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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 6, 2019 3:04:03 GMT
Why did i have to be put in the worst game lol, i would rather be in 1 or 3
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 6, 2019 4:21:09 GMT
Why did i have to be put in the worst game lol, i would rather be in 1 or 3 then leave. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 6, 2019 4:22:27 GMT
I'm sorry that you were put into a game where people are actually playing mafia.
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Post by qtball on Jun 6, 2019 4:54:27 GMT
Why did i have to be put in the worst game lol, i would rather be in 1 or 3 im hissing at how annoying you are |
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Post by qtball on Jun 6, 2019 4:54:40 GMT
Fenrir can we please sub IvanTheBest
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Post by ayia on Jun 6, 2019 5:13:57 GMT
Fenrir can we please sub IvanTheBest sub Alex while you're at it |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 5:50:25 GMT
Wtf is alex doing. Is he really giving up? Ayia I'll find you those and try to explain them better while I'm at it when I'm in a lecture where I can afford to not pay attention  |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 6, 2019 5:54:34 GMT
Fenrir can we please sub IvanTheBest sub Alex while you're at it honestly sub alex first |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 8:40:36 GMT
Also, one more thing. I've stated that nuxl is a townread of mine a couple of time. Could you try to look at why I said that and explain why you feel differently as I don't completely understand your read right now. I don't believe you've said any sort of thing. I went through your iso and double-checked. If you could direct me to the post where you said that that would be grand Alright ayia, it's largely in the first posts and thus the early game that I based my reads on. To quickly recap it, I quickly townread him for him really getting the game going at the start, and posts like these show critical thinking on things that could've been ignored. ive filtered this post to just be reasons to townread so you can respond to them. It is my general train of thought, altho there is a few things I find odd especially regarding the towncore. there's also many one-liner posts that do ask critical questions imo. I'll try to read up on why you feel duskfall is def town too, because I've seen him as the scummier of the two so far (cant quote from iso so just putting quotes) "i've never played with tbz? have you? i have a bias with all psers because all of them are idling fucks on smogon. i havent seen tbz play so no comment there. i thought his post on page 3 felt vaguely towny but i dont like how he waffled on his read on me. too early in the game for me to define anything so right now im just town hunting" "honestly tangential here but I've seen this scenario(early towncore) before on another site(bulbagarden) and guys please remember that gut reads do exist. there was also a massive reaction difference to this happening lmao. i actually think his reasonings valid; i basically asked you the question of how long you guys have played with each otehr(tbz and ayia) bc the more you play with each other the more accurate your read gets; thus making it likely that, if town, you notice the power dude is obvtowning or if scum it's easiest to just townread and move on because there's no point in picking a fight with someone who definitely should be eating townreads" besides that he's always been consistent in his playstyle and has clearly formulated his reads (imo) A final thing, from my memory it was dusk who started pushing the towncore, when did Nuxl become just as convinced about it and start pushing it too? Am I misremembering something? |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 8:43:36 GMT
ayia , why is it impossible that dusk is scum on page 19?1 Otherwise the end of this post does feel more genuine that some of their other posts between analysing possible teams and being vulnerable with the difference between PS and forums. However, Ayia did win the forum official last year re: the difficult to transfer thing2. I don't really get the tbz+nuxl team being impossible. Could you please explain this to me?3 Please explain this to me Ayia  Alright, another Ayia post after nuxl and dusk discussing possible scumteams and scumchat activity. It seems good enough to, but not much to say about it esp now that we know that derped and cudds flipped town4. Actually, nuxl duskfall since you two kinda analysed these players, do you think these flips would look badly for a particular person? In Ayia's post, they're getting defensive. I *could* see this post as frustrated town by being pushed, but in that case why target Nuxl especially Ayia. Try to analyse yourself how much it was OMGUS vs. a real read, as that's what I'm curious about. If you still stand by this push, could you summarise the reasons for it?5And that's page 20. Answering bolded statement 5, I still maintain my scum read on nuxl for several reasons. First, I said this before, but I don't like his reactions. I said this a lot yesterday so this may be redundant, but while he did have some good analysis, he often resorted to simply attacking me in order to discredit my reads. He also used simplification of the situation to make my read seem invalid. That goes back to my second reason, what my reasoning was initially: his pocketing of tbz. He seemed to be taking advantage of the fact that most people townread tbz and hoped to loot that by maintaining a similar readslist as him in order to be able to push those on said readslist. This also goes into my answer for bolded statement 3: while most people town read tbz, I think it's moreso because scum is afraid to scum read him. This is also evidenced by the fact that his interactions with almost everyone imply town, notably dusk, nuxl, fort, and even me. However, this townread isn't nearly as strong as the aforementioned on on Dusk. Moving on to my questions for you. Can you elaborate on the bolded statements 2 and 4? I think they were both in reference to something else that I'm missing. Btw I was probably a lot better last year than I am now soJust actually read through the paragraphs besides the last (yay for skimming), I'll read back on it. I think you've generally answered the points I had, but I dislike this reasoning on PS. Although I can see why scum would not want to risk SRing TBZ, I don't think this necessarily proves TBZ as town. There has to be bigger other things too to make up for some of the scummier behavior TBZ has had? |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 8:46:38 GMT
Snaq if you want an answer to that question go back and find where I explained it None of today’s content is even worth reading you guys are arguing about playstyles lik I will but you know that I've not been able to catch up completely yet  Also ayia, it'd be nice if you'd still respond to what i said but I should've read your post better from the start. I just wanted to handle the part where you asked me parts, and only skimmed over the parts where you actually explained stuff. lmk what you think about TBZ for sure though |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 8:48:33 GMT
I'll post the full reads list tonight when I can afford to catch up with the rest of the thread, will also comment more on the content on what's been said around these pages (aka that what has not been directly to me)
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Post by duskfall on Jun 6, 2019 9:38:32 GMT
You know nuxl is scum if he disapears and stops tryharding. His towniness is directly relative to how much he is in thread. I can say this and it won't stop him afking as scum. Remember this tell always. |
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Post by duskfall on Jun 6, 2019 9:41:19 GMT
lynch nuxl
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Post by duskfall on Jun 6, 2019 9:42:56 GMT
Absolute horse shit that derp wasn't subbed tbh, couldn't really be arsed with this game when we have members of town actively gamethrowing and not claiming as or, when they had so many chances. Should be a rerand tbh, since that's what usually happens in competitive mafia environment upon a gamethrow. Guessing we aren't gonna get that though.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 6, 2019 13:33:02 GMT
lol @ people wanting me subbed
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Post by ayia on Jun 6, 2019 14:41:33 GMT
Absolute horse shit that derp wasn't subbed tbh, couldn't really be arsed with this game when we have members of town actively gamethrowing and not claiming as or, when they had so many chances. Should be a rerand tbh, since that's what usually happens in competitive mafia environment upon a gamethrow. Guessing we aren't gonna get that though. I mean, even if he claimed not much would've been helped as he would've died that night anyway the most it gives us is another lynch |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 18:42:26 GMT
Aight Page 21. Let's start the final 10 pages The game is really getting more substantial at this point. The first post here that properly analyses something is Fort. Here he mentions that derped + Ayia +  (possibly dusk) could be an active scumteam. However, he also mentions that derped hasn't interacted much and has mostly just been scummy on his own... which I agree with. I've never really read fort as scum due to the way other people ganged up on him while he only had a few mediocre posts and imo has been a pretty good player otherwise. There's SirCloud saying more useless stuff. I don't think I'm liking this slot very much but still looking forward to the promised land. TBZ read Ayia + derped which I don't really get at this point still, I think I asked about this and he told me to read back, tho? Alex argues about him not being inactive when he's really not done much. I don't see why he's trying to deny this but it's pretty odd to me. Alexander489 what do you define as active? Furthermore says his reads haven't changed. Would've liked to see him comment on the actual stuff happening more, feels lazy :\ Also a post from Ayia that I don't really like. I just really don't like this page lmfao. Responds to Nuxl's one liners, but the thing I dislike most here is the "In that case, I still scumread you for changing your read on me to match tbz's". It feels a bit childish even, as if Ayia didn't consider the point and still SRs. Regardless, I'm living for the interactions Ayia has with everyone. I definitely do not see an Ayia + Nuxl team at this point, since I don't think scum!ayia would be able to pretend to be so frustrated at scum!nuxl over an orchestrated thing. Honestly, at this point I'm starting to buy into the theory of ayia being frustrated town more, although I still don't like the way they've played in places such as this. For whether Nuxl is scum based on this, let's look at his next post Nuxl attacks Ayia's SR, which seems fair enough to me as it is pretty bad. I'm kinda getting a bit of town v town vibes here where they're just distracting each other from real scum. Especially with Nuxl staying kinda calm instead of using this opportunity to just push Ayia, which would've been really easy at this point i feel. Unlynch AyiaThis is only page 21, but I typed up so much about it I decided to post this as a standalone |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 19:42:44 GMT
btw hi I'm glad you're giving me time to catch up with the game but what happened to the activity of day 1? it's like everyone disappeared gdi
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 20:48:29 GMT
starting page 22, wtf was cudds doing? lol getting tired of the nuxl vs. ayia fights. forts comments on it calling out the tunnel. also why did everyone read or at least mention ayia + derped. i understand why it wasn't excluded but realistically most people + derped was possible? then sircloud came along and at least did post some reads like he said. it's not horrible but at this point of the game i think these reads are quite weak. id really like to see you get more involved sircloud, as it doesn't feel like you influence or interact with people at all. if you're town you must want to try to push your scumreads at least Aight next page has more SirCloud things! They seem to state that most of what they have is just playermeta. Not a fan of this way of playing but sadly it's kinda null. However sircloud, why did you not want to comment on what I said? Especially when you have admitted to not really being up to date at the moment where you posted your readslist. Making a readslist once doesn't mean you will keep it forever  Nuxl also pressured SirCloud here, I honestly feel like he's just holding the game together at this point in day 1 questioning what people are saying and pointing out odd things. Whether he's scum or town look at what happened now that he's gone day 2 :I. But I do feel like he tried to reach SirCloud here and make sense and help him, or at least help himself to read him here. He consistently does this and is why I would townlean him, he's continually trying to push the game forward by trying to... connect (?) to people where he didn't have to and could probably have an easy scumgame not doing this. End of page 25 I'll use this to dive more in depth about SirCloud's reads as it's both the only thing he's really done and the only thing he really cares about. At least he's more active now. soo.... "I think ayia can lead town if people trust him and he’d do a good job, I honestly TR him and idk why everybody TRs alexander more than ayia. not sure how to feel about tbz and I don’t really agree with his readslist, duskfall’s and nuxl’s play styles confuse me so i’m neutral on them, i’m neutral on FFFF too, basically the only people I slightly SR are alexander and edjeanerations" I feel like this was pretty outdated at the point, as it looks like a part from early on in day 1. I just lack reasoning in general. There's none of it besides "can lead town" "confuse me", which disappoints me. Not much else to say about really. "I’m not saying that we should sheep him but he’s a very good player and has posted very relevant content, which is why I trust him. yours and duskfall’s playstyles confuse me because sometimes you literally just talk like if you were in DMs and talk about stuff that isn’t really relevant to the game, my alexander read comes from the fact that most of the stuff he posted is just one single line, ps-mafia.proboards.com/user/861/recent?page=2 edj is kind of rvs/gut feeling and i’d like to see more posts from him, then again I just said “slightly SR” ." Aight, here's some more. I can see the Ayia TR now, although I'd like to see you think about some of the other points made about Ayia in this thread sircloud. It feels like you're playing the game a bit in your own universe. As if you're spectating without actually interacting with people at this point. The Alex read is fair enough, although I feel like it comes from the mediocre content within those one lines, as one lines can still provide good questions / content. I don't really like how he doesn't want to explain Edje further. It seems as if he goes on the defensive by pointing out he said "slightly SR", although that's not too big. I would still like to see him analyse what about Edje's few posts pinged him as scum as it read as town trying to get into the game to me. If anything, what I would find odd about Edje is that he never followed up on this townie attitude and instead disappeared again. Finally Sir, you were accusing Alex over his lynch on derped. Why do you find the derped lynch scummy per se? I agree that it was an easy lynch for scum to have happen, but I also completely understand why he was lynched and would probably have done the same thing. |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 20:50:29 GMT
Also isn't the deadline tomorrow? If anyone's here and wants to talk or comment please do because I feel like this game isn't going anywhere right now
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 20:53:22 GMT
Also isn't the deadline tomorrow? If anyone's here and wants to talk or comment please do because I feel like this game isn't going anywhere right now Sugg topic: what does the cuddleszz flip tell us? I've mostly ignored what he said while reading back as he didn't interact much and from what I read I honestly didn't truly understand what was going on to him sometimes. But I don't think anyone's really talked about this so I'd like to hear your thoughts |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Jun 6, 2019 21:11:25 GMT
DD your scumreads are noted upon your flip which imo will be town and can you use your lynch to vote your scumreads if you truly believe they are scum? you cant be unsure here which of the two are scum so just pick one to vote and we can get information from the rest Interesting I find this post just after asking the thing above. Could this be a reason for a kill? |
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Post by sircloud on Jun 6, 2019 21:17:05 GMT
starting page 22, wtf was cudds doing? lol getting tired of the nuxl vs. ayia fights. forts comments on it calling out the tunnel. also why did everyone read or at least mention ayia + derped. i understand why it wasn't excluded but realistically most people + derped was possible? then sircloud came along and at least did post some reads like he said. it's not horrible but at this point of the game i think these reads are quite weak. id really like to see you get more involved sircloud , as it doesn't feel like you influence or interact with people at all. if you're town you must want to try to push your scumreads at least Aight next page has more SirCloud things! They seem to state that most of what they have is just playermeta. Not a fan of this way of playing but sadly it's kinda null. However sircloud , why did you not want to comment on what I said? Especially when you have admitted to not really being up to date at the moment where you posted your readslist. Making a readslist once doesn't mean you will keep it forever Nuxl also pressured SirCloud here, I honestly feel like he's just holding the game together at this point in day 1 questioning what people are saying and pointing out odd things. Whether he's scum or town look at what happened now that he's gone day 2 :I. But I do feel like he tried to reach SirCloud here and make sense and help him, or at least help himself to read him here. He consistently does this and is why I would townlean him, he's continually trying to push the game forward by trying to... connect (?) to people where he didn't have to and could probably have an easy scumgame not doing this. End of page 25 I'll use this to dive more in depth about SirCloud's reads as it's both the only thing he's really done and the only thing he really cares about. At least he's more active now. soo.... "I think ayia can lead town if people trust him and he’d do a good job, I honestly TR him and idk why everybody TRs alexander more than ayia. not sure how to feel about tbz and I don’t really agree with his readslist, duskfall’s and nuxl’s play styles confuse me so i’m neutral on them, i’m neutral on FFFF too, basically the only people I slightly SR are alexander and edjeanerations" I feel like this was pretty outdated at the point, as it looks like a part from early on in day 1. I just lack reasoning in general. There's none of it besides "can lead town" "confuse me", which disappoints me. Not much else to say about really. "I’m not saying that we should sheep him but he’s a very good player and has posted very relevant content, which is why I trust him. yours and duskfall’s playstyles confuse me because sometimes you literally just talk like if you were in DMs and talk about stuff that isn’t really relevant to the game, my alexander read comes from the fact that most of the stuff he posted is just one single line, ps-mafia.proboards.com/user/861/recent?page=2 edj is kind of rvs/gut feeling and i’d like to see more posts from him, then again I just said “slightly SR” ." Aight, here's some more. I can see the Ayia TR now, although I'd like to see you think about some of the other points made about Ayia in this thread sircloud. It feels like you're playing the game a bit in your own universe. As if you're spectating without actually interacting with people at this point. The Alex read is fair enough, although I feel like it comes from the mediocre content within those one lines, as one lines can still provide good questions / content. I don't really like how he doesn't want to explain Edje further. It seems as if he goes on the defensive by pointing out he said "slightly SR", although that's not too big. I would still like to see him analyse what about Edje's few posts pinged him as scum as it read as town trying to get into the game to me. If anything, what I would find odd about Edje is that he never followed up on this townie attitude and instead disappeared again. Finally Sir, you were accusing Alex over his lynch on derped. Why do you find the derped lynch scummy per se? I agree that it was an easy lynch for scum to have happen, but I also completely understand why he was lynched and would probably have done the same thing. I didn’t accuse alex just because he lynched derp and I don’t think the derped lynch in itself is scummy, however, I honestly find it weird that somebody would get lynched d1 by 5 town and out of all the people who lynched derped I think alex is the most likely, I’ve already explained why. I don’t know why out of all the points i’ve made against alex you chose the one that looks like the weakest and took it out of context. |
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Post by sircloud on Jun 6, 2019 21:21:26 GMT
starting page 22, wtf was cudds doing? lol getting tired of the nuxl vs. ayia fights. forts comments on it calling out the tunnel. also why did everyone read or at least mention ayia + derped. i understand why it wasn't excluded but realistically most people + derped was possible? then sircloud came along and at least did post some reads like he said. it's not horrible but at this point of the game i think these reads are quite weak. id really like to see you get more involved sircloud , as it doesn't feel like you influence or interact with people at all. if you're town you must want to try to push your scumreads at least Aight next page has more SirCloud things! They seem to state that most of what they have is just playermeta. Not a fan of this way of playing but sadly it's kinda null. However sircloud , why did you not want to comment on what I said? Especially when you have admitted to not really being up to date at the moment where you posted your readslist. Making a readslist once doesn't mean you will keep it forever Nuxl also pressured SirCloud here, I honestly feel like he's just holding the game together at this point in day 1 questioning what people are saying and pointing out odd things. Whether he's scum or town look at what happened now that he's gone day 2 :I. But I do feel like he tried to reach SirCloud here and make sense and help him, or at least help himself to read him here. He consistently does this and is why I would townlean him, he's continually trying to push the game forward by trying to... connect (?) to people where he didn't have to and could probably have an easy scumgame not doing this. End of page 25 I'll use this to dive more in depth about SirCloud's reads as it's both the only thing he's really done and the only thing he really cares about. At least he's more active now. soo.... "I think ayia can lead town if people trust him and he’d do a good job, I honestly TR him and idk why everybody TRs alexander more than ayia. not sure how to feel about tbz and I don’t really agree with his readslist, duskfall’s and nuxl’s play styles confuse me so i’m neutral on them, i’m neutral on FFFF too, basically the only people I slightly SR are alexander and edjeanerations" I feel like this was pretty outdated at the point, as it looks like a part from early on in day 1. I just lack reasoning in general. There's none of it besides "can lead town" "confuse me", which disappoints me. Not much else to say about really. "I’m not saying that we should sheep him but he’s a very good player and has posted very relevant content, which is why I trust him. yours and duskfall’s playstyles confuse me because sometimes you literally just talk like if you were in DMs and talk about stuff that isn’t really relevant to the game, my alexander read comes from the fact that most of the stuff he posted is just one single line, ps-mafia.proboards.com/user/861/recent?page=2 edj is kind of rvs/gut feeling and i’d like to see more posts from him, then again I just said “slightly SR” ." Aight, here's some more. I can see the Ayia TR now, although I'd like to see you think about some of the other points made about Ayia in this thread sircloud. It feels like you're playing the game a bit in your own universe. As if you're spectating without actually interacting with people at this point. The Alex read is fair enough, although I feel like it comes from the mediocre content within those one lines, as one lines can still provide good questions / content. I don't really like how he doesn't want to explain Edje further. It seems as if he goes on the defensive by pointing out he said "slightly SR", although that's not too big. I would still like to see him analyse what about Edje's few posts pinged him as scum as it read as town trying to get into the game to me. If anything, what I would find odd about Edje is that he never followed up on this townie attitude and instead disappeared again. Finally Sir, you were accusing Alex over his lynch on derped. Why do you find the derped lynch scummy per se? I agree that it was an easy lynch for scum to have happen, but I also completely understand why he was lynched and would probably have done the same thing. I didn’t accuse alex just because he lynched derp and I don’t think the derped lynch in itself is scummy, however, I honestly find it weird that somebody would get lynched d1 by 5 town and out of all the people who lynched derped I think alex is the most likely, I’ve already explained why. I don’t know why out of all the points i’ve made against alex you chose the one that looks like the weakest and took it out of context. most likely to be scum* |
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