Summary of gamestate
Entrances/Early filler
Litt- Generic NAI
PTSD- An entrance with effort. Had to look up the flavor. Then realized cant glean anything conclusive from it.
Kaif- NAI
Sky- NAI
Scept NAI
SSR- Probably the only actually townie entry. Starts as lean town.
Ayia- ?_?
Sky post 2 is nice
Derz- NAI. Throws out a sky tr. Still NAI. Claims Stump. Not NAI anymore. Unprompted claim. Worth Visiting or maybe its derz being derz and not caring
Edj- late, passive entry with a harmless omgus. Derz hijacks the follow up demanding pressure (Derz
Idk man, I dont like you passing up on pressuring the slot, not thats it's necessarily scummy but it's an opportunity to develop a read on him
)
Notable reactions to derz:
1) ptsd actually being townie by asking for the nature of the claim. PTSD now leans town.
2) scept absolving him of all doubt of being scum/faking stump. Scept now leans scum.
Aite.
Posts you can make reads off of and notable convos section goes here.
PTSD: (Possibly the strongest town post I’ve seen yet, ptsd is now a TR)
Not a lot to go with yet considering we only have 2 people really talking but let me give some quick thoughts on the interaction at hand. Sceptorus reason to lynch me feels a lot like Litts where you hope that the person will do something to justify it after you lynch them. And no I’m not just only now realizing what pressure is.I’m not a huge fan of the way Sceptorus addressed the idea of chap being town because the acknowledged that scum could be include a solo role. Though spiderz has already touched on that enough, and it could just Sceptorus trying to get early game reads out to start conversation.No entrance has really pegged me as anything special yet, and I doubt there’s a point to read into most of them as they are simple meme posts posted by rvs
Scept making literally the most basic NAI post with some lean town effort (looking up a previous game) and voting completely unrelated to that and acknowledging a shitpost but spiderz refuses to let go and tries to GTH . Basically see a confused scept in the following two posts and then finding his footing. (PTSD)
Derz gets on PTSD post about scept trying to be a convo starter (which is the more rational choice considering the game barely started ) but derz puts it in a black or white absolute about townie pressure or scum. Absolutely reckless and anti town narrative
Sky- Says TvT on Scept vs Derz, attempts to make a post with substance, then completely walks it back in the next sentence for a grand nothing post, calls the reasoning dumb (which I agree with), then basically says that derz called it NAI which is actually false.
Sky leans scum.
.Me vs derz happens. Litt is the only one who makes sense.
Scept makes a few non-committal posts.
Sky still blindly sheeps about needing a tvt reasoning when he asked for none from derz on his pressure nor did he provide any for his tvt reasoning. Sky leans scum a bit more.
Aftermath of me vs derz
PTSD refuses to play mafia.
Chap comes in to restore order.
Derz wonders if my ‘PO playstyle’ is superior and I’m looking down on him. (Yes)
PTSD asks for a lot of things, spins a lot of sentences, says a lot of nothing and constantly ATEs. PTSD leans scum from town now.
Final Reads for now
PTSD- Lean Scum
Sky- Lean Scum
Scept- Null
Kaif- Town
Ayia- Town
Chaos- Null
Edj-Null
Spiderz- Neg Util hormonal imbalanced Townie
Chap- Town
SSR- Town
The CONTINUATION (Page 9 and onwards)
Derz throws out a Chap Scept Sky pool
I appreciate this edj post the most
Alright I’m tired of this Me VS CL shit anyways. I dislike the slot but it’s obvious lynching it goes nowhere today.
I do agree that a lot of Sky’s posts have a whole lot of nothing in them. It just reiterates what other players said and came off as passive.
The same can be said for edjean but I think spiderz brought up the point that edjean was consistently passive.
Yall why tf do people keep bringing up that I'm passive when I was literally fuckin castrated last game just for having a lean on bgb d1. I had like 3 posts at the time and fsr that was enough for half the pl to start eyeing me? Damn.
I especially hate how basically Kaif's first message was "edj scum" but he has been starting to read other people so I won't take it to heart <3
Has there been a better townie comeback?
Derz reads it and says edj is obv town now, forgets about it and says edj is obv scum 5 mins later.
Ayia comes in and completely runs through the game
You come to the same exact conclusions as me but then side with CL their its so funny, did you read the contents of CL's posts or?? this is personal bias to the max max max, cuz if you think CL wasn't alienating anyone and everyone who called him out on his weird bullshit that i dont know what to tell you
Just because I say a read is valid doesn't mean I have to agree lol
I'm agreeing with the fact that you were being dramatic and childish
If anything I have a personal bias that favors you, not CL, so please back off!
This post will be funny for several reasons later on.
Rn my scumpool is sky and litt, but I reaaaally need more from like 4 other people so
for now
Unlynch Chap
Lynch Litt until they can come back and start making more reads.
Chaos, Ayia, SSR - Let's hear some analysis
This will be important later on.
Chaos is weird....? His lynch on ptsd has just enough material to not call it a coast but falls outside low effort town stereotype.
Chaos is now slightly SL (SSL?) day 1
Ok before I post I'd like to say that for those of you who don't know my schedule I work Monday - Friday from 6PM to 1 AM of I'm a little inactive that's why. Also if you want me to see something or react to something it has to be before then
With all that out of the way time for me to actually play the game.
Cl vs Derz is fucking stupid and you guys are wasting town's time and the day time on it. I don't like how Litt lynched cl it felt forced.
litteleven what reason did you Lynch Cl and what in your eyes makes him a better pressure / Lynch target to you then say Sky, Edjean, SSR and Chaos all of whom haven't said anything relevant or important to the game.
weird take w/ calling it forced given i explained in depth why derz's take was fine and why pushing derz to an sr from those words was not a logical jump, reread and ping me if you want specifics
making rage posts is never pro-town hence analysing the slot takes first priority always; circumstances like derz claiming treestump and getting lynched over what seemed to me a trivial exchange only cemented that fact.
a scummy slot is def better to push than a non posting slot, I'm going to assume you're making this as a post-emptive read AFTER cl started being townread. When read in the correct order of posts, cl's sr post on derz did not make sense, which is something I don't think you're factoring in here.
This is not too important since he walks it back later on but its an interesting take since no order is actually mentioned.
Because there is none. No one else had an issue with the 'order of my posts', this is also a departure from Litts previous takes,
enough to be a direct contradiction
Eye will only accept a Litt/Sky/Edjean lynch today
Scept is TOWN I put this on my grandmother's grave. If Scept Flips scum I will Twerk on livestream
what the fuck
the dare posted implies you TR scept and this isn't a mason pairing or similar. How the fuck did you get to this conclusion
Ok, this is a townie post from Litt. Nicely done.
Scept is town because I said so
Besides spiderz everyone who's Pushed Scept or said Scept was scummy for not bringing anything new to the table has themselves done the exact same thing and Scept is just a super obv easy scum push at this point. He's the "I need a SR rn so I don't look like I only TR players" read and in other words the low effort read. He's also been way more active and way more of an important figure in the game then these people are giving him credit for.
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I brought up a specific interaction that should be always countered by town because it's weak in nature and a counter explanation is literally right there. (check ISO i'm too lazy to bring it up), yet it's unrefuted and stands. Signals 2 things: either a) scept doesn't want to offend potential town b) scept doesn't believe in his own initial read despite making it. I understand this was made at an early point in the game but that's the exact best time to advance thoughts not just be inactive there, hence scept read makes sense there
also 'low effort read' doesn't mean jack for you tring him here. Easy push is not exclusive of being scum. In this case you should like call out lazy reads or those made with malicious intentions not gaslight people with an actual read in the process
This the kind of shit that irks me. This is clearly anti town. Litt is basically excusing lazy behavior here essentially saying a non confirmed town aligned role can be excused for being consistently lazy.
Sounds like the textbook definition of Pressure to me
Now that I know that, allow me to continue
If that's the case why did you do anything with the slot after lynching? You didn't SR cl yet you didn't ask him anything important or anything at all and just let the vote stay there.
...
Same.
passthesaltdude - 4* (Archer , cl , chaostrodon , Edjeanerations )
Edjeanerations - 2 (chapterseven , ayia )
chapterseven - 1 (spiderz )
litteleven - 1 (skyfigueroa )
ayia - 1 (superstarsrock )
skyfigueroa - 1 (Kaif )
Scept calls out sky w/1 vote in page 14. Kaif screaming town rn. Makes a read,commits to vote, asks questions. Excellent all round.
(Litt has thrown out atleast 4 SRs and hasn't committed to voting anyone. The other notable exception is Scept who has the same MO)
Litt: at this point I'm fixated on that edje/scept has 1 scum in it but i have a truck of rereading to do. Assoc reads are in general much easier to derive hence prio is flip 1 scum and work from there for me. Action list =/= SR TR purely, of course. Filtering out the bs we see an edj/scept sr.
There is a clear logic jump as of page 14, litt has not cased to vote any SR after a throwaway vote on me, parked till he saw I'm not getting voted out day 1.
Litt is now an SR.
PTSD spews and kaif calls him out on it. PTSD shuts up. gg
going to split even and
vote skyfigueroa as a compromise, feels unpushed as a wagon here + I'm getting more mixed reactions from other slots as of late.
bounces to a scept vote immediately btw. This is actually why I had him as a TL in Page 16 but now in retrospect I’m regretting that post.
as far as uni trs go it's natural for town in danger to look to uni trs for scum, but scum is more likely to confirmation bias it. So spiderz I don't get who you want to case w/that statement since I'm assuming this speaks for the ptsd lynch
Another Nothing Post ™ .
Litt cases another non scum tell as a scumtell which is extremely favorable to a scum narrative.
Rereading the game in its entirety I am leaning with scept a little more here.
It’s weird that Litt became a unitownread despite the fact that they haven’t done too much to actually push the game state forward in a productive way, and their lynch on sceptorus feels incredibly weird to me, it came out of nowhere and actually just weirds me out.
As far as CL I’d love to see thoughts on the game now that you are back considering you’ve said you’ve been reading, how do you feel about Edjeans iso? And do you think there’s something off about Kaifs uni townread.
this is only funny because you posted a tr of me like v recently so I'm glad to hear you're either eager to drop your reads or put my name up as filler there
What’s funnier is that this is a direct contradiction to both of Litts meta posts. Funny how things change once you get SRd!
passthesaltdude - 4* (Archer , cl , chaostrodon , Edjeanerations )
Edjeanerations - 3 (chapterseven , ayia , spiderz )
skyfigueroa - 2 (Kaif , litteleven)
litteleven - 1 (skyfigueroa )
ayia - 1 (superstarsrock )
Hammer is 7.
Kaif and Litt are the only saving graces of Page 6, I worship everything they say
Especially when Kaif was like, the day is poisoned by CL vs Spiderz; I sobbed with joy as I finally felt understood
Kaif / Litt / CL / me towncore and that's on period!
which is basically forming a premature towncore while pocketing/forming a scum infested early towncore to mislead the vote is very sus.
the future posts do nothing to advance on these reads.
4. litt: i see what you mean by townie ass takes, but i dont see any reason why any of the posts from this slot wont come from a scum pov, but i feel like with so many trs on him that he got threadspew pocketed. staying null for one of you to explain this litt tr to me because i dont get it.
1. Ayia: idk why ppl tring this slot, their iso is filled with fallacies and unnatural progression that seem to just sheep the most unoriginal takes.
Are people noticing a pattern yet? Idk. I am though.
oh LMAO well now I really just wanna take litt off of my scumpool, since he was gonna make his way off it it anyways
missed this post, why do you think litt would have made it off your scumpool? didn't you press them for the reason of them being sus? in that case, isn't it better to just press someone else?
one of the reasons I townbinned you is because of the litt sus, I don't like you just completely retracting it like this like it never existed
Good townie post. But ARE PEOPLE SEEING THE PATTERN.
passthesaltdude - 5* (Archer , cl , chaostrodon , Edjeanerations , ayia )
skyfigueroa - 3 (Kaif , litteleven , spiderz )
Edjeanerations - 1 (chapterseven )
litteleven - 1 (skyfigueroa )
chaostrodon - 1 - (passthesaltdude )
The pattern… Help.. It’s too obvious..
(Litt uls sky later on)
PTSD recovery has been VERY GOOD as of now but would’ve been a nice info lynch(Page 21)
Litt uls and pretends to clairvoyant the sky town flip because he knows who scum is clearly.
skyfigueroa - 4* (Kaif , spiderz , Edjeanerations , passthesaltdude )
passthesaltdude - 3 (cl , chaostrodon , ayia )
Edjeanerations - 2 (chapterseven , Archer )
RIP Sky
Things get clearer now. Very much so.
Because here, the pattern breaks. Litt vs Scept is SvS or at the bare minimum a SvT.
Wanting to preserve sky and his basically worthless town contribution instead of edj who had a solid recovery to push him out simply to rush a wagon on him while fairly pocketing ptsd/ deeming him to not be a threat simply because he’s the leading vote so this is literally free town points.
The problem here is that we have so many scummy people here but we can't get them all at once so while idm a PTSD or Sky lynch I also want chaos gone. Now that Litt is just sheeping I'm gonna keep an eye on him as well because this is the first time Litt has lynched me all game I'm psure and I'd really like to know why
who are you appealing to here, and why
you literally flopped from 'ptsd should go' to "idm a ptsd or sky lynch" that progression just does not exist and you're throwing out additional names as if to remind town there are scummier people than you rather than try and get a good lynch off; why would you never case chaos at any prior time?
also, read has been there since forever I've just not acted on it at any point so I appreciate scept in town faith pushing my decision but that's not a sheep
the other votes are bad is case enough
Basically, Litt/Scept/Chaos scumpool.
The interactions between litt and scept are largely absent and only really substantive end of day 1.
Litt has pushed out non scum tells as scum and town behavior as anti town with a massive captain obvious moment stating the lack of info day 1. The issues with this are it serves no purpose, really is anti town behavior and makes justifying lynches gathered from info hard.
Every game establishes a unique set of tells which mafia either disprove or go along with to blend with town.
Litt has offended both, has mirrored scept pushes, tangentially targeted the same people without directly interacting with each other and thrown the weakest questions at scept. Ditto w/Scept against litt. Only place he actually corrects this is to push edj out of thin air with no reasoning for it which ironically makes you scummier.
The wagons also help in this case with this duo being the only one who divined sky was town last second but didn’t actually make a difference with their votes which is more classic scum 101.
What makes this different from town interactions in this game is simply the unwillingness to challenge each other which I only saw in derz and sky (which is why I had sky as an sr but ptsd had more value d1, since sky had enough uni srs and wasn’t affecting the gamestate at all I figured we could get him later)
Tldr today lynch pool is Litt,Scept,Chaos
And I’m starting with Litt.
vote litt 
