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Post by ZestOfLife on Jun 10, 2019 15:16:09 GMT
Nice my quotes got messed up.
I'm not getting of sir unless he bleeds town.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 10, 2019 17:43:40 GMT
OK I have not posted anything real yet, so I'm critically reading the entire thing to catch up. Here's my comments along the way (started out looking at flips, then read it) Don't ask me how long this took. Just don't.  (Schia's 3 questions, he's dead but might as well answer them) 1) I've played a ton of mafia for the past 6 months, im still not that good at it. 2) I'm making this post as im reading, will answer this after reading 3) I kinda got forceadded in here by saying I'd consider subbing in. Anyway, the situation with subs seems to bad, so I'm staying in for the sake of Fenrir and FtF not having to go through more trouble to save this. Won't be joining any of the other event because no interest in the themes or game 2/3 and no time for game 4/5. Given Zol/Meower's entry convo I doubt they will be scum together, still confirming whether it Is s/t or t/t. I see gimm1ck as a very careful player, and he'd just never put the spotlight on his partners like that. As far as I'm concerned, zol + meower can be exclused as the scumteam forever from this. meower9lives 's plays early seem like the most striking to me. The early , ungrounded SR on zol was bad indeed. Then he apologised, reconsidered his plays and moved on to different people. Even though you could argue that anyone could just say "I'm being SRed so I'm changing my reads/playstyle", I feel like scum would simply not do this, and the way he did it felt genuine. So Meower is very much town to me atm. (this moment being end of page 6) ZestOfLife referring to Gimm1ck's Newbie Game gameplay, is 1) exactly what I was thinking when I read gimm1ck's posts 2) very much positive for town, and I see this as something that would bring very little towncred as a bus. So I see ZoL + Meower as 2 town. Page 9: ®➕➕ Shifted the entire D1 lynch from Town to Mafia. You have received another one of Sir Mister's Green Stamps (aka TR), congrats. The poem exchange was lovely btw. Then there is the Freddykyogre wagon I'd like to address. Neo+zorquax+jordan were voting him, and then zorquax and Neo went off after scor mentioned how he thought the wagon looked scummy. After that, people started getting a TR on Freddy? Why? Now we've seen jordan, a seemingly universal SR of the time, flip town. Idk about Zorquax, but this looks like mafia had 0 influence on freddy's wagon building up, and Scor having all of the influence on the wagon disbanding. Looking at scor + freddy as more likely partners because of this. So to summerise, ZoL+Neo+Meower look like a town core to me. I can understand zol's vote on me given the amount of clear town here, and the 0 input on iron's part. I'd be very surprised to see 0 of the new players flip scum here (freddy/animal/mike). As the person who has Iron's rolepm, I can confirm you that he was town (y). I also have a general sl toward scorchingtheaph, but that's mostly gut. (+ the "freddy's wagon is scum" thing) |
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 10, 2019 17:47:40 GMT
Edit of last post because of failed bold attempt:
Lynch Freddy Kyogre
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 10, 2019 17:50:34 GMT
OK I actually edited it in my stupidity, but the original post was this: "I'm sorry for my inconsintency in the tags, but I think I mentioned everyone anyway. Also, lynch freddykyogre" |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 10, 2019 22:42:12 GMT
Then there is the Freddykyogre wagon I'd like to address. Neo+zorquax+jordan were voting him, and then zorquax and Neo went off after scor mentioned how he thought the wagon looked scummy. After that, people started getting a TR on Freddy? Why? Now we've seen jordan, a seemingly universal SR of the time, flip town. Idk about Zorquax, but this looks like mafia had 0 influence on freddy's wagon building up, and Scor having all of the influence on the wagon disbanding. Looking at scor + freddy as more likely partners because of this. If I was scum with freddy, that would've been an extremely easy bus, based off of interaction with Gimm1ck. If you read freddy's iso though, he is noob town. His defense of lynching meower, claiming it was a "reciprocating vote" is quite reasonable from his perspective. Do you actually think that scum!me would put my neck on the line to defend a scum partner? That is suicidal scum team play because if either us were to flips scum, the other would obviously be the next on the chopping block. |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 10, 2019 22:43:56 GMT
(ill read closer after im done w/ league for the night) You fell asleep with your client still open, didn't you? |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 10, 2019 22:44:37 GMT
ok im done pissing around analyzing kills once again meower is the only user who had anything to gain from the n1 schia kill /mafia unlynch sir mister
/mafia lynch meower9livesI cannot believe you would think i'd hardbus Gimm1ck like that, or point out that slip considering how likely I was to get lynched... probably the last time im going to be saying this : gimm1ck did not get lynched because you pointed out any sort of nonexistent slip, he attempted to pocket c7 and died because his inability to explain a read which was disproved when he gave "reason" (at least that was the reason i assume schia lynched him for and i can confidently say that was my reasoning), and zol was on him for reasons still unknown(I have not and will not read any game that doesn't pertain to this current one so i refuse to acknowledge whatever was typed in regards to that) Also the fact that you are so hung up on the fact that Schiavetto died and trying to use it to find a way to blame me is kind of ridiculous. you brought up the possibility of c7 killing him as a fearkill yesterday? then once again when i bring evidence with other posts you can do nothing but deflect ok im done pissing around analyzing kills once again meower is the only user who had anything to gain from the n1 schia kill /mafia unlynch sir mister
/mafia lynch meower9livesWat You think gimm1ck bussed meower? yes Out of all the inactives, I think he has a high scum equity based on his enterance. Freddy was on my radar too, but I think their recent posts seem like town reasoning to me. This means that your ideal lynchpool would be 9lives/You/Me/ZoL/Quax. Are you and/or ZoL going to explain the Sir Mister lynch or…? 0 idea what this log means or what your trying to communicate with this @sccorchingtheaph is there anyway to know scum prs based on the town stuff because im still confused about setup a bit |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 10, 2019 22:44:51 GMT
EBWOP *took an extended blink
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 10, 2019 22:49:21 GMT
@sccorchingtheaph is there anyway to know scum prs based on the town stuff because im still confused about setup a bit We only know the number (two), but they are randomized independently. I am not confident on scum x scum cross D1. Gimm1ck's vote on Meower as distancing could be reasonable, but Meower trying to point out a slip from Gimm1ck in order to save himself at the end of the day doesn't come off as partner interaction. |
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Post by freddykyogre on Jun 10, 2019 22:51:33 GMT
"Then there is the Freddykyogre wagon I'd like to address. Neo+zorquax+jordan were voting him, and then zorquax and Neo went off after scor mentioned how he thought the wagon looked scummy. After that, people started getting a TR on Freddy? Why? Now we've seen jordan, a seemingly universal SR of the time, flip town. Idk about Zorquax, but this looks like mafia had 0 influence on freddy's wagon building up, and Scor having all of the influence on the wagon disbanding. Looking at scor + freddy as more likely partners because of this. So to summerise, ZoL+Neo+Meower look like a town core to me. I can understand zol's vote on me given the amount of clear town here, and the 0 input on iron's part. I'd be very surprised to see 0 of the new players flip scum here (freddy/animal/mike). As the person who has Iron's rolepm, I can confirm you that he was town (y). I also have a general sl toward scorchingtheaph, but that's mostly gut. (+ the "freddy's wagon is scum" thing) " So Mister's "evidence" incriminating me is about something I didn't even do, and based off of a poor assumption that all of ZoL + Neo + Meower is clean, despite the fact that that is coming under a bit of fire. its also only off of a gut feeling, which evidently is warranting enough to stretch his attack towards me. If you think scor is mafia, and my only connection to mafia is scor and being new, then why are you accusing me instead of Scor? Shouldn't you go for the "more experienced" and thus more dangerous mafia rather than the newbie? This accusation just makes no sense. this is a really poor accusation, along with a self claim of being town. this looks a lot like someone trying to get an easy target due to "how much i have against me" while claiming town. the logic I see doesn't add up, and for that I am now suspicious of Sir Mister for possibly attempting to pin blame, but I dont want to vote lynch because I am not certain and dont want a possible misled townie out. want to wait for more evidence / other people's takes on this. Yes, I am basically only popping into the thread to defend myself, but thats because as I keep saying im not good enough to contribute much except what I can from the accusations on me, because I at least know what I am. |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 10, 2019 22:52:45 GMT
@sccorchingtheaph is there anyway to know scum prs based on the town stuff because im still confused about setup a bit We only know the number (two), but they are randomized independently. I am not confident on scum x scum cross D1. Gimm1ck's vote on Meower as distancing could be reasonable, but Meower trying to point out a slip from Gimm1ck in order to save himself at the end of the day doesn't come off as partner interaction. then shouldn't you have game confirmed for you whats the hold up freddykyogre - You tr this ironrazorwhip - ? meower9lives - you tr this miketheentei - ? Neo - confirmed by cop pkmsilver - ? ❓ (ScorrchingTheaph) ZestOfLife - you tr this ❗ (Zorquax) - you don't sr this |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 10, 2019 23:02:06 GMT
then shouldn't you have game confirmed for you whats the hold up Lack of self confidence in my reads, especially after Xbad flip. |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 10, 2019 23:03:20 GMT
then shouldn't you have game confirmed for you whats the hold up Lack of self confidence in my reads, especially after Xbad flip. stop being a bitch and let your nuts hang |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 10, 2019 23:12:45 GMT
OK I have not posted anything real yet, so I'm critically reading the entire thing to catch up. Here's my comments along the way (started out looking at flips, then read it) Don't ask me how long this took. Just don't. (Schia's 3 questions, he's dead but might as well answer them) 1) I've played a ton of mafia for the past 6 months, im still not that good at it. 2) I'm making this post as im reading, will answer this after reading 3) I kinda got forceadded in here by saying I'd consider subbing in. Anyway, the situation with subs seems to bad, so I'm staying in for the sake of Fenrir and FtF not having to go through more trouble to save this. Won't be joining any of the other event because no interest in the themes or game 2/3 and no time for game 4/5. I see gimm1ck as a very careful player, and he'd just never put the spotlight on his partners like that. As far as I'm concerned, zol + meower can be exclused as the scumteam forever from this. meower9lives 's plays early seem like the most striking to me. The early , ungrounded SR on zol was bad indeed. Then he apologised, reconsidered his plays and moved on to different people. Even though you could argue that anyone could just say "I'm being SRed so I'm changing my reads/playstyle", I feel like scum would simply not do this, and the way he did it felt genuine. So Meower is very much town to me atm. (this moment being end of page 6) ZestOfLife referring to Gimm1ck's Newbie Game gameplay, is 1) exactly what I was thinking when I read gimm1ck's posts 2) very much positive for town, and I see this as something that would bring very little towncred as a bus. ( how do you get towncred by referring to different games in order to scumread someone? gimm1ck is playing with different players, a different theme, a different role, etc. this in itself isn't something to be praising especially when looking at zols gameplay these past 2 days BUT agree to disagree hes gonna be parked on you because he doesn't want to talk to nyone alive in game)So I see ZoL + Meower as 2 town. [x] doubtPage 9: ®➕➕ Shifted the entire D1 lynch from Town to Mafia. You have received another one of Sir Mister's Green Stamps (aka TR), congrats. (you tr a cop inspect)The poem exchange was lovely btw. Then there is the Freddykyogre wagon I'd like to address. Neo+zorquax+jordan were voting him, and then zorquax and Neo went off after scor mentioned how he thought the wagon looked scummy. (the wagon was iffy because xand and zorquax both equally scummy got on the lynch)After that, people started getting a TR on Freddy? Why? Now we've seen jordan, a seemingly universal SR of the time, flip town. Idk about Zorquax, but this looks like mafia had 0 influence on freddy's wagon building up, and Scor having all of the influence on the wagon disbanding. ( see above - tldr; scorch bringing attention to freddy was less about him and more about his read on xandro and zorquax being scummy)Looking at scor + freddy as more likely partners because of this. So to summerise, ZoL+Neo+Meower look like a town core to me. I can understand zol's vote on me given the amount of clear town here, and the 0 input on iron's part. ( can you explain his read because you and him are the only 2 who know why hes lynching you)I'd be very surprised to see 0 of the new players flip scum here (freddy/animal/mike). (same)As the person who has Iron's rolepm, I can confirm you that he was town (y). I also have a general sl toward scorchingtheaph, but that's mostly gut. (+ the "freddy's wagon is scum" thing) |
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Post by ❗ on Jun 10, 2019 23:15:18 GMT
Then there is the Freddykyogre wagon I'd like to address. Neo+zorquax+jordan were voting him, and then zorquax and Neo went off after scor mentioned how he thought the wagon looked scummy. After that, people started getting a TR on Freddy? Why? Now we've seen jordan, a seemingly universal SR of the time, flip town. Idk about Zorquax, but this looks like mafia had 0 influence on freddy's wagon building up, and Scor having all of the influence on the wagon disbanding. Looking at scor + freddy as more likely partners because of this. If I was scum with freddy, that would've been an extremely easy bus, based off of interaction with Gimm1ck. If you read freddy's iso though, he is noob town. His defense of lynching meower, claiming it was a "reciprocating vote" is quite reasonable from his perspective. Do you actually think that scum!me would put my neck on the line to defend a scum partner? That is suicidal scum team play because if either us were to flips scum, the other would obviously be the next on the chopping block. i seriously don't like him saying "suicidal scum play" as if he'd never do such a thing as scum. I'm not saying it on the condition that freddy flips scum, I'm saying that him saying the phrase seems scummy for some reason. i also just realized that c7 dying means there is a mafia role cop 100% there would be no other reason for him to die |
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Post by ❗ on Jun 10, 2019 23:18:19 GMT
SPOILER: Click to show
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 10, 2019 23:20:42 GMT
i also just realized that c7 dying means there is a mafia role cop 100% there would be no other reason for him to die Here, have another reason to sr me more. C7 was obvious inspection role since D1 when he posted: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/56223/thread |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 10, 2019 23:23:56 GMT
obvious enough for scum to prioritize schia over him n1?
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 10, 2019 23:48:38 GMT
obvious enough for scum to prioritize schia over him n1? I guess they could've copped C7 N1 then. |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 11, 2019 5:22:23 GMT
probably but real shit its like 17 hrs from dl and we have accomplished a grand total of 0 this day godbless the deflectors and when people get pressed they disappear
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 11, 2019 5:25:47 GMT
bro these pink stars are hitting different
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meower9lives
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 11, 2019 12:08:45 GMT
I cannot believe you would think i'd hardbus Gimm1ck like that, or point out that slip considering how likely I was to get lynched... probably the last time im going to be saying this : gimm1ck did not get lynched because you pointed out any sort of nonexistent slip, he attempted to pocket c7 and died because his inability to explain a read which was disproved when he gave "reason" (at least that was the reason i assume schia lynched him for and i can confidently say that was my reasoning), and zol was on him for reasons still unknown(I have not and will not read any game that doesn't pertain to this current one so i refuse to acknowledge whatever was typed in regards to that) Also the fact that you are so hung up on the fact that Schiavetto died and trying to use it to find a way to blame me is kind of ridiculous. you brought up the possibility of c7 killing him as a fearkill yesterday? then once again when i bring evidence with other posts you can do nothing but deflect Wat You think gimm1ck bussed meower? yes 0 idea what this log means or what your trying to communicate with this @sccorchingtheaph is there anyway to know scum prs based on the town stuff because im still confused about setup a bit A few things you need to know. 1: What he said was absolutely a slip 2: Do you think Gimm1ck and I would bus each other day 1 3: You are absolutely ignoring lynches, and only taking into account night deaths, this whole game your reads have been being awful, but day 1 you were smart last second. |
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 11, 2019 12:18:21 GMT
Also I asked for clarification, I didn't even try to accuse C7 of fearkilling.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 11, 2019 12:19:10 GMT
You have warped that into an absolutely awful reason to lynch me.
On top of that, why didn't you lynch me day 2 if all of the shit reasons you are lynching me now were from day 1.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 11, 2019 16:42:35 GMT
1 thing I want to clarify is that I voted Freddy mostly because of the way his wagon disbanded. I just felt like it wouldn't happen on a town wagon.
Now, I have given the situation some more thought, and I'm going from my gutread to a vote with reason.
Again, I would find it very hard to believe if 0 of the new players flipped red.
However, the kill on C7 is something I don't see a pair of 2 new players do.
He didn't really have strong pushes, or tons of towncred like Zol and Neo did/do.
C7 was dangerous because he was a PR (which wasn't that clear imo). I'm sure noobs would miss that, and go for the obvtown.
Earlier I said I thought at least 1 of them would flip scum, I'm now convinced exactly 1 of them will flip mafia.
For this reason, + my initial TRs, I see scum as scor/zorquax + mike/freddy/animal.
As the humble and mediocre player I am, I'm also going to take Neo's reads into consideration.
So I'm going for the most likely scumslot:
Unlynch Freddy, Lynch Zorquax (!)
PS: I will be active for another 4-5 hours before going to bed, ask/tell me stuff now or this will be the last you hear of me for the rest of the day.
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