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Post by cayden on Jul 19, 2020 13:34:29 GMT
Ngl I dont think its ayia cause micro was town so lynch vigilant vigiroth
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Post by chad on Jul 19, 2020 13:39:44 GMT
I think ayia been thrown under the buss at this point as an option that is.
A vig vig world can exist, but last time I checked someone was saying I was scum with vig vig? Unless I am misremembering.
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Post by ayia on Jul 19, 2020 15:33:45 GMT
Lynch chad that’s enough
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Post by chad on Jul 19, 2020 15:48:25 GMT
...I just defended you, what even.
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Post by myo! on Jul 19, 2020 16:34:09 GMT
ok so!
there's a very specific thing I'm super confused about and want to talk about
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Post by myo! on Jul 19, 2020 16:35:45 GMT
I want to note that it's likely if there's still mafia left, they're not exactly the brightest, or a certain someone would be dead right now.
more importantly, the last mafia would be someone that this specific person has NOT talked to at all.
I'm going to be asking them for further info, and their opinion. If anyone else wants to pitch in, feel free to tell me.
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Post by ayia on Jul 19, 2020 18:18:56 GMT
I want to note that it's likely if there's still mafia left, they're not exactly the brightest, or a certain someone would be dead right now. more importantly, the last mafia would be someone that this specific person has NOT talked to at all. I'm going to be asking them for further info, and their opinion. If anyone else wants to pitch in, feel free to tell me. I mean that would imply cayden but Also, chad hasn’t been paying attention lol
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Post by myo! on Jul 19, 2020 21:26:07 GMT
ok follow up time
so i talked with the person who should realistically be dead and it looks like there wouldn't be any mafia left just by the fact that this someone is still alive. either that or they're actually just really bad at the game. so I think now is the point we stop and start looking at like isos and stuff to find a solo.
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Post by ayia on Jul 19, 2020 21:29:16 GMT
ok follow up time so i talked with the person who should realistically be dead and it looks like there wouldn't be any mafia left just by the fact that this someone is still alive. either that or they're actually just really bad at the game. so I think now is the point we stop and start looking at like isos and stuff to find a solo. can we lynch chad
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Post by myo! on Jul 19, 2020 21:37:39 GMT
...I just defended you, what even. oh yeah i should talk about this didn't you use that argument against tbz last game when he was right on a read??? like chad what are you saying sir "i just defended you why are you not townreading me wtf" i'm just ugh!!!! nope lynch chadgoodbye chadmd 💅
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Post by yashgreninja on Jul 19, 2020 21:40:49 GMT
lynch chad
POE + never responded to me asking him to claim + inactivity just screams scum
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jul 19, 2020 21:45:57 GMT
lynch chad
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 19, 2020 21:47:43 GMT
Hammer. Sit tight.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 19, 2020 21:57:22 GMT
HAMMERchad has been eliminated! They were... Dear Chad,
You are LIANNE LA HAVAS You are a budding English songwriter, with an affinity for the softer side of R&B.
Everybody raise a glass, oh
here’s to a good goodbye
Each night, you may submit the name of another living player. In the event that you are voted out the following day, that player will be eliminated as well.
You are aligned with the WEREWOLVES.
You win when all players without a Werewolf wincon are eliminated and at least one Werewolf-aligned player is still alive (or nothing can prevent the same). With them, yashgreninja has been eliminated as well! They were... Dear YashGreninja,
You are BEATRICE MARTIN, of COEUR DE PIRATE, Quebecoise singer-songwriter. After a French-language self-titled debut , you rose to prominence in the indie pop community with sophomore release Blonde.
Et tu m'as volé ce qu'il reste de l'été
Des berceuses que tu chantais pour me calmer
Each night, you may target a living player. You will steal something from this player, giving you insight into their role and flavor, in addition to any song provided in their role PM.
You are aligned with TOWN.
You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same. Which means...
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 19, 2020 22:03:09 GMT
GG WEREWOLVES!Dear Vigilante Vigoroth, You are MITSKI MIYAWAKI. Despite reports to the contrary, you do in fact know your geography.
Texas is a land-locked state
It's a little bit far away
Each night, you may target a living player. This player will be roleblocked, and you will learn which player(s) they targeted.
You are aligned with the WEREWOLVES.
You win when all players without a Mafia wincon are eliminated and at least one Mafia-aligned player is still alive (or nothing can prevent the same).
Dear Ayia, You are WILL TOLEDO, of CAR SEAT HEADREST. You are as anxious as you are talented. Rest assured, there is absolutely nothing wrong with liking dogs.
I am inseparable from the impossible
I want gravity to stop for me
Once per game, you may target a living player. You will learn which player(s) targeted this player at night, but not which actions were used. Additionally, once per game, you may target another player to prevent their actions from failing for that night. On a night that you choose, you may become bulletproof, allowing yourself to survive any nightkills targeting you that night.
You are aligned with the WEREWOLVES.
You win when all players without a Werewolf wincon are eliminated and at least one Werewolf-aligned player is still alive (or nothing can prevent the same).
Dear Chad, You are LIANNE LA HAVAS You are a budding English songwriter, with an affinity for the softer side of R&B.
Everybody raise a glass, oh
here’s to a good goodbye
Each night, you may submit the name of another living player. In the event that you are voted out the following day, that player will be eliminated as well.
You are aligned with the WEREWOLVES.
You win when all players without a Werewolf wincon are eliminated and at least one Werewolf-aligned player is still alive (or nothing can prevent the same).
Welcome to the Werewolves. Please confirm receipt upon receiving your Role PMs. Points & standings will be updated shortly! Thanks for playing, everyone
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Post by yashgreninja on Jul 19, 2020 22:07:09 GMT
Literally said to Arc that if Ayia was scum the game was over because nobody else was active in the game :/
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Post by ®➕➕ on Jul 20, 2020 13:18:42 GMT
was this the eimm practice game
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 28, 2020 20:15:31 GMT
Wow, definitely meant to drop this sooner, but life certainly has a way of getting in the way of these things. Here's points & post-game notes, thanks for your patience: PointsFor most of you, I don't think this scoring will come as a surprise. I think it's best understood, though, if we break things down faction by faction. MafiaDay 1 activity hurt you guys, and though there were some outside factors affecting this (in some cases, beyond your control), unfortunately I don't think the team ever quite recovered from it. Being absent from a lot of those early game conversations played a hand in the team's inability to prepare for things like Micro's Tracker claim, or Scept coordinating his Desperado shots, but I think the biggest way it hurt you was that it put you in bad standing with the rest of the playerlist by default. I wouldn't say I'm a fan of how quickly Yash's campaign took off (though I'll say that OC cushions some of the damage that hammers like that can cause), but securing the early hammer definitely wouldn't have happened so effortlessly if Eblurb had any kind of meaningful game presence. Spiderz's death was also pretty much written in stone - by the time he was in a position to do anything about it, Scept was pretty much deadset on the shot. Any measures taken to save Spiderz there (for example, by JKing him) would've still ended with Scept alive and Spidey conf'd to him as scum. Though I don't know that I would have done the same, the kingmake was a hail Mary, and a respectable one at that. TownTown put up a pretty solid fight this game. Most obvious example of this is probably PTSD's towncore--he spent a lot of Day 1 probing various townslots for tonal reads and early information, and after Nymphoing Gary basically had a direct line to Cop and a decently safe information network. Town was able to quickly generate and coordinate clears, with PTSD serving as a hub--managing player interactions verifying claims, and basically treating the threat of his death as a flaregun in the event that anything fell into the wrong hands. Overall, activity was pretty healthy within the town. With maybe three exceptions on a roster of 14 (though none so severe as to warrant substitution), Town did the bare minimum work of showing up--and in cases were folks were absent for longer stretches, they did a fairly decent job of maintaining some presence in 1-on-1 convos and OC venues. Slots that may have been started as nullreads were, for the most part, pretty decent at establishing themselves as townreads--something that can ultimately be attributed to candor, especially in the cases of folks like Cayden. A similar candor helped turn things like the Day 1 mislynch into a net gain for town: the end of day wagon movements and the claims surrounding them worked quite visibly as townies negotiating amongst themselves to see who could best serve the team, rather than scum bargaining for town to settle. Tb2, micro, and scept deserve a hand for cleanly taking control of that situation. The trade-off, of course, is that by allowing so much of town's mobilization to take place in private convos and groupchats, scum had an excuse to be less public as well. Quojova had the right idea, I think, in pushing to keep things as out-in-the-open as possible by vying for more in-thread game content. Had he survived long enough to continue that push, players like Ayia would've had a harder time holding up to scrutiny. Speaking of which-- Werewolves--let's talk about our wolves. In the graveyard, I half-joked that Ayia was basically playing Survivor. In context, it was a throwaway comment about his campaign to get some early votes to build into wagons he preferred, but looking at the game as a whole, it's undeniable that he played a remarkable social game. His commitment to behind-the-scenes trustbuilding landed him pretty comfortably within the towncore, to the extent that he had easy access to town's Parity Cop, their Desperado, and their Thief/Role Cop. Even if suspicion had swelled to the point where Ayia was at risk of being voted out, most of Town's intel was already in the hands of the Werewolves as a faction--Ayia was essentially playing for three people. I'd go so far as to say the early kill on Rb was negligible, too: Singer revealed Rb as Faith Healer, but without that information, Werewolves were still quite well-positioned to take out the Nympho-Cop core whenever they pleased while blocking Micro. By endgame, when it was time to hardbus Chad and trigger his Vengeful to take the win, no one was ever going to question him. Hostsheetdocs.google.com/document/d/13WhBFn-vQUDbGM1z4RMA0THQeege_M8zxk1aT2aWIic/edit?usp=sharingMisc. Notes• Put a lot of effort into balancing this setup for Multiball OC while still maintaining the role madness elements. Town had a lot of firepower (four investigative roles, two protective roles, two killing roles), but a lot of that firepower was built to be conditionally useful, with optimal play requiring a decent amount of interaction to yield the best results (for things like the Thief, the Desperado or the Faith Healer for example). A few negs were thrown into the mix to keep things from getting too procedural, and to give 3-man scumteams a fighting chance against not only the town, but each other. I'm pretty satisfied with the results, but any feedback on the setup would be greatly appreciated. • Cayden being uni-TR'd but also widely shrugged off by his fellow townies was pretty rough to watch--it made it extremely easy for scum to disregard his reads without engaging, especially considering that his reads were among the most accurate in the game. Having reads means nothing if you don't push those reads, but if someone has a persistent read on a major slot, that's generally worth unpacking. • For every lurker, there's a player allowing them to lurk.
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