see Dasocks or Champ as chosen due to them not really being suspected at all. Note how OM came in D1 and bs'd a reason to lynch me. I expected more things like that (btw thats one of the reasons I believe I'm chosen). Actually, after placing my notes on paper and reviewing them, I change my mind: Champ is the safest lynch. With them being most likely scum with the most likely chosen pair and their very low likelyhood of being chosen, they're probably the smartest lynch. Lynch Champ
Now let's run flips and implications! (can i coin that? FAI? lets do it) If Champ flips scum: we win woot If Champ flips VT: we win woot If Champ flips chosen: this would be simply fascinating. however, that does do a few things for us. If Dasocks is scum, then Spiderz is chosen due to his D3 lynch. Simply put. This leaves Mecha as VT. However this wouldn't be likely as OM tried to shift to Mecha, not Spiderz? Therefore, Dasocks is most likely town if Champ flips chosen. If Mecha is scum, then Dasocks is chosen due to Mecha's D1 lynch on him. This leaves Spiderz as VT. It's possible, I guess? Mecha didn't shift off of OM even though he very well could have.
If Spiderz is scum, I literally have nothing. He hasn't done much, and his only lynch afaik was on TBZ. For these reasons, I say if Champ flips chosen, y'all better lynch Spiderz. I'll read up to get more supporting / refuting this idea (that if Champ flips chosen, then Spiderz is scum).
Anyway, I think this is pretty cut and dry. We lynch Champ. Under the small chance that they flip chosen (and it is a very small chance) we get Spiderz. GGWP
I don't feel like rereading and editting because I spent a long time on this post, so if anything is unclear ping me"In my opinion, most likely to be chosen townie in this pool is Mecha. This would imply that Champ is scum, as Dasocks had ample opportunity to shift to Mecha and BS some reason for it (he was active at the end of the day but decided to go for an og villain lynch instead)." How are you taking out odds of being chosen Ayia? I don't scumread you for this - but there's now way you can take out odds for being Chosen. Chosen people are taken out randomly out of all those who are selected to be non-chosen (which honestly were the NKs, which explains the XnadrojX kill) ; therefore making the odds of anyone between us to be equal. Uhh I'm just confused? And honestly, the only reason why OM lynched Mecha was because I was on that wagon too, and he didn't want to be lynched. And I had reasons to suspect Mecha all fairly really. Also assuming that I would be OM's partner, what's the point of him on the same lynch as me on Mecha? We can't switch the wagon Also you forgot to give any reasons for me being scummy ,_, Meh I can't come to like this post, like in all honesty you're basing everything off negative interactions, whilst scum interact with each other tons whilst not pushing them, OM did tons of such |
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 21, 2018 9:47:48 GMT
Actually wait I just saw the previous votecount again
I can't come to agree to the fact that OM Room coming on me is something which makes me scummy, if that makes sense. Like honestly, it's the opposite - om riding on the mecha wagon rather than riding on me makes absolute no logical sense bc no matter how you see it, him riding spiderz gives him more benefits (a town kill, which could even possibly be chosen, distancing from me assuming im scum)
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 21, 2018 9:50:43 GMT
Ok Ayia your reads make sense but the only thing is I think if champ flips as VT Mecha might have bussed, I say this because I think both of them went for town cred instead of trying to go for the chosen townie. The most probable reason is because the chosen townie is extremely townie and it would seem scummy for them to lynch someone townie when them thereselves aren’t very town yet for example Ayia who he tred same goes for om Regardless champ is more likely scum I just thought i should put that out there I understand the read on me I should’ve been here but I’ll be here for now and commit. What do you guys think ? hi i want to know why im more likely scum i think everyone does |
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 21, 2018 10:06:59 GMT
Champ, whenever you get on, I want these things from you. What do you think of OM's flip? Who are your scumreads and townreads? Since this is endgame I don't want a single null. Who do you think are the Chosen Townies? If anything, I'm sorta surprised of the OM flip? I wasn't expecting him to be lynched - if you were to come before the OM flip I would've, in all honesty, put you in my scumslot but yet still I didn't see believable, let alone any, reason for that lynch. Sure maybe you could've addressed previous day but I didn't get any reply from you after that, and honestly I wasn't a big fan, so OM unexpectedly was in my more of leantown slot. Scumreads are spiderz/dai (sorry ayia, but I don't can't see why you believe that daisocks can only be scum if spiderz flip) townreads you AND yes despite having you said that i shouldn't have any null, im having a null on mm2 because i can't f'ing read this person - i don't know what they are ; i still feel that their lynch on om wasn't heavy, but yet again them as om's partner doesn't satisfy a no-switch on the wagon, but there's their easy bus because om was being heavy susp and them bussing will HEAVILY reward them who do i thnk are chosen? you, and i can only think of you rn |
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Post by Champ1604 on Jul 21, 2018 10:09:06 GMT
‘If Champ flips VT: we win woot’ I’m just putting this here because fuck mobile quoting systems Anyway, I don’t think this is true because Mafia can just NL. Right? Is that how it works? But if it isn’t how that works, then by all means, I’ll lynch Champ. Really though, it makes no difference; both getting lynched means town win, so idrc. But if anything, I’d go for the scummier of the two, being Spiderz (imo), since I highly doubt either are chosen. And doesn’t your logic for lynching Champ also apply to Spiderz anyway? Idk, I may be dumb. But I’d like Spiderz to also speak... like at all. Makes you wonder how he hasn’t been subbed out by now. :thonk: Meta aside, irdc who of the two get lynched, really this makes me feel like i should push them on my town wagon, but honestly if i were to assume that spiderz was town then viewing this as an easy push on spiderz ct can be so perfect, really enough to convince ayia to work for them |
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Post by Dasocks~ on Jul 21, 2018 14:21:59 GMT
*cough* Technically speaking, there’s a chance anyone could be CT. What’s your point, exactly? First of, your main target switched fast there. Very interesting. Or maybe in that time you thought of a better course of action that would win you the game? Secondly, could you elaborate on how Champ is conf scum if MM2 flips town and vice versa? Thirdly, could you again elaborate on how MM2 being scum makes sense? To be honest, this all seems like some sort of desperate scum attempt at victory, in which MM2 is a VT and Champ is a CT, hence the flip-flop. All the more reason to lynch Spiderz and get their flip, tbh 1. I was responding to Ayia 2. Uh no it did not switch very fast i scum read both of them 3. POE 4. Did you read my second post of the day 1. So nobody else can comment? Besides, you didn’t really imply that. 2. But you still switched your lynch fast there. From Champ to MM2 within an hour... because... Champ can be CT? Color me confused. 3. I don’t necessarily follow, but I guess. 4. Yes |
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Post by ayia on Jul 21, 2018 15:22:05 GMT
The whole Champ/MM2 interaction in my opinion paints the former in a townier light than the latter, as with the OM/MM2 interaction. From POE, that would leave MM2 and Spiderz in my scumpool. I’m perfectly fine with either of these lynched, to be honest. Lynch SpiderzMain reason why Dasocks is town. Spiderz lynch here makes ZERO sense as scum. A shift off a partner and onto a potentially chosen townie would be so good for scum in this situation. |
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Post by ayia on Jul 21, 2018 15:25:15 GMT
Just basing off of scuminess, I think Champ and Dasocks are super townie right now, emphasis on Champ. I want more out of Mecha.
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Post by MechaMew2 on Jul 22, 2018 4:48:58 GMT
Champ1604 really left me hanging regarding my posts end of last day. I feel like they tried to sweep the whole situation under the rug. Last day, I'm seeing og villain and Champ1604 as a scumteam trying to create a counterwagon to me. Champ1604 piggybacked off of XnadrojX's reasoning so I think they wanted XnadrojX to help wagon.
The more I reread on Daisocks's last Day 2 post, the more inclined I am to agree with ayia since Daisocks had a decent amount of ground to shift plurality.
Lynch Champ1604
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Post by ayia on Jul 22, 2018 5:27:50 GMT
Champ1604 really left me hanging regarding my posts end of last day. I feel like they tried to sweep the whole situation under the rug. Last day, I'm seeing og villain and Champ1604 as a scumteam trying to create a counterwagon to me. Champ1604 piggybacked off of XnadrojX's reasoning so I think they wanted XnadrojX to help wagon. The more I reread on Daisocks's last Day 2 post, the more inclined I am to agree with ayia since Daisocks had a decent amount of ground to shift plurality. Lynch Champ1604Can you do me a favor and just hammer spiderz it would make everyone's lives so much easier |
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Post by ayia on Jul 22, 2018 5:29:51 GMT
I'm not getting off Spiderz. I don't think Dasocks is either. Champ, for that matter, has turned from one of my biggest scumreads to one of my biggest townreads so you're not getting me lynching her, at least not today. You're almost confidently chosen.
Actually can I ask you a question? Who do you think is chosen and why?
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Post by MechaMew2 on Jul 22, 2018 18:07:09 GMT
I guess we are in a bit of a gridlock lynch-wise then. I don't exactly want to end day early by lynching my townread even if plurality almost certainly falls on them.
Regarding who is chosen, I'm pretty confident about ayia, since og villain was pushing him Day 1, plus he's still alive after becoming almost a universal townread. I'm not as sure about the second one, but if I had to bet I would say me, since I didn't die after pushing og villain and being the counterwagon. I doubt Daisocks or spiderz as chosen because they would've been easier candidates for an earlier lynch for scum to push.
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Post by ayia on Jul 23, 2018 4:44:21 GMT
I am almost certain I'm chosen so here's where I'm at:
if Spiderz flips VT, let's get Dasocks as I'm almost certain they're not chosen
if Spiderz flips Chosen, I want Mecha dead immediately.
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Post by ayia on Jul 23, 2018 5:18:44 GMT
wait no i take that back
if I die after Spiderz flips chosen I want Champ lynched
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Post by Dasocks~ on Jul 23, 2018 14:53:44 GMT
Ye, we don't even really need to lynch scum at this point, only VTs. Since Ayia is almost most definitely chosen, that leaves Champ or MM2, and since I most definitely doubt Spiderz or I are chosen, just lynch the both of us and we should win.
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Post by ayia on Jul 24, 2018 4:06:02 GMT
Deadline is like
now
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 24, 2018 4:07:11 GMT
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 24, 2018 4:13:04 GMT
LYNCHCOUNT 3.SOMETHING
spiderz (2)*- Dasocks~ , ayia
mechamew2 (1)- spiderz
champ1604 (1)- MechaMew2
Not voting: Champ1604
Spiderz has been lynched!
I believe the game is over, but please wait until the official flip before doing or saying anything further.
Just go do something else until Snaq gets here.
(For the record he asked me for a vc earlier but I like, forgot)
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jul 24, 2018 7:51:35 GMT
Yeah, the game's over then! Thanks for participating everyone. We'll announce the MVP soon.
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Post by MechaMew2 on Jul 24, 2018 11:14:38 GMT
Woahh, good game. Just out of curiosity, who were the chosen ones?
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jul 24, 2018 12:56:34 GMT
But there’s also a chance champ is CT aswell at this point I would say Ayia is most likely CT and honestly I’m thinking unlynch Champ, Lynch Mecha is more likely at this point if Mecha flips champ is almost certainly scum but I think MechaMew2 is scum it makes sense can i just say that this should have been enough to get him hammered |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jul 24, 2018 13:22:21 GMT
Woahh, good game. Just out of curiosity, who were the chosen ones? You and Champ1604! |
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Post by ayia on Jul 24, 2018 13:37:35 GMT
But there’s also a chance champ is CT aswell at this point I would say Ayia is most likely CT and honestly I’m thinking unlynch Champ, Lynch Mecha is more likely at this point if Mecha flips champ is almost certainly scum but I think MechaMew2 is scum it makes sense can i just say that this should have been enough to get him hammered i mean this and 50 other scummy things that he did |
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