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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 16:29:13 GMT
ftr Clouds did not cause me to vote you in my eyes rn you / tbz have decent odds of flipping aorn Then can you switch your vote to the other one? Vote TBZok my secret thoughts on tbz were that they are cop ngl this is the only role it is acceptable for them to play this way imo unvote This was not the impetus for me unvote btw, it was seeing ed voted tbz Oh lmao Unovte qtball, Vote: EdjLet's discourse ig Okay so let's say you vote me and I flip scum: what next? Who are my partners? You think I'm scum with STP, Abby, Fame? Or let's say that it's a bus, who are you going to push next? You're one of the people voting me and I still believe that there's at least a scum within you Prod and Clouds. Fuckin hell if it's all three. Now, you vote me and I'm town: Good job, you win! It took two days to achieve nothing and you're back at square one. Yeah I've been trying my best to scumread alongside defending myself but due to my timing it's basically just been me defending myself which is gonna come off as scummy. But I'm not scum, I'm just not always around, especially on weekends. Either way whatever, despite IRL stuff I'm still actively trying to make reads and I don't think there should be any reality where TBZ gets to lurk around like this. They are not cop. They would have confirmed Fame as scum by now if they were. So how am I a better slot? I hate that we can't iso but there's 100% info that can be found from TBZ once he flips. Plus Pass still had some pretty big posts back in the day. I actually do like CA's entrance so I'm leaning less toward that vote but Penguin still remains unsolved, and his sub hasn't done anything either. I'm really just wondering why I need to fight for two days of this when it's not even the correct choice. There's barely any variety in these votes and people don't seem to understand that. it's. a. bad. thing. This is kind of reminding me of classic where on the way out Clouds/I have a lot of dispute to seem unpartnered I feel like there's too much 'Heyy no I'm NOT with Edjean' here from Fen that screams more knowledge than he's letting on
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 16:31:24 GMT
I'm literally just getting the vibe this scumteam was super excited to play as a throuple and they're doing something similar to me in Tropicana where I really hone in on that 'deepwolf' sentiment because it gets at something true
And the important thing for me in all of this is that Prod is always kind of on the periphery of this stuff and always remains somewhere in limbo for anyone who isn't Fen
Like, Ed has Fenrir in his 'towncore' here but the dispute seems a bit mismatched tone wise
He thinks there's potentially 3 in Fen/Clouds/Prod - we know this isn't possible because he flipped & so did Clouds, so why is Fen ever in his top town reads? lmao
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 16:33:27 GMT
if youre talking about ppl avoiding me idt thats true though? like Fame Clouds and Fenrir have very definitely directly interacted with me and cast reads into my slot as well No sorry it was a typo I was talking about the TBZ slot. I meant you in the second sentence but TBZ in the 1st/3rd Backpedalling prob Okay so let's say you vote me and I flip scum: what next? Who are my partners? You think I'm scum with STP, Abby, Fame? Or let's say that it's a bus, who are you going to push next? You're one of the people voting me and I still believe that there's at least a scum within you Prod and Clouds. Fuckin hell if it's all three. Now, you vote me and I'm town: Good job, you win! It took two days to achieve nothing and you're back at square one. Yeah I've been trying my best to scumread alongside defending myself but due to my timing it's basically just been me defending myself which is gonna come off as scummy. But I'm not scum, I'm just not always around, especially on weekends. Either way whatever, despite IRL stuff I'm still actively trying to make reads and I don't think there should be any reality where TBZ gets to lurk around like this. They are not cop. They would have confirmed Fame as scum by now if they were. So how am I a better slot? I hate that we can't iso but there's 100% info that can be found from TBZ once he flips. Plus Pass still had some pretty big posts back in the day. I actually do like CA's entrance so I'm leaning less toward that vote but Penguin still remains unsolved, and his sub hasn't done anything either. I'm really just wondering why I need to fight for two days of this when it's not even the correct choice. There's barely any variety in these votes and people don't seem to understand that. it's. a. bad. thing. I've reiterated a couple of times at this point where I'd probably look. To be totally blunt, I'm too tired at this point to look deep into partners with ten minutes left and this many people around, but I lean towards thinking it still makes more sense for a partner to be either inactive or trying to save you as opposed to bussing with the cop still alive.
Even voting you right now is just because one person in my PoE claimed doc and the other got subbed, so if you think there's a stronger case for someone like tbz, lay it on me, but I haven't ruled out the world where it's both of you and there's more to read off of if you flip compared to him (though I'll concede we're not likely to get much from him at this point).
There's definitely room for you to be town and the "throwing hands up in the air and shrugvote" feel isn't something I like, but I'd need a clear alternative I feel strongly about at this point and there's none I've seen yet. My tbz vote was actually to see if you or anyone else would follow on it, there's probably things to be read into the deluge of people suddenly doing things now, but it's like...there's five minutes left, so do you have crazy bombshell propositions?
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 16:34:13 GMT
Like even rn I'm tempted to vote someone just for the science of it but it's at 3 minutes Maybe I should've done that sooner idk, feels like the whole thread was playing a game of chicken Fenrir I think you and I need to talk more. Let's do it tomorrow.
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 16:34:37 GMT
Yeah just seems mega fake bro
Fen is always the vote & he can save his breath tomorrow
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 16:36:28 GMT
There's really just too many moments where I'm rereading and thinking, 'Wow, what an oddly convenient thing to say at this point?' or 'That's really quite on the nose'
Makes it feel like it's coming off the back end of a scum chat conversation or planning
Driving certain narratives home when I don't think we were even at a point to be considering whether Ed was being bussed or something
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 16:46:22 GMT
And more importantly, I just think Fen's posts are drenched in narrative in a way I think would be super important for them at this point
Very much so giving capitalising on a bad situation / making the most out of it
And I also think the people Clouds/Fen are really intent on townreading (being Prod and I) are like, super convenient for pocket opportunities
I'm pretty sure I'm just repeating stuff here & doing the most, but wanted to re-eval to be 100% sure of this
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Post by Prodigu on Jan 25, 2024 16:47:30 GMT
wait wait hold it a) why can't edj & tbz be together? b) there's three mafia... why are you looking at this from the lens of only trying to solve two mafia? Don't think he brings attention to Ed/TBZ partnering here if TBZ is scum Not only this but the random 180 on Tbz at start of day yesterday is definitely Clouds attempting to setup a misvote into him, like were just thinking Clouds: Shades Tbz the entire time and keeps him open as a vote Edjean: Also keeps Tbz open as a vote [wants to shift to either Tbz/Prod at Eod Fenrir: Also votes…. Tbz…….. The thing is that Clouds and Edjean know perfectly well that Tbz wont fight it and there also likely wont be any like pushback to the vote so its super easy to just keep open Clouds: Randomly does a 180 on Tbz right at the start b/c he realizes theres a high chance of him being copped and / or realizing who the Cop is, and makes a “legacy” post randomly to set us up into misvoting Tbz b/c he makes a point to get this post in before hed be in a “anti-spew / spew point” before a redcheck is produced on him. Any posts of his we’d be looking at for partnership in his eyes would be anytime before a red check is produced… namely his Legacy post Like if were wrong on Fenrir im ok with Psuedo confirming Tbz as town here too somewhat theres just so much from Clouds / Edjean making a point to shade him constantly that idt its him
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 16:51:19 GMT
If game doesn't end after Fen -> TBZ I'm just completely lost tbh & whoever the third is can take it without me being disappointed because I think
Prod/CA's play yesterday was just really impressive if they're red in that position & if Wiiu wins this off of being hardcore AFK then I'll happily put that down to 'shouldn't have been here in the first place'
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 16:52:17 GMT
Can't imagine Prod decides to turn on the only person 1000% townreading him at this stage of the game either when it's super losable still in 1v6-1v7
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Post by commanderawesome on Jan 25, 2024 18:01:12 GMT
Damn so nighttalk is just completely chill huh
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Post by commanderawesome on Jan 25, 2024 18:01:59 GMT
Good news prod: your evil and malicious oc liking posts at night was actually completely legal
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Post by Prodigu on Jan 25, 2024 18:06:45 GMT
Damn so nighttalk is just completely chill huh Usually its not but eh
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Post by Prodigu on Jan 25, 2024 18:07:10 GMT
Good news prod: your evil and malicious oc liking posts at night was actually completely legal Kek dont look at all the posts me and Fame have liked in the past few hours from each other
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Post by Prodigu on Jan 25, 2024 18:08:50 GMT
Also like im lowkey jealous of Clouds getting to roll scum with Fenrir (im assuming its just Fenrir atp) Just cuz like id also be rly excited to play with Clouds or Fenrir or Fame / most ppl at some point
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Post by Prodigu on Jan 25, 2024 18:12:17 GMT
And fwiw im ok with just hammering at day start, i like dont realistically see any other arguments being made for a separate vote at this point and i think me and Fame have just hammered literally everything out at this point and theres just not much more to say
I know that some others will prob have reservations about it still but from the looks of it realistically theres not much more to say rn / idk 🤷♂️ what else to say
Just think me and Fame are monumentally correct atp
Obviously im also fine with plur hitting so others can give any last thoughts that they want
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Post by commanderawesome on Jan 25, 2024 19:59:08 GMT
yeah just nuke fen we dont even lose anything if theyre town cause we get to talk for the next 120 straight hours before the following deadline anyways
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Post by commanderawesome on Jan 25, 2024 20:01:27 GMT
anyways appreciate the big ass posts reading further into fen being but fen still not showing up is in my mind enough of a reason for us to not bother with the whole playing the game thing until they flip
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 20:48:53 GMT
Yeah Fen being AFK here is telling as it is, but worth going over and re-evaluating in the mean time
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 20:49:22 GMT
When I was rereading I literally couldn't piece together what was happening in the game from any other perspective than s!Fen so
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 20:50:10 GMT
Also like im lowkey jealous of Clouds getting to roll scum with Fenrir (im assuming its just Fenrir atp) Just cuz like id also be rly excited to play with Clouds or Fenrir or Fame / most ppl at some point Hopefully we get to roll scum together at some point smh This would be the second time Clouds/Fen rolled the same scumteam
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Post by Prodigu on Jan 25, 2024 20:57:37 GMT
Also like im lowkey jealous of Clouds getting to roll scum with Fenrir (im assuming its just Fenrir atp) Just cuz like id also be rly excited to play with Clouds or Fenrir or Fame / most ppl at some point Hopefully we get to roll scum together at some point smh This would be the second time Clouds/Fen rolled the same scumteam the 4 of us together would be a goated scum team ngl
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Post by Fame on Jan 25, 2024 20:57:48 GMT
Kinda sucks for Clouds (and probs Fen) tbh
I think this game was really fucking winnable for scum if this is actually just GG after Fen flip
I don't think I arrive at s!Clouds or s!Fen anytime soon without the redcheck, they played really well, & was pretty clear the scumteam was fairly cohesive throughout those days / had some sort of plan
Anyway, can we outright ban the Cop role on forums? Would anybody be mad at that? I think not
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Post by Prodigu on Jan 25, 2024 21:00:38 GMT
Kinda sucks for Clouds (and probs Fen) tbh I think this game was really fucking winnable for scum if this is actually just GG after Fen flip I don't think I arrive at s!Clouds or s!Fen anytime soon without the redcheck, they played really well, & was pretty clear the scumteam was fairly cohesive throughout those days / had some sort of plan Anyway, can we outright ban the Cop role on forums? Would anybody be mad at that? I think not I feel like youve had a bad experience with the cop role….. from somewhere dunno where tho…..
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Post by Prodigu on Jan 25, 2024 21:00:55 GMT
Should we get rid of WW too while were at it?
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