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Post by Crespo on Mar 10, 2019 10:41:19 GMT
Ohai moto
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 10:50:27 GMT
I love vigvig rn
c7 is a perfectly fine lynch since hes doing jackshit,but so is alex,ill shift to c7 if alex proves to be useful
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 10:55:25 GMT
hi toni,also C7 and alex should both claim honestly alex's first posts gave me nothing to tr him from honestly, Jezebelle is also offering nothing essential rn but at least hes trying,while c7 is not |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 11:05:45 GMT
Gonna bump this so you can actually answer my question we're all at different skill levels and i think people are using the quality of posting by lesser players such as cantius as an excuse for sring. also this is so funny because i was going to respond to this earlier, but i thought it was a statement/sr mockingly made in the form of a question. so to answer your question, i highlighted that quote in particular because i think people are using filler as a reason to sr, when in reality, most of d1 is filler, and i'm obviously biased and more sympathetic to players like cantius doing it. After questioning my Cantius read, I have to agree with you. I re-read daystart and his interactions - if Cantius is scum, then i'd also say that vooper isn't scum (why would you rvs your partner gamestart?). However, this contradicts how I view vooper atm. Also you and moto ("gut town read" really?) view cantius oppositely, so idk what to make of that. In regards to ftf, I guess I'm not used to forum interactions and his level of contribution, but, since that was my main reason for sussing him out I'd have to be neutral him (in addition to what chap analyzed of his previous classic = soft lean town). This was referring to that huge wall of text you blame on your laptop (lol). Nothing you've really said is trash (mostly neutral questions it seems). --- Replies are over. Now for some questions. 1) What is "pocketing" ? 2) Does anyone have any useful resources to reading tone ? For the most part, it seems intuitive though I'd like to know what to look for (tells unique to forum games I wouldn't know) Reminder that scum are 4-strong. If anything, they'd distance from each other making opposing reads, clashing on wagons, and probably soft-bussing at least one of their partners (if they've gotten on town's side). Based on this assumption, C7 and Cantius would be scum already (see daystart) [also if true scum-moto wouldnt be so brazen as to townread cantius imo]. I'm also curious as to why ftf chose to single out ELA for lack of contribution when there are at least 5 other people who have the same level of input (i DO agree though that ELA is coasting). Also, the fact that this feels like an 11p game (when its really 20p) speaks volumes for how I perceive town contribution and activity. I hope we get more out of this than the slim majority of people trying to make good conversation. I'm not playing devil's advocate for the sake of doing it; i'm primarily doing it because I want town to understand where i am coming from when i see a cantius lynch based on 'what do you think of the color red'. that's all i'm really saying in response to you, i like the more detailed response here. Reply is over; reply to 'Replies are over. Now for some questions.' I could be entirely wrong, but for all I know, pocketing is scum tactic for when you use your influence to attempt to get someone to townlock you and basically play the game with you, as they are 'in your back pocket'. vooper was basically stating that i was 'pocketing' him because we have a friendship outside of the game, and that i am a potential sr for townleaning him. as for reading resources, i'd start on mafiascum. ------------------------- based on the instalynch, i'm going to Lynch: Alexander489 inb4 cantius buddy accusations You are using way too many words to say:Cantius isnt that good so I believe he is being framed,the reasoning on cantius is bad (which I agree with,and I honestly find cantius as a very easy push for someone like Alexander489,who could be scum trying to shift attention off himself cough cough) and "im not pocketing vooper" which just adds to my point that you are not saying anything essential |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 11:07:49 GMT
alex had a very alex opening ill need to look into that more alex who do you tr from ur og read dualy noted. no strong trs as of now but i tl chapterseven for his willingness to play the game Generic read #2 |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 11:09:30 GMT
Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ started off well but then he just decided to lurk into oblivion,please play the game jodram22 's opening is awful but I'll look into that more tomorrow
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 11:14:08 GMT
I take it you read the game? If so, what are your thoughts right now? Thoughts on the Ela lynch? Thoughts on practically anything? I have read up and after careful consideration I can give you the following gems. Scumpool C7, Cantius, and ZOL Initial TRs Chapter7 FTF Scorr A bit of elaboration is due, c7's opening was panicked and defeatist. Cantius' activity seems forced, and Zol hasnt done anything except park his lynch FTF has been helpful, and with regards to the accusations made about doing the hosts job, introducing newer players to forum mechanics can only help the game as a whole so I am in support of that. Chapter 7's activity and reads say town to me, and scorr is just a gut thing. On the ela lynch, I can understand why some people are on it, but I don't see how that's a more pressing issue than the absolutely trash d1's of Cantius or c7 I appreciate your attempt at giving reads,but why do you think cantius' activity seems forced (other than parroting everyone else) Other than that I like this post,although I dont necessarily agree with it (your reasoning to tr ftf is lacking,feels more like a pocket honestly) again,I dont tr Cantius and I would like to hear more from them please,but I seriously feel there are better lynches |
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Post by Crespo on Mar 10, 2019 11:20:40 GMT
I have read up and after careful consideration I can give you the following gems. Scumpool C7, Cantius, and ZOL Initial TRs Chapter7 FTF Scorr A bit of elaboration is due, c7's opening was panicked and defeatist. Cantius' activity seems forced, and Zol hasnt done anything except park his lynch FTF has been helpful, and with regards to the accusations made about doing the hosts job, introducing newer players to forum mechanics can only help the game as a whole so I am in support of that. Chapter 7's activity and reads say town to me, and scorr is just a gut thing. On the ela lynch, I can understand why some people are on it, but I don't see how that's a more pressing issue than the absolutely trash d1's of Cantius or c7 I appreciate your attempt at giving reads,but why do you think cantius' activity seems forced (other than parroting everyone else) He's barely been active anyway tbh |
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Post by jodram22 on Mar 10, 2019 12:12:08 GMT
His first 3 posts.
1. A carbon copy of Vooper's first post
2. the silly rqs color thing
3. shitposty filler about rvs
None of the activity is legitimate and activity since then has declined
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Post by jodram22 on Mar 10, 2019 12:35:13 GMT
Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ started off well but then he just decided to lurk into oblivion,please play the game jodram22 's opening is awful but I'll look into that more tomorrow what about my opening was "awful"? |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Mar 10, 2019 13:42:17 GMT
Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ started off well but then he just decided to lurk into oblivion,please play the game Forgive me for having a job. LYNCH: C7 |
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Post by Crespo on Mar 10, 2019 13:44:55 GMT
Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ started off well but then he just decided to lurk into oblivion,please play the game jodram22 's opening is awful but I'll look into that more tomorrow Imagine calling out just Schiavetto when it's been 1/2 of the game being active so far |
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Post by happylappy on Mar 10, 2019 13:49:49 GMT
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Post by happylappy on Mar 10, 2019 13:57:34 GMT
Lynches (Hammer: 11)
Deadline: Today (Sunday) (courtesy of Pokeniner)
Cantius - 4* Toni XY, C7, Alexander489, Jodram22
C7 - 4 Vooper, Vigilante Vigoroth, irokei, Schiavetto
Alexander489 - 3 ZestOfLife, motogp, Jezebelle
Eeveelution Army - 2 chapterseven, ForgotToFlush
thimblebony - 1 ?
motogp - 1 coinboy
ZestOfLife - 1 Eeveelution Army
If the day were to end right now, Cantius would be lynched. Again, If you notice any errors with the lynches, let me know BEFORE twilight, and i’ll fix it, and post an updated Lynch count
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Post by Crespo on Mar 10, 2019 14:04:35 GMT
Unless Cantius actually comes back and says something productive, I'm staying on him.
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 10, 2019 14:54:46 GMT
 I’m on mobile currently and at 4% battery, so give me some time to do some reading. |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 15:53:52 GMT
Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ started off well but then he just decided to lurk into oblivion,please play the game jodram22 's opening is awful but I'll look into that more tomorrow what about my opening was "awful"? CAn sOmEOnE fIlL mE Up ok but in all seriousness i didnt read the rest of your post,it was actually pretty ok |
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Post by Fenrir on Mar 10, 2019 16:51:42 GMT
First things first, everyone should stay on forums after this game’s done so they can join other ones :thumbsup: Anyways, I kind of like C7’s entrance to the game on page 3/4 because I don’t think scum!C7 would have the desire to talk more. Hot take: RQS can be as useful as RVS is and y’all’re bad for going after someone for using it. The Mafiascum wiki is not the end-all-be-all encyclopedia. Moto’s entrance and some of his other posts are incredibly self-conscious (to an extent where I have him open as a lynch option for today) but I vaguely recall someone being similarly self-conscious in a past forum game and I need to go back and check if it was him. Not really a fan of Jona [FtF] (then again when am I :think:). In this case because he’s got a lot of early content but none of it’s going to help people get a read on him. ELA’s entrance and quick departure aren’t v great. Second pop-in to just comment on coinboy’s NAI post makes them worse. I have a really stupid meta reason to scumread Scorrching rn, but I’m gonna hold off before committing to that read. I’ve been nightkilled by scum!Scorrching before because I didn’t commit to a scumread on him (see: Countdown) so let’s just clarify it; it’s tone-based and I’ve noticed he’s significantly more lightheaded and usually finds some kind of posting gimmick as scum. Crespo can you tell me more about your reads on Jona and Cantius when you first arrived? In your really big first post I’m not quoting because of the size and being on mobile, you’re implying you townread him based on his helping people with terminology and I want to know what makes it a towntell; similarly with Cantius I want to know what makes his use of RQS scummy. My sub’s gross and ima take a second to just be like “If it’d get you muted or banned in the room, you probably shouldn’t do it here either.” chapterseven and @vigilantevigoroth do you think C7 mentioning he feels like he wants to talk more because of the forum setting is AI or no? The current theory I’m working with is that as scum he’d be more hesitant about talking. “i dont know why you'd want to contend cantius and vooper if your thoughts on them amount to gut feelings” ForgotToFlush this response to moto dodges the question, why are Cantius/vooper in your scumpile currently? I also want to know about Schia, since they and vooper haven’t left much impression on me. Also, how’re you going to dismiss backing up those reads because moto only had “gut feelings” on those people and then immediately call your post “something that got the game going” when talking to C7? I’m mindmelding with a lot of what Chapter Seven says, although I still want to know his thoughts on C7. (That’s gonna be a fun pair of names to keep track of >_<) Cantius since your “agreement is not indicative of town” post showed up right after I said this, thoughts on this? The logic is that if someone else is showing a similar mindset to you and you’re town, they’re consequently more likely to be town. Moto wanting to pressure a 0-poster’s sub is a strong “Do not like” moment, as is his subsequent tunneling of said 0-poster when they finally do post. @eeveelutionarmy does ZoL’s lack of presence (he has one post iirc) make him more likely to be scum that the other ten people with early votes? From what little I recall of the Classic8 game Alex’s entrance and play here so far are significantly different than his behavior as scum there, which is good. I feel like generally speaking when Toni’s town he pretty quickly reads like it; I haven’t gotten that vibe here yet and he has a lot of questions he asked and not followed up on if I remember correctly. I’ll go over his ISO again but currently have a FoS on him. I like Irokei’s response to Jezebelle for the re-evaluation and subsequent confusion when the evaluation doesn’t match up with his other reads. irokei where does it leave you at though with regards to who you’d prefer to lynch today? I’m disagreeing pretty hard with a C7 lynch today, so if y’all really want that someone’s gonna have to sell it to me. C7’s another ISO I need to reread, namely to see if I agree with the accusations Vigvig brought up about his having no reads/contribution. I’d prefer ELA or moto as a D1 lynch. Cantius is currently in the null area for me since his activity definitely took a drop but there’s nothing from when he was active that pings me. Nothing Alex has posted has made me scumread him currently. Let’s Shift These Wagons My vote for the time being’s staying on moto. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 10, 2019 16:51:57 GMT
Hello, now that we got the filler out of the way, I'mma ask you your thoughts on who you think is town or not town. Um, wow, definitely don't like the tacit suggestion that I haven't communicated any of my reads, rude tbqh? But if you mean "Who do I want lynched?", I'll say that I don't much appreciate the opportunistic attitude some of y'all seem to have toward ZoL for parking. My earlier remark re: FTF still stands, but as I said, he's a positive presence in the game for the time being.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 10, 2019 16:52:30 GMT
fenrir who did you sub for
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 10, 2019 16:56:38 GMT
“i dont know why you'd want to contend cantius and vooper if your thoughts on them amount to gut feelings” ForgotToFlush this response to moto dodges the question, why are Cantius/vooper in your scumpile currently? I also want to know about Schia, since they and vooper haven’t left much impression on me.
he didn't have much reason to ask me that question because he had no real opinions on the people he was asking about |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 10, 2019 17:04:12 GMT
I’m disagreeing pretty hard with a C7 lynch today, so if y’all really want that someone’s gonna have to sell it to me. C7’s another ISO I need to reread, namely to see if I agree with the accusations Vigvig brought up about his having no reads/contribution. I’d prefer ELA or moto as a D1 lynch. Cantius is currently in the null area for me since his activity definitely took a drop but there’s nothing from when he was active that pings me. Nothing Alex has posted has made me scumread him currently. Let’s Shift These Wagons My vote for the time being’s staying on moto.
dont mind moto lynch
prefer ela lynch
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Mar 10, 2019 17:07:20 GMT
His first 3 posts. 1. A carbon copy of Vooper's first post 2. the silly rqs color thing 3. shitposty filler about rvs None of the activity is legitimate and activity since then has declined What makes think that his shitposting is part of a scum mindset rather than lazy/bad town? |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Mar 10, 2019 17:12:08 GMT
hi toni,also C7 and alex should both claim honestly alex's first posts gave me nothing to tr him from honestly, Jezebelle is also offering nothing essential rn but at least hes trying,while c7 is not What is achieved by having them claim? I think that play is a big no no. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Mar 10, 2019 17:14:01 GMT
That lynch seems very suspicious but I can't put my finger as to why.
basically he tries to accuse me of chainsawing, which is a townie thought process
but his lack of confidence and non-committal is mildly scum indicative
so like, the intent to solve is there, it's just that he won't stick to his guns, who knows if out of fear or other reasons
but definitely a post i'd like people to factor in when trying to read him, especially with all the comments of non-contribution |
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