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Post by vooper on Aug 11, 2019 18:03:06 GMT
ed on this page confuses the life out of me like i understand the whole "if you were rbed claim and if no one claims rb was on not town or whatever" and like where that comes from but a big fat  x100 to rest of the stuff |
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Post by vooper on Aug 11, 2019 18:12:32 GMT
not only did that post go on a new page but ive been sniped by people as well
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 11, 2019 18:28:05 GMT
Most notably i say there r 4 scums atm, considering that if the one of thr os solar god or vig is alive they doesnt qualify as scum. I think the black goo died though, but i am sure the sk is still alive. So i would say 4 scums r alive rn. So many assumptions are made in this post that are unverifiable AND irrelevant that I don't even know how to respond. like... how could you possibly assume that goo died instead of sk or tourist? you also thought sadnar was likely osvig. also it could've been a double mafia death WHO KNOWS??!? this post almost makes me think he's actually just a town using terribad logic. The main reason for my pgo theory is that 1 kill has obviously taken by mafia, whereas the 2nd and 3rd may be by the pgo/sk/vig. I rule out vig from the list because i dont really see vig shooting d1, especially after how unclear d1 actually was. Secondly y would vig shoot a macho role doc claim? Makes little sense, and the same can be said about mafia as they still have their strongman, a macho doctor wouldnt be on their target list atm. That leaves the sk and the pgo. Like i said before one of the non town is either os solar god or black goo, the later one having no action at all. Even if we consider that the sk did kill n1, 1 kill is still unclear as we dont know who attempted it. That is where i consider milos d1 isos. He wanted to claim his doc target, giving me an expression that he would either make a risky move by visiting his sr, or he would go to a possible town read(schia) and stop anyone from attempting a kill on him. The latter seems a bad reason to actually hide the doc target but again if he had claimed the nks might have been different. This was the reason y i considered tbz as my second option as milos night visit. ok so 1) there's 4 possible kills in the game night 1: pgo, OS Vig (osv), mafia, sk. Dull's target is only clear if all three active kills went through, meaning the pgo didn't go off. Your theories about dull's "clear" and milo hitting pgo conflict each other. 2) your hasty assumption that milo specifically hit the PGO is just that-hasty. He's a claimed doc. Sk would gladly shoot that so he won't nullify a future kill. Sk only has 3 kills. He could use your exact logic to think mafia won't shoot milo, and then shoot milo himself. 3) your assumptions that schia and qtball are his targets don't seem to be based off anything but... idk? your own townreads? You explained why schia was a likely target and then said "This was the reason y i considered tbz as my second option as milos night visit." Wtf? See below. now ur speaking my language this is totally 50%+ sheeping btw Lynch AlexanderScrew it I trust you unvote FortVote AlexanderDull you better keep talking or you'll regret it! Imagine reading that, and then not putting vooper into the list of targets milo might have doctored. Milo had more than 1 townread, dude. If ed flips scum, then it would be a good idea to take a close look at vooper. Anyways, my lynch stays. He used even worse logic to explain his previous flawed logic. I have no idea why vig is defending this. I really struggle to see this as vig defending a scumbuddy, because ed's blobposts are so scummy. If I were ed's scumbuddy here, I'd be, well, doing exactly what im doing lmfao (which is calling out the bad logic and pushing the easy buss). |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 11, 2019 18:47:04 GMT
Ok so about the other stuff.
I like schia's reaction to being lynched. Feels very town to me, and is probably my strongest TR now.
vig... he's defending ed fsr but ok. I'm not sure I can make any reads off that, because I can see what he means even if I don't particularly agree.
Same with zlerb, except he's just regurgitating vig, which looks slightly worse than vig even though they're saying the same thing.
vooper has an interesting take on neo's post. only 1 example used tho, i think? honestly i just need to reread both posts from a computer. mobile makes them so difficult to read. But anyways, I want to see more of that interaction.
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Post by qtball on Aug 11, 2019 21:52:45 GMT
Edward really needs to omgus me so another wagon has as much traction’s as his /yawn
Claiming joat, you can both eat my ass, got zeep as not mafia
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Post by ®➕➕ on Aug 11, 2019 22:24:28 GMT
hi everyone I’m town I literally swear it xoxoxo PLEASE do NOT lynch me. thank you kings and queens and have a good night❤️❤️❤️ For anyone who cares, I’m experimenting with a new posting/playing style this game. Vote VigilanteVigorothInb4 Fenrir is pulling off a Duskfall Is sanar lurking AI that you are concerned too much about it or nah? Def not letting a repeat of last game happening so gonna get obv!scum straight away: Vote Mylo
This rubs me off wrongly uh. jojo op of the day: sono chi no sadame bc fuck you, jonathan deserved better rn i dont know whats happening so give me a few to read This too is bad You don't say this and mia when there is like 2 pages only to read? town read on ZoL potato town lean on edz tldr of your post; you(me) said things i agree with things, you misread things that I won't point out(which im assuming to be anything in regards to you but i have no idea because theres no deep diving into your posts) SO in response to my "misreading" and "shading"(do you mean colors because i have no idea what it means) I have no clue where exactly I've done any of the sort. The lack of any meaningful content from ZOL 2 pages in but you going out of your way to say you tr him pings me hard, in regards to ed i don't even need you to explain that one as anyone whos actively reading the game wouldn't have to question eds constant putting his foot in his own mouth BUT since you asked explain the read !!!!!!!!! TLDR ; i need more than 10 words from you explaining why you trd zol despite 0 to go off of |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Aug 11, 2019 22:28:06 GMT
and x2 on i have no idea how to read eds posts its like he's responding to questions no one has asked and bringing up weird ass stuff (from what i can read he's saying the 3 nks are from the pgo kill because there's only 2 killing factions despite town having a vig) imma try and re-read it before i mental boom but as of now i don't think he flips scum -- ALSO has any sort of survivor claimed? i'd very much want to get that out the way as time is of the essence and i dont want to accidentally spend a day pushing a survivor into last second shifting onto someone else(see d1)
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Post by vooper on Aug 11, 2019 22:46:03 GMT
Inb4 Fenrir is pulling off a Duskfall Is sanar lurking AI that you are concerned too much about it or nah? This too is bad You don't say this and mia when there is like 2 pages only to read? town read on ZoL potato town lean on edz tldr of your post; you(me) said things i agree with things, you misread things that I won't point out(which im assuming to be anything in regards to you but i have no idea because theres no deep diving into your posts) SO in response to my "misreading" and "shading"(do you mean colors because i have no idea what it means) I have no clue where exactly I've done any of the sort. The lack of any meaningful content from ZOL 2 pages in but you going out of your way to say you tr him pings me hard, in regards to ed i don't even need you to explain that one as anyone whos actively reading the game wouldn't have to question eds constant putting his foot in his own mouth BUT since you asked explain the read !!!!!!!!! TLDR ; i need more than 10 words from you explaining why you trd zol despite 0 to go off of in around 2.5 pages of gameplay zol made a lynch that fit with his opening posting style, had his posts phrased in a way that made it seem like he wasnt being cautious with word choice, and already began trying to gete interactions with people. the questions are good for early game and i was expecting them to keep going w this ex being "This rubs me off wrongly" as smth that probs gets read over as scum and opening posts of hi -> lynch double post shading is when you make slight jabs at people id say? idk definition is weird i was just refering to you discrediting some of my reads w/o actively trying to talk to me and your tone seemed dismissive at points throughout the post misreading was only referencing the thing about schia cause you make the logical leap of "vooper has weird reads on x y z" -> "vooper must have a weird read on schia and just wants to sheep/pocket" |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Aug 11, 2019 23:13:52 GMT
tldr of your post; you(me) said things i agree with things, you misread things that I won't point out(which im assuming to be anything in regards to you but i have no idea because theres no deep diving into your posts) SO in response to my "misreading" and "shading"(do you mean colors because i have no idea what it means) I have no clue where exactly I've done any of the sort. The lack of any meaningful content from ZOL 2 pages in but you going out of your way to say you tr him pings me hard, in regards to ed i don't even need you to explain that one as anyone whos actively reading the game wouldn't have to question eds constant putting his foot in his own mouth BUT since you asked explain the read !!!!!!!!! TLDR ; i need more than 10 words from you explaining why you trd zol despite 0 to go off of in around 2.5 pages of gameplay zol made a lynch that fit with his opening posting style, had his posts phrased in a way that made it seem like he wasnt being cautious with word choice, and already began trying to gete interactions with people. the questions are good for early game and i was expecting them to keep going w this ex being "This rubs me off wrongly" as smth that probs gets read over as scum and opening posts of hi -> lynch double post shading is when you make slight jabs at people id say? idk definition is weird i was just refering to you discrediting some of my reads w/o actively trying to talk to me and your tone seemed dismissive at points throughout the post misreading was only referencing the thing about schia cause you make the logical leap of "vooper has weird reads on x y z" -> "vooper must have a weird read on schia and just wants to sheep/pocket" "looking at the PL rn theres nobody that really strikes me as scum, while quite a few people are mild TR's If i was kingmade i'd probably want to lynch someone who has been active but given me no such Mild TR vibe, which would be fort atm. I'm fine with the dull guy too if a fort wagon isnt happening xd " vig quote <-- THIS is shading it's not a matter of not trying to actively talk to you to get any reasoning for your reads as I have JUST subbed in not too long ago and the post that was made was just letting the PL know my thoughts about the things that have happened thus far, IN addition to this I not made a comment that could be considered a "slight jab" because i have declared my intent on players when it comes to reads. As far as "discrediting your reads" we can both acknowledge that you've done little to nothing to establish/explain any of them up until finally being questioned (fenrir made a little half comment about your hot take reads but didn't decide to ask anything) which makes you extremely suspect (to me at least) into sheeping schias on alex read and calling him town which is where the "pocketing" aspect comes from also people know how to soft so i very much doubt that qtball flips joat so im staying on |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Aug 11, 2019 23:14:34 GMT
Fuck it. UnlynchLynch: AlexanderLater. Fuck it. UnlynchLynch: AlexanderLater. now ur speaking my language this is totally 50%+ sheeping btw Lynch Alexanderschia is probs town here and going on a lynch he is first on that i agree with helps figuring out his allignment as well even further imo |
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Aug 11, 2019 23:16:45 GMT
shading is when you make slight jabs at people id say? idk definition is weird i was just refering to you discrediting some of my reads w/o actively trying to talk to me and your tone seemed dismissive at points throughout the post shading is when you make slight jabs at people id say? Hi, you'll be getting a longer post from me tonight but my black ass ain't about to just leave this--'shade' is a noun, not a verb. |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 11, 2019 23:26:54 GMT
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Post by qtball on Aug 11, 2019 23:30:43 GMT
when i flip town neo also flips scum dont be feigned by his persistence
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Post by qtball on Aug 11, 2019 23:31:21 GMT
as a reminder i just hard claimed joat zwerdjib aka zeep not mafia
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Post by vooper on Aug 11, 2019 23:34:39 GMT
in around 2.5 pages of gameplay zol made a lynch that fit with his opening posting style, had his posts phrased in a way that made it seem like he wasnt being cautious with word choice, and already began trying to gete interactions with people. the questions are good for early game and i was expecting them to keep going w this ex being "This rubs me off wrongly" as smth that probs gets read over as scum and opening posts of hi -> lynch double post shading is when you make slight jabs at people id say? idk definition is weird i was just refering to you discrediting some of my reads w/o actively trying to talk to me and your tone seemed dismissive at points throughout the post misreading was only referencing the thing about schia cause you make the logical leap of "vooper has weird reads on x y z" -> "vooper must have a weird read on schia and just wants to sheep/pocket" "looking at the PL rn theres nobody that really strikes me as scum, while quite a few people are mild TR's If i was kingmade i'd probably want to lynch someone who has been active but given me no such Mild TR vibe, which would be fort atm. I'm fine with the dull guy too if a fort wagon isnt happening xd " vig quote <-- THIS is shading it's not a matter of not trying to actively talk to you to get any reasoning for your reads as I have JUST subbed in not too long ago and the post that was made was just letting the PL know my thoughts about the things that have happened thus far, IN addition to this I not made a comment that could be considered a "slight jab" because i have declared my intent on players when it comes to reads. As far as "discrediting your reads" we can both acknowledge that you've done little to nothing to establish/explain any of them up until finally being questioned (fenrir made a little half comment about your hot take reads but didn't decide to ask anything) which makes you extremely suspect (to me at least) into sheeping schias on alex read and calling him town which is where the "pocketing" aspect comes from also people know how to soft so i very much doubt that qtball flips joat so im staying on /shrug ok yea the sub in thing shoulda been considered better on my end, im not saying i have explained my reads either btw i dont think saying schia is town and or deep wolf (what i was implying) is a pocket attempt |
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Post by vooper on Aug 11, 2019 23:34:56 GMT
shading is when you make slight jabs at people id say? idk definition is weird i was just refering to you discrediting some of my reads w/o actively trying to talk to me and your tone seemed dismissive at points throughout the post shading is when you make slight jabs at people id say? Hi, you'll be getting a longer post from me tonight but my black ass ain't about to just leave this--'shade' is a noun, not a verb. oh boy christmas already |
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Post by Dullagamur on Aug 11, 2019 23:41:51 GMT
So I just read through, I still find Ed's post scummy as they rely on too many assumptions for a town. I'm leaning towards a townread on Vig, but that's mostly because I blockeed them last night to seemingly no effect.
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Post by ®➕➕ on Aug 12, 2019 0:12:47 GMT
I don't like a lot of the things Edward said, notably the insinuation that whoever I blocked is clear just because I blocked them. It seems like you are hoping I blocked scum so you can get them cleared and then win. With that said
<abbr>Lynch edward</abbr> <abbr>
</abbr> <abbr></abbr> So I just read through, I still find Ed's post scummy as they rely on too many assumptions for a town. I'm leaning towards a townread on Vig, but that's mostly because I blockeed them last night to seemingly no effect. |
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Post by Dullagamur on Aug 12, 2019 0:21:09 GMT
I don't like a lot of the things Edward said, notably the insinuation that whoever I blocked is clear just because I blocked them. It seems like you are hoping I blocked scum so you can get them cleared and then win. With that said
<abbr>Lynch edward</abbr> <abbr>
</abbr> <abbr></abbr> So I just read through, I still find Ed's post scummy as they rely on too many assumptions for a town. I'm leaning towards a townread on Vig, but that's mostly because I blockeed them last night to seemingly no effect. Me blocking Vig doesn't clear them, but in my mind it makes it more likely they are town. If they start acting scummy I'll still lynch them |
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Post by ❗ on Aug 12, 2019 1:01:37 GMT
sorry yall i was busy again but im going to read again i did notice that neo left a huge post before i had to go so lol
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Post by ❗ on Aug 12, 2019 1:42:45 GMT
Oh well there goes my pretype. I was gonna launch my case vs spiderz (basic gist was the tunnel-sheep on me effectively copied from fenrir's qualms against me). Oh well. Before I continue, Sell me on that Alex wagon, Fort. I’m prepared to fight it. I’d also fight a hypothetical Schia wagon today, but I expect more follow-up on the questions they’ve asked. They’re in my townlean category but I have concerns about making busywork for themselves. Right now due to plurality, I believe the lynch would still be on our Roleblocker claim. I’d like to not do that. I'm glad to see you sold yourself on it. I was not able to be there at deadline, hence so I put my lynch on the wagon that was not the roleblocker claim. I even mentioned in my lynch that dull was more of an SR than alex. I'm super sorry about being inactive :/ (to me, not having time to reread the thread multiple times is being inactive). But since I still don't have time to do that, I will put my lynch on my biggest remaining scumread. lynch yashgreninjaHe met the post requirements and questioned some actions, but posted effectively nothing of his own. First I want to ask @fortcolors did you or did you not townread Alexander prior to lynching him? (or at any point in game) Oh well there goes my pretype. I was gonna launch my case vs spiderz (basic gist was the tunnel-sheep on me effectively copied from fenrir's qualms against me). Oh well. Before I continue, I'm glad to see you sold yourself on it. I was not able to be there at deadline, hence so I put my lynch on the wagon that was not the roleblocker claim. I even mentioned in my lynch that dull was more of an SR than alex. I'm super sorry about being inactive :/ (to me, not having time to reread the thread multiple times is being inactive). But since I still don't have time to do that, I will put my lynch on my biggest remaining scumread. lynch yashgreninjaHe met the post requirements and questioned some actions, but posted effectively nothing of his own. I won't make any excuses for not really being productive d1 but anything that I've seen as scummy has already been covered so there was no point repeating it in the first place or else that would just raise some unnecessary flags on me; also I'm fairly new to forum mafia so excuse my apparent noobiness if I don't really do much with what people are saying. I'm just trying to witness certain scummy things that have happened and hopefully use that to pressure some people / find non town aligned people. Milo has been killed by the pgo, or else i dont see y mafia or third faction would risk killing the macho doc over the roleblocker claim or the possible black goo. But i think the mafia was hunting for the black goo due to which they shot spiderz/sadnar as it should be their priority kill. It is impossible for 3 kills to take place with only 2 killing fractions, unless ofc milo went to the pgo and died by doccing him. One of sadnar/spiderz kill may have also been while visiting the pgo hence showing that one of the not town who died were os solar god tourist. I really dont see the sk die either bacause it is bp due to which if mafia did target him he shouldve lived instead of dying unless he targetted the pgo as well which is impossible cause then the pgo shouldve died as well. So the not town kills r the black goo and the solar god. The possible player who milo seem to visited is either schia or qtball. As i know milo he wouldnt randomize his doc and he must have docced someone from either his srs to maybe point out a possible pgo or someone from his tr who was in threat of dying n1. The latter one seems more reasonable to me hence lynch schiaBased on everything I've read from Ed so farhis posts seem to concern the night more than anything else which I could see as town trying to gain info from night but also you lynched Schia based on this, even though the roleblocker hardclaimed, and would be mylo's target? oh right neo's post in my haste to decry edward's blobpost i completely forgot about Neo. I like what he did, and I notice that he brought up quite a few new observations in the post. However I am cautious because this is exactly how lucas pocketed me in d6 (ily snaq <3). Mild townread on neo for it, and I like the argument he made against qtball and will consider that for a wagon today. But for now my vote stays on edward for that overhwelmingly scummy post. again with the "wow this person seems town but here's pmeta / past games showing I shouldn't trust myself" Idc what this theory seems to others but i feel like am on to something, hence if i cant lynch schia then i would move to my second suspect unlynch schia lynch tbzwait but your theory revolves around schia being scum correct? and why are you lynching tbz just because he already has another lynch on him instead of staying with your original sr then?? lol |
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Post by ❗ on Aug 12, 2019 1:49:11 GMT
i feel like while there are massive holes in Edwards logic, it does come across as with townie intent, and his core concept has a good chance of being right (although i think its more likely that mafia NKd milo, SK NK'd mafia, and one of the 3p's hit the PGO) Past that though, there are enormous flaws in logic. Milo doccing a SR would be stupid because only 1 of the 6 scum roles actually kills him for it, and that would then require us to realise what he was doing and then theres the risk of him stopping a scum from dying if he does that which makes it stupid. Its much more liekly he was targetting a TR also your 'claim if ur action failed' thing doesnt work because 90% of the roles wouldnt be told if their action failed.. the delivery is bad but i can see the town mentality behind what Ed is doing not even gonna lie these two posts aren't even scummy but my gut does not like esp with the type of posts vigvig made d1 |
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Post by ❗ on Aug 12, 2019 2:09:20 GMT
I am actually leaning fort right now till but gonna wait for u guys to respond to my post before I decide lynch. On top of that almost everyone here already has an opinion on edward and more than half of them aren't looking positive.
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Post by ®➕➕ on Aug 12, 2019 2:53:31 GMT
I am actually leaning fort right now till but gonna wait for u guys to respond to my post before I decide lynch. On top of that almost everyone here already has an opinion on edward and more than half of them aren't looking positive. isn't the general consensus that he's town*TBA* trying too hard outside of the few persons(i don't count dulla) that actually sr him |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Aug 12, 2019 4:16:02 GMT
Oh well there goes my pretype. I was gonna launch my case vs spiderz (basic gist was the tunnel-sheep on me effectively copied from fenrir's qualms against me). Oh well. Before I continue, I'm glad to see you sold yourself on it. I was not able to be there at deadline, hence so I put my lynch on the wagon that was not the roleblocker claim. I even mentioned in my lynch that dull was more of an SR than alex. I'm super sorry about being inactive :/ (to me, not having time to reread the thread multiple times is being inactive). But since I still don't have time to do that, I will put my lynch on my biggest remaining scumread. lynch yashgreninjaHe met the post requirements and questioned some actions, but posted effectively nothing of his own. First I want to ask @fortcolors did you or did you not townread Alexander prior to lynching him? (or at any point in game) My read on him was more or less null. |
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