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Post by litteleven on Jun 26, 2020 4:18:13 GMT
i have read pages 1 and 30 BUT from a initial glance i do not like what lead up/the wording of bgbs vote on yash im getting big traitor vibes im here for 2-3 hrs so @ me anyone whilst i read vote bluegummybearjs it's a whiteflag traitor (dies when 3 goons are lynched) so priority on lynching mafia goons, reads should be tailored on those foundations, though this is appreciated though you could probably justify bgb!goon for the same reason |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 26, 2020 4:20:55 GMT
i have read pages 1 and 30 BUT from a initial glance i do not like what lead up/the wording of bgbs vote on yash im getting big traitor vibes im here for 2-3 hrs so @ me anyone whilst i read vote bluegummybearjs it's a whiteflag traitor (dies when 3 goons are lynched) so priority on lynching mafia goons, reads should be tailored on those foundations, though this is appreciated though you could probably justify bgb!goon for the same reason in this fever dream scenario the last remaining member of scum might be seen in a good light "town" wise it just reads off as weird to me though might be reading too much into it (im still gonna read too much into it) |
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2020 4:34:44 GMT
Initially I was considering bgb as town from how he came in and tred a few people in the collective scumpool (ddw, chad, null read lieb) which to me didn't make much sense to do as maf if he understood how tight the poe already was at this point. I think in hindsight this argument is pretty weak because he made it clear that he hadn't fully caught up yet and he didn't fully understand the gamestate at the time. I thought I'd include this anyway though. Given that I've thrown out so much towncred to so many people at this point without very much scumcred in contrast this near-null read here is looking fairly scummy to me.
Looking back I thought maybe we gave FJ a bit too much credit for being pushed on by trem. I'm still leaning not goon on this slot but I think it's worth seriously considering a bit more because I think the possibility of that just being a distance play is there. Yash was also really into this slot being town for reasons that were kinda meh overall.
I'm leaning town on lieb too now but I have pretty much no logical reason for doing so, it was just something about his last few posts near EoD. Given that I have no reasoning to support this claim, this slot is staying in my hangpool for now.
ddw is so hard to read but I'm really not like this. He didn't shift to pkq and had a pretty meh excuse at SoD, as well as being a primary supporter of the idea that a bus was very possible despite providing quite weak reasoning. If this sounds familiar it's because yash did the exact same thing. I can see a possible point for this not being goon from yesterday's interactions with yash but like I said earlier I think that could have been a distance play and it doesn't really outweigh the previous points for me.
That's my current hangpool for now, although I wouldn't be surprised at all if 1-2 of these were confirmed not goon by trackers
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Post by litteleven on Jun 26, 2020 4:35:36 GMT
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2020 4:36:40 GMT
Initially I was considering bgb as town from how he came in and tred a few people in the collective scumpool (ddw, chad, null read lieb) which to me didn't make much sense to do as maf if he understood how tight the poe already was at this point. I think in hindsight this argument is pretty weak because he made it clear that he hadn't fully caught up yet and he didn't fully understand the gamestate at the time. I thought I'd include this anyway though. Given that I've thrown out so much towncred to so many people at this point without very much scumcred in contrast this near-null read here is looking fairly scummy to me. Looking back I thought maybe we gave FJ a bit too much credit for being pushed on by trem. I'm still leaning not goon on this slot but I think it's worth seriously considering a bit more because I think the possibility of that just being a distance play is there. Yash was also really into this slot being town for reasons that were kinda meh overall. I'm leaning town on lieb too now but I have pretty much no logical reason for doing so, it was just something about his last few posts near EoD. Given that I have no reasoning to support this claim, this slot is staying in my hangpool for now. ddw is so hard to read but I'm really not like this. He didn't shift to pkq and had a pretty meh excuse at SoD, as well as being a primary supporter of the idea that a bus was very possible despite providing quite weak reasoning. If this sounds familiar it's because yash did the exact same thing. I can see a possible point for this not being goon from yesterday's interactions with yash but like I said earlier I think that could have been a distance play and it doesn't really outweigh the previous points for me. That's my current hangpool for now, although I wouldn't be surprised at all if 1-2 of these were confirmed not goon by trackers meant to say "but I really don't like this" on ddw's line |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 26, 2020 4:47:42 GMT
Initially I was considering bgb as town from how he came in and tred a few people in the collective scumpool (ddw, chad, null read lieb) which to me didn't make much sense to do as maf if he understood how tight the poe already was at this point. I think in hindsight this argument is pretty weak because he made it clear that he hadn't fully caught up yet and he didn't fully understand the gamestate at the time. I thought I'd include this anyway though. Given that I've thrown out so much towncred to so many people at this point without very much scumcred in contrast this near-null read here is looking fairly scummy to me. Looking back I thought maybe we gave FJ a bit too much credit for being pushed on by trem. I'm still leaning not goon on this slot but I think it's worth seriously considering a bit more because I think the possibility of that just being a distance play is there. Yash was also really into this slot being town for reasons that were kinda meh overall. I'm leaning town on lieb too now but I have pretty much no logical reason for doing so, it was just something about his last few posts near EoD. Given that I have no reasoning to support this claim, this slot is staying in my hangpool for now. ddw is so hard to read but I'm really not like this. He didn't shift to pkq and had a pretty meh excuse at SoD, as well as being a primary supporter of the idea that a bus was very possible despite providing quite weak reasoning. If this sounds familiar it's because yash did the exact same thing. I can see a possible point for this not being goon from yesterday's interactions with yash but like I said earlier I think that could have been a distance play and it doesn't really outweigh the previous points for me. That's my current hangpool for now, although I wouldn't be surprised at all if 1-2 of these were confirmed not goon by trackers letting it be known right now that i also think a d1 bus happened wagon was tbz - scept - pkq - litt - quojava - ayia into a nk onto from what i can see 5 pages in a low poster in sadnar who wasn't on the d1 scum wagon ill try and read faster though to see if this opinion will change after 25 more pages jaja |
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2020 4:56:34 GMT
Initially I was considering bgb as town from how he came in and tred a few people in the collective scumpool (ddw, chad, null read lieb) which to me didn't make much sense to do as maf if he understood how tight the poe already was at this point. I think in hindsight this argument is pretty weak because he made it clear that he hadn't fully caught up yet and he didn't fully understand the gamestate at the time. I thought I'd include this anyway though. Given that I've thrown out so much towncred to so many people at this point without very much scumcred in contrast this near-null read here is looking fairly scummy to me. Looking back I thought maybe we gave FJ a bit too much credit for being pushed on by trem. I'm still leaning not goon on this slot but I think it's worth seriously considering a bit more because I think the possibility of that just being a distance play is there. Yash was also really into this slot being town for reasons that were kinda meh overall. I'm leaning town on lieb too now but I have pretty much no logical reason for doing so, it was just something about his last few posts near EoD. Given that I have no reasoning to support this claim, this slot is staying in my hangpool for now. ddw is so hard to read but I'm really not like this. He didn't shift to pkq and had a pretty meh excuse at SoD, as well as being a primary supporter of the idea that a bus was very possible despite providing quite weak reasoning. If this sounds familiar it's because yash did the exact same thing. I can see a possible point for this not being goon from yesterday's interactions with yash but like I said earlier I think that could have been a distance play and it doesn't really outweigh the previous points for me. That's my current hangpool for now, although I wouldn't be surprised at all if 1-2 of these were confirmed not goon by trackers letting it be known right now that i also think a d1 bus happened wagon was tbz - scept - pkq - litt - quojava - ayia into a nk onto from what i can see 5 pages in a low poster in sadnar who wasn't on the d1 scum wagon ill try and read faster though to see if this opinion will change after 25 more pages jaja btw a large portion of the arguments (maybe even a majority of them) I put out d2 are about the unlikelihood of a bus. My main points for this are outlined here: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/68076/thread, although it is primarily just responding to ddw. I think reading a lot into the fact that the nk was put on someone who wasn't on the d1 scum wagon is not a particularly good route to go down, given that the maf team decided not to kill the claimed bg, showing that there was some irrationality going on there anyway. |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 26, 2020 5:15:47 GMT
the claimed bg not dying might be more player indicative than anything because said player (pkq) is known to gambit claim prs when he eventually gets lynched in an attempt to not die
i don't want to believe that the nk was completely irrational all things considered (avoiding everyone on the maf lynch & the claimed bodyguard) which makes me believe that the bus is likely unless there was some scenario that mafia couldn't find a good lynch opportunity, but if my opinion changes after reading the remainder of d1 and that post you linked i'll let you know
btw 9 pages in and if anyone on the wagon bussed it isn't scept
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Post by ayia on Jun 26, 2020 5:22:18 GMT
the claimed bg not dying might be more player indicative than anything because said player (pkq) is known to gambit claim prs when he eventually gets lynched in an attempt to not die i don't want to believe that the nk was completely irrational all things considered (avoiding everyone on the maf lynch & the claimed bodyguard) which makes me believe that the bus is likely unless there was some scenario that mafia couldn't find a good lynch opportunity, but if my opinion changes after reading the remainder of d1 and that post you linked i'll let you know btw 9 pages in and if anyone on the wagon bussed it isn't scept periyat scept is town Lynch liebgoing to push this now |
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Post by ayia on Jun 26, 2020 5:31:10 GMT
VOTE DRAGONFLY DRIFTWAYcontinuing from yesterday. if there are tracker results please save us the trouble (we're literally 1 lynch from winning) I'm starting to rethink my read here I'm rereading her stuff from the perspective that she's town and despite her being insane a lot of her posts seem like exasperated town |
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jun 26, 2020 5:34:18 GMT
i haven't read the link quo posted yet but the last 10 mins of d1 was actually terrible im still leaning "there was a bus" but im not as gungho about it anymore
to respond to the claimed bodyguard thing along with the thing i posted above
"Since people are sr me at this point once tracker knows I went nowhere I will be confirm as town or semi clear in this case" i dont think scum believed the bg claim since prior to it he said he wouldn't be going anywhere to prove that he was town
done with d1 gonna re-read nars stuff to see if theres anything i can @ someone for
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 26, 2020 5:48:06 GMT
This post was written before nk.
chad claiming tracker so late was a misplay, but it wroked out so eh.
this is now p much solved, the way yash was pushing that someone on trem is scum, really means noone on trem was scum
ill just give all my reads and the limitted scumpool, and we should win 99% of times.
also, yash sending kill implies that the last goon is someone who's sred more by the players as compared to yash, thus my townreads are even stronger now.
pkq-conf town unless zol sub ccs. if he is cced, he's traitor. because why did he try to explain he was conf town when EVERYONE already said he was? its like he couldn't believe it himself, hence why he explained, but let's see.
neo/zol-townlean(being pushed by yash, but then why did he unlynch?)
chad- conf town
ayia-obv town, also did you backstab lieb somewhere too, cuz the way hes tunneling you lmao
lieb- idk, but the last line by yash when he asked lieb and chad thiughts on zol seemed non scum-scum, but im not sure. I liked their later reactions, but some of their reads do not make sense and they have not done well to explain them.(eg. tunneling ayia, sring me and quo,) also reading back, what made you believ bgb had a good start? it was p mid don't you think? btw that one comment "idc if I'm tunneling, if I'm tunneling maf" I don't agree with ideology, I just fucked with the confidence.
bgb7- scumlean, the yash-bgb interaction was defo not scum-scum, but the bgb hammer was sort of off. "all alignment aside, it was fun playing with you" when there was barely anything that really happened between them, except for the 'schia op' exchange? the myo-lieb post was also very mid.
litt-obv town, hard pushed by yash when maf was not in position to bus.
qtball-obv town (but then this is tbz, can he bus two partners d1?)
myo-todays lynch
fenrir/fj-obv town
quojova-obv town
myo=>bgb=>lieb=>neo wins most of the times.
lynch ddw/myo/arc
i can give more explanation wherever if needed, so ask, but I really don't see the point cuz everything is very transparent.
also some obv towns in my list can be traitor, but they do not matter here really.
also, wow am I a tryhard
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2020 5:52:49 GMT
This post was written before nk.chad claiming tracker so late was a misplay, but it wroked out so eh. this is now p much solved, the way yash was pushing that someone on trem is scum, really means noone on trem was scum ill just give all my reads and the limitted scumpool, and we should win 99% of times. also, yash sending kill implies that the last goon is someone who's sred more by the players as compared to yash, thus my townreads are even stronger now. pkq-conf town unless zol sub ccs. if he is cced, he's traitor. because why did he try to explain he was conf town when EVERYONE already said he was? its like he couldn't believe it himself, hence why he explained, but let's see. neo/zol-townlean(being pushed by yash, but then why did he unlynch?) chad- conf town ayia-obv town, also did you backstab lieb somewhere too, cuz the way hes tunneling you lmao lieb- idk, but the last line by yash when he asked lieb and chad thiughts on zol seemed non scum-scum, but im not sure. I liked their later reactions, but some of their reads do not make sense and they have not done well to explain them.(eg. tunneling ayia, sring me and quo,) also reading back, what made you believ bgb had a good start? it was p mid don't you think? btw that one comment "idc if I'm tunneling, if I'm tunneling maf" I don't agree with ideology, I just fucked with the confidence. bgb7- scumlean, the yash-bgb interaction was defo not scum-scum, but the bgb hammer was sort of off. "all alignment aside, it was fun playing with you" when there was barely anything that really happened between them, except for the 'schia op' exchange? the myo-lieb post was also very mid. litt-obv town, hard pushed by yash when maf was not in position to bus. qtball-obv town (but then this is tbz, can he bus two partners d1?) myo-todays lynch fenrir/fj-obv town quojova-obv town myo=>bgb=>lieb=>neo wins most of the times. lynch ddw/myo/arci can give more explanation wherever if needed, so ask, but I really don't see the point cuz everything is very transparent. also some obv towns in my list can be traitor, but they do not matter here really. also, wow am I a tryhard wow prewriting a post when the game is like 25% to already be over from SoD, now that's tryharding i admire your resolve though |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 26, 2020 10:03:24 GMT
Votecount Update 3.0
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Post by myo! on Jun 26, 2020 13:08:17 GMT
good morning i am half awake
so ok chad is tracker
good to know
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Post by bluegummybear on Jun 26, 2020 13:36:49 GMT
Player readlist stage 1(1/2)
also @lifesucc whats your reasoning for lynching me again When tremenon interacted with him it seems like a “hey townie why are you on me” Which makes me think he's townie because of that. Have not read him personally but i dont sense any scum vibes from him now that i think about it if ayia is making a vendetta read on PKQ (not saying he is just in the instance of it) then ayia is likely town too ...? anyway id rather a trem vote here so UNVOTE AYIA VOTE TREMENONalso apologies for the use of the word lynch earlier i keep forgetting to use vote instead, will try better in the future - Town Don't think this target would bus their partner. His interactions in that moment seem pure same with other posts in day 2 just seems Pure townieness. The way i think about it now is that if i dont have a good lynch i shouldnt throw my lynch around just to lynch, so if i dont find a good lynch tonight thats the way i think about it This is an excuse. Town or scum, this is an excuse NAI tho tbh also @lifesucc whats your reasoning for lynching me again this was explained I don't think reasoning on this is as strong as PKQ since PKQ was just blatantly shooting down my questions but w/e this is fine as well Think Trem scum implies Scept/Tbz town so it's also good info Unlynch, Lynch Trem- Town He doesn't seem someone who would of bussed there + his interactions with them.
SRs 2) ZoL - For someone who's actually good at Mafia, I fail to see why they've done absolutely nothing useful this game.
Other Plausible SRs: Myo, TBZ
chad lieb what are your thoughts on ZoL? Since you two are active on the thread at the time I'm posting this, I wanna hear your opinions on this slot - Town leanKnowing that Chad is confirm town, Does that mean This is a post where yash stated town in all 3 post. But more importantly I was thinking that Zol slot might be town because of these statements by yash.
Star symbol - scumlean- Where have you been at man, I been waiting to see some post from you so I could interact with you and develop a read. I think you have a high potential of being the last scum. I would like to see some new content from you. Side Note:
Btw Town is in a great position right now. It Should be an easy game from this point forward |
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Post by bluegummybear on Jun 26, 2020 13:38:52 GMT
good morning i am half awake so ok chad is tracker good to know Good morning |
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Post by bluegummybear on Jun 26, 2020 13:44:50 GMT
What are the Chances that all 3 scum where on pkq day 1. 🤔 Votecount Update 1.5
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Post by chad on Jun 26, 2020 14:14:37 GMT
I tracked Lieb, also I kinda figured mafia wouldn't shoot anywhere here. Lieb didn't go anywhere.
Unless something else could have stopped the shot
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Post by chad on Jun 26, 2020 14:15:49 GMT
I feel like the other tracker should just claim at this point so we can get another confirmed town
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Post by chad on Jun 26, 2020 14:23:39 GMT
What are the Chances that all 3 scum where on pkq day 1. 🤔 Votecount Update 1.5
We have the leeway to test this, but I think its still a stretch and very unlikely. I only checked greninja because throughout day 1 he had very iffy posts, its true his vote didn't help,. but this posts felt more like they were from scum than town. |
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Post by chad on Jun 26, 2020 14:28:06 GMT
This post was written before nk.chad claiming tracker so late was a misplay, but it wroked out so eh. this is now p much solved, the way yash was pushing that someone on trem is scum, really means noone on trem was scum ill just give all my reads and the limitted scumpool, and we should win 99% of times. also, yash sending kill implies that the last goon is someone who's sred more by the players as compared to yash, thus my townreads are even stronger now. pkq-conf town unless zol sub ccs. if he is cced, he's traitor. because why did he try to explain he was conf town when EVERYONE already said he was? its like he couldn't believe it himself, hence why he explained, but let's see. neo/zol-townlean(being pushed by yash, but then why did he unlynch?) chad- conf town ayia-obv town, also did you backstab lieb somewhere too, cuz the way hes tunneling you lmao lieb- idk, but the last line by yash when he asked lieb and chad thiughts on zol seemed non scum-scum, but im not sure. I liked their later reactions, but some of their reads do not make sense and they have not done well to explain them.(eg. tunneling ayia, sring me and quo,) also reading back, what made you believ bgb had a good start? it was p mid don't you think? btw that one comment "idc if I'm tunneling, if I'm tunneling maf" I don't agree with ideology, I just fucked with the confidence. bgb7- scumlean, the yash-bgb interaction was defo not scum-scum, but the bgb hammer was sort of off. "all alignment aside, it was fun playing with you" when there was barely anything that really happened between them, except for the 'schia op' exchange? the myo-lieb post was also very mid. litt-obv town, hard pushed by yash when maf was not in position to bus. qtball-obv town (but then this is tbz, can he bus two partners d1?) myo-todays lynch fenrir/fj-obv town quojova-obv town myo=>bgb=>lieb=>neo wins most of the times. lynch ddw/myo/arci can give more explanation wherever if needed, so ask, but I really don't see the point cuz everything is very transparent. also some obv towns in my list can be traitor, but they do not matter here really. also, wow am I a tryhard Just going to put you in my town core and move forward lol. |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 26, 2020 14:44:19 GMT
act bgb makes good point, but I'm willing to do this rn.
also tracker claiming is eh, when you can hypo to a better effect. ps: pls hypo someone who is a scumlean to you, if you hypo townreads you're telling scum you're not tracker.
bgb went nowhere.
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Post by quojova on Jun 26, 2020 14:47:03 GMT
act bgb makes good point, but I'm willing to do this rn. also tracker claiming is eh, when you can hypo to a better effect. ps: pls hypo someone who is a scumlean to you, if you hypo townreads you're telling scum you're not tracker. bgb went nowhere. tbh hypoing is kinda hard to actually do here. You have to hypo a scumlean or you're obviously not tracker, but if you hypo them and still continue to scumlean them it's again obvious you aren't tracker. |
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Post by Schrodinger on Jun 26, 2020 14:49:02 GMT
tru but is it worse than having two-three clears? I don't think so.
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