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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Dec 18, 2022 21:26:57 GMT
AUTONOMMY
(Also known as DemocraNommy)
You know Nommy, you know Death Nommy... Introducing Autonommy!
In Autonommy, every player can nominate someone at night. This includes both town and scum!
The next day, only the nominated players can be voted for.
However, if the Mafia want to kill player A, they can try to guess who A nominates.
If they guess correctly, A dies and their nomination is cancelled.
Nominations are compulsory. No selfnoms are allowed.
As such, there can never be only one person nominated.
If everyone noms the player who is killed, and their nomination is cancelled. It is possible no one is nominated.
In this case, this day is skipped entirely.
If no Mafia is nominated in VOLO, the game ends and the Mafia win.
For now, the theme will use setups equivalent to Vanilla.
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Dec 18, 2022 21:28:34 GMT
Discussion points:
- How is the name Autonommy? It's referring to the autonomy you have!
- In the nightkill, should A be killed or the person they are nominating? Or even both!
- Should the nomination be cancelled with a successful kill? We feel it'd be fair as it's already tricky to get the kill done.
- If the kill is too hard to pull off, it could also be a Blackmailer-style kill, where they can turn someone's nomination into a nightkill. This is more swingy though as it can kill Mafia (unless we give them immunity to this).
Hope you enjoy!
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Autonommy
Dec 18, 2022 21:43:18 GMT
via mobile
Post by dewfew on Dec 18, 2022 21:43:18 GMT
Imo, the kill is way too hard to do for scum, only like 1-2 people will ever get killed in a day. I think the theme is pretty fun though
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Dec 18, 2022 21:50:34 GMT
Specify maf cannot guess themselves as person A for the guessing thing, and person A should definitely be the one dying
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Dec 18, 2022 21:52:30 GMT
Imo, the kill is way too hard to do for scum, only like 1-2 people will ever get killed in a day. I think the theme is pretty fun though i would say this is intended due to the chance that maf can get immunity from voting |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Dec 18, 2022 21:52:30 GMT
Specify maf cannot guess themselves as person A for the guessing thing, and person A should definitely be the one dying As long as A dies, I don't think Mafia would want to be A... For the kill being too hard to pull off, how'd the Blackmailer idea be? |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Dec 18, 2022 22:00:47 GMT
Specify maf cannot guess themselves as person A for the guessing thing, and person A should definitely be the one dying As long as A dies, I don't think Mafia would want to be A... For the kill being too hard to pull off, how'd the Blackmailer idea be? blackmailer would be good, but every night is a bit broken, maybe odd nights only? especially considering the main point of this is the nomming during the night and the fact that people can be vote immune |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Dec 19, 2022 18:49:52 GMT
As long as A dies, I don't think Mafia would want to be A... For the kill being too hard to pull off, how'd the Blackmailer idea be? blackmailer would be good, but every night is a bit broken, maybe odd nights only? especially considering the main point of this is the nomming during the night and the fact that people can be vote immune I mean... Blackmail has the risk of Mafia killing self if they're not immune. It's always worse than a normal nightkill. It'd not be as comparable to killless themes like Nommy or near-killless ones like mod.exe tho |
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Post by iavh on Dec 19, 2022 18:59:35 GMT
interesting theme, do we have setups for this and what is the minimum player count for this theme
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Post by iavh on Dec 19, 2022 19:02:50 GMT
personally i dont think vanilla setups would be bal, its more of a game of probability
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Dec 20, 2022 18:58:07 GMT
blackmailer would be good, but every night is a bit broken, maybe odd nights only? especially considering the main point of this is the nomming during the night and the fact that people can be vote immune I mean... Blackmail has the risk of Mafia killing self if they're not immune. It's always worse than a normal nightkill. It'd not be as comparable to killless themes like Nommy or near-killless ones like mod.exe tho if ur gonna add blackmailer maf should probably be immune but bmailer should be every other night i think bmailer self killing maf is kinda too townsided at that point due to maf being able to accidentally suicide, and the blackmailer kill is also hard for mafia to get who they want dead its still better than the guess because the chances on guess are just too much to actually get it off, ig maf could always idle a bmail if they needed to |
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Post by mymemoryisbad on Dec 20, 2022 19:02:47 GMT
personally i dont think vanilla setups would be bal, its more of a game of probability the only actual 'probability' per say is the guess/kill, its definitely going to be inconsistent but the main point of this theme is the night noms still takes skill on mafs part to be able to guess the noms, and if they are trying to fully utilize the guess/kill it definitely puts a nice little spin on thinking about ones target i will say however one problem i feel it creates is that scum cant do anything about wide trs, as nobody is going to nom them... then again its a nilla theme so people can actually be tred and live and have fun just reading |
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Post by Snaq ◢ ◤ on Dec 21, 2022 8:53:28 GMT
personally i dont think vanilla setups would be bal, its more of a game of probability the only actual 'probability' per say is the guess/kill, its definitely going to be inconsistent but the main point of this theme is the night noms still takes skill on mafs part to be able to guess the noms, and if they are trying to fully utilize the guess/kill it definitely puts a nice little spin on thinking about ones target i will say however one problem i feel it creates is that scum cant do anything about wide trs, as nobody is going to nom them... then again its a nilla theme so people can actually be tred and live and have fun just reading Re: blackmailer, I think we should playtest it. I see what you're saying but I'm unsure how it would pan out. As you say, the blackmail is more townsided than a normal kill (even with Mafia immunity), because you cannot just kill a wide TR. About the wide TR, I don't think that's too horrible... there's no clears ever so well-played scum could become the TR themselves. Also, they can nom someone themselves. Still, no one is gonna vote them and you can't NK em... but it might be kinda nice that you actually need to push them in a way! |
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