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How I get Myself Killed- Indigo De Souza  1:22 "Something must be up, I have never felt so dumb. And I have never gone so numb. And I have never been so late before. This is Probably how I get myself killed"

vote @myanmario



I haven't had the time to process the thread like i've wanted to. But ftr I havent seen anything from Myan that has done anything to change the claims made against them, and I still havent see much real progress from their slot esp late today where it feels like they are trying to soley defend their slot/ challenge the vote on them rather than also finding serious nominations. (I know early they mentioned nominatting slots that they felt needed more pressure but not necessarily ones thet scumread, and even potentially nominating a townread if I read it correctly) and I am a little offput by how noncoherent / not really urgent that strategy seems

Also I strongly agree that Fame is never the vote here and them even being a potential CW when there was never huge scumpoints levied against them aside from some slight concerns, kind of irks me the wrong way. Especially from TB's post which feels kind of thrown together last second just to justify a CW vote that is viable enough to save Myan rather than finding a CW vote that actually gives scum.

Sorry that isnt more coherently worded, I can elaborate more tomorrow when im not crunched for time.

I stand by my Stp TR, I don't think we're seeing their wolfgame here--would put Vade above him as a "Hey no what are you doing don't nom that wtf" slot.
Pass/Winsy/NE are slots that I've liked but tbh I wouldn't be surprised if there were one in the mix.
Mostly alright w/ Micro, felt myself nodding a lot with their latest--any nitpicks I'd have probably could just be boiled down to having had less time to sit w/ my opinions on the slot.

Fame/rea go in a little jar where it's probably best they be left alone until there's reason to suggest otherwise, yeah?

Which leaves lechen/Sylv/Dactyl/TB/iavh/ddlc for winnowing

The conflict I'm having comes down to this I think--I like a lot of rea's early presence (felt myself nodding with some of his initial TRs, has an openbook sort of attitude that I associate with village, the usual candor-is-towny stuff). I think we also had a p similar sense of the threadstate in the first slew of phases, like that take early on abt the likelihood of wolves having posted felt like another show of decent townheadspace. Where he starts to lose me is some of the doubling down on the Myan TR (the initial meta pull is fine, some of the subsequent returns to it feel like a forgone conclusion which rubs me the wrong way). I like early Slowthe too, and would like to think their interactions are V/V--STP's pushing and prodding around the initial read feel less like gotcha-attempts and more like a villager genuinely taken aback by what they perceive as a weak progression, I think someone earlier brought up this idea of him feeling less like a wolf trying to keep someone eligible for mislunch and more like a player just kind of seeing their thoughts through and I kind of get that (pg6 showcases this vibe pretty well I think, like the attitude is very much "Make this make sense" as opposed to any sort of bad faith handling). Can also fully see both slots getting fatigued with terrain in a 24hr format where it's occupied most of their threadtime, so it's like. I would *like* it to be a V/V situation.

Where that gets sticky for me is some of the aforementioned stuff where Myan reenters (which is for me where they start actually being *wolfy* as opposed to just slanking), like it's stilted and awkward in a way that I think skews more toward wolf than villager, and the places where they bail on the thread or just straight up don't address certain questions (while also being visibly conscious of their posts) don't strike me as someone liveposting w/o hesitation/wavering--and I think that applies to their return to the thread today in the backhalf of the phase, too. Last night they had the strange pop-in to Fame, with the mixing up btwn me/rea and a comment abt unpairing that felt kind of out of nowhere [x]--like, I brought up some of my discomfort with Fame's handling of the slot there, but to stress the room for error there, I do think the points being made by Fame on pg11 are like, solid points--it's just that the delivery (both in manner and in moment) comes across as someone with a foot in the door on the slot, like they wanted both to address the scumminess of the pop-in while also defending the slot to NE. Myan's scattered exit & Fame's "hey I'm expecting follow-up here" felt p classically W/W, too, like partner A flails, partner B responds in a way that gives partner A an opportunity to recover but also positions partner B to bus if needed. Like, assuming good faith, I think there's definitely a world where this can just be Fame exercising a good deal of caution w/ the above slots--but I have a harder time extending that same grace to Myan, esp. coming off pg16 where they seem to just sort of pull conclusions out of nowhere in one breath (the readlist, the TR on micro, the fixation on Sylv and the scarce progression around all of these), and defer elaboration in the other (with Sylvie again but also later in the page, with Winsy). Like, most generous read is that it's a villager just playing coy for no reason--which feels like a huge stretch. Like I think there's decent cases to be made for v!Fame (most village equity here imo) and v!rea (less equity but still decently defensible, esp. with the amount of slanking we have here), but v!Myan is a harder sell.

vote @myanmario

if I'm doing my due diligence, then I'll throw in too for good measure- I don't think any of this is disqualifying for Sylv, who's been nonexistent, and along w/ Lechen I think there's something to be said for them having threadflaked without *also* just straight up not posting (see: Dactyl). If Myan does flip green, I think it leaves us in a position to go winnowing (and fwiw I have a much harder time seeing the stuff above as being W/V from either Fame or rea toward Myan)--as it stands though I think I still land here.

is there a reason you're not nominating literally any of the other people you had listed as scumreads 

like winsy & ne were both listed as scumreads for you as of an hour ago

worth asking atp who you'll be nominating if you're voted out MyanMario

reads are cool but ultimately we're forced to vote between 3 candidates and choose from that pool so this is the only day we have of free reign over votes

right but you specifically said there was a reason as to why you asked me, like that was something you said: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/129161/thread

so my impression of a lot of what you're doing rn is trying to make up reasons for stuff you've done prior 

not feeling very amused by myan's lousy test or whatever, not really believable to me that this is the only content you're capable of producing after evading doing anything for the whole phase

you still haven't elaborated on why you asked me the question in particular MyanMario