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Post by tenzhii on Oct 30, 2019 0:14:57 GMT
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Post by cl on Oct 30, 2019 0:42:24 GMT
vote schia Will pick apart his post later. zlerd also hasn't claimed yet and I feel the time is right for claims (should've happened previous day)
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Post by cl on Oct 30, 2019 0:45:18 GMT
Also internal reads are supposed to be explained by the person making the reads, not the person being read. That's the most opportunistic way to excuse your reads to push someone in bad faith. Anyway you can dismiss practically every line in schia post which is the only thing of minimal relevance he's done since four days of this game so yh be back later
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Post by cl on Oct 30, 2019 0:47:49 GMT
Lastly, I used my action to sort of clear bgb atleast from my pov because I was paranoid about the stupid Lynch on him a couple days back. Do not regret lynching edj at all. All he had done was make the entire day about himself, grandstanding as supposed town and doing little else.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Oct 30, 2019 22:15:37 GMT
Also internal reads are supposed to be explained by the person making the reads, not the person being read. That's the most opportunistic way to excuse your reads to push someone in bad faith. Anyway you can dismiss practically every line in schia post which is the only thing of minimal relevance he's done since four days of this game so yh be back later All this says is that you haven't read ISOs between me and Z.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Oct 30, 2019 22:16:50 GMT
(schia im confused on why im locktown to All this says is that this game has gone on so long that even my guardian angel is forgetting things
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Oct 30, 2019 22:18:36 GMT
vote schia Will pick apart his post later.
zlerd also hasn't claimed yet and I feel the time is right for claims (should've happened previous day) [second line of bold mine] All this says is that you don't want to invest any energy in actually articulating your suspicions or acknowledging any of the points I've raised. annoying! I'm docking this as a retaliatory lynch until I have reason to believe otherwise
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Post by cl on Nov 1, 2019 3:17:05 GMT
Also internal reads are supposed to be explained by the person making the reads, not the person being read. That's the most opportunistic way to excuse your reads to push someone in bad faith. Anyway you can dismiss practically every line in schia post which is the only thing of minimal relevance he's done since four days of this game so yh be back later All this says is that you haven't read ISOs between me and Z. What this actually says is that you still did not articulate your TR on him despite being asked by zlerd himself.
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Post by cl on Nov 1, 2019 3:19:05 GMT
(schia im confused on why im locktown to All this says is that this game has gone on so long that even my guardian angel is forgetting things Or you attempted to pocket and its too late to back out now.
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Post by cl on Nov 1, 2019 3:20:47 GMT
vote schia Will pick apart his post later.
zlerd also hasn't claimed yet and I feel the time is right for claims (should've happened previous day) [second line of bold mine] All this says is that you don't want to invest any energy in actually articulating your suspicions or acknowledging any of the points I've raised. annoying! I'm docking this as a retaliatory lynch until I have reason to believe otherwise =[ Had no time. Im doing it now though. Also zlerd has ~12hours to claim his role and targets/actions before I switch to him so bgb please sheep me onto zlerd if it comes to that. You're the only town I can trust ;D
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Post by cl on Nov 1, 2019 3:47:41 GMT
So I have made a Quick Overall synopsis Of my reads(prioritize) This Is just a Draft and Is Still in beta. Some Part of the List I lack to Fully investigate due to the time I have and I also Dont have much sense of a Rubric. I will Hopefully Have this Updated my project as the game Goes on And of course I Can Provide Full analysis On any player If I Have Time To do that Since I won't Have much time tomorrow. But My Reason for this Post To get my "prioritized reads" Out there since I won't have much time tomorrow. Dont worry As the game go one my project will continue to be more accurate and reliable This is the only significant interaction from early days btw
fake html returns -shoutouts Notes
<Schia> <well intentioned filler> Apologize in advance (unvance?) for poor activity. Yes, I see the hypocrisy. No, I don't really care what you have to say about it. Solange once said "Dollars never show up on CP time," and I feel that in my sweat and in my blood.
I had something longer prepared, but that was back before life got busy and Gim hit us with another weeklong night, so here are some general thoughts that I'll revisit & polish as I get some time on my hands: </well intentioned filler town+1>
<Unexplalined Pocket attempt/called out with no response> Zlewrd is locktown to me. He can explain why if any of you are confused. </Unexplained Pocket attempt/called out with no response scummy+1> <AZ AZ is locktown to me, due to early game interactions. I'm not willing to SR him for the pseudocide(why?), and it bothers me that there are those who would entertain that notion(deflections to try to shut down people with differing reads-- scummy+1)
< Basically you're saying I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town. I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town> BGB's "flip" confirms that he is, at the very least, not Android-aligned--Edward's role pm from the flip said nothing about passive abilities, and i don't see anyone claiming anything that could account for a player having acquired a passive ability from an outside source. That being said, I'm extremely reluctant to give him a full pass, and the possibility of a Solo v GroupScum v Town setup definitely passed my mind. biggest argument for that atm from a setup design standpoint would be the distribution of votepower and kills among players--i'm going to go ahead and just say outright that if you're a survivor, you should say so outright. from a gameplay standpoint, what bugs me in particular is bgb's early game, esp. in terms of interactions with toni. will follow-up if needed but i think i touched on it earlier, so in the interest of time i'll ask you to skim back from gamestart up to toni's death and tell me if i'm making any sense <Nope> ---------------------- <Toni> Sigh I've got a 3 post restriction each night (which includes lynches) but just wanted to say that I'm here so...yay? </Toni> <Bgb> This isnt a Troll post right? Futhermore not a excuse? Cause if anything its beyond the point of being neg utility </Bgb> </Nope>
</Basically you're saying I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town. I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town>
i don't like abby, but i'm hardpressed to see them as [in](?)compatible with edward/gats scumteam. willing to revisit it bc i definitely don't TR them as much as Zwerd/Arizona, but it's worth a mention
<Flawed conclusion from bad faith reads/shows no intention of reevaluating+does not mention a faction/solo conveniently leaves it up to interpretation> POE leaves CL </Flawed conclusion from bad faith reads/shows no intention of reevaluating/solo conveniently leaves it up to interpretation> </Schia>
The one bgb+toni interaction which was anything remotely useful. Any vote isolated in an FOS context is scummy. The votes which are FOS/ stand out overall are actually worth looking at and bgbs votes were to push 1) lukers 2) potential neg utils 3) passive early game sfl
From the perspective of androids I do not sr bgb/abdel. From the perspective of a solo I'd still keep that read and focus on the remainder. Schia early heroic push on ed was great and then he quickly went back to nothingness + his lynch on bgb explains nothing to me regarding his alignment as Town only !Android.
In 12h I am definitely willing to push zlerd if a full claim is not forthcoming though.
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Post by cl on Nov 1, 2019 3:50:37 GMT
the [in](?) with a strikethrough was a joke I tried to sneak in but formatting messed up lel
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Post by tenzhii on Nov 1, 2019 13:28:51 GMT
So I have made a Quick Overall synopsis Of my reads(prioritize) This Is just a Draft and Is Still in beta. Some Part of the List I lack to Fully investigate due to the time I have and I also Dont have much sense of a Rubric. I will Hopefully Have this Updated my project as the game Goes on And of course I Can Provide Full analysis On any player If I Have Time To do that Since I won't Have much time tomorrow. But My Reason for this Post To get my "prioritized reads" Out there since I won't have much time tomorrow. Dont worry As the game go one my project will continue to be more accurate and reliable This is the only significant interaction from early days btw
fake html returns -shoutouts Notes
<Schia> <well intentioned filler> Apologize in advance (unvance?) for poor activity. Yes, I see the hypocrisy. No, I don't really care what you have to say about it. Solange once said "Dollars never show up on CP time," and I feel that in my sweat and in my blood.
I had something longer prepared, but that was back before life got busy and Gim hit us with another weeklong night, so here are some general thoughts that I'll revisit & polish as I get some time on my hands: </well intentioned filler town+1>
<Unexplalined Pocket attempt/called out with no response> Zlewrd is locktown to me. He can explain why if any of you are confused. </Unexplained Pocket attempt/called out with no response scummy+1> <AZ AZ is locktown to me, due to early game interactions. I'm not willing to SR him for the pseudocide(why?), and it bothers me that there are those who would entertain that notion(deflections to try to shut down people with differing reads-- scummy+1)
< Basically you're saying I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town. I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town> BGB's "flip" confirms that he is, at the very least, not Android-aligned--Edward's role pm from the flip said nothing about passive abilities, and i don't see anyone claiming anything that could account for a player having acquired a passive ability from an outside source. That being said, I'm extremely reluctant to give him a full pass, and the possibility of a Solo v GroupScum v Town setup definitely passed my mind. biggest argument for that atm from a setup design standpoint would be the distribution of votepower and kills among players--i'm going to go ahead and just say outright that if you're a survivor, you should say so outright. from a gameplay standpoint, what bugs me in particular is bgb's early game, esp. in terms of interactions with toni. will follow-up if needed but i think i touched on it earlier, so in the interest of time i'll ask you to skim back from gamestart up to toni's death and tell me if i'm making any sense <Nope> ---------------------- <Toni> Sigh I've got a 3 post restriction each night (which includes lynches) but just wanted to say that I'm here so...yay? </Toni> <Bgb> This isnt a Troll post right? Futhermore not a excuse? Cause if anything its beyond the point of being neg utility </Bgb> </Nope>
</Basically you're saying I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town. I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town>
i don't like abby, but i'm hardpressed to see them as [in](?)compatible with edward/gats scumteam. willing to revisit it bc i definitely don't TR them as much as Zwerd/Arizona, but it's worth a mention
<Flawed conclusion from bad faith reads/shows no intention of reevaluating+does not mention a faction/solo conveniently leaves it up to interpretation> POE leaves CL </Flawed conclusion from bad faith reads/shows no intention of reevaluating/solo conveniently leaves it up to interpretation> </Schia>
The one bgb+toni interaction which was anything remotely useful. Any vote isolated in an FOS context is scummy. The votes which are FOS/ stand out overall are actually worth looking at and bgbs votes were to push 1) lukers 2) potential neg utils 3) passive early game sfl
From the perspective of androids I do not sr bgb/abdel. From the perspective of a solo I'd still keep that read and focus on the remainder. Schia early heroic push on ed was great and then he quickly went back to nothingness + his lynch on bgb explains nothing to me regarding his alignment as Town only !Android.
In 12h I am definitely willing to push zlerd if a full claim is not forthcoming though.
please stop doing the html thing lmao it looks horrible and if schia is scum, explain their alignment and why they are aligned with ai (pretty difficult to prove) or solo (less difficult, but still very much a challenge)
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Post by cl on Nov 1, 2019 18:16:54 GMT
vote zlerd
bgb Im summoning you for a town sheep unless you're a weird Judas role now turned scum please arrive and help.
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Post by cl on Nov 1, 2019 18:18:29 GMT
This is the only significant interaction from early days btw
fake html returns -shoutouts Notes
<Schia> <well intentioned filler> Apologize in advance (unvance?) for poor activity. Yes, I see the hypocrisy. No, I don't really care what you have to say about it. Solange once said "Dollars never show up on CP time," and I feel that in my sweat and in my blood.
I had something longer prepared, but that was back before life got busy and Gim hit us with another weeklong night, so here are some general thoughts that I'll revisit & polish as I get some time on my hands: </well intentioned filler town+1>
<Unexplalined Pocket attempt/called out with no response> Zlewrd is locktown to me. He can explain why if any of you are confused. </Unexplained Pocket attempt/called out with no response scummy+1> <AZ AZ is locktown to me, due to early game interactions. I'm not willing to SR him for the pseudocide(why?), and it bothers me that there are those who would entertain that notion(deflections to try to shut down people with differing reads-- scummy+1)
< Basically you're saying I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town. I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town> BGB's "flip" confirms that he is, at the very least, not Android-aligned--Edward's role pm from the flip said nothing about passive abilities, and i don't see anyone claiming anything that could account for a player having acquired a passive ability from an outside source. That being said, I'm extremely reluctant to give him a full pass, and the possibility of a Solo v GroupScum v Town setup definitely passed my mind. biggest argument for that atm from a setup design standpoint would be the distribution of votepower and kills among players--i'm going to go ahead and just say outright that if you're a survivor, you should say so outright. from a gameplay standpoint, what bugs me in particular is bgb's early game, esp. in terms of interactions with toni. will follow-up if needed but i think i touched on it earlier, so in the interest of time i'll ask you to skim back from gamestart up to toni's death and tell me if i'm making any sense <Nope> ---------------------- <Toni> Sigh I've got a 3 post restriction each night (which includes lynches) but just wanted to say that I'm here so...yay? </Toni> <Bgb> This isnt a Troll post right? Futhermore not a excuse? Cause if anything its beyond the point of being neg utility </Bgb> </Nope>
</Basically you're saying I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town. I think bgb is scum. I think bgb is town>
i don't like abby, but i'm hardpressed to see them as [in](?)compatible with edward/gats scumteam. willing to revisit it bc i definitely don't TR them as much as Zwerd/Arizona, but it's worth a mention
<Flawed conclusion from bad faith reads/shows no intention of reevaluating+does not mention a faction/solo conveniently leaves it up to interpretation> POE leaves CL </Flawed conclusion from bad faith reads/shows no intention of reevaluating/solo conveniently leaves it up to interpretation> </Schia>
The one bgb+toni interaction which was anything remotely useful. Any vote isolated in an FOS context is scummy. The votes which are FOS/ stand out overall are actually worth looking at and bgbs votes were to push 1) lukers 2) potential neg utils 3) passive early game sfl
From the perspective of androids I do not sr bgb/abdel. From the perspective of a solo I'd still keep that read and focus on the remainder. Schia early heroic push on ed was great and then he quickly went back to nothingness + his lynch on bgb explains nothing to me regarding his alignment as Town only !Android.
In 12h I am definitely willing to push zlerd if a full claim is not forthcoming though.
please stop doing the html thing lmao it looks horrible and if schia is scum, explain their alignment and why they are aligned with ai (pretty difficult to prove) or solo (less difficult, but still very much a challenge)
yh sry I didnt have access to a laptop and my programming habit kicked in and I tagged stuff like that xd. I promise it'll improve more once you're voted out
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Post by tenzhii on Nov 1, 2019 18:25:58 GMT
please stop doing the html thing lmao it looks horrible and if schia is scum, explain their alignment and why they are aligned with ai (pretty difficult to prove) or solo (less difficult, but still very much a challenge)
yh sry I didnt have access to a laptop and my programming habit kicked in and I tagged stuff like that xd. I promise it'll improve more once you're voted out
very quick to dodge the question, eh?
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Post by cl on Nov 1, 2019 18:31:45 GMT
yh sry I didnt have access to a laptop and my programming habit kicked in and I tagged stuff like that xd. I promise it'll improve more once you're voted out
very quick to dodge the question, eh? No no you misunderstand... Answering your question has no value as you've excused everyone else lynching by POE till now (including schia) and you haven't claimed yet. I just need bgb to appear and save town now.. I do not need to outline my reasons simply because your responses merit no action
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Post by tenzhii on Nov 1, 2019 19:59:13 GMT
very quick to dodge the question, eh? No no you misunderstand... Answering your question has no value as you've excused everyone else lynching by POE till now (including schia) and you haven't claimed yet. I just need bgb to appear and save town now.. I do not need to outline my reasons simply because your responses merit no action :)
LOL ok. i wanna policy you rn but as it stands you have an equal chance of being scum as schia is and id rather not take the chance that theres another faction. ...however im parking vote here anyway because you piss me off, town or scum vote clalso, you have literally no reason to sr me over schia AND you still havent taken me up on my challenge; and yet you still expect bgb to lynch me without a second thought? i know its a cs but if youre gonna try to push a town as scum at least be consistent and actually give your reads bases, rather than pointing out the odds of a solo faction and saying "yeah this is scum guys even if hes lynched the scum faction twice till now"
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Post by bluegummybear on Nov 1, 2019 20:13:53 GMT
vote zlerdbgb Im summoning you for a town sheep unless you're a weird Judas role now turned scum please arrive and help. HI Vote zlerd
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Post by AlmostZero on Nov 2, 2019 10:57:50 GMT
if i vote zlerd won't it be a hammer? zlerd give me one reason why that shouldn't happen rn
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Post by cl on Nov 2, 2019 11:12:19 GMT
*yawn*
Think we need 4 votes to hammer. It's been 3 days of zlerd dodging claim requests and instead proceeds to cry foul over questions being unanswered (which not only reeks of hypocrisy but also of beings disingenuous )almost as if scum willfully ignores questions and tries to shift focus while trying to escape scot free for their own lack of action while calling out others just like zler- oh wait....!!
ALSO LOVE YOU BGB. THX FOR BEING THE ONLY GOOD TOWN.
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Post by cl on Nov 2, 2019 11:17:05 GMT
There is nothing to gain from further interaction with zlerd its basically a dead end and I will not pursue a worthless chase. If game does not end with him flipping scum we should probably reevaluate schias scumminess.
zlerd has had enough chances to claim a full role and he's certainly not acting in the interest of town anymore if he's voting me because 'I piss him off' and he doesn't care if I'm town or not... ok then.
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Post by tenzhii on Nov 2, 2019 12:22:00 GMT
if i vote zlerd won't it be a hammer? zlerd give me one reason why that shouldn't happen rn read the post above bgbs
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Post by AlmostZero on Nov 2, 2019 13:25:39 GMT
if i vote zlerd won't it be a hammer? zlerd give me one reason why that shouldn't happen rn read the post above bgbs isn't that your attack on cl? A bloody policy? You being serious mate? I haven't got your claim yet, you're playing your own game in the sidelines man
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Post by tenzhii on Nov 2, 2019 14:16:51 GMT
isn't that your attack on cl? A bloody policy? You being serious mate? I haven't got your claim yet, you're playing your own game in the sidelines man the point you seriously, the entire post is like 10% lynching cl for policy. theres genuinely a case to be made for his questionable, unsupported pushes
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