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Post by MechaMew2 on Jul 30, 2018 15:14:22 GMT
I'm a bit late, so I'll just start with a readlist.
1) Fenrir - Scumlean Something about his townread on Tbowl feels really off to me. "Currently giving Thunder a soft townlean based on his differentiating between the main scumteam and the Traitor in his reads." First off, how does differentiating goon vs. traitor signify town? Why would scum be less likely to do this? I don't follow this line of logic. I also strongly agree with what WholeLottaGangShit said very recently, regarding finding the traitor. It's near impossible because I think Mafia most likely recruited the traitor, and even if they didn't, there is only one traitor who would act just like a Townie since they don't know their partners.
2) og villain - neutral/town Nothing about him is giving me any scum vibes. He seems pretty relaxed. I'd like to see him under pressure just to see how reacts, but there's really no need to do so as of right now.
3) ForgotToFlush - neutral He's a very cunning player, so I'm refraining from townleaning him this early even though his actions seem town. I'd like to see him go CAPS mode.
4) XnadrojX - townlean Although I don't really agree with his reads, he has solid reasoning and it seems like his wolfhunting is coming from a genuine perspective.
5) Dais ex Eltnum - scumlean I fully do not understand his posts. He calls out OMGUS, but then lynches someone unrelated with no further explanation. I'm going to keep my eyes on him, as he is playing very differently than what I've seen.
6) Tbowl - no idea Call me a bad player, but this one's a tossup for me. I'd rather not give myself a headache trying to figure out what he's doing.
7) Toni XY - null Blank
8) schiavetto - scum He doesn't have too many posts, although I'm not one to talk. The way he leaps to Tbowl`s defense worries me that they might be either a scumteam or schiavetto is scum attempting to pocket Tbowl or gain towncred when town!Tbowl flips. He provides zero reasoning as to he might possibly townread Tbowl and instead just criticizes WholeLottaGangShit`s read. It could possibly be a chainsaw, but that might be a reach.
9) WholeLottaGangShit - neutral/town Nothing really AI out of him yet, but I'm liking his contributions, particularly the comment about traitor recruitment.
10) MechaMew2 - me If I say anything here, people will think I'm softting Traitor or whatnot, but even just saying this is enough for someone to create a case.
11) motogp - neutral Not enough information here. He sounds a little defensive, but he was also like that in a past game where he was town.
12)bluegummybear7 - town Ignoring the strange capitalization, I think he's town because he's drawing attention to himself by saying something along the lines of he plays how he wants and that he might come off as scummy. This is also a bit of a gutread, but his tone comes off as genuine.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 30, 2018 15:19:54 GMT
Where on earth did I say I townread TBZ
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Post by MechaMew2 on Jul 30, 2018 15:24:18 GMT
For now, I'm operating under the assumption that Mafia recruited their Traitor and did nothing else, because that's what I would do and what I think most players would also do. Bulletproof is very situational and is only useful if there is Vigilante. Similar logic applies to JOAT which is only useful if town has a specific role. Daytalk doesn't seem like it would be worth a town power role. If none of the previous boosts are selected, then Role Cop seems like a waste because it gives town a power role in exchange for the ability to search for only 2 roles. That's what I think.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 30, 2018 15:24:28 GMT
Like, a much more legitimate criticism would've been my lynch on moto, but instead you went on for a paragraph about a read that I literally never once stated. If I'm being honest, it sounds like you're just going w/ Vox Pop on that one.
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Post by MechaMew2 on Jul 30, 2018 15:28:16 GMT
Where on earth did I say I townread TBZ Where on earth did I say you said you townread TBZ? I said you were defending him by criticizing WholeLottaGangShit`s accusations, and I was wondering if you townread Tbowl or not since you provided nothing. Now that you're here though, could you please clarify your stance?
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Post by MechaMew2 on Jul 30, 2018 15:31:25 GMT
Like, a much more legitimate criticism would've been my lynch on moto, but instead you went on for a paragraph about a read that I literally never once stated. If I'm being honest, it sounds like you're just going w/ Vox Pop on that one. I assumed your lynch on motogp was RVS, which is why I don't think there's anything to say about it. Maybe your image meant something and if it did it went way over my head.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 30, 2018 16:06:19 GMT
Okay, I'll break it down nice and slow for you 8) schiavetto - scum He doesn't have too many posts, although I'm not one to talk. The way he leaps to Tbowl`s defense worries me that they might be either a scumteam or schiavetto is scum attempting to pocket Tbowl or gain towncred when town!Tbowl flips. He provides zero reasoning as to he might possibly townread Tbowl and instead just criticizes WholeLottaGangShit`s read. It could possibly be a chainsaw, but that might be a reach. 1) The only was TBZ flipping town gives me towncred is if I've professed to having already read him as town - which is not the case. 2) I'm going to say right off the bat that I acknowledge you qualified this with a "possibly", but leggimi bene: there is no reason for me or anyone in this game to post reasoning for a read they do not possess. The whole premise of your comment (which is that rather than giving rationale for a supposed read on TBZ, I criticized WholeLottaGangShit's read) operates on the assumption that WLGS's post was an alternative to explaining a read I don't have. So no, you don't outright use the words "Schiavetto townreads TBZ", but its implicit in your argument, which is itself nothing more than conjecture.
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 30, 2018 16:13:51 GMT
My stance on TBZ is that he has an interesting dynamic with Fenny. I'm keeping an eye on it, but the closest thing I have to a townlock right now is og villain - he's making informed choices but I don't see him as being terribly attached to any of his reads, which at this point in the game, I would see as a red flag.
I guess I'll also take this time to add that "leaping to someone's defense", as you so colorfully put it, is a v different thing from fact-checking - and speaking as someone who was also AWOL for a chunk of the day, I'd've hoped you'd be a lot more preoccupied with the latter.
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Post by qtball on Jul 30, 2018 16:15:12 GMT
After seeing OM's post I'm gonna go ahead and town lock him too (yes it seems like an awful lot of townlocks but hear me out).
OM (like BGB) had no reason to unlynch me, and he definitely seems to have a lighter and different motive compared to last game (forum fish), hell he even wants to exact his revenge on someone, that is good town in my books ^_*
Xnad on the other hand, unlynched only after my wagon defused. I'm not sure if that's my tunnel bias, but that's not doing him any favors lol
I lowkey forgot that scum could recruit traitor, but that doesn't change the fact that the traitor could still be solo. Be watching for interactions everyone
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Post by qtball on Jul 30, 2018 16:17:26 GMT
bgb being the scummy boi he is, but this totally hits me as BGB play, being hedgy af early, hopefully he just picks up early game. TBZ being a lot more aggressive with his reads is what I like to see, this strikes me as Town!TBZ and not the wimpy shit he pulled last game.\ Otherwise the posts are mostly just filler BS, or the same people posting over and over, not much content to work with. Lynch SchiavettoThis, Sceptorus and motogp slot pings me the hardest (+BGB on the side but he gets a pass for now), Sceptorus and motogp for the... lack of sense, but Schiavetto is my biggest SR rn mainly for the way he's been playing, popping in to vote a sus person with absolutely no content at all (I don't count his post because it's literally just fluff). Will elaborate more if needed but I think it's pretty clear ^mainly as a result of this quote, motogp and Sceptorus are both WAY scummier than Schiavetto, so for this fact I'm guessing that Xnad flips scum with one of moto / Sceptorus
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Post by bluegummybear on Jul 30, 2018 17:58:52 GMT
Don't really see what moto has that's lynch-worthy either considering he only has the Sceptorus vote. Would rather go one of bgb/Scept right now. So you in tour eyes, someone who is just saying thing that you may think is fairly obvious is very much lynch worthy? If so Why is that exactly, could you elaborate more
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Post by bluegummybear on Jul 30, 2018 18:03:21 GMT
LYNCH MECHAMEW2REVENGE AT LONG LAST AFTER SPIDERZ BETRAYED ME SO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA This concerns me
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Post by motogp on Jul 30, 2018 18:06:52 GMT
So about this traitor slot, i feel like the best mafia pr is to hire the traitor and them not hiring is rare so my money is on the fact that mafia have hired the traitor. If they didnt, they probably wouldnt have chosen other prs because towm gets much stronger if they did. So yeah, i think the traitor has been recruited 80%. Convince me otherwise. And reading someone as traitor is a fuckin god-read and too decidueye. I seriously do not know how he made that read. there is no reason to speculate until something is proven seems like filler to me
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Post by motogp on Jul 30, 2018 18:11:49 GMT
yes that might sound idiotic but like most of his posts are that way
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Post by bluegummybear on Jul 30, 2018 18:13:52 GMT
So about this traitor slot, i feel like the best mafia pr is to hire the traitor and them not hiring is rare so my money is on the fact that mafia have hired the traitor. If they didnt, they probably wouldnt have chosen other prs because towm gets much stronger if they did. So yeah, i think the traitor has been recruited 80%. Convince me otherwise. And reading someone as traitor is a fuckin god-read and too decidueye. I seriously do not know how he made that read. This post... Well Is it really the time to worry about the traitor day 1 then a actually mafia goon who could be a PR, which i doubt. Also you are just throwing around possibility's. To support your opinion on the traitor. Also what the point in Conniving you that traitor is solo?
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Post by bluegummybear on Jul 30, 2018 18:14:30 GMT
So about this traitor slot, i feel like the best mafia pr is to hire the traitor and them not hiring is rare so my money is on the fact that mafia have hired the traitor. If they didnt, they probably wouldnt have chosen other prs because towm gets much stronger if they did. So yeah, i think the traitor has been recruited 80%. Convince me otherwise. And reading someone as traitor is a fuckin god-read and too decidueye. I seriously do not know how he made that read. there is no reason to speculate until something is proven seems like filler to mehe seemed to filler more at the end imo but agreed
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Post by bluegummybear on Jul 30, 2018 18:24:13 GMT
bgb being the scummy boi he is, but this totally hits me as BGB play, being hedgy af early, hopefully he just picks up early game. TBZ being a lot more aggressive with his reads is what I like to see, this strikes me as Town!TBZ and not the wimpy shit he pulled last game.\ Otherwise the posts are mostly just filler BS, or the same people posting over and over, not much content to work with. Lynch SchiavettoThis, Sceptorus and motogp slot pings me the hardest (+BGB on the side but he gets a pass for now), Sceptorus and motogp for the... lack of sense, but Schiavetto is my biggest SR rn mainly for the way he's been playing, popping in to vote a sus person with absolutely no content at all (I don't count his post because it's literally just fluff). Will elaborate more if needed but I think it's pretty clear So you 2 think my post is rather scummy? or was it the post I use physics to read? I Must really be bad at "seeming town" if my first 3 posts got my a scum check-mark. could you tell me what I did was scummy? was it because I said something pretty obvious? Is stating something obvious in order to try to help town? Here what I think is wrong with the scumminess of the post. If it was Later in the game I could understand how it was scummy, But I stated early game for a reason especially before we go into anything deep. So I don't see how it can be scummy or scummy enough to deserve a lynch
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Post by Schrodinger on Jul 30, 2018 18:28:55 GMT
I like saying convince me otherwise. Makes me feel like a cool kid.
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Post by qtball on Jul 30, 2018 18:42:39 GMT
bgb being the scummy boi he is, but this totally hits me as BGB play, being hedgy af early, hopefully he just picks up early game. TBZ being a lot more aggressive with his reads is what I like to see, this strikes me as Town!TBZ and not the wimpy shit he pulled last game.\ Otherwise the posts are mostly just filler BS, or the same people posting over and over, not much content to work with. Lynch SchiavettoThis, Sceptorus and motogp slot pings me the hardest (+BGB on the side but he gets a pass for now), Sceptorus and motogp for the... lack of sense, but Schiavetto is my biggest SR rn mainly for the way he's been playing, popping in to vote a sus person with absolutely no content at all (I don't count his post because it's literally just fluff). Will elaborate more if needed but I think it's pretty clear well ok my play style is scummy, because i play how the fuck i want to play. i Dont put on no trying to be town Act, Just here to have Fun. This goes anyone else who think im scummy and who ever mindset is scummy = scum. this post is townie in general. BGB is likely town, and standing by the fact that if he's scum he's a solo traitor
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Post by qtball on Jul 30, 2018 18:44:29 GMT
Schrodinger Lowkey you can't call me out for giving a bunch of reads when you literally haven't given a single read yet Don't @ me
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Post by Dasocks~ on Jul 30, 2018 19:42:52 GMT
tfw you try to pull a cheeky prod on moto but they completely ignore it and you come out with litte to read them on
unlynch motogp, but this slot is weird.
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Post by Dasocks~ on Jul 30, 2018 19:49:04 GMT
LYNCH MECHAMEW2REVENGE AT LONG LAST AFTER SPIDERZ BETRAYED ME SO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA This concerns me the fact you highlight this concerns me
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 30, 2018 19:55:02 GMT
Unlynch moto. Lynch WholeLottaGangShit.
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Post by Dasocks~ on Jul 30, 2018 19:56:24 GMT
bgb being the scummy boi he is, but this totally hits me as BGB play, being hedgy af early, hopefully he just picks up early game. TBZ being a lot more aggressive with his reads is what I like to see, this strikes me as Town!TBZ and not the wimpy shit he pulled last game.\ Otherwise the posts are mostly just filler BS, or the same people posting over and over, not much content to work with. Lynch SchiavettoThis, Sceptorus and motogp slot pings me the hardest (+BGB on the side but he gets a pass for now), Sceptorus and motogp for the... lack of sense, but Schiavetto is my biggest SR rn mainly for the way he's been playing, popping in to vote a sus person with absolutely no content at all (I don't count his post because it's literally just fluff). Will elaborate more if needed but I think it's pretty clear well ok my play style is scummy, because i play how the fuck i want to play. i Dont put on no trying to be town Act, Just here to have Fun. This goes anyone else who think im scummy and who ever mindset is scummy = scum. Because scummy does in fact mean scum, more often than not. That’s... kinda the basis of scumhunting. Also... having ‘Fun’ in mafia? You must be insane.
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Post by Dasocks~ on Jul 30, 2018 19:57:18 GMT
Unlynch moto. Lynch WholeLottaGangShit. so uh... you going to explain that, buddy?
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