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Post by spiderz on Nov 4, 2020 12:02:06 GMT
Does no one read anything? Here's a preschool version. 1) Call scept vs derz tvt 2) derz calls it both a pocket and a deflection and implies im scum partner 3) I call derz out on this bs and derz goes into a meltdown saying I've lost my shit, am on an ego trip and made a nothing post and says I srd him (this is a change from his 'pocket' read literally one post before btw) ( harsh language litt?) (This is when I moved to null since his reaction was very unlike town) 4) I call out said meltdown and point out that his spin is not what I said and clearly lay it out and it gets buried in a pile of nonsense and derz calls out non scumtells and tries to STILL say that I called him neg util when until then I had not. (Not net positive simply meant null) 5) derz continues said meltdown by calling me dismissive when his MO in my interactions has been to do the exact same thing and putting words in my mouth and lying Litt: I'll pretend I didn't see that bro. I have also met my post quota I think and looks like no one is going to call anything else till 9am so NOW I can actually sleep. my issue here's that you DID say his reads were wrong while semi tring him off pmeta, goes against utility because town would interact with people you think as town to try and sell them on their POV => him considering that you said he was neg town is valid to understand, not words put in your mouth but it has significant subtext existing which means you're ignoring that part out of self image preservation which is NAI but you're making the jump to scumread spiderz over it instead of trying to solve their slot here, which makes me lean that you're doing it out of scum self pres; It's a valid thought process to have but this exact thought progression is just out of rage, and you're overcompensating with your scum read on derz ideally you can work to get out of this v easily but given you rng'd your tr list I'd want something constructive from you that actually helps town bc your current push doesn't outline what you think is scum about derz nor does this help anyone read either of you (please sleep, but reply to this when you're active again; not holding you up) Bassicly this rtx100 times the reason im hesitant to lynch is because it might just be townie with a hurt ego, which i think both of us see here, just hope he knows how ridic this shit is |
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Post by litteleven on Nov 4, 2020 12:04:03 GMT
doesn't read what I meant it to say
if you look at the sky post in a vacuum its very easy to make a post like that from scum pov that just meshes with existing reads and provides semblence of scumhunting without actually contributing useful thoughts on scumreads
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Post by spiderz on Nov 4, 2020 12:05:29 GMT
This read is so fucking awful from kaif that hes a town lean, also stop simping for CL and read bro not awful, but the original post went absolutely nowhere except for advise town? i didn't get an assoc read in any sort from the posts but this is v valid as an individual scumread because the points its pushing are basically skimming; even if you null the CL slot this is a scummy post to look at, cause 0 effective progression. What about this strikes you as awful here Its more of his clear cut simping of CL here |
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Post by spiderz on Nov 4, 2020 12:09:04 GMT
doesn't read what I meant it to say if you look at the sky post in a vacuum its very easy to make a post like that from scum pov that just meshes with existing reads and provides semblence of scumhunting without actually contributing useful thoughts on scumreads This is true for that post tbh, but that isn’t the point that kaif was making at all and if you take into account that a lot of his previous posts have been townie /shrug |
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Post by Kaif on Nov 4, 2020 12:28:29 GMT
im simping your nuts stay mad that cl is town and u can't digest that
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Post by Kaif on Nov 4, 2020 12:30:04 GMT
this not chat mafia bro ill need more than 'i tr kaif' I was waiting for his response, i’m weirded out that he hasn’t accused me of pocketing, but also him pushing skyfig + edj is so fucking weird in retrospect to the whole game so far, their are some posts that rubbed me as town prespective but im gonna rethink this slot now, i thinm sky fig’s post all defo come from town though so im sticking with that read ive never once called you out early game for pocketing me in any mafia game ever so its weird to me that you would expect this |
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Post by Kaif on Nov 4, 2020 12:32:59 GMT
doesn't read what I meant it to say if you look at the sky post in a vacuum its very easy to make a post like that from scum pov that just meshes with existing reads and provides semblence of scumhunting without actually contributing useful thoughts on scumreads This is true for that post tbh, but that isn’t the point that kaif was making at all and if you take into account that a lot of his previous posts have been townie /shrug I was definitely making the point that sky is fillering by piggybacking on things we already know while making sure he doesn't turn into one of the main people leaning towards scum!cl |
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Post by Kaif on Nov 4, 2020 12:43:43 GMT
this day is ruined due to spiderz vs cl
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Post by passthesaltdude on Nov 4, 2020 13:01:13 GMT
“The stupidity in your post is beneath me to address, so I dismissed it.
You've squandered whatever pmeta buffer I had for you by throwing tantrums like a child.”
Skipping straight pass all of the memes, CLs tone is extremely negative here, their recent posts have been hostile for almost no reason against a slot that could essentially prove themselves as town any moment now.
I also don’t like how the second Spiderz called them out on their Bullshit CL got SUPER condescending.There’s so much from CL that I don’t like here, it seemed like the second someone interrupted their agenda they had go on a tantrum for it and insult everyone involved.
I understand salt in a mafia game as town, but the sheer amount of negativity CL has been projecting is in not a single way town behavior.
I also don’t like how Sceptorus has called someone out for not addressing the game at hand, when all they’ve done is use poorly done Pmeta to get a town read on chap and a scumread on chap.
I’m interested to know how people feel about a Sceptorus+CL scum team.
Also if all that wasn’t enough, I present the final nail in the coffin “At this rate it looks like you're not making it into the towncore bro”
That line is the pettiest ‘Threat’ I’ve seen, establishing a town core that’s made up of “rng” according to them, and then removing someone from it because they disagree with you.
lynch CL
I want to keep an eye out on anyone who ignores the Derz+CL interactions, since ignoring it would be 100% intentional move as it takes up 3 forum pages
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Post by spiderz on Nov 4, 2020 13:08:24 GMT
im simping your nuts stay mad that cl is town and u can't digest that Have u read anything ive said or even think as to why I have not lynched him yet, he might be town but hes playing mega awful and u refuse to call him out for it and u want to keep simping |
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Post by spiderz on Nov 4, 2020 13:08:38 GMT
“The stupidity in your post is beneath me to address, so I dismissed it. You've squandered whatever pmeta buffer I had for you by throwing tantrums like a child.” Skipping straight pass all of the memes, CLs tone is extremely negative here, their recent posts have been hostile for almost no reason against a slot that could essentially prove themselves as town any moment now. I also don’t like how the second Spiderz called them out on their Bullshit CL got SUPER condescending.There’s so much from CL that I don’t like here, it seemed like the second someone interrupted their agenda they had go on a tantrum for it and insult everyone involved. I understand salt in a mafia game as town, but the sheer amount of negativity CL has been projecting is in not a single way town behavior. I also don’t like how Sceptorus has called someone out for not addressing the game at hand, when all they’ve done is use poorly done Pmeta to get a town read on chap and a scumread on chap. I’m interested to know how people feel about a Sceptorus+CL scum team. Also if all that wasn’t enough, I present the final nail in the coffin “At this rate it looks like you're not making it into the towncore bro” That line is the pettiest ‘Threat’ I’ve seen, establishing a town core that’s made up of “rng” according to them, and then removing someone from it because they disagree with you. lynch CLI want to keep an eye out on anyone who ignores the Derz+CL interactions, since ignoring it would be 100% intentional move as it takes up 3 forum pages Godbless ptsd |
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Post by spiderz on Nov 4, 2020 13:11:31 GMT
Im gonna reiterate how it’s important to keep in mind that CL could possibly just be townie with a hurt ego that they’ve been continuously called out on their bullshit im not opposed to their lynch though, as I do heavily agree that the dismissiveness, condescending attitude, flipping the fuck out, and bullshit that’s come out of the slot is downright insane
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Post by passthesaltdude on Nov 4, 2020 13:18:55 GMT
Im gonna reiterate how it’s important to keep in mind that CL could possibly just be townie with a hurt ego that they’ve been continuously called out on their bullshit im not opposed to their lynch though, as I do heavily agree that the dismissiveness, condescending attitude, flipping the fuck out, and bullshit that’s come out of the slot is downright insane There’s a certain point where even a town persons ego can only go so far. the amount of damage CL has done with their posts, would be insane and strongly against their win con if town, and I feel like everyone has to have a certain level of self awareness to realize when they should stop and when it’s hurting town. And once again, I’ve seen hostility from town when they were l-1 or being turboed for no reason. But how CL is playing right now, reminds me a lot of how I’ve seen other scum play before (I know it’s not true for everyone but it’s a tell) incredibly hostile and aggressive at whatever is thrown at them. but with this, I 100% believe CL has a partner rather than solo. I feel like their aggressive nature is 100% trying to draw the attention or focus away from something else, otherwise it wouldn’t be here. |
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Post by spiderz on Nov 4, 2020 13:30:18 GMT
Im gonna reiterate how it’s important to keep in mind that CL could possibly just be townie with a hurt ego that they’ve been continuously called out on their bullshit im not opposed to their lynch though, as I do heavily agree that the dismissiveness, condescending attitude, flipping the fuck out, and bullshit that’s come out of the slot is downright insane There’s a certain point where even a town persons ego can only go so far. the amount of damage CL has done with their posts, would be insane and strongly against their win con if town, and I feel like everyone has to have a certain level of self awareness to realize when they should stop and when it’s hurting town. And once again, I’ve seen hostility from town when they were l-1 or being turboed for no reason. But how CL is playing right now, reminds me a lot of how I’ve seen other scum play before (I know it’s not true for everyone but it’s a tell) incredibly hostile and aggressive at whatever is thrown at them. but with this, I 100% believe CL has a partner rather than solo. I feel like their aggressive nature is 100% trying to draw the attention or focus away from something else, otherwise it wouldn’t be here. Some people’s ego are just that big man, and also I disagree on that last point like a lot, that makes 0 sense in retrospect unless you specifically mean scept + CL which is the only valid scumteam i see |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Nov 4, 2020 13:32:36 GMT
There’s a certain point where even a town persons ego can only go so far. the amount of damage CL has done with their posts, would be insane and strongly against their win con if town, and I feel like everyone has to have a certain level of self awareness to realize when they should stop and when it’s hurting town. And once again, I’ve seen hostility from town when they were l-1 or being turboed for no reason. But how CL is playing right now, reminds me a lot of how I’ve seen other scum play before (I know it’s not true for everyone but it’s a tell) incredibly hostile and aggressive at whatever is thrown at them. but with this, I 100% believe CL has a partner rather than solo. I feel like their aggressive nature is 100% trying to draw the attention or focus away from something else, otherwise it wouldn’t be here. Some people’s ego are just that big man, and also I disagree on that last point like a lot, that makes 0 sense in retrospect unless you specifically mean scept + CL which is the only valid scumteam i see I’m thinking Scept+CL OR in a batshit crazy case I could also see CL+Chaos ( Mainly for the fact that CL threw that scumread out of nowhere with Chaos saying nothing this whole game, it feels forced and seems very out of place) |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Nov 4, 2020 13:32:51 GMT
There’s a certain point where even a town persons ego can only go so far. the amount of damage CL has done with their posts, would be insane and strongly against their win con if town, and I feel like everyone has to have a certain level of self awareness to realize when they should stop and when it’s hurting town. And once again, I’ve seen hostility from town when they were l-1 or being turboed for no reason. But how CL is playing right now, reminds me a lot of how I’ve seen other scum play before (I know it’s not true for everyone but it’s a tell) incredibly hostile and aggressive at whatever is thrown at them. but with this, I 100% believe CL has a partner rather than solo. I feel like their aggressive nature is 100% trying to draw the attention or focus away from something else, otherwise it wouldn’t be here. Some people’s ego are just that big man, and also I disagree on that last point like a lot, that makes 0 sense in retrospect unless you specifically mean scept + CL which is the only valid scumteam i see I’m thinking Scept+CL OR in a batshit crazy case I could also see CL+Chaos ( Mainly for the fact that CL threw that scumread out of nowhere with Chaos saying nothing this whole game, it feels forced and seems very out of place) |
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Post by Kaif on Nov 4, 2020 13:47:25 GMT
im simping your nuts stay mad that cl is town and u can't digest that Have u read anything ive said or even think as to why I have not lynched him yet, he might be town but hes playing mega awful and u refuse to call him out for it and u want to keep simping I don't think hes playing mega awful his posts were just rough, its pretty hilarious that you keep insisting that im not reading the game and im just simping cl tho hop off my dick |
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Post by Kaif on Nov 4, 2020 13:48:02 GMT
i want chaostrodon ssr chap to talk btw
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Post by Kaif on Nov 4, 2020 13:55:26 GMT
rly dont like this cl wagon rn.
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Post by spiderz on Nov 4, 2020 13:56:16 GMT
Have u read anything ive said or even think as to why I have not lynched him yet, he might be town but hes playing mega awful and u refuse to call him out for it and u want to keep simping I don't think hes playing mega awful his posts were just rough, its pretty hilarious that you keep insisting that im not reading the game and im just simping cl tho hop off my dick U r on his dick if u dont think hes helping town at all dont mitigate how awful they were |
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Post by spiderz on Nov 4, 2020 13:56:50 GMT
rly dont like this cl wagon rn. So u think that reasonings are invalid?? U need to explain bro |
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Post by cl on Nov 4, 2020 13:59:15 GMT
Actually managed to get up before 9.
Look it's the election, I had a few stiff ones, idk what set me off maybe it's the way derz types.
I'm not backtracking. I think Litts read on me is extremely fair. derz is just trying to feed off someone agreeing with him because I was harsh on him and I get that. It's just derz being derz.
With that said, I'd like to point out that the last time I played in a legit game was MS Leaders half a decade ago.
I have no cause for ego.
I'm not counting the game I played here where I won as town in a dead game by basically suiciding to get last scum (schia) out.
Yall can chill with the ego accusations. Yes I was harsh. But I would've said the same things sober maybe just more nicely.
Irked to see PTSD basically using a glorified ATE post to vote me but also nice to see derz finding a nice middle ground between feeding off ptsd and yet having the restraint to not sheep probably aware of game state and me flipping obvious town.
Also I can't technically prove that I had a couple nice sazerac h. I will vote PTSD but after I've gotten rid of my headache. One last PSA = Stump = NAI. But after my super harsh last post derz was nice enough to not lash out so while it looks like we can't work together d1 that's okay enough for me to not park on him for no reason.
s/o Kaif and dw we will still find scum.
FoS on PTSD for taking posts out of order and then Ateing for a contrived lynch.
Litt I accept your read, it's fair, but you should unvote if you're town because you'll be better served with me, a fellow Town, living this day.
Yall can chill with the ego business esp you derz. Aite.
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Post by passthesaltdude on Nov 4, 2020 14:09:53 GMT
Actually managed to get up before 9. Look it's the election, I had a few stiff ones, idk what set me off maybe it's the way derz types. I'm not backtracking. I think Litts read on me is extremely fair. derz is just trying to feed off someone agreeing with him because I was harsh on him and I get that. It's just derz being derz. With that said, I'd like to point out that the last time I played in a legit game was MS Leaders half a decade ago. I have no cause for ego. I'm not counting the game I played here where I won as town in a dead game by basically suiciding to get last scum (schia) out. Yall can chill with the ego accusations. Yes I was harsh. But I would've said the same things sober maybe just more nicely. Irked to see PTSD basically using a glorified ATE post to vote me but also nice to see derz finding a nice middle ground between feeding off ptsd and yet having the restraint to not sheep probably aware of game state and me flipping obvious town. Also I can't technically prove that I had a couple nice sazerac h. I will vote PTSD but after I've gotten rid of my headache. One last PSA = Stump = NAI. But after my super harsh last post derz was nice enough to not lash out so while it looks like we can't work together d1 that's okay enough for me to not park on him for no reason. s/o Kaif and dw we will still find scum. FoS on PTSD for taking posts out of order and then Ateing for a contrived lynch. Litt I accept your read, it's fair, but you should unvote if you're town because you'll be better served with me, a fellow Town, living this day. Yall can chill with the ego business esp you derz. Aite.  ? Opening a post with a quote that wasn’t from your first post isn’t ‘taking things out of order’ And saying that it was ATE is ignoring every point I made. I’m not appealing to people’s emotions to get you lynched, I’m calling out your hostile emotions and refusal to read the game. Your entire town core had 0 substance or reason to it and the second Derz called you out you tried to sr him and now you are trying to buddy with Litt. Treestump= Town. I know anything is possible in a CS, but unless Derz is fake claiming; I don’t see any reason to paint the stump as NaI and if you are, give a reason to it. Also you call out Derz for feeding off of me, when you quite literally throw out random ass Kaif reads for 0 reason just because he says you are town. I want you to take a second or an hour or hell if you need it, a day. And just read, read everything carefully, take all sense of omgus away, and read. Once you show up with reads then we can talk and maybe have a pleasant discussion. But as it stands right now, you were incredibly defensive and hostile, and that’s not me ATEing that’s me saying that it was an incredibly anti town thing to do and did nothing but tear people apart. |
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Post by passthesaltdude on Nov 4, 2020 14:16:23 GMT
Maybe I’m bad. But CLs post just straight up anger me, they alienate everyone who scumreads them and pockets anyone who doesn’t.
So denying ego in this case means you are scum. I know it’s a weird way of wording it, but- If you are town, a humble member of town, you would not just omgus read people and say if someone TR you they are town. That either comes from the egotism of you thinking the only way people could SR you is if they are scum (it’s ok to say it that’s what it is dw. Wether I want to admit it or not, I’ve played a lot of games like that too) or you are scum trying to turn people against anyone who scumreads you.
Overall CL has payed very little attention to the game state and instead has focused solely on people who mention them and no one else. CL threw out random town core with little real backbone and has yet to give a real defense besides changing the topic entirely. And throwing away a full ( and in my opinion valid) argument, by just calling it ATE.
Once again this slot is heavy anti town, and it doesn’t matter if you townread or scumread CL they have been playing against town for the beginning of this game.
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Post by passthesaltdude on Nov 4, 2020 14:17:39 GMT
I’m not liking Kaifs refusal to do any real reading either, it seems lazy and like a low effort scum move. If they townread CL I want a genuine reason to it, otherwise it feels like they are dismissing everything important so far.
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