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Post by chapterseven on Mar 10, 2019 22:14:12 GMT
^happened to me at school i feel you
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Post by C7 on Mar 10, 2019 22:14:17 GMT
Part 2, seemed I only had like 1 more thing to explain/talk particular not about, I'll probobly go back and find other things to talk about I should've worded that better, "now that we got THAT filler" instead of "THE filler". It was later at night and I wasn't exactly in the perfect mood to think clearly. I don't like VigVig's absolute HATRED to me asking that question though I sorta agree with moto, though I'd like to see actual activity since you are great when you do speak your mind. I don't even mind if it's not often but when you don't post often and your first post back is that up there, idk its just a waste? are you implying that im lurking That was aimed at schia, not you (The activity thing) You are most certainly not lurking |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:20:38 GMT
Um, wow, definitely don't like the tacit suggestion that I haven't communicated any of my reads, rude tbqh? But if you mean "Who do I want lynched?", I'll say that I don't much appreciate the opportunistic attitude some of y'all seem to have toward ZoL for parking. My earlier remark re: FTF still stands, but as I said, he's a positive presence in the game for the time being. Looking back at Schia because of the lynch a few seconds ago and I found this post. On this post, you actually haven't given your read on anything at all before this. Saying "Flush could be scum but im going to give him the benefit of the doubt" isnt an opinion of anything and again while I repsect you have work, besides that you been hella filler and havent taken a stance on anything even more so than ELA C7 or any of the other lurkers. also you dodged C7 question and didnt even answer it infact you changed it to better suit yourself. Why are you so against lynching ZOL? and to piggyback on C7's question who do you think is town or not town, this you never answered either. Unlynch Eeveelution Army Lynch SchiavettoI want answers, now and I will not drop this question until I have my answers. If Cant flips Mafia this is Mafia too and C7 is most likely not Mafia. I am in heavy Favor of a Schiavetto, Cant, or ELA lynch right now one of these 3 are getting lynch today and nobody else. I was actually feeling the same way earlier,im just not getting the activity im expecting from schiavetto,instead filler and all of the stuff you said god c7 can you play mafia more often you'll take away half my work |
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Post by Crespo on Mar 10, 2019 22:25:49 GMT
I sense someone having a huge ego zzzz
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:31:20 GMT
Looking back at Schia because of the lynch a few seconds ago and I found this post. On this post, you actually haven't given your read on anything at all before this. Saying "Flush could be scum but im going to give him the benefit of the doubt" isnt an opinion of anything and again while I repsect you have work, besides that you been hella filler and havent taken a stance on anything even more so than ELA C7 or any of the other lurkers. also you dodged C7 question and didnt even answer it infact you changed it to better suit yourself. Why are you so against lynching ZOL? and to piggyback on C7's question who do you think is town or not town, this you never answered either. Unlynch Eeveelution Army Lynch SchiavettoI want answers, now and I will not drop this question until I have my answers. If Cant flips Mafia this is Mafia too and C7 is most likely not Mafia. I am in heavy Favor of a Schiavetto, Cant, or ELA lynch right now one of these 3 are getting lynch today and nobody else. I feel like I complain about this a lot, but there really is something to be said for making inferences. I'm against the ZoL lynch for exactly the reasons I stated: it's opportunistic. I feel like people are taking that single play of his(ZoL) and using it as an opporutnity to force an early mislynch on a decently strong player. It's telling to me that you had to make your first post linking me and Cantius before actually going back to read anything from me - again, this comes across as you trying to plug in holes to make sense of a narrative you've already decided on: that my C7 lynch came out of nowhere and was a defensive lynch to give the Cantius wagon some competition. why are you against 1 clearly opportunistic lynch (zol),but not against another (cantius)? |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Mar 10, 2019 22:33:31 GMT
How do you see the Cantius wagon as being on par with the ZoL wagon in terms of opportunism?
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:33:58 GMT
saying 'arguing is not filler' and nothing else IS filler. don't blame people now that you're being sr'd for filler. vv
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why did u tr urself LOL how iconic. anyway yeah i'm failing to see what moto is adding besides elaborate spins on other's reads. i want actual speaking from cantius, zol, alex. also i want elaboration on why, ftf, you switched up from bad vibes on vooper, schia. I have full knowledge of why I posted this,and it was because I don't like people stating blunt reads.It's a very nice way to develop an sr on someone whenever he cant thoroughly explain most of his reads (then again it was ftf but shrug) I also realise that his explanations werent the best possible,however I do think they make sense |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:34:25 GMT
I sense someone having a huge ego zzzz thats something I am not denying |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:38:11 GMT
How do you see the Cantius wagon as being on par with the ZoL wagon in terms of opportunism? There was no zol wagon and I find it interesting that you would rather focus on an opportunistic lynch from which there hasnt started a wagon than an opportunistic lynch from which a wagon quickly begun You're tring zol for the same reason i tl cantius,yet I fail to see why you didnt bother to ask zol for more contrbution,if you were defending him and you knew he would be a lynch people would follow and to answer your question,i am comparing a person who was hard fossed for RQSing and a person who was soft fossed for rvsing and leaving |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:40:05 GMT
I sense someone having a huge ego zzzz thats something I am not denying what I also dont deny is that c7 is a better player than me and very useful to the current town,which i find it likely for him to be a part of,unlike you,since you seem to be directing a large portion of your questions at me but not gaining anything from those very questions |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:40:36 GMT
I do appreciate that you're talking at the very least,unlike some other people
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:44:29 GMT
I feel like I complain about this a lot, but there really is something to be said for making inferences. I'm against the ZoL lynch for exactly the reasons I stated: it's opportunistic. I feel like people are taking that single play of his(ZoL) and using it as an opporutnity to force an early mislynch on a decently strong player.A decently strong player who lynched and didn't look at the game again? How will that help us at all in the long run? It won't. I am inclined to agree with toni here;any strong player who isnt actually contributing in the game is not useful e.g. tbz when he's lurking |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:46:53 GMT
also I'll have to say,I like vigvig's aggresiveness,he's an example of a player who isnt talking much rn but knows when to pressure the correct people
I feel schia is starting to crack under all this pressure,would definitely like a fos on him tomorrow
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Post by Crespo on Mar 10, 2019 22:48:18 GMT
I do appreciate that you're talking at the very least,unlike some other people I'm trying a new playstyle tbh. Want to see whether it works when scumhunting or nah |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:48:44 GMT
Lastly,I dont see any reason not to lynch alex,he still hasnt been helpful at all
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Post by Crespo on Mar 10, 2019 22:49:51 GMT
What makes you think Alex>Zol...
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:52:09 GMT
First things first, everyone should stay on forums after this game’s done so they can join other ones :thumbsup: Anyways, I kind of like C7’s entrance to the game on page 3/4 because I don’t think scum!C7 would have the desire to talk more. Hot take: RQS can be as useful as RVS is and y’all’re bad for going after someone for using it. The Mafiascum wiki is not the end-all-be-all encyclopedia. Moto’s entrance and some of his other posts are incredibly self-conscious (to an extent where I have him open as a lynch option for today) but I vaguely recall someone being similarly self-conscious in a past forum game and I need to go back and check if it was him. Not really a fan of Jona [FtF] (then again when am I :think:). In this case because he’s got a lot of early content but none of it’s going to help people get a read on him. ELA’s entrance and quick departure aren’t v great. Second pop-in to just comment on coinboy’s NAI post makes them worse. I have a really stupid meta reason to scumread Scorrching rn, but I’m gonna hold off before committing to that read. I’ve been nightkilled by scum!Scorrching before because I didn’t commit to a scumread on him (see: Countdown) so let’s just clarify it; it’s tone-based and I’ve noticed he’s significantly more lightheaded and usually finds some kind of posting gimmick as scum. Crespo can you tell me more about your reads on Jona and Cantius when you first arrived? In your really big first post I’m not quoting because of the size and being on mobile, you’re implying you townread him based on his helping people with terminology and I want to know what makes it a towntell; similarly with Cantius I want to know what makes his use of RQS scummy. My sub’s gross and ima take a second to just be like “If it’d get you muted or banned in the room, you probably shouldn’t do it here either.” chapterseven and @vigilantevigoroth do you think C7 mentioning he feels like he wants to talk more because of the forum setting is AI or no? The current theory I’m working with is that as scum he’d be more hesitant about talking. “i dont know why you'd want to contend cantius and vooper if your thoughts on them amount to gut feelings” ForgotToFlush this response to moto dodges the question, why are Cantius/vooper in your scumpile currently? I also want to know about Schia, since they and vooper haven’t left much impression on me. Also, how’re you going to dismiss backing up those reads because moto only had “gut feelings” on those people and then immediately call your post “something that got the game going” when talking to C7? I’m mindmelding with a lot of what Chapter Seven says, although I still want to know his thoughts on C7. (That’s gonna be a fun pair of names to keep track of >_<) Cantius since your “agreement is not indicative of town” post showed up right after I said this, thoughts on this? The logic is that if someone else is showing a similar mindset to you and you’re town, they’re consequently more likely to be town. Moto wanting to pressure a 0-poster’s sub is a strong “Do not like” moment, as is his subsequent tunneling of said 0-poster when they finally do post. @eeveelutionarmy does ZoL’s lack of presence (he has one post iirc) make him more likely to be scum that the other ten people with early votes? From what little I recall of the Classic8 game Alex’s entrance and play here so far are significantly different than his behavior as scum there, which is good. I feel like generally speaking when Toni’s town he pretty quickly reads like it; I haven’t gotten that vibe here yet and he has a lot of questions he asked and not followed up on if I remember correctly. I’ll go over his ISO again but currently have a FoS on him. I like Irokei’s response to Jezebelle for the re-evaluation and subsequent confusion when the evaluation doesn’t match up with his other reads. irokei where does it leave you at though with regards to who you’d prefer to lynch today? I’m disagreeing pretty hard with a C7 lynch today, so if y’all really want that someone’s gonna have to sell it to me. C7’s another ISO I need to reread, namely to see if I agree with the accusations Vigvig brought up about his having no reads/contribution. I’d prefer ELA or moto as a D1 lynch. Cantius is currently in the null area for me since his activity definitely took a drop but there’s nothing from when he was active that pings me. Nothing Alex has posted has made me scumread him currently. Let’s Shift These Wagons My vote for the time being’s staying on moto. somehow missed this entirely,you're mostly on point with pretty much everythung unless i didnt read the post well,would like you to elaborate what you mean by self conscious a bit further |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:52:38 GMT
What makes you think Alex>Zol... zol doesnt have 3 lynches,if one of them is getting lynched its alex |
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Post by Crespo on Mar 10, 2019 22:53:56 GMT
My dude I'm not against shifting to Zol right now
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:54:50 GMT
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 22:55:39 GMT
My dude I'm not against shifting to Zol right now if you lynch alex,he'll have 4 lynches if ive counted correctly,whereas if we both lynch zol he'll have 3,plurality is on cantius with 4 again if i havent missed anything |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Mar 10, 2019 22:56:38 GMT
saying 'arguing is not filler' and nothing else IS filler. I don't know that I agree with this statement. I do know that you came into this game with a townlean on me and vooper and I haven't seen much explanation (or suggestion) of why that's the case. I feel like I complain about this a lot, but there really is something to be said for making inferences. I'm against the ZoL lynch for exactly the reasons I stated: it's opportunistic. I feel like people are taking that single play of his(ZoL) and using it as an opporutnity to force an early mislynch on a decently strong player.A decently strong player who lynched and didn't look at the game again? How will that help us at all in the long run? It won't. I'm trying to think of a way to make this understood. So imagine we're on Showdown, right? Player A parks on Player B, then fucks off for a bit. Suddenly, a sizeable chunk of the playerlist's attention falls on them. Some rando says "Nah, this ain't it chief; the wagon's building too quickly." Things move elsewhere. It's not necessarily because people TR the slot. It's not because people don't want more from the slot. It's because town wants to identify and eliminate scum, and scum wants to eliminate town--and if scum has an easy push, they'll go for it. I saw the situation with ZoL as analogous - and forgive me for being wary, but it was important to me at the time to spend our efforts elsewhere. I don't see what's particularly scandalous about that, or why that position is being framed as outrageous. |
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Post by motogp on Mar 10, 2019 23:00:07 GMT
saying 'arguing is not filler' and nothing else IS filler. I don't know that I agree with this statement. I do know that you came into this game with a townlean on me and vooper and I haven't seen much explanation (or suggestion) of why that's the case. A decently strong player who lynched and didn't look at the game again? How will that help us at all in the long run? It won't. I'm trying to think of a way to make this understood. So imagine we're on Showdown, right? Player A parks on Player B, then fucks off for a bit. Suddenly, a sizeable chunk of the playerlist's attention falls on them. Some rando says "Nah, this ain't it chief; the wagon's building too quickly." Things move elsewhere. It's not necessarily because people TR the slot. It's not because people don't want more from the slot. It's because town wants to identify and eliminate scum, and scum wants to eliminate town--and if scum has an easy push, they'll go for it. I saw the situation with ZoL as analogous - and forgive me for being wary, but it was important to me at the time to spend our efforts elsewhere. I don't see what's particularly scandalous about that, or why that position is being framed as outrageous. A vast majority of scum lynches in ps mafia is caused by this kind of quicklynching;also respond to my questions I agree with you calling out jezebelle though im honestly fine with a cantius lynch because i have a null read on him and id love to see some reactions and thorough reasons from the people on him tomorrow,if im alive,but I will kindly ask you to shift to alex,a lynch on whom I prefer also mistagged C7 |
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Post by Crespo on Mar 10, 2019 23:01:13 GMT
My dude I'm not against shifting to Zol right now if you lynch alex,he'll have 4 lynches if ive counted correctly,whereas if we both lynch zol he'll have 3,plurality is on cantius with 4 again if i havent missed anything Cantius would have 3 because I'm currently on them. |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Mar 10, 2019 23:01:30 GMT
I do appreciate that you're talking at the very least,unlike some other people A big part of my issue is that people say things for the sake of saying things all the time. Accusations of me fillering proceeded from one (1) post in which I said hi to Jodram, but everything else from me has been substantial. I would much rather sparse but substantial then just talking for the sake of talking - and, again, if you actually read and process the contents of my few-but-fair posts, I have made my thoughts on C7's contributions quite plain. As far as I'm concerned, his panicking and motormouthing under pressure is just active filler. I'm not shifting any time soon. |
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