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Post by cyan on Nov 20, 2023 9:41:48 GMT
i have all the incentive to manufacture a push on iavh because frankly i haven't been around long enough to know if they've learned from our previous games and i am doubtful that they have
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Post by cyan on Nov 20, 2023 9:38:10 GMT
 this is based on aura, not personal star signs... i'll soon know what this means about alignment, but the stars haven't told me yet, so be patient 1) iamveryhappy - Sagittarius 2) Crespo - Aquarius 3) Cyan Talon - Aquarius 4) Dactyl7 - Aries 5) tommy2hands - Scorpio 6) camryn - Gemini 7) Fame - Gemini 9) Fenrir - Virgo 10) kliff - Capricorn 11) prodigu - Virgo 12) cuddleszz - Taurus 13) saltiestcactus23 - Capricorn 14) OM~! - Libra 16) fingerlings - Aquarius 17) Edjeanerations - Leo 18) pisxel - Taurus 19) tanpat - Pisces 20) PenguinD - Cancer HOW HOW DID YOU GET ME RIGHT |
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Post by cyan on Nov 20, 2023 5:07:21 GMT
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Post by cyan on Nov 20, 2023 2:55:59 GMT
i like this new pfp actually because it makes me default to trash talk whenever i post a one-liner
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Post by cyan on Nov 20, 2023 2:55:31 GMT
kliff pulling out the fucking meme folder again
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Post by cyan on Nov 20, 2023 2:39:24 GMT
what do you think about national toilet day man... what do you think about international man day toilet... |
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Post by cyan on Nov 20, 2023 2:26:23 GMT
IT HAPPEN
vote om
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Post by cyan on Nov 12, 2023 16:21:31 GMT
oh a CLASSIC forum game
why the fuck not. /in
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Post by cyan on Oct 9, 2023 16:03:19 GMT
to me the one thing that comes to mind is "so what does this mean in the grand scheme of things" the conclusion that there's exactly one mafia in a group of three means next to nothing when it isn't a hard mechanic i assume "mighty and fae aren't partnered" is the kind of thing you'd say after, like, a PoE thought train (think 2v3, FtF is "solving" with 1 conftown, TE, MC and Fae) so that's just nothingtalk
basically, if i see a lot of interaction between a group of slots, i think there's something alignment indicative/agenda driven within that pool
doing associatives helps rule out partner pairs, and in turn can likely divine how many mafia are in that pool, in this case no more than 1
so really the question is, do you think the concept has credence?
frankly i don't get why you'd then jump to mighty + fae not being a valid partnership and then say that one of them has to be scum (or at least without context) so like maybe the concept does work, but this is not a good case for that |
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Post by cyan on Oct 8, 2023 12:39:11 GMT
right now if tos is a real claim then i don't think mighty and faerie are partnered and if he's a fakeclaim idt he'd be partnered with any of the people on him
based on the principle of controversy i think that trio of tos/mighty/faerie has exactly one mafia
does anyone disagree
Alright first one!
Theme: KWG
Context: TOS has claimed a power role (the minutia doesn't matter)
What do you have to say about the post? What questions do you have?
Sample Questions:
If FTF is scum, why would he make a post like this? Same question for if he's town.
What does this post tell you about FTF's alignment and how it relates to everyone else mentioned in the post?
My response:
This seems like a big jump in logic, trying to deduce alignment information about 3 players when the main focus (tos claim) has't actually been resolved. Feels like you're pre-flipping people by lumping them together like this, off of not much evidence. I don't think the associative you're working with is strong enough to support this claim.
to me the one thing that comes to mind is "so what does this mean in the grand scheme of things" the conclusion that there's exactly one mafia in a group of three means next to nothing when it isn't a hard mechanic i assume "mighty and fae aren't partnered" is the kind of thing you'd say after, like, a PoE thought train (think 2v3, FtF is "solving" with 1 conftown, TE, MC and Fae) so that's just nothingtalk |
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Post by cyan on Aug 6, 2023 16:02:59 GMT
it is over
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Post by cyan on Jul 22, 2023 3:41:46 GMT
okay um i read just today's posts after eating lunch (starting from where mmib says R++ guy died and it's d2?? but the previous night was n3??) and the first thing my brain registers is that clouds and kliff are solving for scumteams on the topic of clouds i'm not sure whether i like them because they're the one singlehandedly keeping the thread alive or because they look like they're actually attempting to logically solve (those are some detailed reads on everyone and lengthy poe of who's partnered and not). The vibe is that they control the entire thread with a super big influence on others reads, probably townie but could be scum influence (winsy mentioned a thought vv similar to this but just cut it off with "Some of it doesn't add up" and didn't refer back to it) kliff's kinda just pingponging off clouds reads so like wild take clouds is probably townie but kliff has a "decent" chance of being scum or both are scum. Winsy is apparantly a slot people do not like, along with clems. most of winsy's today posts are votecounts and game role info. what the hell am i supposed to do with this? ppl are talking and you're just "hehe votecount" from what i vaguely remember of skimming through certain posts winsy apparently got hated on for starting the conversation…? somebody explain i wanna say "nai or sl" but i'm in no position to do that because i, myself has basically done nothing Clems is just naturally scummy and looks scummy every game that i've played with them and afaik cyan's opinion on clem has just been him barking "CLEMS OPENWOLFING CLEMS OPENWOLFING" well the mmib votecount on page 29 at the very top shows them crossed. i do not know the context for this but wtf? i do not get good vibes from either of these two. this is pretty shit phrasing but "don't read clems for BEING CLEMS read clems for the shit they do in regard to the fact that they are clems" the one bubida/jeff post of importance is "it just looks like scum has been nk’ing all of the aggressive/active players thus far with the exception of clouds" and "I don’t see the rationale of winsy wanting to shift off of his read today out of fear that he will be dogpiled tho that seems pretty stupid to me." kinda townie? elaborate on the nka pls ty :3 idk about winsy's specific read shift but from a nameless perspective someone shifting off a read they made the previous day because they think they will be killed for it is pretty scummy- the 2 types of people who fear death are town pr and scum and winsy doesn't read town pr at all "Hope this isn't too much of an early defeatism, honestly I think it's fairly obvious I'm town because I'm getting pushed by like 5 people now. Huge shame fingerlings was VT, didn't expect that and it is a big problem for the game. If you do vote me, good luck in VoLo." - zeito i have read ONE post from this guy and they are already radiating scum. why is your day introduction "hope i don't look defeatist since i'm town because people hate me. damn my cw died. damn my cw was town" like clearly you've been paying attention if you its pre volo or something + 5 people are pushing you and yet thats all you gotta say?! ok bye update me on anything that i may have misunderstood and therefore misread okay this is apparently a slot i missed the first time but i think it's bold of someone to go "the townleader might be scum" so high chance holo is town here. i was gonna think mason but with the accidental no-masons thing i think that's off the table may need to reconsider the winsy slot because in retrospect a lot of the passivity does kinda show and they've done a good job casing that slot if i have ddlc/cyan flipped or something that's bad so i'm gonna hit the brakes for now, i want both to speak. cyan declaring a "cross of ddlc/zeito" means one of cyan/ddlc is gonna flip scum, at minimum yeah and guess which one Vote: ddlcfan69though i do wanna know more about your ddlc townread now because a read-by-team thing is kinda weird cross aside i think ddlc's all talk no action approach this game speaks for itself |
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Post by cyan on Jul 22, 2023 3:32:16 GMT
anyway i forgot how the rest of this game goes but i think we can just all agree that clouds was the shot target
time to read up on the rest of the thread because this is not a good look for me
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Post by cyan on Jul 22, 2023 3:31:27 GMT
hi, i'm town bulletproof. i've been attacked by SK (n1) and now mafia (n4), i softed mason blatantly to try to get attacked by mafia and buy us another vote before lylo. i've done that, we're solving, mafia likely knows my role now so there's no point in not claiming here. now that no kill happened last night, we're at an odd # of players (11) and a vote brings us down to 9 instead of 8 with a nightkill so it's no longer lylo. asking all town to play this night and don't do what zeito did and resign, or if you want to do that then sub out kliff hold your vote i don't want to risk a premature hammer. masons can claim situationally here but only claim if it's beneficial to the solve, i wouldn't straight away hold the fucking phone, if SK gets one-shot abilities of town and maf pr's how did pisxel die n1 Ye we should def vote cyan now then do it??? |
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Post by cyan on Jul 19, 2023 15:06:11 GMT
Hope this isn't too much of an early defeatism, honestly I think it's fairly obvious I'm town because I'm getting pushed by like 5 people now. Huge shame fingerlings was VT, didn't expect that and it is a big problem for the game. If you do vote me, good luck in VoLo. Apologies that I wasn't able to keep up my activity for very long, I did give it a try but I much prefer committing a couple hours to a mafia game and not having to read through forums. I'm going to stick with my tr on cyan/wallape and basically vote somewhere in ddlc/Clouds/kliff as their actions seem to be fairly united. You can probably find some posts where they disagree or something recently, I won't respond to it though. vote dllci get that i'm the one doing it but i'm a little concerned with how you said "i'm getting pushed by like 5 people" when like two people are on you and there's someone in the thread pushing against your wagon also isn't this post just one massive OMGUS? i declare that ddlc/zeito is a real cross now and we're solving between them |
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Post by cyan on Jul 19, 2023 15:03:31 GMT
i think i shouldn't have played that one other game i played on here before cause the effort levels were so good that i thought that was the standard, but this has been straight up depressing on these important days. i can & will solve this game if people speak up... 18p game that was supposed to be a multiball but sk got sniped n1 and we have to live with the extra length that entails without people dropping like flies i don't expect the pl to be worried about much going on this game. as far as i'm concerned any vote i make is just an exercise in pl-thinning until we get to volo and real wagons happen wait cyan your reasoning makes zero sense to me in the post at the end of page 30. you're that adamant zeito isn't scum & you despised the wagon that muck, ok whatever, but then somehow that leads to you wanting ddlc and fingerlings to both role claim? and i'm exempt from that cause i unvoted zeito? i can't see any reasonable villager thought pattern that connects the votes --> roleclaiming tbqh cyan/ddlc partnership is looking possible to me as well cause it'd make sense that your reason for asking for the roleclaims was to generate fake s/s content, in this case asking 1 town + 1 scum teammate to roleclaim despite not truly caring about them claiming or anything like that. i don't know, it's hard for me to see a good justification for this the roleclaim bit was me trying to apply pressure in a way that just instinctively made sense to me, like "you're under suspicion here's your last chance to claim" which i think doesn't matter anymore considering i've forgotten to literally be here? all i think is that the zeito push was weird back then and until kliff and you made your reasons clear to me it felt like a very opportunistic wagon man i really hate to retread old ground but i'm thinking there's just something really awful about how winsy is making a noncommittal wallpost and how aka is following up with "yeah this shows they're reading the game" hopefully i'm not the first to catch two things about the readlist: a. a majority of winsy's reads revolve around how other slots have reacted to them b. zero scumreads in a game where everyone is arguing with at least two other people then again, winsy was the first to call out this behavioron the whole i'd say this exchange makes aka a little weird-looking. potential for svs in my eyes but i do think aka's own contributions are a better looker for spew Vote: akakakpalso, funny how the fingerlings wagon picked up around the same time as winsy's wallpost i am keeping you in my good graces because i am simply hoping you're a better person than this. with how openwolfy you are i'm starting to wonder if you might be scum but rest assured that if you are pr you will not survive even after claiming cyan can you explain your progression on winsy slot from the original post saying fame might be trying to salvage their slot --> shading winsy's slot in this post here --> not seeming to look at them as a top vote? is it bad if i say i just forgot to think about winsy entirely for the record though i discarded the fame/winsy interaction read very early on as soon as someone said it clashed with their pmeta so for all intents and purposes you're looking at two separate reads |
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Post by cyan on Jul 19, 2023 1:30:47 GMT
- fingerlings - Town from gutread on posts day 1. I won't die on this hill.
**Vote Winsy Tinsy** - essentially RVS. I think that winsy and clem have come off as quite scummy so far.I'll aim to see you tomorrow, hopefully before the day ends (I'm not sure when exactly it does). Let me just send this off on my pigeon. First post: clem = bad winsy = bad fingerling + good (Responding to ®➕➕ ) Looking over the day 1 today I think I got a feeling they [fingerlings] were town purely from activity. There's also this kind of fluff which tends to feel a little town to me, because oh hey, I agree with this, and it's a good explanation. I'm now going back on this after I've looked at their posts and found where they've tended to defend themself by talking about reading in general (as opposed to in this game specifically) and not actually look into anyone beyond that. In fact, they actually drag out discussion surrounding the nuances of day one filler quite a lot. While it's true you can't always make good reads day 1, it's a pretty established concept. I'm not sure of the term for this, but this feels like they're trying to set their course for a correct townread on someone everyone else wanted voted. unvote Winsy Tinsy (I didn't bold my vote before FYI!) vote fingerlings
I guess it'll be more fun to post more frequently with less text. 180 on fingerlings here. Uh, you totally got me with this lol. It was very hypocritical if me to take the moral high ground and then get involved and immediately dive into the mud. This is actually pretty funny to read back. Regarding a clem vote I will iso them after I post this (apparently deadline is close) but I'm not as confident in them flipping as fingerlings / ddlc. I generally expect clem to have a little bit of fluff in their iso. I also remember seeing them find a good catch on how other people were reading which to me demonstrated awareness, but you can force me to follow up on this tomorrow (with a source). There was also a fingerlings post that didn't align them very well. potential slight bus / distance with clem. or overall bsing ??. likely not partnered with ddlc. One thing I struggle with sometimes in mafia is people overanalysing details that don't turn out to be relevant, and misinterpretations. I call it out when I think it's pointless (but sometimes they actually did find something!) and I also call out people who call it out as pointless (just ignore it, that is more beneficial to the thread). My example here is: I think it's reasonable for you to assume that I read most of the most recent posts, and also reasonable to assume that I was pretty sensitive to mentions of my name, especially those in bold. There's a sort of human instinct for attention seeking in all of us. You'll be crucified! But it doesn't seem to be going in that direction now  This is so true, verily. I also like Winsy's post which you mention in this about surface-level analysis (they made a readlist, so I'll give them town). I think sfl is currently giving a good representation of the gamestate and I like their slot so far.Interesting votes on Neo. Thinking back, their start was a little overly aggressive which almost feels like a show (in that if they display a strong, direct start, they come off as a townleader). So I can see a little bit of possible deepwolf here (even though wolfing terms are overused now imo). I think I'll stick here for now but a Neo|fingerlings one scum has potential, and I still believe fingerlings scum -> clem town. Potential Misleading votes 180 town leaning on winsy slot ?? not too sure. Winsy + Zeito is plausible. I ISO Winsy to see how they interacted with zeito and so far and they only mention them when the post are related to a vote. well i guess there's this massive wall detailing how zeito's reads are flip-floppy but idk my mind just tells me i've seen worse in this game |
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Post by cyan on Jul 19, 2023 1:29:42 GMT
I think I'm willing to drop the Winsy Tinsy tl, idk seems like they don't care who gets voted and maybe even like a drive. I think Zeito might be scum, Them not showing up yesterday is definitely not a good sign. I think you made a interesting point about clem be a slot reserved for bussing, that makes the cyan/clem pair more of a reality. yeah, esp with clem/cyan ending on each other at the end of yesterday like neither cared about anything else other than their vote placement. the one point to the contrary here is that clem did end on cyan day 1 at a time where it risked sending cyan over, and i feel like if scum was gonna go through with a bus then cyan would've countervoted clem or clem would've moved? like let's say cyan goes over, does mafia really think clem is gonna go forth as their deepwolf? the counter-counterpoint is that cyan wasn't necessarily going over cause it was unlikely anyone shifted their vote there of all places i'd still edge towards this being s/t before s/s purely for the heck of it clemens is just so openwolf that i can confidently say if their vote picks up some time later the probability of a bus should be the first thing that comes to mind right now i'm trying to decide whether i think the lack of a clemens push is indicative of scum, or if the lack of a clemens bus is indicative of town |
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Post by cyan on Jul 19, 2023 1:25:22 GMT
i was going to respond EoD but fell asleep after dinner and woke up pretty late at night, after DL ended anyway quick responses having ddlc top town is kinda wild explain that to me Clouds also i dont think cyan/clems is svs clems rxn is probably genuine so is clem/cyan svt in your eyes? i'm not seeing a lot of outcomes where that's tvt, it's most likely svt re: ddlc maybe yeah. i liked dumb things like the myan read and his posting seems relatively pure when he's here, plus he doesn't pair too well with winsy who's got a decent chance of flipping red in any case, fame's slot (termsofservice) is my true top town i guess. i'll see what ddlc does this phase, he is definitely more active than i expected him to be but that's a bad reason to suggest a possibility of someone being scum for everything you've said about ddlc's activity, i raise you questions about his contribution. not a single post or vote from ddlc has progressed or informed gamestate in any way. they're just... making commentary, i guess? wouldn't think of it as scum-AI either but it begs the question of why you were TRing him in the first place i digress. i haven't been reading the thread much unfortunately but i do have a big thought the zeito wagon is kind of just... arse? there are slots playing far worse than them and basing a vote around zeito being a myanmario sub is just frankly very weak slight lean on clouds for getting on but pulling off later. fingerlings and ddlcfan69 should claim here cyan/zeito are unpartnered off of posts like this. you don't really defend your partner like that when they're that at risk of flipping knowing how it'd look after this post in general gives me chills cause there's no reason ddlc/fingerlings should've claimed there, and also cause cyan reduces the reason for the zeito vote down to them being a myan sub which was strictly ddlc's reasoning as far as i know. asking ddlc in particular to claim is the weirdest part of this cause he was nowhere near going over like fingerlings was, so why single him out? cyan/ddlc may have a decent chance of being s/s zeito wagon looked off bc the only explicit reason for the push, back then, was them being the slot that subbed for myan. hell even in light of recent activity i'm still unconvinced there's substantial reason to scumread zeito, which begs the question why are fingerlings/ddlcfan69/clouds scumreading zeito? i wanted the former two to claim because you got off last-minute on one of the wagons. the vote on zeito just reeks "easy push ha HA" to me and i need you to either convince me otherwise or look at the slots working with you on it |
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Post by cyan on Jul 16, 2023 16:40:25 GMT
derz's death is virtually unreadable by virtue of how strong their play was (or would've been, we can't say) relative to the rest of the game
i think it's obvious at this point what scum intended to achieve with that kill, although it does beg the question of why kill a quiet slot like pisx n1
was someone under more fire in d2 than in d1?
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Post by cyan on Jul 16, 2023 16:37:57 GMT
i think we've already reached the point of general apathy if derz was wrong on both his aka and fingerlings read then i dont see the point in scum killing him tbh unless he softed pr somewhere This honestly feeds into the kill being more random, which makes me feel like it could be clems here. "random kill" derz died derz died and you're calling that kill random |
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Post by cyan on Jul 16, 2023 3:32:46 GMT
i retract my statement about clemens needing to be subbed maybe they're just dumb AND scum
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Post by cyan on Jul 16, 2023 3:30:33 GMT
slight lean on clouds for getting on but pulling off later. fingerlings and ddlcfan69 should claim here what about claiming? I'm predicting vt 'claims' regardless of role except being the real pr which just baits the kill while doing nothing, also a vt 'claim' What do you expect, ddlc/fing going, "Oh yes, I'm Mafia Goon, oh no you got me! I'm so really sad!" like what do you expect from them right there i'm obviously covering my bases to make sure we're not killing a pr, because there should be 3 of them left rn i want fingerlings and ddlc out and with how contrived your post is (calling me out for wanting claims???) i'm tempted to believe you're partnered with at least one of them now and your blatant disinterest in anything but towncred up to this point only makes this vote all the more compelling Vote clemensthelemon |
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Post by cyan on Jul 16, 2023 1:49:30 GMT
i digress. i haven't been reading the thread much unfortunately but i do have a big thought
the zeito wagon is kind of just... arse? there are slots playing far worse than them and basing a vote around zeito being a myanmario sub is just frankly very weak
slight lean on clouds for getting on but pulling off later. fingerlings and ddlcfan69 should claim here
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Post by cyan on Jul 16, 2023 1:45:45 GMT
i said i'm keeping you in my good graces because your play is just god-awful as either alignment and i really think you deserve to be subbed more than to be voted
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