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Post by quojova on Aug 11, 2020 20:01:50 GMT
I see too many people susing vig but not voting. Vote vigvigIf it is between fjp and fort I would rather vote fjp just because they seem to fit into more teams than fort does. Any of fort/fjp/vigvig are good votes today though. Can you give me a concise run-down of the vigvig case? I don't really see micro/vigvig working and I think enough pressure has been applied that fort/fjp (maybe PTSD but big doubt) are the only viable partners. I take slight issue in a non-scum sense with how you think there are three "good" votes today. If we miss today we often just lose the game, which in my eyes makes the good votes the ones that are most likely to yield scum. Is your exact read that the three scum are in those three?
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Post by quojova on Aug 11, 2020 20:03:11 GMT
I see too many people susing vig but not voting. Vote vigvigIf it is between fjp and fort I would rather vote fjp just because they seem to fit into more teams than fort does. Any of fort/fjp/vigvig are good votes today though. Can you give me a concise run-down of the vigvig case? I don't really see micro/vigvig working and I think enough pressure has been applied that fort/fjp (maybe PTSD but big doubt) are the only viable partners. I take slight issue in a non-scum sense with how you think there are three "good" votes today. If we miss today we often just lose the game, which in my eyes makes the good votes the ones that are most likely to yield scum. Is your exact read that the three scum are in those three? Or more rather that the three scum are extremely likely to be exactly those three?
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 11, 2020 20:31:36 GMT
Don't we have two vote chances here? I would be surprised if we voted any two of these and didn't get at least one scum.
imo vigvig=fjp>fort. I'm voting vigvig right now because I want to keep this wagon option open. As for why I suspect vigvig other than fitting on a team with either xnad or micro, I didn't like how he went for the easy gary wagon on day 2 and I don't like the seeming reluctance to vote him today.
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Post by quojova on Aug 11, 2020 20:46:44 GMT
Don't we have two vote chances here? I would be surprised if we voted any two of these and didn't get at least one scum. imo vigvig=fjp>fort. I'm voting vigvig right now because I want to keep this wagon option open. As for why I suspect vigvig other than fitting on a team with either xnad or micro, I didn't like how he went for the easy gary wagon on day 2 and I don't like the seeming reluctance to vote him today. fair enough, I guess vigvig is an okay vote but my preference still lies in fjp/fort. How does micro/vigvig fit together for you? The primary reason I prefer fjp to vigvig atm is because I don't see micro/vigvig very easily while micro/fjp feels very natural, given the strange lack of connection between the two. It doesn't feel like those micro votes are a bus to me, not when vigvig was seriously on the brink of elimination at d3.
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Post by quojova on Aug 11, 2020 21:24:56 GMT
Don't we have two vote chances here? I would be surprised if we voted any two of these and didn't get at least one scum. imo vigvig=fjp>fort. I'm voting vigvig right now because I want to keep this wagon option open. As for why I suspect vigvig other than fitting on a team with either xnad or micro, I didn't like how he went for the easy gary wagon on day 2 and I don't like the seeming reluctance to vote him today. fair enough, I guess vigvig is an okay vote but my preference still lies in fjp/fort. How does micro/vigvig fit together for you? The primary reason I prefer fjp to vigvig atm is because I don't see micro/vigvig very easily while micro/fjp feels very natural, given the strange lack of connection between the two. It doesn't feel like those micro votes are a bus to me, not when vigvig was seriously on the brink of elimination at d3. I think vigvig is more likely than fjp to be 3p from some lines in fjp's iso, and I don't have my priorities in terms of 3p/maf sorted rn but depending how I feel about that vig might be where I end up I'd like to hear fort's take on the wagons though, although if he is scum that analysis is going to be super wifomy I'll try to have my finalish stance on the wagons within like 3 hours
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Post by quojova on Aug 11, 2020 21:52:53 GMT
ptsd I know this is from 6 days ago but do you remember why you unlynched vigvig in this post? It seems super out-of-nowhere and the parts of your iso around vigvig stick out to me ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/69658/thread
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Post by quojova on Aug 11, 2020 22:00:55 GMT
ptsd I know this is from 6 days ago but do you remember why you unlynched vigvig in this post? It seems super out-of-nowhere and the parts of your iso around vigvig stick out to me ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/69658/threadoh I missed an explanation post from ptsd in the middle, ignore this
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Post by VigilanteVigoroth on Aug 11, 2020 23:29:26 GMT
The fact that I TR someone doesnt mean its impossible for them to be scum You could be partners with puff or quo or padg or anyone or heck maybe the roleblockers dead and ur partners with xinc
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Post by passthesaltdude on Aug 12, 2020 0:29:52 GMT
The fact that I TR someone doesnt mean its impossible for them to be scum You could be partners with puff or quo or padg or anyone or heck maybe the roleblockers dead and ur partners with xinc Yes, but you found me as scum using Poe, and when there’s 2 other scum left, finding 1 scum with Poe, they probably means you didn’t Poe correctly So why Puff quo, Padgett? Why not Fort? Let’s say I flip mafia, and it’s known I have 2 partners left, who are they? And why? Is it further Poe or do you have a reason! Because I’m curious to see why fort can’t be my partner!
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Post by quojova on Aug 12, 2020 0:43:13 GMT
I'm leaning vigvig > fjp more as time goes on, tbh the fjp/micro scumteam connection is weak at best and mostly comes from poe. despite that I still don't really see vigvig/micro scumteam though, I think the chance one of them is 3p is reasonably high but I don't see how micro pushes vigvig as partners there.
It feels weird to push fort without him here since he's been here all game since d2 but at this point I don't know if he'll be back by EoD. The things I don't like about this slot are (some to most have already been stated prior): -pushed the cayden slot as the best lynch for a long amount of time when by his own admission it was pretty much a 4/10 roll, which, no matter how much you state "policy" is a seriously anti-town move to the point where it looks motivated by a scum agenda. The problem with this push is that there would have been basically no accountability on fort if cayden flipped town, because he didn't even hold the position that cayden was necessarily scum himself. -fort bussing micro is not necessarily likely but plausible, especially since ptsd has previously indicated his willingness to switch. -partners with vigvig is reasonably likely after checking isos, this can be discussed in detail further -minor point, but essentially no partners are out of the question, fjp/ptsd also work in combination with fort -d4 has been very weak so far, not just in terms of low activity, sticks on cayden and bizarrely expands poe to make a me/micro scumteam possible -I also simply have no reason to tr this slot right now so at best it is neutral for me. I asked before and I'm open to discussing this though because I clearly hold an opposite position to some, why do some tr it?
overall my opinion on vigvig has changed, I think he is a good kill now, partially due to vigvig/fort scumteam potential, and I think fjp/fort is a bit weaker although definitely possible
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Post by quojova on Aug 12, 2020 0:49:37 GMT
I don't think I ever win this game if padgett is maf, and I think I'm resigned to that
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Post by quojova on Aug 12, 2020 0:58:57 GMT
I'm also leaning micro as 3p more as time goes on, which raises the chances of xnad maf so I looked into that some.
All I have to say there is that if xnad is maf, he's good at not leaking partners, and I think xnad/ptsd definitely possible although not something I'd like to bet on today
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Aug 12, 2020 1:07:50 GMT
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Post by quojova on Aug 12, 2020 1:10:33 GMT
unvote fort vote vigvig
unvote vigvig vote fort
idk if this works exactly like I think it does but my intention is to shift plur while keeping votes the same to incite action
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Post by xinc on Aug 12, 2020 2:22:27 GMT
unvote fortvote vigvigunvote vigvigvote fortidk if this works exactly like I think it does but my intention is to shift plur while keeping votes the same to incite action That's some top tier voting
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 12, 2020 2:22:31 GMT
Don't we have two vote chances here? I would be surprised if we voted any two of these and didn't get at least one scum. imo vigvig=fjp>fort. I'm voting vigvig right now because I want to keep this wagon option open. As for why I suspect vigvig other than fitting on a team with either xnad or micro, I didn't like how he went for the easy gary wagon on day 2 and I don't like the seeming reluctance to vote him today. fair enough, I guess vigvig is an okay vote but my preference still lies in fjp/fort. How does micro/vigvig fit together for you? The primary reason I prefer fjp to vigvig atm is because I don't see micro/vigvig very easily while micro/fjp feels very natural, given the strange lack of connection between the two. It doesn't feel like those micro votes are a bus to me, not when vigvig was seriously on the brink of elimination at d3. Ok I'll count out a micro/vig team. You seem to think ptsd/fort is more likely than ptsd/fjp. Why is that?
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Post by xinc on Aug 12, 2020 2:24:13 GMT
The fact that I TR someone doesnt mean its impossible for them to be scum You could be partners with puff or quo or padg or anyone or heck maybe the roleblockers dead and ur partners with xinc Did we not cover a few pages back that I'm a tourist?
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Post by Veteran Padgett on Aug 12, 2020 2:33:42 GMT
Xinc wtf are you
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Post by passthesaltdude on Aug 12, 2020 2:43:41 GMT
The fact that I TR someone doesnt mean its impossible for them to be scum You could be partners with puff or quo or padg or anyone or heck maybe the roleblockers dead and ur partners with xinc Did we not cover a few pages back that I'm a tourist? You claimed to be roleblocker earlier, make up your fucking mind, cayden is a doc and he can doc you, so if you are roleblocker, just claim!!!
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Post by passthesaltdude on Aug 12, 2020 2:44:21 GMT
fair enough, I guess vigvig is an okay vote but my preference still lies in fjp/fort. How does micro/vigvig fit together for you? The primary reason I prefer fjp to vigvig atm is because I don't see micro/vigvig very easily while micro/fjp feels very natural, given the strange lack of connection between the two. It doesn't feel like those micro votes are a bus to me, not when vigvig was seriously on the brink of elimination at d3. Ok I'll count out a micro/vig team. You seem to think ptsd/fort is more likely than ptsd/fjp. Why is that? Idk maybe cause vote fjp but then again, idk.
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Post by quojova on Aug 12, 2020 2:52:27 GMT
vote vigvig
really don't like ptsd's unexplained vote here, would strongly ask people to shift onto vigvig
also xinc wtf
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Post by quojova on Aug 12, 2020 2:54:16 GMT
xinc please shift to vigvig
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Post by quojova on Aug 12, 2020 2:57:09 GMT
fair enough, I guess vigvig is an okay vote but my preference still lies in fjp/fort. How does micro/vigvig fit together for you? The primary reason I prefer fjp to vigvig atm is because I don't see micro/vigvig very easily while micro/fjp feels very natural, given the strange lack of connection between the two. It doesn't feel like those micro votes are a bus to me, not when vigvig was seriously on the brink of elimination at d3. Ok I'll count out a micro/vig team. You seem to think ptsd/fort is more likely than ptsd/fjp. Why is that? what makes you think that? I don't think I had thought those specific scumpairs out in tandem until you just mentioned them.
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Post by quojova on Aug 12, 2020 2:58:50 GMT
I still tr xinc, if the fake pr soft was working perfectly well for him I think his scumteam would tell him to just keep doing it
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Post by passthesaltdude on Aug 12, 2020 3:01:26 GMT
vote vigvigreally don't like ptsd's unexplained vote here, would strongly ask people to shift onto vigvig also xinc wtf I was looking back at the lynched day 1-3 and it just seems off to me, the fact that the slot didn’t really come in to good day 3 and is silent all of today. Seems off to me. I’m fine with a vigvig lynch as well here but they were the counter wagon to micro, and that has to mean at least something( but micro might have been goo so Idk) Anyways FJP iso was just some talk about 4 deaths and a mostly random lynch on the Cayden wagon. Really it was a lot of stuff that was already said!! Nvm on the weird lynch comments, since both lynched have been a start of day lynch and then a disappearance. It’s a weird pattern ngl. Still the slot feels really off to me, but I’m fine with a vigvig lynch as well, since they have yet to give thoughts on my scum partners!!!
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