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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 28, 2023 17:46:22 GMT
slightly dislike the focus on "find mafia" from you it reminds me of a certain arachnoid room owner when they roll 3rd party Pretty sure I just made a post about the high potential of a third party being present in this game, which 3p that could be, and what we can do to find them. EBWOP i fucked up the quote again ^^ i did find the fact they were focusing on mafia in their initial sr posts a bit weird but the post about potential 3rd parties including cultafia I think did a great deal to shed light onto potential probs and scum factions in the game that I think would’ve not really brought up otherwise |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 28, 2023 17:41:35 GMT
I'm gonna dive right into the winsy tiny iso here, but a couple of general remarks first.
1. I'm not a fan of their tone here as it gives a very flippant/defensive stance without much scumhunting intent
2. Inconsistencies between their reads and vote/lack of follow up on their reads
3. The bulk of their engagement and SRs are limited to those on their wagon I'll elaborate further on these reasons as I go through their iso. I don't like how these two posts are their first instance of game engagement:
So this goes back to point 1- the tone of this post is quite defensive. To me, the first message reads as if they're operating on the assumption "my discard is scummy -> I will be SRed -> I must preemptively defend myself". This is somewhat NAI in isolation but I feel the tone of these posts and the unnecessary early justification coming from them isn't great. The second post is something I can see coming from a town perspective if they were actively being SRed. However their reaction is quite exaggerated as only aka and clemens spoke about the sacrifice discard as a mild sl and there were no strong SRs this early into the day. Overall, not a fan of the defensive tone and preemptive counter to being SRed before there was any incentive to vote their slot.
i don't think this is defensive for winsy cause you'd rather not draw attention to something pre-emptively for this exact reason. seems genuine from them and can fit into their claim (if they claim); sac is a horrible role to play and prolongs the game forever and seems like a way to generate self-centered content (which happens) This was followed by a clemens vote, and their next noteworthy post is:
Their entire game engagement at this point has been limited to the people on their wagon, bringing me to point 2. Their vote on clemens and subsequent shift to sring alex and aka after clemens got off the SRs on IC and Sacrifice is really poor game engagement. At this point I felt like aka was mostly leading town, had follow ups and good prods with other slots. Alex had the most game engagement and actively gave a direction for the discussion and I feel the justification that "these two people SR me so they're scum" is really weak and makes me SR winsy tiny as there is no effort to scumhunt here.
(I acknowledge this could be influenced by hindsight bias as I read the entire thread and TRed alex and aka before isoing this but I feel the point about engagement still stands)
i.e feels like winsy is the type of person to hyperfocus on themself and is probably closer to being lost (town/scum) than trying to find a vote here. their activity is based on how they treated that scumread which is unsaid but it seems legit to me It is interesting to note that after the aka sr, winsy votes alex and says:
This goes back to point 1 (flippant tone) and point 3 (read/vote inconsistency). If you have a strong SR on aka, why would you vote Alex and indicate you're willing to shift anywhere? There have also been posts in between talking about aka's inconsistent tone where they say: "This feeds into the point I was making about akakakp earlier, where they were pressuring alex, feels like they just start pushing, then either stop, or flip their reasoning. Feels weird" I feel it is rather strange for winsy to remain parked on Alex for as long as they did when all their posts have actively been SRing aka. It simply doesn't make sense, and they followed up by voting MMIB into fingerlings by EOD, the latter of which was a pretty strong TR in the thread. I feel the tone of many posts here, limited engagement in the thread (they later engaged with MMIB upon being prodded, which I will address) and the general inconsistencies between their posts and their votes are all worth considering.
This is my strongest early SR, do lmk if I've missed anything out here. Will post again soon comparing winsy/mmib interactions and motogp iso if I have time.
game is modplur, vote without push is gonna be fairly common; their fingerlings vote was pretty much that since they weren't focused on getting a vote off and its very uncoordinated compared to thread consensus a) hello lin b) comments in bluec) i don't think a lot of this is ai for winsy; i think them not showing up at all despite early motivation to play/claim d2 is pretty sketchy, don't think its damning. i can see the calling scummy but this portrays an angle of their play in your eyes i think as opposed to what winsy could have thought Interesting analysis. Did you have to write in blue though so I couldn’t read it lmao. Do you think winsy is not scum then? Do you think moto is? Do you have a dif vote you’re wanting? I’m not sure I quite agree w you on some of the arguments about it not being AI, I think all comments have some kind of alignment indication. But then again, we don’t really have much at all to go off of in terms of winsy. Afk slot rn. Hasn’t done a whole lot to prove they are town in anyone’s eyes. And I heavily disliked the “me vs aka” day. Just didn’t think it was genuine |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 28, 2023 17:34:11 GMT
help why do I kinda think sand is town LMAO
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 28, 2023 17:28:35 GMT
btw: n1 iamveryhappy n2 mmib i |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 28, 2023 13:37:44 GMT
ye I mean I’m 100% for a winsy vote asw, the more I was looking into moto’s tone and stuff the more it felt like his usual frustrated town tone. It’s very hard to tell in a forum game though where ever sentence can be thought out or planned.
not sure if winsy flips red or not but do think they have a legitimate shot at being scum. I still don’t understand their flip flop reasoning on me and aka, especially when they seemed to have been pushing aka way harder but voted me.
I would still like a claim, which I’m not sure is gonna happen.
But fuck it, we ball.
unvote moto
Vote winsy
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 28, 2023 4:06:01 GMT
this is prob gonna be extended even more isnt it
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 21:13:47 GMT
what do you even mean by this incapable of multiquoting,im pointing out that your thought process in voting me over winsy doesnt make sense How do you know my thought process anyway lol. But read what aka said and then read my vote again. You’re acting as if i sr winsy marginally more than you. Winsy is literally afk. You are anti town. |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 21:10:28 GMT
Cuddleszz is not mafia but likely third party,massclaim is still a great option,where did winsy claim cudd is hardtown fwiw |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 21:09:18 GMT
I think aka and litt scumhunting is town motivated and I also think last scum is either on me or afk You are purposefully leaving me out of that group atp |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 19:38:35 GMT
Btw, doesn’t cultafia alternate between kills and recruits depending on what night it is? Could explain lack of kill last night Unfortunately they can kill every night Huh. Wonder when that was changed. |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 18:55:40 GMT
News tonight by akakakp presents the follow announcement: hi, i wanted to mention that there isn't actually an sk in si and i don't think any town made a kill n1 which leaves us with the following 5 possibilities: Alien who wasted shot n1, alien blackmailer, cultafia leader, inquisitor, or bulletproof shadow. 2 kills on n2 may make alien possible, but i'm doubting both alien options since i would expect more kills out of an alien blackmailer and also wouldn't expect alien to use their shot immediately. We're now left with: -- Leader of the cultafia -- a role that can kill every night and simultaneously convert someone to a cultist on even nights -- yikes! -- Bulletproof shadow -- a role that can kill every night, cannot die at night, and takes on the role powers of a separate target n1 -- pretty scary! -- Inquisitor -- a role that can kill every night and have any failed kills turn into a convert -- mega yikes, especially since we should have been expecting 3 kills last night if a 3p is present! Unsure what we can do about a potential cult right now, but what we can do is prepare for the bulletproof shadow -- if our lovely vigilante fingerlings tries to shoot this role, it'll fail, and fingerlings will have no way to communicate that to us. To solve this, we can communicate to fingerlings: vote for who they should shoot, and if that person doesn't die, we vote them out on account of being bulletproof. I think winsy needs to go already since they simply aren't posting, and they also said they pick roles for fun and what's more fun than a broken 3p? Tonight, i am motioning for fingerlings to shoot winsy tinsy -- if anyone has any suggestions please feel free to discuss! -- this will conclude our irregularly scheduled program  Yeee good analysis. The fault that ppl can be culled rn is scary. Btw, doesn’t cultafia alternate between kills and recruits depending on what night it is? Could explain lack of kill last night |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 17:14:17 GMT
but I agree I’ve been more focused on trs and general poe than actual flips. Scumreads oops* also myan isn’t mafia now, so there’s that. |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 17:13:47 GMT
but I agree I’ve been more focused on trs and general poe than actual flips.
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 17:09:49 GMT
iirc myan only had like 1 post. I did gut tr mmib beginning of game but that kinda went away the more the game progressed, was wanting a winsy flip but offered to vote mmib asw in regards to moto thing, it’s not rlly about him flipping maf but just scum in general. I would be down for a winsy vote asw. really need to hear more from myan it’s getting annoying |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 13:37:26 GMT
pestering thought has been if mmib tried to spew winsy town through self pres esp cause they didnt appeal to me at eod at all to vote winsy and i never felt pressured to not vote mmib after my earlier progression winsy wasn’t voting mmib either but p sure that’s just to them being afk lol. I think mmib would be fine if winsy flipped instead of him as partners, would shed better light into him |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 13:19:35 GMT
O PCB has been subbed lmao let’s go
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 13:19:22 GMT
hello litt!!
just pcb and winsy missing now.
Do you think there’s a better vote than moto? Unsure how to feel about myan just because of the inactivity, not really much to read
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 11:21:30 GMT
We could do popcorn massclaim but 1) a successful massclaim is near impossible with 4/9 posters absent and 2) I don't see it changing anything about the vote today frankly idk why im being voted in the first place but ive wanted to be subbed for a while now so thats good what is the point of even subbing in if u instantly want to be subbed out |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 11:17:59 GMT
vote motoi would like to hear more from winsy, think they could still be scum. missing here what do you even mean by this |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 27, 2023 0:50:21 GMT
hello sand nice of u to join us
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 26, 2023 22:20:34 GMT
Do you think massclaiming would benefit us rn. Also 4 ppl still yet to post anything so that’s cool |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 26, 2023 19:17:09 GMT
sr winsy -> vote your sl with no progression I believe you can read better than your protraying man. Context clues. Please. |
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 26, 2023 19:16:09 GMT
I need litt
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 26, 2023 18:53:20 GMT
lmk when you read past the first 2-3 pages moto or have smthn worth responding to that I haven’t already discussed
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Post by Alexander489 on Jun 26, 2023 18:50:13 GMT
lowkey wish we had a dayvig to shoot moto
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