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Post by MyanMario on May 30, 2023 13:25:05 GMT
I think there's really nothing to do until snaq is more active because both sand and clems are giving me a headache ^.^
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Post by MyanMario on May 30, 2023 13:24:13 GMT
I'm back for a bit, don't really see any progression at all besides sand deciding to sr snaq more than me, which would be awesome for them to explain I think it's fair not to shoot clems until they give their shotpool but it's insane how they are still alive while blatantly openwolfing (could be using the term wrong?) wat shotpool this is literally 4p context.. this was said before i was shot
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Post by MyanMario on May 30, 2023 4:03:57 GMT
I am going to sleep Leave a ton of messages I beg
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Post by MyanMario on May 30, 2023 4:03:21 GMT
Schia where in the world did this come from Like Let’s say I shoot snaq, they have to decide between sand and clems Which is arguably painful if they’re town Clems and sand I beg y’all to really just, give reads etc etc Snaq I expect a lot from you as town or mafia
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Post by MyanMario on May 30, 2023 2:36:26 GMT
I lied I'm not back for a bit if anyone is online I got 5ish minutes to talk
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Post by MyanMario on May 30, 2023 2:34:30 GMT
I'm back for a bit, don't really see any progression at all besides sand deciding to sr snaq more than me, which would be awesome for them to explain I think it's fair not to shoot clems until they give their shotpool but it's insane how they are still alive while blatantly openwolfing (could be using the term wrong?)
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Post by MyanMario on May 29, 2023 1:38:24 GMT
Forgot to mention sand took me completely out of their game-win poe scenario only to put me in their top 3 srs a few posts later, that felt super inconsistent Clems -> snaq > -> sand -> schia I don’t trust anyone so I’m only basing this off of scummyness
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Post by MyanMario on May 29, 2023 1:36:56 GMT
I’m sorry I forgot about this game for the day, been all over the place while on vacation I’ve read and hopefully caught up although I don’t have time to wallpost until tomorrow (?) Gts my reasoning for clems being the top is because it’s been over a week and they yet to do anything towny, sand is higher on my tr than them. Idk what you really mean about the wob flip making them town I can try to reread it later I’m getting really just, not good vibes from snaq rn. Don’t have an explanation so don’t ask for one b/c it’s purely just how I am reading their tone/lines Idk why for the second day in a row we had an out of pocket shot yall please talk more b4 shot Tenshi isn’t talking that much here i don’t like that
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Post by MyanMario on May 28, 2023 3:21:49 GMT
My only game related post for this day sorry I’m so tired Poe of clems -> snaq -> protein probably wins Sand seemed to get a bit too defensive when gts was considering them for a shot while also being laid back going “I’ll just shoot myan” with a. Surge of activity Schia probably town Snaq I have to reread entirely
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Post by MyanMario on May 27, 2023 14:11:33 GMT
I’m about to drive on a road trip for 3 hours until my “shift” is over, I’ll see if I can pop in
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Post by MyanMario on May 27, 2023 14:11:03 GMT
Interestingly, Myan sorta pushed Yash to go for clemens instead of Gary, though this was before Yash was gunned. I find it a little odd that he didn't comment on this yesterday when Gary was the obvious shot, but wanting Yash to shoot clemens earlier would still have explicitly avoided a town shot if he'd convinced yash. I'd be surprised if Myan and clemens were both Mafia rn, then it would have been really risky for Myan. If it's scum!Myan, and town!Clemens, I could see Myan committing to this narrative though. Still interested MyanMario, how did interactions with Yash and Gary change your reads? assuming you still SR clemens I'm especially interseted in Clemens-Gary interaction analysis I’m a bit confused what you mean about how my reads changed; yash didn’t make progression, Gary did in a way advocating passively to not be shot Yes I still SR clemens if you check any of my posts
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Post by MyanMario on May 27, 2023 2:52:39 GMT
I think it would be a little cute if everyone presented a scum case for every remaining player, even those they may tr. Getting every player to agree to thar may be difficult, but ultimately I'd find it quite beneficial also heading out, i can do this tomorrow
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Post by MyanMario on May 27, 2023 2:52:22 GMT
good read to look at post-shot, either that or it's TMI on whose part as in your read on the posts you quoted
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Post by MyanMario on May 27, 2023 2:45:19 GMT
I think I'm getting shot to day genuine question why are your stars pink
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Post by MyanMario on May 27, 2023 2:45:01 GMT
I'd say that was the only shot so far I disagreed with clems goes next
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Post by MyanMario on May 27, 2023 2:44:16 GMT
thumbsdown This Post Is Bad I don't know Clem meta but is it normal to just filler you haven't actually said anything here I do not think that Clemens actually cared about the response here Fenrir replied and Clemens completely neglected I selected this one just cause I don't like it when ppl @ afks to post d1 what's the likelihood of this being two wolves, one town? good read to look at post-shot, either that or it's TMI
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Post by MyanMario on May 26, 2023 17:20:56 GMT
can you like summarize this in 1 line idk if it's the wording but it's making my head hurt @protein I can try to explain it better (one liners arent my for te unfortunately) Im assuming youre talking about the 2nd portion. I wanted to toy with the idea of Clem!Town instead of Clem!Scum In the Clem!Town scenario, Toni recognized a slot that people had expressed dislike of but no one had said “shoot this” so he saw it as an easy push. From the users posts (Clems) thus far it would look like they are a bad town member, that generally isnt favored among the rest of the PL, so if they got shot and flipped town it would be reasonable to think that scum could use this to their advantage to influence Clem to shoot a more “outspoken” so to speak member of the PL or a town member that would be problematic to deal with later on as the PL gets smaller Once Toni got the ball rolling with shooting Clem its very possible another scum added onto this to further the push which is how we led to ~5 people approximately saying to shoot Clem (Wob originally was saying that the Clem wagon could have had multiple scum on it other than just Toni and i kinda wanted to just toy with the idea a bit in a Clem!Town scenario as opposed to a Clem!Scum bus) got it, thanks for taking the time to do that. I agree with what you've said and the possibility, however I'm still pretty locked on them just being mafia the fact that you used snaq's idea to influence game progression and take on a new POV is just, really towny here I'm inclined
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Post by MyanMario on May 26, 2023 16:56:06 GMT
if ihbst flips gary is town
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Post by MyanMario on May 26, 2023 16:54:05 GMT
This just didn't happen. Read the whole interaction and you can even see Schia say they simply did not say they wanted fun. Also, if out of everything in this game you choose to try to read anybody you choose the tic-tac-toe game? I just don't like that Of course you don’t like it, because I called you out lol You know you can just call me out for everything I post lol how is this TOWN
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Post by MyanMario on May 26, 2023 16:53:46 GMT
i do think its possible that the interactions between toni and clems were just bussing, as you pointed out there wouldn't have been much risk for toni as clems was already the biggest target that day anyways. the reason ive said i think the the clems wagon was scum motivated was because of just how quickly it gained traction, i wouldnt be surprised if 2+ scum saw it as an easy target and jumped on. at the same time i wouldnt say i necessarily townread clems - its true that their iso doesnt have a lot of substance and theyve been the most absent out of anyone. but at the same time if you read through their posts it looks a lot more like they just dont know what to say a lot of the time as opposed to actively lurking to avoid attention from town (i mean its really had the opposite effect). I do like this reasoning tbh Running through a list for myself the order after looking through pages of stuff for the Clemshot list was Toni —> Ihbst —> Myan —> Yash —> Me (order of people saying Yes shoot Clem) Out of these Yash’s reasoning was that it would give good info Ihbst didnt really explain much on why Myans reasoning was: between Clem and Schia they SR’d Schias vibes but not their lines so Clem was more reasonable than Schia My reasoning was: esentially because of Clem had said thus far ie, the nature of their posts wasnt reading off as town, and its something i explained i just cant mark posts on mobile >_> Out of this id like to toy with the idea that Toni couldve seen this as an easy push due to their nature of their posts, and had gotten the feel from other players that they were in some form of agreement that so it encouraged him to make this push, and id say on Clems flip with the gun he wouldnt have made as good of a shot as some others ie: a very easily influenced shot by scum. In this it would still say more than just Toni could have easily wagoned too can you like summarize this in 1 line idk if it's the wording but it's making my head hurt @protein
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Post by MyanMario on May 26, 2023 13:21:33 GMT
Why is Snaq ◢ ◤ asking me questions but just not caring about the answer
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Post by MyanMario on May 26, 2023 12:03:07 GMT
I'll probably give a quick list of my tr/srs every day from now on if I can:
mafia: clemens
possibly mafia: ihbst schia
possibly town: wob snaq
town?: gts prod
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Post by MyanMario on May 26, 2023 11:59:50 GMT
Also I do wanna point out that around the time of Toni's death (both before and after), Myan's activity and slot as a whole just fell off a cliff, so I don't mind them being shot either How do you think these are related btw? If you missed it I already responded to this, just work that prevented me from being around eod.
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Post by MyanMario on May 26, 2023 11:58:59 GMT
Also im just now starting to think about what the yash flip could mean clemens wanted yash shot (and didnt really say anything else of substance today) Gary / Yash had a pretty heated argument, Gary was pretty defensive there but did not seem to actually want to truly push Yash here (as, again, most posts were mostly focused on defending) Schia read Yash (and became the main person interacting with him). I quite liked this post though, especially the part of having very particular ideas on what's towny spoke to me (which is why I liked the post before I knew the flip when reading today lol). They had a big back and forth. If scum!Schia did this, I would imagine it was to deflect off a scum partner. Schia was not at risk there, and being the main push as scum is risky. Together with the points being reasonable (to me), it comes off towny to me. Likely scum would be people who silently supported the Yash push. (The reason I'd not say the same about Gary, is because he did not really present many points about Yash idt, it was more the opposite) that said, from reading i had no clue who fingerlings was gonna shoot. Schia mainly pushed Yash but I could've seen fingerlings shoot like 5 players (clemens, myan, ihbst, gary, yash). The other I would not have expected due to no one really making a strong push. The eod was focused a lot around Schia v Yash (and Gary v Yash a bit before). The only other person that really got pressure was Gary, who did stay active. Both the following were pretty vanilla at the end of the day if they were content with the current focus on Yash I dislike how ihbst just got stuck talking about misfires. He really did not try to alter gamestate there Myan lightly pushed yash shot, with preference being clemens. Commented on the evolution of reads before, but idt this post really did much to spark more eod discussion Interestingly, Myan did say yash wanting to get shot to shoot gary is bad. Why MyanMario ? Do you TR Gary? Do you think it was a scummy thing for Yash to say?I think that I should've read into yash's pmeta a bit more, but I can't imagine town willing to let another town die for the sake of their read instead of just finding really strong evidence/reasoning why. This helps them confirm their read as well as not waste town's time and/or numbers.
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Post by MyanMario on May 26, 2023 3:24:13 GMT
Saw the ping just wanted to see what happened Post as much as possible please, I’ll read it when I wake up
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