Post by Hobbes2 on Jan 25, 2016 22:45:58 GMT
Greater Idea is a popular setup in our room, and it's one that's rather unique in terms of a setup. The idea of picking a role and discarding another, with the discard being publicly known is really interesting.
However, this raises a question; what exactly can you do with the discard list?
You can analyze it of course, and it tells what the roles that people aren't. The question I have is this: Just how much more does the discard list tell you?
Is there really such a thing as a "scummy discard?" Sure, you can look at something like Mafia One-Shot Dayvig, and say the only reason they'd discard such a powerful role is if they had an even more powerful role! The problem here is that this isn't always the case. People pick town roles over great mafia roles all the time, either because they hate scum in GI (see: me), or because the town role is arguably just as good.
I think people overrate a few decisions. Just how much better is a doc than a jailkeeper? Just how much better is doc than a parrot? There are perfectly valid reasons for picking a few roles over other ones, so just because someone discarded doctor and claimed parrot or something doesn't mean they are automatically scum. After all; the utility one role provides over the other isn't a direct upgrade; they're different entirely. It's hard to compare them. There are games in which parrot is actually better than doc.
I agree that discards are a great way to start the discussion, but they shouldn't be a catch all for why some person is scum. Think about it next time before you insta-lynch someone for discarding Alien Psychotrooper.
NOTE - This isn't really a guide or anything, I just want to kickstart some discussion.
However, this raises a question; what exactly can you do with the discard list?
You can analyze it of course, and it tells what the roles that people aren't. The question I have is this: Just how much more does the discard list tell you?
Is there really such a thing as a "scummy discard?" Sure, you can look at something like Mafia One-Shot Dayvig, and say the only reason they'd discard such a powerful role is if they had an even more powerful role! The problem here is that this isn't always the case. People pick town roles over great mafia roles all the time, either because they hate scum in GI (see: me), or because the town role is arguably just as good.
I think people overrate a few decisions. Just how much better is a doc than a jailkeeper? Just how much better is doc than a parrot? There are perfectly valid reasons for picking a few roles over other ones, so just because someone discarded doctor and claimed parrot or something doesn't mean they are automatically scum. After all; the utility one role provides over the other isn't a direct upgrade; they're different entirely. It's hard to compare them. There are games in which parrot is actually better than doc.
I agree that discards are a great way to start the discussion, but they shouldn't be a catch all for why some person is scum. Think about it next time before you insta-lynch someone for discarding Alien Psychotrooper.
NOTE - This isn't really a guide or anything, I just want to kickstart some discussion.
