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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:51:24 GMT
If someone on Ed wants to sell me on Ed I'm down to hear but legit am just not caught up on anything he's done tl;dr wacky reads but only because these people can't handle me. They don't understand how my mind works so they choose to fear me, not realizing that I'm their greatest ally |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:49:35 GMT
For the record I would support a PTSD vote over an iavh vote right now
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:49:02 GMT
I haven't voted you once Edj so I'm not on ya Sorry my bad I was skimming and blanked on the last person |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:48:41 GMT
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:48:15 GMT
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:47:08 GMT
I mean my wagon. I didn't think it would go this far not sure if you were busy but it probably wasn't worth waiting to 15 minutes left for this what alternative do you want then if you're unvoting fame here Well I forgot until I looked at the time, I was gonna go to bed |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:45:58 GMT
Just unvote dude
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:45:09 GMT
I didn't think it would actually go this far I was busy this evening ?_? then why did you vote whatsoever, was it a pressure vote? i can kinda see it considering it didn't even seem like you scumread them at the time you asked me to vote but like i don't get it whatsoever, what is the point in making the vote if you don't have conviction in the read to begin with at the very least i guess it's ridiculous for you to push against this now as mafia considering you have plur I mean my wagon. I didn't think it would go this far |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:43:53 GMT
Why am I actually the vote here, can you guys hop off
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:42:47 GMT
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:42:20 GMT
I didn't think it would actually go this far I was busy this evening
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 19, 2024 4:41:37 GMT
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 18, 2024 22:39:07 GMT
Edjean your read on me is so absurdly all over the place I don't believe you feel any conviction towards it Recognises the question is 'just an inquiry' (fine) and then seems to agree that the IAVH response is terrible and worthy of a push, doesn't do anything of the sort afterwards Look at the timestamps between this post and the next oneFeel like you're just circling back to something pertaining to my entrance here which you already end up giving reasons for...being fine later on? Think this post is more neutral than you're framing it I voted you there for your tone because it was just snappy instead of actually sounding like you were looking for somethingAgain, do you think the IAVH slot is worth pushing or not? You seemed excited to find something to push but you completely abandon that opportunity to consistently hedge on this half baked read on me No I lost interest in the iavh slot because trying to solve the madness between iavh/stp just isn't necessary for today, that's why I said I skimmed the pagesWhere is the conviction? Do you think it's NAI or not? All of your posts are completely contradictory? This was sarcasm lmaoIs it fine or isn't it? I said it was fine for then, as in I was still waiting to hear more from you. Hence why I said I'll revisit it laterWhat do you think about a Fame vote, Edjean? I still want to see it because I still think your reads provide a decent amount of information. I said Fen because you two are the ones who made big read posts, I never said I actually wanted to vote Fen. That would be ridiculouso answers in bold btw |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 18, 2024 22:38:51 GMT
Edjean your read on me is so absurdly all over the place I don't believe you feel any conviction towards it NVM I found a reason to push you instead bc that was a terrible response to what I now realize was just an inquiry from Fame Recognises the question is 'just an inquiry' (fine) and then seems to agree that the IAVH response is terrible and worthy of a push, doesn't do anything of the sort afterwards Look at the timestamps between this post and the next oneI feel like saying "well what would YOU" have done is really not townie lol, like it doesn't come off as someone who's trying to make it look like what they did isn't scummy it's just defensive Vote Fame check this shit out I correctly bolded on mobile Feel like you're just circling back to something pertaining to my entrance here which you already end up giving reasons for...being fine later on? Think this post is more neutral than you're framing it I voted you there for your tone because it was just snappy instead of actually sounding like you were looking for somethingI do agree with this point, I've skimmed through like 2 pages because it just seems like meaningless going back and forth arguments instead of actually trying to figure out what's going on. Then again that's also probably due to a total of like 4 people speaking within the first 5 pages but still. Also Gary we shall not fight this game Again, do you think the IAVH slot is worth pushing or not? You seemed excited to find something to push but you completely abandon that opportunity to consistently hedge on this half baked read on me No I lost interest in the iavh slot because trying to solve the madness between iavh/stp just isn't necessary for today, that's why I said I skimmed the pagesOkay well since you said to put it down as NAI I'll do that Where is the conviction? Do you think it's NAI or not? All of your posts are completely contradictory? This was sarcasm lmaoI mean it's fine because there really wasn't much to go off at that point but it's weird because like, those are the first two votes of the game and you're already trying to seem like you're analyzing stuff I said it's fine for RN because it's more something to revisit later on than an actual point right now Is it fine or isn't it? I said it was fine for then, as in I was still waiting to hear more from you. Hence why I said I'll revisit it laterWhat do you think about a Fame vote? I think after the reads post it could reveal a lot of information. Same goes for Fen but I don't sr him What do you think about a Fame vote, Edjean? I still want to see it because I still think your reads provide a decent amount of information. I said Fen because you two are the ones who made big read posts, I never said I actually wanted to vote Fen. That would be ridiculous |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 18, 2024 22:32:46 GMT
I feel like it should be pretty obvious that I meant voting the others is fine and not myself. Either way that was the part I said I didn't mind, I didn't really read the rest of it because it was a cudd post and cudd posts are usually skimmable But now that I actually go back and look at it I don't really agree with it lmao. I can't really see hypos helping us much here? Unless he just means cop hypos. I didn't see the original post from Fen. But yeah I don't think the votepool he laid out really tells us anything? I feel like they're the people with the least amount of interactions so it would do quite the opposite of what he said. Man. Shit yeah like I really don't agree with this post at all. What was I saying? I was even sober for this moment. It's actually a good thing you said smth about this because I would've totally forgotten about this interaction. Thanks for pointing it out, Clouds! ^^ You can unvote me now as the under the influenced one in this forum i call bullshit this entire post sounds so fake af to me when i read it lmfao I mean I tend to skim posts, especially yours, so yeah I'm gonna say some shit that I don't agree on in the future. This one in particular was just really fucking huge because at the time I was completely fine with voting most of the people in the pool I don't know what's fake about it though |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 18, 2024 22:29:47 GMT
^also at the end of that post you asked where's your read. Idt you'd posted yet at that time or hardly at all tbf to Fen I mean I hadn't posted a lot but I still think I had posted more than... PTSD per se. Idk I just thought he would've said anything like "need more from this guy" or "not many posts but you're doing great!" or smth |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 18, 2024 22:28:48 GMT
Edjeanerations "Because of what I said about STP and the interactions between the two of them, I think the two seem to be aligned with each other. I also have a slight townie gutread on Gary since I've played so many forum games with him over the last week or two so I think both are scummy." Thats what you said abt me. Took just that cuz didn't want to quote the whole long thing but.... "I have a slight townie gutread on Gary" and "so I think both are scummy" in the same sentence is a bit contradictory mate FUCK man I meant to say townie. My whole point was that you and STP are townie. My bad |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 18, 2024 15:55:50 GMT
i know i just said i wouldn't want a D1 vote on edj and i'm not set on it by any means, but there aren't many points to praise from his presence so far and i feel like his responses to certain things have been conveniently passive and weird(?) for lack of a better term, will see if that feeling persists when he comes back around could go pass, tbz, or edj here and sleep well at night What do you think about a Fame vote? I think after the reads post it could reveal a lot of information. Same goes for Fen but I don't sr him |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 18, 2024 15:54:27 GMT
I actually don't mind this at all wha did you glance over the part where you're 1 of the names in that group? unless you mean just the other three, in which case... why? unless you're referring to the day 2 hypo strat in the event that it's the former, what don't you mind about it? do you agree with cuddz' sentiments? the vote trajectory, his reasons (or lack thereof) for the vote block? i shouldn't be put off by 1 line so much probably but this is just a weird thing to passively agree with and i don't get what makes you think it's a reasonable idea I feel like it should be pretty obvious that I meant voting the others is fine and not myself. Either way that was the part I said I didn't mind, I didn't really read the rest of it because it was a cudd post and cudd posts are usually skimmable But now that I actually go back and look at it I don't really agree with it lmao. I can't really see hypos helping us much here? Unless he just means cop hypos. I didn't see the original post from Fen. But yeah I don't think the votepool he laid out really tells us anything? I feel like they're the people with the least amount of interactions so it would do quite the opposite of what he said. Man. Shit yeah like I really don't agree with this post at all. What was I saying? I was even sober for this moment. It's actually a good thing you said smth about this because I would've totally forgotten about this interaction. Thanks for pointing it out, Clouds! ^^ You can unvote me now |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 18, 2024 15:47:54 GMT
Not ok with voting clouds or edj while they have 0 lines, we have subs so we always just wait for them to be subbed before then i straight up did not check the #forum-announcements channel and was under the impression this game was starting 24 hours later than when it did cause of the original post i'd never flake and get subbed out though, don't worry abt that I saw the game started, I just wasn't ready to play yet since I was busy lol |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 18, 2024 15:46:32 GMT
The Good Doctors Prodigu
Advent has me thinking prod might be one of the few people I can potentially townread. He feels a lot more natural here, and not in the way where Advent felt like a forced naturalness which still included Lawyer Prod Behavior. Also liked his responses to me asking him about iavh and Fame, they’re in line with what I’d expect from town trying to move things ahead with that little content to off of, see the linked posts in particular. In more recent times, the fact that he was able to so accurately key into a lot of where so many of my own reads lie makes me feel good for reasons I can't totally articulate--like a weird mindmeldy deal that also shows he's putting the work in to analyze other peoples' viewpoints.
Linked posts: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/110677
ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/110685 [/spoiler][/font][/font][/div]
Cuddleszz
Disclaimer: Some of this is outdated. I drafted in the way home, and part of my question to cuddz has been answered, but I want to put what I have before going back over recent pages.
As pointed out, his initial list doesn’t have any scumleans in it, but I like his response when this fact is brought up (linked below), particularly the admission that it’s a readlist “in progress.” Will be watching for said progress. Also a slot I’d like to discourse with some, here are the cliffnotes of my questions cuddleszz :
-Your PoE feels kind of random to me right now. Fame and Abdel, who have posted but are null for you, and Edj/Clouds, who haven’t. But there are other 0-posting slots and names you have as null who you didn’t include, so why those four in particular? And why Edj as the vote of choice as opposed to one of the people who’ve posted and are at least likely to respond to it?
-I want to discourse over a couple of your townreads, namely STP and Gary. See below for why.
Linked post: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/110758 [/spoiler][/font][/div]
Abdel? It’s been a long time since I played with Abdel, but the big thing I remember is his strong preference for being Town which imo makes it really clear when he’s scum. He doesn’t have much yet, but he’s not yet screaming scum and that’s enough for a slight townlean from me. [/spoiler][/font] [/font][/font][/div]
Undergoing Surgery
iamveryhappy This just feels like a different iavh than I’ve seen anywhere so far, to the extent where I wonder if there’s something else going on. I don’t see the same sort of analysis I’ve seen in recent iavh towngames, he seems more reactionary here as others have point out. I have a super-secret specific reason why I think this behavior could be coming from town!iavh though, so I want iavh to tell me if he feels like there’s any clear difference with his behavior here and what he’d attribute it to if so, then compare that to my own notes. [/spoiler] [/font][/div]
PassTheSaltDude In the notes app I wrote “let him cook” in parentheses next to his name. I think I have a tendency to scumread him early on, so I’m trying to step back and give him some room to breathe here. I wouldn’t say anything he’s done has moved things forward yet, but I’m inclining to give him benefit of the doubt for the time being. I want him to detail his IAVH read some more, right now to me it comes across as “iavh should engage with the questions asked of him more” but the conviction in the linked post where Pass votes iavh makes me think there’s more to the read than that (I.e. what about iavh’s behavior here is making him scummy to you?). Being null on me also feels a bit disappointing, even though I know there wasn’t a lot I kind of want to know what you decided to read into with mine/Prod’s interactions for instance that made you come away with an alignment read on only one of us. [/spoiler][/font][/div]
Fame?
Disclaimer: As with cuddz above, some of this is outdated. Haven't had the chance to look heavily over Fame's posts since returning to the thread, but I had passing thoughts on those on skim that I'll type up soon.
In parentheses next to their name I wrote “might improve.” Their first post stood out to me for a specific reason I don’t yet want to fully detail, but it’s like why does the macho modifier in particular make for annoying opportunities? Fakeclaiming doctor’s a possibility regardless, and it just felt kind of weird when I compared it in my head to their reaction to Peng’s bodyguard fakeclaim in Bway (where they immediately disbelieved it. Different context yes, but the thought was still there). And then I also thought of how Bway was often inactive until EoD and that was notoriously tilting for the active town, and I don’t know, I guess I was expecting more early day drive from Fame with that and the linked post below in mind.
Linked Post: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/110659
But I can’t decide if this is enough to a point where I should be concerned, so I need to still look through Fame’s more recent posts and I’d appreciate others’ thoughts on if this is even anything. [/spoiler][/font] [/font][/div] Medical Malpractice
slowthepoke This is the person who’s getting a Fenrir Special™️. The grounds for STP being town are there in broad strokes, but there’s already so many smaller discrepancies that I really want to sort through.
In a bit, I’m gonna lay out some of my thoughts on STP more in-depth, because I’m just not picking up on the vibes I’ve gotten in his two previous towngames here and, to be blunt, I don’t want people giving him a free pass for playing suboptimally. It’s like I told Snaq during Bway (paraphrased): “One day STP will tunnel a mod-confirmed innocent child and we’ll all just shrug it off because it’s just How He Is™️” 💀 [/spoiler] [/font][/div]
GaryTheSavage?
Gary’s another person I feel like I have trouble reading, but that’s because in my memory he’s usually subbed in for others and that colors my read on the slot. The two main things raising questions marks for me are:
-His early game behavior when there wasn’t much. Check page 2 and compare him with Prod. Both of them are in this stance of “there’s not much to read into” but where Prod put forth effort to engage and at least glean something from what there was, Gary kind of just popped in and dropped an rvs vote on cuddz even when there was stuff to at least give input on right above.
-To me he’s falling into a pattern of observing and occasionally commenting on things without giving much effort into analyzing them. His interaction with STP feels stilted in the sense that it feels like it should’ve gone somewhere and didn’t. The conviction in the linked post and the surrounding ones just feels hollow because there’s not much action backing up the words.
So like…if there were something I was gonna ask Gary The Savage at this point, it’d be like:
What makes the post from Pass so bad? It’s not obvious to me and felt fine.
You seemed strangely adamant about not voting Pass there even though you didn’t like them. How big a deal is Pass in your mind, and do you have any particular read on STP based on y’all’s interaction discussing Pass?
Linked post: ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/110741 [/spoiler][/font][/div]
This is from a while ago, but because I remember seeing it and feel like it's still relevant, abdel (and everyone else): the "validity" question with day 2 hypo claiming is because I can’t decide if it’s worth doing or if it just risks outing cop. Really, the big thing is that if we do it, we have to be of one mind on it as a collective town or it doesn’t work. Basically everyone has to be on board. (It’s less about “starting on d2 vs later” and more “hypo vs no hypo”)
To that extent I want to hear more peoples’ thoughts on it, if someone thinks there’s a reason to not now’s the time to voice it, not Day 2 when people start coming out with their claims. If we agree on it, we just have to agree on it, be like "Let's do this" and then just do it.
I like this post for the most part but I do have some issues with it. STPI understand that it's easy to see STP go buck wild and say type whatever chaotic thoughts pop into his brain but I do think there is actually a method to his madness, and it's more apparent in this game than in his PS games. S!STP tends to say the same shit but with the intent to just like, push one person. T!STP will say the same things, but his arguments and nonsense are targeted towards several people, since he actually does try to get a good grasp on several people when playing as town. Yeah, I think his message about "waiting for edj/clouds to come on before voting them" could be a type of pocket or whatever, but I don't necessarily see it as that. Although I'm usually the one to be against voting AFKs I appreciate that he's doing the same thing here, plus I think he would benefit from hearing our voices since he plays with us often. I think people are focusing on exactly what he's saying instead of why he's saying it. GaryBecause of what I said about STP and the interactions between the two of them, I think the two seem to be aligned with each other. I also have a slight townie gutread on Gary since I've played so many forum games with him over the last week or two so I think both are scummy. FameI think their gameplay has gotten better-ish but it's still not enough for me to change my read on them. In a lot of their posts I'm kind of just reading and asking myself what they're trying to get at. Sure their post with all of their reads felt better but just because you make some surface level reads it doesn't make you townie. Though I will admit the part about Fame not being able to read Prod's tone is something I appreciate because it tells me that they're looking into it a bit deeper, but if anything it could signal partnership instead of just an in-depth inspection. The IAVH read is... whatever. It seems like low-hanging fruit. The Cudd read is fine because you're putting in what you get out, so w/e. Also, why not put effort into something if you're just unsure about how things will turn out? Idk I see effort and low-effort from Fame at the same time. (that's in regard to STP btw) AbdelI just kinda wanted to say that I agree. Even though iso is broken I went back through and looked for abdel posts and really can't see anything that I could even try to scumread lmao, and I love scumreading more than townreading. But yeah he's got a bit of content but it's good content, just seems very analytical and it's not just asking questions that should receive obvious answers or ones that don't really develop anything. PassTheSaltDudeI don't really know what it is but something is off to me. I tried going back and reading his posts (once again - so hard due to iso not working) but I can't name what irks me. I think I'm just gonna need to see more from him. Wait I just realized I wasn't really speaking to you anymore. I guess these are just my own comments on some of your reads Also where's my read? Btw I'm not gonna try to fix the formatting stuff w/e |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 17, 2024 23:53:48 GMT
Kinda weird how the first thing you do is question rvs but imo it's fine rn, just pointing it out for others What's weird about it? And then why is it fine here? What do you think people can gleam from it by pointing it out? I mean it's fine because there really wasn't much to go off at that point but it's weird because like, those are the first two votes of the game and you're already trying to seem like you're analyzing stuff I said it's fine for RN because it's more something to revisit later on than an actual point right now |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 17, 2024 23:51:12 GMT
I feel like saying "well what would YOU" have done is really not townie lol, like it doesn't come off as someone who's trying to make it look like what they did isn't scummy it's just defensive Vote Fame check this shit out I correctly bolded on mobile Because it isn't scummy - you need to stop hedging on this read and articulate what you find bothersome about it because as of right now the read boils down to 'it's weird' and 'why aren't you trying to explain why that's townie' Don't care if it's townie or not, it's not supposed to be townie, generating content D1 is literally something I try to do as either alignment so fmpov you can put it down as NAI and continue Okay well since you said to put it down as NAI I'll do that |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 17, 2024 23:50:37 GMT
Wait yeah hold on I'm coming back to this. Why do you want to vote cudd bc he yaps too much when he hasn't even spoken yet? You said that like an hour ago on PS too bc its rvs its a fake reasoning u mf stop overthinking 😑 Fine w/e |
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 17, 2024 23:49:48 GMT
oml common edj reacting to earlier lines Dude if I never read in order then I will legit never read the earlier pages Sry but this is how it goes |
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