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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 20:31:08 GMT
It’s almost as if theres more time in the day, see the issue is, i live on the other side of the world and am going to fall asleep since i can't exactly convince people to vote gary if they don't give a damn about the vote while i'm awake i don't think i'm going to be able to convince people while i'm asleep sigh i'm just going to sleep, have a day.
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 20:24:35 GMT
Gary really likes going "what" or "zzz" and expecting us to divine what he means, its been going great Over here for example what he is referring to with "what" is the tea party he attended yesterday at 4:30, it had a striking parallel to the gamestate so he felt the need to bring it up
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 20:15:35 GMT
I don’t know your noms but i understand your reads better so I can assume Its quite impressive, i wasn't aware you could've shown that you didn't give a damn about the vote even more
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 20:14:17 GMT
nvm this answers that But why do u want cudds to just unvote? Like few things here 1. You want one sole thing 2. I can't tell if this is more survivalism or a push on arti 3. What if arti SRs you? Like you don't seem to be considering the other perspective (this isn't limited to arti, but to everyone) 4. What does "I understand why you wouldn't" mean Been going back and rereading Gary, honestly I like this post where it feels like Garys trying to understand things more from Turt (this was from when Turt was getting nommed) Backtracking again, why did you vote turt and then say "its obvious enough turt is just townflipping here"? If you're so confident he is town, are you somehow even more confident the other 2 are town. Or is it you really that badly think they're all town and turt gives the best noms? Further, what makes me/john/ice 1. Scum individually 2. Scum partnered I've already said enough times Im not a fan of the partnered stuff but I want to see how u came to this conclusion. The only way I see it is you took the old ass meta of 1 active scum and 2 less-so. This is another one i like where hes attempting to prompt Cuddz to explain things so that he can better understand them and like the impression i was getting from it was like attempting to get a better understanding of Cuddz, as well as the thought process thats being put behind cuddz talking about the people he thinks is scum I'm not sold on any of these slots rn. I have significantly liked art's progression through the game, the reads have become more developed. Turt slot bothers me: I don't like its posts in terms of game- especially like where it responded me with the several multiquotes and basically said "i wasnt mentioned gg" but like- I have to wonder if scum does that? And maybe I'm getting in over my head about it. The cudds/turt interactions I'm also not really sure what was happening there. Cudds also tends to meta that cudds is scum if he doesn't start insta deathtunelling, and I hate metaing but I can't help but wonder. I'll leave that there. Feels like Garys actually developing reads and has progression where hes taking stock of artis progression and noticed it becoming more developed, its something i honestly think points townie Shoot, i forgot a post too :/ ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/129512 its here though, Garys progression this way was disliking one of Pcb / Aligning, and later coming to a point where hes liking PCB a lot more after elaboration, It gives me like Gary put conscious thought into these and like actual consideration and reads townie to me tbh Gary keeps saying "the reads have become more developed" but ignores the part where...the developing read is on him, have you like- taken note of that part? He's cheering fuck yeah arti is figuring the game out! while i'm scumreading them. Do you maybe think something's a bit wrong here? And yeah "asking cuddz questions" like...what? quite literally every member of the active(and even inactive) pl did that (not that we got a god forsaken response) They're poking for a response but only when they've popped up on noms, did you notice that? Where was the "Cuddz the fuck is your read" prior to that? he's definitely been tunnelling since start of game
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 20:08:31 GMT
I think cudds maybe the objectively correct vote but i dont see it being the productive one - I wanna know what their noms would be first :think: you don't know my noms, nor do you establish your sr any further than "he's scum", you don't case gary or cuddz. I don't think you're even interested in the vote, what exactly are you aiming for this day to achieve?
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 19:25:46 GMT
If anyone has questions please just ask beforehand, i will not be here at eod
Vote @garythesavage if by some miracle of the ones above you're town, please don't nom me without having a read on me.
no one has been pressuring me(pcb and sheep drop in, say absolutely nothing of substance, leave.)
no one is bothering to ask questions
The fuck sort of spontaneous wagon generation are people expecting to happen with my nom
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 19:21:40 GMT
This is a terrible take btw, no one had a lick of an idea on who was getting voted out because votecounts have been pretty bad. Disagree, because in every world we know you were not the one being voted. The idea that scum didn't care which player was voted of the two of me and toni is still there. I also hate that i have to point this out, but quite literally every single active player voted on those wagons, why do we continue to ignore that? At minimum half of the scumteam was participating in the vote.
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 19:20:51 GMT
i'm going to drag pcb here one sec I'm only putting quotes from today and yesterday, prior to that afaik, pcb was sheeping the "You have a bad d1!" followed with the "You had a good day 2!" both things that...again atleast 3-4 slots had already said Ello ello was planning to be here at SOD but then it was late and i will NEVER forgive edj!! right now I think i prefer Arti > Toni ≈ Gary, i've seen a few people floating around Gary scumreads and id be interested in elaboration on them (specifically from whoah though cuddz/yash can also chip in here) prod entrance into day further solidifying towncore status, whoahza feels >randtown from entry and reads on nommed slots, not a fan of dbdl's most recent line (feels forcedly townie) i'm tired so not gonna say much more here unless people would like to prod me Scumleans me, has no reasoning, nor did they care to elaborate on why they read gary/toni as nulls or townleans here nvm i just skimmed the wallpost whoahza feels very townie rn just because i'm mindmelding with the progression on arti slot saying that the slot started off as scummy but progressed to being a townlean mirrors my thoughts exactly and so that read just feels very organic gts scumread isn't something i subscribe to and i dont really follow the reasoning for it tbh but i think it is authentic in a similar vein to yash v om Sheeps whoaza's read, tr's me? i'm going to postfarm to beat the other game vote @articunight didn't like your vote on gary/read revolving around them/toni + i think toni/gts have been townier than you even if i have progressed to overall null/tl your slot rn gary feels very DADT right now tbh, i feel like there has to be 2-3 scum within the lurkers (which includes toni atp and i wouldn't mind them going over either rn) and i do echo the statement that the amount of people just coming to sr/sl gary does feel ~off to me? /shrug nulls me? scumreads me? Don't know whats happening, thinks my read was worse, thinks toni/gts were townier(no elaboration on how) Only real read on gary is that the number of people on the vote is "off" sheeping again Doesn't toni have like one message at sod about it being 2 am? Are you reading something that i'm not? Where is this progression coming from i think toni had a strong d1 and a decent d2 from what they posted that day they've fallen off but they aren't like the total lurkslots (which atp is really just ice_knight since whoah is slightly townie and deadbydaylight is slightly scummy rn) where it's impossible to read them that being said i also tl you just not to the same extent as i do the other slots right now but the wagon buildup is raising some red flags and i think you had an awkward vote on gary Upon questioning, another sheeped answer "they had a better d1/d2"(Which fuck me has likely been the most repeated statement in this game atp), no concrete examples. TL's me, but less than gary and toni, still thinks my vote on gary is awkward, does not elaborate Actually i take my words back i dont think arti is inherently apart of that but the only reads I can find on them are from pcb who’s not, imo, been a town-focused slot this whole game i seem to agree with all of your scumreads (or at least foses) atp though? i fossed dbdl for the line you pointed out and have been scumreading pd's wallposts for most of this game just because i scumlean your slot and thought arti was the least townie out of the votes yesterday doesn't mean i'm not a town focused slot Acknowledges that they're sheeping again(previously mentioned "mindmelding" with whoaza re: quoted posts above) Still thinks i'm less towny than looking at votes yesterday it seems like scum didn't really care who went over between toni/gts tbh arti/whoah tentatively feel scummier off that and gts townier Thinks i'm scum(the read has become consistent) but the basis is...that no one really cares about the toni/gts vote? pd/dbdl/whoah/ice/arti/sgm is my broad scumpool i think this can be narrowed down to just pd/dbdl/ice/sgm since whoah/arti are still slightly townie overall but i don't think sgm is aligned with both of pd/dbdl as scum so there probably has to be a scum within them? Full readlist is... a lurkslot, another lurkslot, john's sub, a lurkslot, me \o/, a lurkslot You're not even pretending to look at OM/Prod/Cuddz/Gary, nor did you give much of a damn about the toni slot yesterday Your sole focus has been on lurkslots, and now for the past 2 days me despite having absolutely nothing worth of a read... The thing that absolutely forced you to read me imo was A: I was getting nommed with gary B: Someone(i think peng?) pointed out that your reads were...just sheeps and coasting on idle slots. Nothing of substance had been said all game
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 18:56:59 GMT
looking at votes yesterday it seems like scum didn't really care who went over between toni/gts tbh arti/whoah tentatively feel scummier off that and gts townier I quite like this take, but did it feel like scum control of a vote? And if so, who was or were the person(s) controlling? This is a terrible take btw, no one had a lick of an idea on who was getting voted out because votecounts have been pretty bad.
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 18:55:39 GMT
sorry for my sin of getting nommed 3 days in a row? I'll try harder to talk less, maybe i can get ignored by people then...
PCB's entire scumlist is "All the idle slots, oh and arti" which is pretty god awful and reaches back to peng's claim about them coasting, they seem to be purposefully avoiding om, prod and cuddz
None of you have given a reason to tr gary apart from "cuddz has been afk and dropping oneliners" "gary has been frustrated" as far as i can tell, correct me if i'm horrifyingly wrong here
The fact that sheep and pcb are both voting me, not asking any questions just saying cry havoc
Anyhow as for as my opinions on the noms... Cuddz absolutely sucks for being afk quite literally every day despite saying stuff like "i'd be more active if the people i sr would be on noms"
Gary is still equally awful and not a single comment from him has elevated my opinion of him
I'm going to be reading for the next half hour or so so feel free to ask questions but i'm personally very sick of both of these slots
Can we have a day where we nom people that matter rather than a 3 day streak of nomming me from people who don't care to have a read on me??? Am i being saltnommed? i have no idea.
I also really don't buy the om-prod towncore(self-inflicted mostly)
There's too many slots i scumread because townplay has been 12 feet under this entire game
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 7:35:08 GMT
yoooo good stuff everyone gonna read the game and then vote, still leaning GTS considering what I've read but in all honesty idk how to read articoo atm so I will try to do that sporadically the fuck you mean good stuff :sob:
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Post by articunight on Jun 22, 2024 7:34:31 GMT
was my vote not counted LOL gary you should be dead you had one job
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 22:33:30 GMT
?_? Should I not pay attention to your coasting? is that the issue at hand? Sorry for thinking it makes you scummier than pcb? I didn't feel that they were coasting until peng raised it though since i haven't looked at peng/pcb/om today, i think i mentioned that in my first wave of posts Again, I said none of this. Just I disagree. And again, you didn't answer the question zz I feel that i've answered you... if i'm misunderstanding maybe clarify the question rather than going zzz...
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 22:31:58 GMT
idek why you'd want to nom me atm, apart from pcb? idt anyone even wants to push me... nor do you have a read on me You scumread gary more than me here, but that kinda stinks of survivalism rather than a read my primary sr is just cuddz really gts as a partner would make sense there This...feels out of touch, the same thing i accused whoaza(john sub) of Cuddz-gts would be the only thing i'd consider unpartnered atm
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 22:27:35 GMT
I'm of the opinion that you're the most blatant example of it, your d3 has gone a lot better but like, idt i should disregard your prior days in favour of the day when you're nommed and plur? I mean, I don't agree with you. You can think that I coasted d1 and d2, I disagree. You didn't answer my question tho, you just doubled down on me zz ?_? Should I not pay attention to your coasting? is that the issue at hand? Sorry for thinking it makes you scummier than pcb? I didn't feel that they were coasting until peng raised it though since i haven't looked at peng/pcb/om today, i think i mentioned that in my first wave of posts
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 22:25:20 GMT
my noms are gts / cuddz / articoo btw idek why you'd want to nom me atm, apart from pcb? idt anyone even wants to push me... nor do you have a read on me You scumread gary more than me here, but that kinda stinks of survivalism rather than a read
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 22:22:54 GMT
How do you see pcb's coasting but not gary's Is this an acknowledgement you think we're both "coasting" or is it just me you still believe that far I'm of the opinion that you're the most blatant example of it, your d3 has gone a lot better but like, idt i should disregard your prior days in favour of the day when you're nommed and plur?
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 22:20:39 GMT
read somewhere from articunight that cuddz has had it out for gts most of the game but i'm looking at this votelist and they don't seem to be voting gts? they messed up the vote syntax and haven't been on since :pain: I was mainly just questioning cuddz to figure out their thought process, idt i was pressuring/scumreading them? that's wholly your own assumption i'm afraid. Seeing as none of you were around, i thought i may as well poke other people instead at that time
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 21:34:27 GMT
Votecount 4.2?: 4 hours and 10 minutes to go until deadline. If deadline was right now, Gary The Savage would be voted out. Please let me know of any mistakes in the Votecount. (3) Gary The Savage : yashgreninja , articunight , whoahza (2) Crespo : Prodigu , PenguinD (1) articunight : PokeCartBeast (7) Not Voting: cuddleszz , Sheep★Go★Moo , Crespo , Ice_Knight , deadbydaylight , Gary The Savage , OM~! Make sure to submit your Death Noms in Snaquaza's PMs even if you are not being voted right now before the day is over. Remember: they will be randomized if you do not (though I'll try to track you down first). you all lied to me toni only has 2 votes and gts has 3 wagons are much closer than i initially thought still, void the reads on toni/gary for DADT there may be a scum in these noms tbh just because it feels like these wagons are developing very differently than they did on me/aligning/om day okay sohelpme what is DADT? Defence against Dark Town?
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 21:17:25 GMT
while you're here PD, i did like this wallpost in comparison to your other two popins but i'd like further elaboration on your read on me here i seem to be your primary scumread this game which doesn't make sense because you yourself have chalked the read up to just being 'vibes'? theres so many lines of yours that just feel forced and fake esp regarding how you read into the whoahza slot. your lines this game just give off active coaster vibes which is generally a scumtell. the questioning from you throughout game also doesnt feel like town questions that take initiative to solve and have real progression, maybe im scrutinizing too hard but everything just feels offHow do you see pcb's coasting but not gary's
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 21:09:32 GMT
i'm going to postfarm to beat the other game vote @articunight didn't like your vote on gary/read revolving around them/toni + i think toni/gts have been townier than you even if i have progressed to overall null/tl your slot rn gary feels very DADT right now tbh, i feel like there has to be 2-3 scum within the lurkers (which includes toni atp and i wouldn't mind them going over either rn) and i do echo the statement that the amount of people just coming to sr/sl gary does feel ~off to me? /shrug Doesn't toni have like one message at sod about it being 2 am? Are you reading something that i'm not? Where is this progression coming from
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 21:07:26 GMT
Because the game isn't ending tomorrow OM, they can afford to bus, its dnommy... But by your reasoning, that is exactly what is happening (i.e., tony having openings and being voted instead. The question is if this means you're solving the game in a manner that paints you as scum) Gary's been "present" i guess. He's been louder than toni but has been functionally the same me personally I don't bus in themes that can go for a million nights because I love myself Is it? I'm specifically questioning the wagon itself because it's, like, we are 0 for 3 right now, the GTS voters are general outside slots who I range from strong sr on to light townread on. I just think it's not a town-motivated / natural town wagon. I think it's reasonable to counterwagon if you think the reason a lot of ppl are throwing votes on GTS early is because there's a wolf in the noms they want out tbh. As for the question - what's your answer there? To me everything I do is about being as townie as possible tbh, if ppl sr me I think it's paranoia rather than an actual reason to do so.
I disagree idk I think being around and having questions is better than not being around at all.
You believe that wolves are involved in the gamestate(considering we hit town three in a row) You acknowledge that toni is a lot less active, with GTS being around and poking things, but not really doing anything I'm of the opinion that scum is a slot that wants to coast atm, pretend to be a contributory force for town while...not really doing anything which fits gary to the bill as far as i'm concerned. I'm sure there's a scum or two in the lurker slots. Don't you think the _VERY_ rapid counterwagon generation to the otherwise steady gary vote is odd? Everyone wants to pop up at eod to save gary despite absolutely crying and shaking to get them nommed yesterday? The toni read that i've seen so far has quite literally just been "people are voting gary too quickly" ("people" being 2 lurker slots, cuddz who has a blood feud, and me) The second part of the toni read that you guys have raised is that they're afk. The toni read is dumb, primarily because its a shallow excuse to remove a lurker slot, that you guys are showing around as a decent scumread. my bad sorry you're right I should let the game die and town lose by falling asleep at the wheel "I should let the game die" lol very kind of you to keep it alive so far Trying to ignore the fact that we have a significant part of our pl not voting or contributing across multiple days with a statement like this is kinda zzz
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 20:03:32 GMT
OM repeatedly focusing on "The day's been going too easily" Sir half the pl hasn't woken up in two days, what are you expecting?
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 20:02:36 GMT
My issue with this line of thinking is that wolf would probably bus gary here, no? or maybe we have dual scum that's coasting in toni/gary? Currently the people on gary are yash->Whoaza(John sub)->cuddz->articoo(brand new fr) You guys aren't really convincing me on toni and i'm very tired today from the noshows from both toni and gary so far :/ Vote @garythesavage Please give us a toni nom tomorrow if you flip town Why not just vote toni zz Because you're going to flip red, hopefully
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Post by articunight on Jun 21, 2024 20:01:44 GMT
My issue with this line of thinking is that wolf would probably bus gary here, no? or maybe we have dual scum that's coasting in toni/gary? Currently the people on gary are yash->Whoaza(John sub)->cuddz->articoo(brand new fr) You guys aren't really convincing me on toni and i'm very tired today from the noshows from both toni and gary so far :/ Vote @garythesavage Please give us a toni nom tomorrow if you flip town Why would wolves just bus Gary when they can just vote you or toni lol both of those had openings I think specifically the stacking on Gary is sketchy and I am pushing back bc I don't trust the slots who are voting them, nor do I like their progression for doing so. I think Gary's just been more present than toni has, and I think questioning me as a townread is completely valid here, we're 0 for 3 lol. Because the game isn't ending tomorrow OM, they can afford to bus, its dnommy... But by your reasoning, that is exactly what is happening (i.e., tony having openings and being voted instead. The question is if this means you're solving the game in a manner that paints you as scum) Gary's been "present" i guess. He's been louder than toni but has been functionally the same
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