Summer Circuit D6, Game 1: Greek Heroes [GAME OVER]

[Mylo13]

Jun 9, 2019 14:28:31 GMT edwardzealchemist said:

According to u guys if there is 1 mafia pr, we have 2 prs as well. So if ignited claimed pr, there seems to be no reason for ignited to claim at first. It seems pointless to claim on day 1 considering how we already lost a pr day 1

Ignited wouldn't know there are two PR's, or that we'd lose a PR to be fair haha.

[Mylo13]

Jun 9, 2019 14:42:30 GMT commanderawesome said:

yeah i agree with that most recent post. ul wob, lynch zlerdsib. As for brady, I think we're on the same page, I just am not as ready to call brady a tr as you are, just forr toni, but as of rn he shouldnt really be on my mind, more important people to focus on/lynch

We're mostly on the same page here, I do still have a question mark in the back of my mind about him. But he's done enough stuff to be pushed up in my townreads (And so have you now for that matter haha).

[Brady1014]

Okay I’m back from my long slumber, reading through what happened today just got me thinking that one of these is true



A. Only 1 scum probably is inactive as there was night kills

OR

B. Both could be hyper lurking

Now looking back at how last night played out I definately think scum got a pr vibe from yashgreninja.. Now i would say thimblepony would be most likely to kill Yash as he specifically called thimble out.. CA subbed in for him. Meanless to say pretty sure all the inactives are either lurking hard, doesnt care, or (most likely) IS at least scum.. Maybe I’m completely wrong because there are 2 scum left so litterally it could be 2 hyper lurkers.. Either way best case scenario is to lynch one of the subs (and no I’m not saying this b/c the zeep wagon rn is my cw), because Yash dying makes absolutely no sense to any of the active people at the start of the game. And doesn’t to me at all. Either someone subbed in (at any point) and decided to kill said Yash because they werent completely in the mindset of who to tr and who to power role read etc. OR this could be a not / very (either or) well thought out kill from the active players.

Also if you want the maths if 1/2 of scum are lurking or if 2/2 scum are lurking.. We have better odds than 1/2 or 0/2... This is 100% reliant on my logic being right tho.. Take this with a grain of salt

[Brady1014]

Jun 9, 2019 15:11:33 GMT Brady1014 said:

Okay I’m back from my long slumber, reading through what happened today just got me thinking that one of these is true



A. Only 1 scum probably is inactive as there was night kills

OR

B. Both could be hyper lurking

Now looking back at how last night played out I definately think scum got a pr vibe from yashgreninja.. Now i would say thimblepony would be most likely to kill Yash as he specifically called thimble out.. CA subbed in for him. Meanless to say pretty sure all the inactives are either lurking hard, doesnt care, or (most likely) IS at least scum.. Maybe I’m completely wrong because there are 2 scum left so litterally it could be 2 hyper lurkers.. Either way best case scenario is to lynch one of the subs (and no I’m not saying this b/c the zeep wagon rn is my cw), because Yash dying makes absolutely no sense to any of the active people at the start of the game. And doesn’t to me at all. Either someone subbed in (at any point) and decided to kill said Yash because they werent completely in the mindset of who to tr and who to power role read etc. OR this could be a not / very (either or) well thought out kill from the active players.

Also if you want the maths if 1/2 of scum are lurking or if 2/2 scum are lurking.. We have better odds than 1/2 or 0/2... This is 100% reliant on my logic being right tho.. Take this with a grain of salt

Oh heres a 3rd option

C. This is completely wrong

[Brady1014]

Also to those skimming through, dont. Spend the time to actually read posts please.. Set aside 45 minutes of your time!

[Brady1014]

And yes that logic could be completely wrong and looking too much into math > players. But I also townread at this point, ALMOST all of the active starting players left (Still sorta null on ignited.. )

[Brady1014]

Jun 7, 2019 22:17:39 GMT Brady1014 said:

Jun 7, 2019 20:56:53 GMT ignitedgod said:

Am I still alive?
When is night?

Posts like these make me contemplate why I’m not lynching you.. Can you read the posts so far instead of acting like a complete noob?

Mainly because of this

[Dasocks~]

Jun 9, 2019 15:17:36 GMT Brady1014 said:

Also to those skimming through, dont. Spend the time to actually read posts please.. Set aside 45 minutes of your time!

No.

[Dasocks~]

Jun 9, 2019 14:26:44 GMT commanderawesome said:

Jun 9, 2019 14:15:23 GMT Mylo13 said:

Oh, who did they sub for?

Hi

[Dasocks~]

Jun 9, 2019 14:10:21 GMT commanderawesome said:

Alright so i just read whole game, and biggest problem is easily that theres the same 4 people talking, and no one else is. Reading on the first few pages, basically everyone who posted yelled town to me minus brady, so i tred derz, milo, sfl, toni and ignited. Overall I think atleast one of the people who has barely is scum 2 (ytpyro, zlerdzib), and the other is either wob or edward for overall not making half as many reads as everyone else here. dont want to count brady out though even if him being scum means he bussed, the toni lynch was just bad

Ignited fakeclaiming PR immediately screamed town to you? idk about you, but i definitely wouldn’t put it past scum to do something like this. This is a pretty weak townread, ngl

I hate the ‘they aren’t talking as much as the others so they’re scum’ argument, considering i’ve been the target of it before. It’s not very pretty. If someone has random life shit, i don’t think that should be the basis of an entire lynch/scumread.

As for wob and edward... having more/less reads isn’t a very strong foundation especially considering both were subbed in, and thus have had less time to form these reads compared to others. And having more reads doesn’t necessarily mean good - does the name stormfire-lucario ring a bell? I will concede that wob is definitely less... ‘reliable’, so to speak, and hasn’t provided much of note.
Overall, I’m going to need something more to be convinced.

[tenzhii]

give me 30 mins, ill respond on pc commanderawesome Mylo13

[tenzhii]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBAmoSX7isw heres some music to listen to while reading this, it should last up until the mediocre part

edwardzealchemist said:

According to u guys if there is 1 mafia pr, we have 2 prs as well. So if ignited claimed pr, there seems to be no reason for ignited to claim at first. It seems pointless to claim on day 1 considering how we already lost a pr day 1

ignited claimed pr? and no one discussed this? am i reading this wrong???


EDIT MID POST: apparently this was discussed, but not given much attention. regardless, we should renew the arguments stemming from this claim.

Dasocks~ said:

Ignited fakeclaiming PR immediately screamed town to you? idk about you, but i definitely wouldn’t put it past scum to do something like this. This is a pretty weak townread, ngl

I hate the ‘they aren’t talking as much as the others so they’re scum’ argument, considering i’ve been the target of it before. It’s not very pretty. If someone has random life shit, i don’t think that should be the basis of an entire lynch/scumread.

As for wob and edward... having more/less reads isn’t a very strong foundation especially considering both were subbed in, and thus have had less time to form these reads compared to others. And having more reads doesn’t necessarily mean good - does the name stormfire-lucario ring a bell? I will concede that wob is definitely less... ‘reliable’, so to speak, and hasn’t provided much of note.
Overall, I’m going to need something more to be convinced.

this is weird. more so not only because actions of the mafia somewhat line up with what theyre likely to do during the day, but also because after recently being subbed in dasocks is defending inactives. i know that denotation applies to me as well. i will fight you. slight sr on dasocks.

Mylo13 said:

I agree with the first part of the statement haha, Fenrir whenever you can get to that that'd be awesome lol.

I also agree with getting something started lol. I'll go złerdzib because they were mean and made fun of me (Also bc they've added very little to the discussion and have shared approximately no reads lol)

Lynch Złerdzib

the above (somewhat) contradicts the below

Mylo13

tenzhii said:



Actually I need your thoughts on this guys, if there's a bodyguard should they claim? A bodyguard just dies anyway if they use their power correctly, so I don't think there's that much point in hiding that role if it exists?







And given how quiet it is, it would be better to claim earlier to ensure something like yesterday doesn't happen where Toni was lynched without claiming if they were PR or not.







The only downside I could see is that if no one does claim bodyguard or a used one-shot vig, then scum knows there is still a one-shot vig around. But that shouldn't be that bad regardless, they can't stop it beyond killing someone they *think* it could be.



no. we're down 1 pr, and there is 0 reason to lose another.



If there is a one-shot Vig and they've used their shot on Yash, I think they may as well claim here? They can't do anything else and it'll be nice to have either a confirmed town or confirmed scum pool.







If there is a one-shot vig and they haven't used their shot, keep that private though!

yes. a big brain.

 







Sorry lol, was just spitballing but I get y'all's reasoning now haha.

doesnt add much, but consider it

Dasocks~ said:

Also, noticed a couple people noting how strange of a nk this was

My guess is that scum were just taking a shot in the dark in hopes of pinning the PR, since nobody’s really screamed “I’m important” as much as Spiderz has.



Don’t see any notable reads from yash himself unfortunately:(

id have to disagree with this reasoning. theres obviously already 1 or 2 leaders in play (and only one or two), so its kinda interesting that mylo hasnt died yet considering hes been the only one holding the town together, and i suspect commander awesome might be next following the trail. its also really interesting that scum went for someone active (at least, considering whos likely to be a pr) instead of a passive player. 

to further explain what differentiates trail 1 from trail 2 in the above sentence, trail 1 assumes scum wants to knock out the foundations of the town, while trail 2 assumes scum is hunting for PRs, but they've yet to go either way. (although i guess you could say yashgreninja was on trail 1, somewhat)

commanderawesome thoughts

[tenzhii]

wait was yash scum

[tenzhii]

no okay good

[tenzhii]

well, bad for us, but good for my wall

[Brady1014]

Jun 9, 2019 15:12:58 GMT Brady1014 said:

Jun 9, 2019 15:11:33 GMT Brady1014 said:

Okay I’m back from my long slumber, reading through what happened today just got me thinking that one of these is true



A. Only 1 scum probably is inactive as there was night kills

OR

B. Both could be hyper lurking

Now looking back at how last night played out I definately think scum got a pr vibe from yashgreninja.. Now i would say thimblepony would be most likely to kill Yash as he specifically called thimble out.. CA subbed in for him. Meanless to say pretty sure all the inactives are either lurking hard, doesnt care, or (most likely) IS at least scum.. Maybe I’m completely wrong because there are 2 scum left so litterally it could be 2 hyper lurkers.. Either way best case scenario is to lynch one of the subs (and no I’m not saying this b/c the zeep wagon rn is my cw), because Yash dying makes absolutely no sense to any of the active people at the start of the game. And doesn’t to me at all. Either someone subbed in (at any point) and decided to kill said Yash because they werent completely in the mindset of who to tr and who to power role read etc. OR this could be a not / very (either or) well thought out kill from the active players.

Also if you want the maths if 1/2 of scum are lurking or if 2/2 scum are lurking.. We have better odds than 1/2 or 0/2... This is 100% reliant on my logic being right tho.. Take this with a grain of salt

Oh heres a 3rd option

C. This is completely wrong

I'd like to know if you all agree or disagree with this and reasonings why.

[Brady1014]

Jun 9, 2019 20:01:34 GMT tenzhii said:

wait was yash scum

Did you feel a need to comment this before reading back

Same thing goes with like, all of ignited's posts.  Also why would a nightkill be scum (unless you thought vig killed them)?

[tenzhii]

Jun 9, 2019 21:45:52 GMT Brady1014 said:

Jun 9, 2019 20:01:34 GMT tenzhii said:

wait was yash scum

Did you feel a need to comment this before reading back

Same thing goes with like, all of ignited's posts.  Also why would a nightkill be scum (unless you thought vig killed them)?

yes. theres still a town pr in play, dont forget

[Brady1014]

So I just wasted a lot of timing making this fancy.. Probably not worth it but here's my reads to catch people up on me during those days.  This was a lot of work just to catch up the subs on me BUT HERE IT IS! Please read as I spent so damn long.. 

[Brady1014]

Also I dont have many different reads for today yet but I'll keep looking.

[Mylo13]

Yooooooo I'm back!

[Mylo13]

Jun 9, 2019 15:11:33 GMT Brady1014 said:

Okay I’m back from my long slumber, reading through what happened today just got me thinking that one of these is true



A. Only 1 scum probably is inactive as there was night kills

OR

B. Both could be hyper lurking

Now looking back at how last night played out I definately think scum got a pr vibe from yashgreninja.. Now i would say thimblepony would be most likely to kill Yash as he specifically called thimble out.. CA subbed in for him. Meanless to say pretty sure all the inactives are either lurking hard, doesnt care, or (most likely) IS at least scum.. Maybe I’m completely wrong because there are 2 scum left so litterally it could be 2 hyper lurkers.. Either way best case scenario is to lynch one of the subs (and no I’m not saying this b/c the zeep wagon rn is my cw), because Yash dying makes absolutely no sense to any of the active people at the start of the game. And doesn’t to me at all. Either someone subbed in (at any point) and decided to kill said Yash because they werent completely in the mindset of who to tr and who to power role read etc. OR this could be a not / very (either or) well thought out kill from the active players.

Also if you want the maths if 1/2 of scum are lurking or if 2/2 scum are lurking.. We have better odds than 1/2 or 0/2... This is 100% reliant on my logic being right tho.. Take this with a grain of salt

This is a decent point. Yash kill very much does not point to you imo.

[Mylo13]

Jun 9, 2019 17:14:16 GMT Dasocks~ said:

Jun 9, 2019 14:10:21 GMT commanderawesome said:

Alright so i just read whole game, and biggest problem is easily that theres the same 4 people talking, and no one else is. Reading on the first few pages, basically everyone who posted yelled town to me minus brady, so i tred derz, milo, sfl, toni and ignited. Overall I think atleast one of the people who has barely is scum 2 (ytpyro, zlerdzib), and the other is either wob or edward for overall not making half as many reads as everyone else here. dont want to count brady out though even if him being scum means he bussed, the toni lynch was just bad

Ignited fakeclaiming PR immediately screamed town to you? idk about you, but i definitely wouldn’t put it past scum to do something like this. This is a pretty weak townread, ngl

I hate the ‘they aren’t talking as much as the others so they’re scum’ argument, considering i’ve been the target of it before. It’s not very pretty. If someone has random life shit, i don’t think that should be the basis of an entire lynch/scumread.

As for wob and edward... having more/less reads isn’t a very strong foundation especially considering both were subbed in, and thus have had less time to form these reads compared to others. And having more reads doesn’t necessarily mean good - does the name stormfire-lucario ring a bell? I will concede that wob is definitely less... ‘reliable’, so to speak, and hasn’t provided much of note.
Overall, I’m going to need something more to be convinced.

The PR fakeclaim was pretty null for me, nothing either way. But I townread Ignited for other reasons.

I believe his argument was more like "Most active posters I'm townreading so the low activity ones are more sus then", correct me if I'm wrong. But still, reads *shouldn't* be that hard to make, or even just contributions in general. Wob specifically hasn't really done much in furthering the game, and my current vote hasn't either.

[Mylo13]

Jun 9, 2019 19:57:18 GMT tenzhii said:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBAmoSX7isw heres some music to listen to while reading this, it should last up until the mediocre part

I'm blue baby! Also, nice song haha. I think it's IHE's music?

edwardzealchemist said:

According to u guys if there is 1 mafia pr, we have 2 prs as well. So if ignited claimed pr, there seems to be no reason for ignited to claim at first. It seems pointless to claim on day 1 considering how we already lost a pr day 1

ignited claimed pr? and no one discussed this? am i reading this wrong???


EDIT MID POST: apparently this was discussed, but not given much attention. regardless, we should renew the arguments stemming from this claim.

This was indeed discussed, but I'm not sure anything else to say about it. Do you have anything you wanna say about it?

Dasocks~ said:

Ignited fakeclaiming PR immediately screamed town to you? idk about you, but i definitely wouldn’t put it past scum to do something like this. This is a pretty weak townread, ngl

I hate the ‘they aren’t talking as much as the others so they’re scum’ argument, considering i’ve been the target of it before. It’s not very pretty. If someone has random life shit, i don’t think that should be the basis of an entire lynch/scumread.

As for wob and edward... having more/less reads isn’t a very strong foundation especially considering both were subbed in, and thus have had less time to form these reads compared to others. And having more reads doesn’t necessarily mean good - does the name stormfire-lucario ring a bell? I will concede that wob is definitely less... ‘reliable’, so to speak, and hasn’t provided much of note.
Overall, I’m going to need something more to be convinced.

this is weird. more so not only because actions of the mafia somewhat line up with what theyre likely to do during the day, but also because after recently being subbed in dasocks is defending inactives. i know that denotation applies to me as well. i will fight you. slight sr on dasocks.

Interesting idea. I'm not exactly sure how scum!Lowen would believe to get from defending inactives tbh though? They lose possible mislynches in that pool, and with people not really that interesting in Brady they're kinda going out on a limb here in a way? 

Mylo13 said:

I agree with the first part of the statement haha, Fenrir whenever you can get to that that'd be awesome lol.

I also agree with getting something started lol. I'll go złerdzib because they were mean and made fun of me (Also bc they've added very little to the discussion and have shared approximately no reads lol)

Lynch Złerdzib

the above (somewhat) contradicts the below


Kinda I guess? But that was unfortunately most of what you'd added up until that point, which is very little haha. 

Mylo13
 







Sorry lol, was just spitballing but I get y'all's reasoning now haha.

doesnt add much, but consider it

Dasocks~ said:

Also, noticed a couple people noting how strange of a nk this was

My guess is that scum were just taking a shot in the dark in hopes of pinning the PR, since nobody’s really screamed “I’m important” as much as Spiderz has.



Don’t see any notable reads from yash himself unfortunately:(

id have to disagree with this reasoning. theres obviously already 1 or 2 leaders in play (and only one or two), so its kinda interesting that mylo hasnt died yet considering hes been the only one holding the town together, and i suspect commander awesome might be next following the trail. its also really interesting that scum went for someone active (at least, considering whos likely to be a pr) instead of a passive player. 

to further explain what differentiates trail 1 from trail 2 in the above sentence, trail 1 assumes scum wants to knock out the foundations of the town, while trail 2 assumes scum is hunting for PRs, but they've yet to go either way. (although i guess you could say yashgreninja was on trail 1, somewhat)

commanderawesome thoughts

Geez, if I'm the one having to hold town together than that's pretty sad haha, usually I'm a follower not a leader. I'm also still confused by not dying but I think we agree the most likely conclusion is PR hunting? Unless idk, someone knew I wrongly townread them and thus kept me alive haha? Also would like to politely disagree with Yash being the foundation of the town haha.

[Mylo13]

Jun 9, 2019 22:07:48 GMT tenzhii said:

Jun 9, 2019 21:45:52 GMT Brady1014 said:

Did you feel a need to comment this before reading back

Same thing goes with like, all of ignited's posts.  Also why would a nightkill be scum (unless you thought vig killed them)?

yes. theres still a town pr in play, dont forget

To be fair, as Vig I would've killed Yash haha. But yeah, probably no PR action.