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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:53:23 GMT
well edj they both ditched me so i guess it's just you and i Hiya I know you know what to do it just sucks that we need another person to do it
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:51:32 GMT
lke gary in what universe do you say that as town lol, if i vote edj & you're town then it's forced into F3 I think that's another reason to see Gary as confscum. He wouldn't say that as the only town left, right? Which means you just need to solve between me and FTF. Sounds like Gary will vote along with ya!
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:45:42 GMT
if he's mafia why are you letting him live in your head rent-free as town you should feel as free as a bird riding the wind here, knowing you get to dunk on two goons all day that had a vote not go their day on day 1 He's only making things worse for himself
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:43:15 GMT
so i still have grievances with how it feels like you never truly questioned if i was scum edj, even though you'd air uncertainties about my slot and say it's a tough solve from my point of view it often sort of felt as if you were playing to appease me by way of having some advantageous insight into my alignment until right before i flipped where you said me x gary could be a team, but at that point, things had carried on quite far then i also take issue with ftf making a bunch of what feel like peanut gallery comments in an attempt to discredit you even if he makes good points at times, some of them from yesterday i was just like, does he actually care about this or is this just for the sake of content Okay I'll admit that I got concerned near the end of the day so I was considering all opportunities instead of which ones seemed slightly more likely but still, due to how I was later adamant with my Gary read and I hadn't yet looked into FTF much (plus it looked like 2/3 of the non-Clouds players wanted Clouds voted) then there wasn't really much of a reason to get too deep into it.
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:38:47 GMT
yeah but he is straight up willing to vote you here and hard pivoting to the idea of the solve needing to be between you & him first idfk it doesn't make sense for him to be partnered with you either if i'm being honest lol, like it'd be a clear as day attempt to get his partner voted if he voted you does he think he can win an F3 if you're his partner and he suddenly decides to vote you out of nowhere with very little justification after tunneling gary? the thing is you telegraphed you're intent and he isn't acting independent of that so like idc if you go edje this phase my issue is that idk if you're capable of finding me in f3 if this is the line of thinking you're following
Then vote me out
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:36:15 GMT
Btw FTF you should probably vote me
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:35:53 GMT
i'll never quickhammer unfort edj, i want to play this out and give everyone a fair shake i'm at something like: - 78% voting edj - 14% voting gary - 8% voting ftf Okay fine but similar to today I'm gonna be busy for a lot of tomorrow so bear with me if I'm not online to get Gary riled up and FTF annoyed for a while
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:33:00 GMT
viewing both scenarios as independent is the issue in both the idea is the same: look unpartnered and keep the game going yeah but he is straight up willing to vote you here and hard pivoting to the idea of the solve needing to be between you & him first idfk it doesn't make sense for him to be partnered with you either if i'm being honest lol, like it'd be a clear as day attempt to get his partner voted if he voted you does he think he can win an F3 if you're his partner and he suddenly decides to vote you out of nowhere with very little justification after tunneling gary? AYO, looks like Clouds figured out my plan! Why do you think I wanted both of them pitted against me?
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:31:29 GMT
same thing i said to edj in the post above very difficult to see this gambit from edj coming from an edj & gary team Maybe you're right and it is coming from a me + FTF team. You should probably vote and kill me to prove your point.......
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:30:39 GMT
I'm gonna take a step back and make any responses in the morning. Have a lovely night y'all Byeeeee
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:29:20 GMT
i want to take a second to dive into edj's "solve me vs ftf" gambit because i think it's ultra useful in reaching a solve here let's say he's not town for a minute and look at what he'd be doing with both players as his partner: - if partnered with gary, he's suddenly forcing a vote on t!ftf and essentially ending his game by binding a solve to himself and ftf first for no reason - if partnered with ftf, he's switching away from voting gary because he suddenly can't vote gary as gary is town and that would end the game i'm sorry but scenario #1 is just ridiculous, i find it hard to believe edj & gary are partnered off of this, there is zero gain for that team whatsoever which makes ftf scum by default, so in theory, if i can lock this in, can't i just vote edj into gary and then we win? am i making some oversight here sanity check me YES! YES YOU CAN! After you vote me do whatever you'd like!
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:28:29 GMT
I still feel like this game is both of you two vs me so I don't think an f3 is hard to win since the interactions will show everything what on earth is the point of a post like this
Heeheehee
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:25:14 GMT
further to that you vote wrong and then we're at f3 if this is how you currently think then can i trust you to re-eval
I still feel like this game is both of you two vs me so I don't think an f3 is hard to win since the interactions will show everything
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:24:05 GMT
Clouds im ignoring those two until further notice, idt anything productive is coming from it where's your head at
think i'm deciding the town between edj & gary soz not locking you in as mafia necessarily but just... not feeling like your presence as of late has been that of my villager partner Wait really? So you think that Gary could actually be town? You're saying that you think FTF and I could be a pair? Why is that
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:22:17 GMT
that is also coming from a point of view such as my own where i would not care if someone said my family would all die in a car accident if i voted them but that's just me and i get why the vast majority of people would be deterred by that Yeah but there are different types of ATE and I don't think that is the type that would ever be useful in a game, it's kinda just for immature people
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:20:01 GMT
Okay I mean even if you want to say I'm scum for it it's still a method, even if you think it's a poor one. It seems to be working anyways since Clouds says he's likely to vote me so say whatever you want buddy I don't think its a poor one. I do it myself all the time. I just hate that people often fall for whoever screams the loudest must be town It's different when I do it
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:18:54 GMT
I'm not upset at you man, don't worry about it. I'm using caps for emphasis right now. But I'm saying that from Gary's POV he should be focusing on pushing FTF since I should be confscum in his eyes Do I have to push FTF? you're both confscum. Whats the difference You should have tried to push FTF from yesterday.
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:16:52 GMT
i feel like im going insane watching these 2 go back and forth what are we even talking about
EDJ. King of ATE Okay I mean even if you want to say I'm scum for it it's still a method, even if you think it's a poor one. It seems to be working anyways since Clouds says he's likely to vote me so say whatever you want buddy
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:14:25 GMT
i feel like im going insane watching these 2 go back and forth what are we even talking about
lol just end it and vote me then
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:14:10 GMT
There is literally NO downside to me being voted here. FTF what was your goal in voting Clouds instead of trying to appeal to us as being townie so you get voted? You didn't have to beg for it, but you barely did anything this game to try to make your own reads, all you did was throw in mainly NAI general statements about the game dude relax i'm probably voting you anyways it's not a definite but i'm leaning towards it, i need time though i don't agree with your take that gary is confscum despite him being scummy I'm not upset at you man, don't worry about it. I'm using caps for emphasis right now. But I'm saying that from Gary's POV he should be focusing on pushing FTF since I should be confscum in his eyes
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:12:33 GMT
I had a whole post explaining that Gary was egging FTF on to vote you. Why would Gary not vote you himself if he townread you as well? If he thought you were town and FTF was Mafia why didn't he actually say "btw if this flips town then we need to push FTF next." Why is he only focusing on going toe-to-toe with me? Because I'm his biggest threat, especially now that you just got confirmed I already explained this when Clouds asked Oh where was that
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:12:19 GMT
this just feels partnered to me lol don't ask me to explain it Then vote edj- he clearly wants it after just now being defeatist like 5 mins ago Saying "there's nothing I can do to get voted so I'm preparing for day 2" is not defeatist and you know that.
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:11:04 GMT
Clouds. If you think FTF is Mafia, vote me. If you think I'm Mafia, vote me. Gary is confirmed scum so its literally conf win from your pov if you vote any one of us. how is gary confscum I had a whole post explaining that Gary was egging FTF on to vote you. Why would Gary not vote you himself if he townread you as well? If he thought you were town and FTF was Mafia why didn't he actually say "btw if this flips town then we need to push FTF next." Why is he only focusing on going toe-to-toe with me? Because I'm his biggest threat, especially now that you just got confirmed
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:09:30 GMT
There is literally NO downside to me being voted here. FTF what was your goal in voting Clouds instead of trying to appeal to us as being townie so you get voted? You didn't have to beg for it, but you barely did anything this game to try to make your own reads, all you did was throw in mainly NAI general statements about the game
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jan 14, 2024 5:07:50 GMT
so i'm leaning towards ftf is mafia and i am least likely to vote him atm in part because i don't see an edj & gary mafia team rolling over and dying while they let ftf as town be the sole vote on me how can they possibly expect to win that? surely at least one of them would vote me, or both, but nah, you're saying both are mafia and they both let ftf take all the credit? Clouds. If you think FTF is Mafia, vote me. If you think I'm Mafia, vote me. Gary is confirmed scum so its literally conf win from your pov if you vote any one of us.
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