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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 17, 2019 18:27:48 GMT
Lynch ? (Scor)
Here's some motivation to respond to the question.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 17, 2019 20:42:59 GMT
It looked like rvs at first, and then people followed onto Animal (which I believe you wouldn't have expected). It was not rvs; I already said this. What makes you say that you believe that I would not have expected people to lynch Midwife? Can you please share your reasoning for that lynch? Could've sworn I already did Scum is low testosterone so I’m dead next zorq scorch you know what to do Let's look at the user animalmidwife. Their username consists of the words "animal" and "midwife" combined. A midwife is typically a woman. Women do not have statistically high testosterone levels. This means animalmidwife is low testosterone and fits the bill of scum that nightkilled NeoNarut0®++.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 17, 2019 20:43:21 GMT
I would like to hear ?s reasoning for lynching animal POE lead me to believe that midwife was the best lynch. By obfuscating my reasoning, I was hoping to see if a potential scumbuddy would take the bait into chainsaw lynching me, or taking a hard defense of midwife. Unfortunately, no one took the bait, probably because scum didn't want to defend an AFK slot.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 17, 2019 20:50:33 GMT
gonna check vote paterns later. rn gut would say quacker last scum, but gotta reread
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Post by ❗ on Jun 17, 2019 21:17:40 GMT
Yes reread, and use your deductive reasoning, if town, to find out that I'm not scum. @floooood I also want your explanation as to why Freddykyogre was nightkilled over any other person. They were not on the Mafia lynch. Also, if Meower9lives is Not Mafia that means Theaph was the only person who was on the gimm1ck wagon. Hard to believe... I am generating a scumread on you, and I have given my reasons first. But of course I will not lynch because discussion is essential to a town victory, not lynching immediately.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 17, 2019 21:26:22 GMT
My current subject to change reads Sir Mister: Town ZoL: Slight town: could’ve been scum on gimm1ck for towncred without actually expecting him to be lynched ?: Slight Town: Started Lynch on scum yday, satisfactory answers to questions. !: Slight scum: Mostly PoE, trying really hard to spark discussion about nightkill, wasn’t on either scum lynch (tried to get on animal but that could’ve just been trying not to get scumread for not being on. In terms of the freddy nightkill, I feel like it’s something ! or ZOL would do.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 18, 2019 14:54:52 GMT
Lynch ! Poe
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 18, 2019 15:02:55 GMT
Scum is low testosterone so I’m dead next zorq scorch you know what to do Let's look at the user animalmidwife. Their username consists of the words "animal" and "midwife" combined. A midwife is typically a woman. Women do not have statistically high testosterone levels. This means animalmidwife is low testosterone and fits the bill of scum that nightkilled NeoNarut0®++. Lynch animalmidwifeI did not realise at all how Neo was referring to Animalmidwife here... I can respect that continuing Neo's legacy. I wonder if ❗ got this reference, and chose not to do anything with it until day end. But yes poe does lead to him... so yeah Unlynch ?/Scor, Lynch !/Zorquax
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Post by ZestOfLife on Jun 18, 2019 15:18:23 GMT
I forget about this game lol
@sir Mister do you think scorrching would ever just bus their partner like that?
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Post by ZestOfLife on Jun 18, 2019 15:21:04 GMT
My current subject to change reads Sir Mister: Town ZoL: Slight town: could’ve been scum on gimm1ck for towncred without actually expecting him to be lynched ?: Slight Town: Started Lynch on scum yday, satisfactory answers to questions. !: Slight scum: Mostly PoE, trying really hard to spark discussion about nightkill, wasn’t on either scum lynch (tried to get on animal but that could’ve just been trying not to get scumread for not being on. In terms of the freddy nightkill, I feel like it’s something ! or ZOL would do. You think I'll NK an obscure slot?
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 18, 2019 15:29:18 GMT
I have no idea why anyone would kill that slot, but I figured you might think of some sort of strategy for it. Overall I see wagons as more important read wise than kills.
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Post by Sir Mister on Jun 18, 2019 16:22:26 GMT
I forget about this game lol @sir Mister do you think scorrching would ever just bus their partner like that? What I thought was Neo said the testosterone thing as a way of taunting mafia. Like "scum has no balls, fight me". I didn't realise the implication of Neo hinting at the player with a female-indicating username, and him telling scor and zorq to lynch them after his death. How I saw it, I thought Scor made a Day 4 joke RVS, rather than actually following Neo's reads. As partners, this couldve been done as weak distancing, and with the assumption that it wouldn't build an actual wagon. After I saw that, and I had the "animalmidwife/freddykyogre = 1 town + 1 mafia" in mind, I wanted scor to put his money where his mouth was and followed in that lynch. Kinda expected him to come up with some bs to shift the wagon, ngl. So, yes. Yes I did think scorrching would just bus their partner like that. Now that I see that their really was a reason for his vote there, I can much more easily see how his plays make sense as town. Freddy x scor is also off the table, so yeah. I have been convinced that scor is town.
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Post by ❗ on Jun 18, 2019 19:09:31 GMT
Let's look at the user animalmidwife. Their username consists of the words "animal" and "midwife" combined. A midwife is typically a woman. Women do not have statistically high testosterone levels. This means animalmidwife is low testosterone and fits the bill of scum that nightkilled NeoNarut0®++. Lynch animalmidwifeI did not realise at all how Neo was referring to Animalmidwife here... I can respect that continuing Neo's legacy. I wonder if ❗ got this reference, and chose not to do anything with it until day end. But yes poe does lead to him... so yeah Unlynch ?/Scor, Lynch !/ZorquaxThere was no reference here- Theaph himself just said that it was used to bait the scumpartner if he was scum. But i mean if u wanna believe that sure go ahead I forget about this game lol @sir Mister do you think scorrching would ever just bus their partner like that? What I thought was Neo said the testosterone thing as a way of taunting mafia. Like "scum has no balls, fight me". I didn't realise the implication of Neo hinting at the player with a female-indicating username, and him telling scor and zorq to lynch them after his death. How I saw it, I thought Scor made a Day 4 joke RVS, rather than actually following Neo's reads. As partners, this couldve been done as weak distancing, and with the assumption that it wouldn't build an actual wagon. After I saw that, and I had the "animalmidwife/freddykyogre = 1 town + 1 mafia" in mind, I wanted scor to put his money where his mouth was and followed in that lynch. Kinda expected him to come up with some bs to shift the wagon, ngl. So, yes. Yes I did think scorrching would just bus their partner like that. Now that I see that their really was a reason for his vote there, I can much more easily see how his plays make sense as town. Freddy x scor is also off the table, so yeah. I have been convinced that scor is town. Yet again, not a reference. Theaph made an independent read and said that he was going to use wagonomics in the instance of the lurker lynch. And you're the one saying "animalmidwife / freddy " is 1 town + 1 mafia which means scum is following that read? You also previously mentioned that "everyone TRed freddy", even though he wasnt really mentioned as a hard tr by anyone but theaph. Basically going off your false misinterpretation of who's a uni tr and who's not led you to the kill.. Additionally if scorrchingtheaph is town, he would have probably be nked for starting the wagon. Sir Mister starts the day off believing that the wagon was a bus, and therefore he wasn't nked because Sir Mister planned to question / pressure him, but now that Theaph gave a valid answer, Sir Mister now does a complete 180 on his read, and theaph will probably be nked tonight. (Although now that I mention it, maybe not)?!? Also i want everyone to give their reads as to who is scum if I were to flip town
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 18, 2019 19:44:15 GMT
In the off chance that ! Flips town, id say ?
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Post by ❗ on Jun 18, 2019 20:37:52 GMT
In the off chance that ! Flips town, id say ? ?...?
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 18, 2019 21:57:40 GMT
I did not realise at all how Neo was referring to Animalmidwife here... I can respect that continuing Neo's legacy. Neo said that before midwife even subbed in, big guy. What I thought was Neo said the testosterone thing as a way of taunting mafia. Like "scum has no balls, fight me". I didn't realise the implication of Neo hinting at the player with a female-indicating username, and him telling scor and zorq to lynch them after his death. How I saw it, I thought Scor made a Day 4 joke RVS, rather than actually following Neo's reads. As partners, this couldve been done as weak distancing, and with the assumption that it wouldn't build an actual wagon. After I saw that, and I had the "animalmidwife/freddykyogre = 1 town + 1 mafia" in mind, I wanted scor to put his money where his mouth was and followed in that lynch. Kinda expected him to come up with some bs to shift the wagon, ngl. So, yes. Yes I did think scorrching would just bus their partner like that. Now that I see that their really was a reason for his vote there, I can much more easily see how his plays make sense as town. Freddy x scor is also off the table, so yeah. I have been convinced that scor is town. All of the above is nullified because you are making assuptions off of a falsehood.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 18, 2019 22:23:07 GMT
Yes reread, and use your deductive reasoning, if town, to find out that I'm not scum. @floooood I also want your explanation as to why Freddykyogre was nightkilled over any other person. They were not on the Mafia lynch. Also, if Meower9lives is Not Mafia that means Theaph was the only person who was on the gimm1ck wagon. Hard to believe... I am generating a scumread on you, and I have given my reasons first. But of course I will not lynch because discussion is essential to a town victory, not lynching immediately. Hi generating a scumread on you, I'm ScorrchingTheaph. You were on neither scum wagon (hammer on midwife doesn't count), and the N1 NK on Schia seems like it would come from you, as you were the only player voting him, even if it was a WIFOM vote. I have to say though, your AtE is what rubs me the wrong way, which is why I said gut read. seeing how 0 post lurker flipped doctor, i could care less about this game XD lynch animalmidwife I think freddy NK might mean someone bussed or someone wanted it to look like someone bussed. Another theory is that everyone who is alive is not SRing the correct slot.It's interesting to note that two of the people on the D1 scum lynch are still alive.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jun 18, 2019 22:35:38 GMT
Yet again, not a reference. Theaph made an independent read and said that he was going to use wagonomics in the instance of the lurker lynch. And you're the one saying "animalmidwife / freddy " is 1 town + 1 mafia which means scum is following that read? You also previously mentioned that "everyone TRed freddy", even though he wasnt really mentioned as a hard tr by anyone but theaph. Basically going off your false misinterpretation of who's a uni tr and who's not led you to the kill.. Additionally if scorrchingtheaph is town, he would have probably be nked for starting the wagon. Sir Mister starts the day off believing that the wagon was a bus, and therefore he wasn't nked because Sir Mister planned to question / pressure him, but now that Theaph gave a valid answer, Sir Mister now does a complete 180 on his read, and theaph will probably be nked tonight. (Although now that I mention it, maybe not)?!? Also i want everyone to give their reads as to who is scum if I were to flip town Very hot take. You make a good point about freddy because I don't think anyone besides me actually stated a TR on him. What do you think about ZoL being alive after being the 1st lynch D1 on Gimm1ck? If today leads to town lynched, then wouldn't the play be scum idle into MYLO rather than LYLO?
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Post by ❗ on Jun 19, 2019 0:04:15 GMT
Yes reread, and use your deductive reasoning, if town, to find out that I'm not scum. @floooood I also want your explanation as to why Freddykyogre was nightkilled over any other person. They were not on the Mafia lynch. Also, if Meower9lives is Not Mafia that means Theaph was the only person who was on the gimm1ck wagon. Hard to believe... I am generating a scumread on you, and I have given my reasons first. But of course I will not lynch because discussion is essential to a town victory, not lynching immediately. Hi generating a scumread on you, I'm ScorrchingTheaph. You were on neither scum wagon (hammer on midwife doesn't count), and the N1 NK on Schia seems like it would come from you, as you were the only player voting him, even if it was a WIFOM vote. I have to say though, your AtE is what rubs me the wrong way, which is why I said gut read. seeing how 0 post lurker flipped doctor, i could care less about this game XD lynch animalmidwife I think freddy NK might mean someone bussed or someone wanted it to look like someone bussed. Another theory is that everyone who is alive is not SRing the correct slot.It's interesting to note that two of the people on the D1 scum lynch are still alive. I was on neither scum wagon because I did not know scum. Also, the Schia nk could not have come from me because I am not mafia. Disproved. Also, at this point, Zestoflife, Meower, Sir, and You have all been on a scum wagon, and I know I am not scum, so someone definitely bussed. Zestoflife was the first on g1mmick, and by poe, he's the most town. Meower9lives is questionable because he was extremely intent on the g1mmick shot by the end of the day, even if he died. He has also been playing the game very systematically until it came time for him to be pressured. Sir Mister is probably my biggest scumread because his first mention was of a Mafia Rolecop not existing (thinking of anything but a Mafia Role cop for c7 nightkill). He also seems to attribute the lynch as a hidden message sent by Neo, to whose reads he sheeps and does not at his liking. What rubs me the wrong way was that he lynched animalmidwife already with his "freddy / animal one is scum" sr, then freddy dies soon after. Scorrchingtheaph could be scum ONLY because I seriously doubt 3 town were on the mafia lynch, unless meower9lives is scum. That brings me to a dilemma- it's either meower / theaph because of the d1 lynch, or it's jsut naturally sir mister because he is scummy. Scorrchingtheaph has also been feeling like he is very cautious about the things he says. He gives good reasoning for every single one of his actions, which I can't believe town can consciously do (aka making sure everything is backed up by something and not fully gut read). Yet again, not a reference. Theaph made an independent read and said that he was going to use wagonomics in the instance of the lurker lynch. And you're the one saying "animalmidwife / freddy " is 1 town + 1 mafia which means scum is following that read? You also previously mentioned that "everyone TRed freddy", even though he wasnt really mentioned as a hard tr by anyone but theaph. Basically going off your false misinterpretation of who's a uni tr and who's not led you to the kill.. Additionally if scorrchingtheaph is town, he would have probably be nked for starting the wagon. Sir Mister starts the day off believing that the wagon was a bus, and therefore he wasn't nked because Sir Mister planned to question / pressure him, but now that Theaph gave a valid answer, Sir Mister now does a complete 180 on his read, and theaph will probably be nked tonight. (Although now that I mention it, maybe not)?!? Also i want everyone to give their reads as to who is scum if I were to flip town Very hot take. You make a good point about freddy because I don't think anyone besides me actually stated a TR on him. What do you think about ZoL being alive after being the 1st lynch D1 on Gimm1ck? If today leads to town lynched, then wouldn't the play be scum idle into MYLO rather than LYLO? Ty I am a hot person. I think Zestoflife is still town just because again, of POE and I can't imagine that he's scum. In a Scorrchingtheaph / Sir Mister / Meower lylo I would be stumped anyways. And yes, idle into mylo will be the play because discussion hurts town.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 0:46:01 GMT
A few responses to what ! said. Sir Mister’s spot on the wagon makes me nearly 100% sure he is Town. I didn’t sr gimm1ck until I caught him slipping, I don’t understand what you mean by systematically. ! Is suggesting plays for scum to make (he’s saying scum idling is good for them) ZOL being first on Gimm1ck could have been him bussing just as easily as ? On Animalmidwife. You tried saying an “I’m not scum because I’m not scum” statement with what you said about the schiavetto Nightkill How come you scumread me when I was more concerned with getting my read across than staying alive. If you are Town, you know that one of us is mafia, and all 4 of us have lynched scum, so why do you think ZoL didn’t bus but someone else did.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 0:59:08 GMT
I also want to point out that ! tried to start discussion on why Freddy was killed, at that point scum would probably only kill Freddy if they had some sort of strategy behind it, and ! seems to be the only one trying to theorize about it.
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Post by ❗ on Jun 19, 2019 1:22:13 GMT
A few responses to what ! said. Sir Mister’s spot on the wagon makes me nearly 100% sure he is Town. I didn’t sr gimm1ck until I caught him slipping, I don’t understand what you mean by systematically. ! Is suggesting plays for scum to make (he’s saying scum idling is good for them) ZOL being first on Gimm1ck could have been him bussing just as easily as ? On Animalmidwife. You tried saying an “I’m not scum because I’m not scum” statement with what you said about the schiavetto Nightkill How come you scumread me when I was more concerned with getting my read across than staying alive. If you are Town, you know that one of us is mafia, and all 4 of us have lynched scum, so why do you think ZoL didn’t bus but someone else did. 1) Being 2nd on lynch means town? 2) Systematically as in how you're playing- orderly and uniform until panic 3) If I am suggesting plays for scum, then that means I am town, because I am not suggesting it for myself. Why do you think I would say idling is good for scum? 4) Zol being first on gimm1ck d1, now why would scum intentionally bus in that situation when they can easily claim that as RVS and shift to someone else. Also, Zol is based on poe rather than simply his day 1 lynch 5) Because it works- he hasn't explained why a Schiavetto nk would probably be something "I do", and in fact, there was no accusation there at all except that I wifom lynched and killed him. 6) I scumread you because you were desperate especially in the situation where you lynched me and got pressured continuously- the day 1 where you were being lynched could have very well been a way to give gimm towncred in the case that you are scum. 7) Because Zol was d1 during a time which again, he could have easily got off. Theaph's wagon was quickly followed by a quick sir mister lynch and then your "I think we should get ? or ! today, but ima just lynch animalmidwife anyway". Everyone else has also been noticeably scummy in some form, while Zol has been the least scummy. I also want to point out that ! tried to start discussion on why Freddy was killed, at that point scum would probably only kill Freddy if they had some sort of strategy behind it, and ! seems to be the only one trying to theorize about it. ! tries to start discussion on Freddy because even you yourself said that he was a possible lynch and scummy. The strategy behind it was already obvious- it was what scorrchingtheaph said about bus or attempt of framing someone who bussed. But it's interesting to here other's peoples thoughts, as there was clearly a reason for him to be killed, especially because he was the least active. You can also gain a lot of information on the validity of their theories (like Sir Mister believing that Freddy was the most town, which was the reason)
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 1:37:14 GMT
Responses to responses 1: In his situation why would he continue a Lynch on partner in 7p. 2: thanks for clarifying but you seemed to say that I waited until a moment to lynch gimm1ck when I already told you I didn’t sr him until he slipped. 3: Faking activity, and you are basically trying to say you are suggesting scum plays to be townie 4: Fair, but similar can be said about ? 5: Didn’t ask for a response to this, I pointed out something you did. 6: So you scumread ?, me, and Sir Mister.... also if I was scum pointing out a slip on my partner in that situation would’ve basically been losing both myself and them. 7: Fair, but back to the point of you saying everyone is a sr To me it feels like everyone here is somewhat towny, not somewhat scummy. I can give reasons. Also, if you scumread me for something day 1, why did you wait until day 5 to say it.
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Post by meower9lives on Jun 19, 2019 1:46:02 GMT
Also if you doubt ZOL bussed, why do you think Gimm1ck tried to bus. If you sr me you believe gimm1ck immediately rvsd a partner and stayed on them.
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Post by ❗ on Jun 19, 2019 2:11:49 GMT
A few responses to what ! said. Sir Mister’s spot on the wagon makes me nearly 100% sure he is Town. I didn’t sr gimm1ck until I caught him slipping, I don’t understand what you mean by systematically. ! Is suggesting plays for scum to make (he’s saying scum idling is good for them) ZOL being first on Gimm1ck could have been him bussing just as easily as ? On Animalmidwife. You tried saying an “I’m not scum because I’m not scum” statement with what you said about the schiavetto Nightkill How come you scumread me when I was more concerned with getting my read across than staying alive. If you are Town, you know that one of us is mafia, and all 4 of us have lynched scum, so why do you think ZoL didn’t bus but someone else did. 1) Being 2nd on lynch means town? 2) Systematically as in how you're playing- orderly and uniform until panic 3) If I am suggesting plays for scum, then that means I am town, because I am not suggesting it for myself. Why do you think I would say idling is good for scum? 4) Zol being first on gimm1ck d1, now why would scum intentionally bus in that situation when they can easily claim that as RVS and shift to someone else. Also, Zol is based on poe rather than simply his day 1 lynch 5) Because it works- he hasn't explained why a Schiavetto nk would probably be something "I do", and in fact, there was no accusation there at all except that I wifom lynched and killed him. 6) I scumread you because you were desperate especially in the situation where you lynched me and got pressured continuously- the day 1 where you were being lynched could have very well been a way to give gimm towncred in the case that you are scum. 7) Because Zol was d1 during a time which again, he could have easily got off. Theaph's wagon was quickly followed by a quick sir mister lynch and then your "I think we should get ? or ! today, but ima just lynch animalmidwife anyway". Everyone else has also been noticeably scummy in some form, while Zol has been the least scummy. I also want to point out that ! tried to start discussion on why Freddy was killed, at that point scum would probably only kill Freddy if they had some sort of strategy behind it, and ! seems to be the only one trying to theorize about it. ! tries to start discussion on Freddy because even you yourself said that he was a possible lynch and scummy. The strategy behind it was already obvious- it was what scorrchingtheaph said about bus or attempt of framing someone who bussed. But it's interesting to here other's peoples thoughts, as there was clearly a reason for him to be killed, especially because he was the least active. You can also gain a lot of information on the validity of their theories (like Sir Mister believing that Freddy was the most town, which was the reason) Responses to responses 1: In his situation why would he continue a Lynch on partner in 7p. 2: thanks for clarifying but you seemed to say that I waited until a moment to lynch gimm1ck when I already told you I didn’t sr him until he slipped. 3: Faking activity, and you are basically trying to say you are suggesting scum plays to be townie 4: Fair, but similar can be said about ? 5: Didn’t ask for a response to this, I pointed out something you did. 6: So you scumread ?, me, and Sir Mister.... also if I was scum pointing out a slip on my partner in that situation would’ve basically been losing both myself and them. 7: Fair, but back to the point of you saying everyone is a sr To me it feels like everyone here is somewhat towny, not somewhat scummy. I can give reasons. Also, if you scumread me for something day 1, why did you wait until day 5 to say it. 1) In Sir Mister's situation he had to validate his freddy / animal scum, if not he was practically giving away his partner 2) uhh dont understand this one hows that a response to mine 3) i mean you had to go ahead and ruin it im obviously suggesting scum plays that scum should not do and faking convincing reasoning for them to do it.. 4) d1 is different from other days, more players more activity less general chance of scum even being lynched and zol wasn't even in a position of panic 5) ur right i couldn't have responded to this in the first place 6) since it wasn't an actual slip, and the fact that if you were to flip mafia, town would especially not consider it a slip at that point 7) because from my pov, someone has confirmed to have been bussing, and I doubt it's zol for previously said reasons. I've also explained each one. Lastly, it wasn't a scumread until recently because I doubted that scum was even bussing in the first place, and instead they were on the lurking wagons. In retrospect I would still not think you would be scum because it seemingly felt like a counterwagon, but now that i'm limited to 4 players, where one of them has bussed, i'm considering what they actually did. i was also lowkey skimming the game before and then we lost all our prs in an instant Also if you doubt ZOL bussed, why do you think Gimm1ck tried to bus. If you sr me you believe gimm1ck immediately rvsd a partner and stayed on them. obvious answer is towncred although you do make a point with that. then again, all this has led up to you getting an immense amount of towncred from that. also generally you've been questioning my zol read pretty thoroughly so i can't tell if that's you trying to understand why i actually tr him or trying to manipulate me into thinking otherwise.
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