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Post by bluegummybear on Jul 30, 2018 20:01:28 GMT
Well i mean weak reasoning like "oh he scummy" and just instantly assume they are scum. Though im mot sure hows the ideology is handled here
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Post by Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ on Jul 30, 2018 20:01:37 GMT
Flex your noggin. Draw some inferences.
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Post by Schrodinger on Jul 30, 2018 20:03:30 GMT
Lmao this boi bgb sayin being scummy is not scum bro are you high?
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Post by bluegummybear on Jul 30, 2018 20:05:58 GMT
Well do scummy people always flip scum?
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Post by Schrodinger on Jul 30, 2018 20:06:42 GMT
So do we not pursue people who are scummy?
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Post by qtball on Jul 30, 2018 20:07:10 GMT
unlynch XnadrojX lynch Sceptorus
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Post by qtball on Jul 30, 2018 20:07:49 GMT
Lmao this boi bgb sayin being scummy is not scum bro are you high? this one comment pings me the wrong way especially after bgb made the original comment ages ago. Seems like you're just hopping on Dasocks pressure wagon
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Post by bluegummybear on Jul 30, 2018 20:08:50 GMT
not if it lack valid reasons and not some statement
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Post by Schrodinger on Jul 30, 2018 20:08:50 GMT
I never noticed that lmao what? When did he say that btw?
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Post by qtball on Jul 30, 2018 20:09:18 GMT
I never noticed that lmao what? When did he say that btw? ...
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Post by bluegummybear on Jul 30, 2018 20:09:38 GMT
But this convo is over
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Post by qtball on Jul 30, 2018 20:10:48 GMT
I think at this point Sceptorus slot is trolling aka NAI them getting lynched is beneficial but I prefer other lynches first (sadly)
unlynch lynch XnadrojX
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Post by Schrodinger on Jul 30, 2018 20:11:11 GMT
you always pursue a scummy guy, end of story. What do you mean by a valid tatement and shit? There is a valid statement because of which they are scummy lol
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 30, 2018 20:41:10 GMT
I just got home let me sleep you hecks
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 30, 2018 20:54:26 GMT
Not fond of Sceptorus's vote on Thunder (how DARE Thunder have multiple townreads), but I'm not sure if it's a misguided vote or a scum vote. Also never answered by question about their early shift onto Xnad, 'twasn't rhetorical Schrodinger . Also I liked how Sceptorus pointed out what TBZ did with ignoring bgb. so unlynch Sceptorus motogp are you sure you're referring to Sceotprus and not Schiavetto? Follow-up regardless: what is it about this you like? Definitely agree with OM that the current Thunder case feels super reachy and has little gamesolving effort behind it. "Thunder called a lot of people town and didn't acknowledge Xnad's meta, so he's scum!" I don't see much effort to figure out Thunder's alignment or motivation.
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Post by Crespo on Jul 30, 2018 21:09:20 GMT
You guys post so much xxx Haven't read through but will sometime today or tomorrow. For now I lynch the poisoned bear lynch bgb
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 30, 2018 21:12:50 GMT
You're stuck with him allllllllllllllllll this game buddy Not if he dies n1 Bgb's response to my read on them actually feels townier than when I normally interact with bgb (I'm thinking especially of the PSAnon game we played where he was super reactionary towards anyone who scumread him). His post at the end of page 6 is reactionary, but not in the way it was in the PSAnon game where he was simultaneously trying to appease those who scumread him by going through the motions of giving a readlist and answering questions while also pushing Xnad super hard in an effort to get the lynch off of him. Bomb Moss talk to me some about your Thunder read; I'm interested in the comparison to his past games since I can't recall him not lurking/flaking. Agree with you that FtF's kind of off-meta but I don't find anything about him especially scummy currently (aside from the thing you mentioned about him not doing very much so far, so I guess I'm mindmelding with you there?). Also fightmeirl I'm working on my overexplaining (as much as my last paragraph implies the opposite). So about this traitor slot, i feel like the best mafia pr is to hire the traitor and them not hiring is rare so my money is on the fact that mafia have hired the traitor. If they didnt, they probably wouldnt have chosen other prs because towm gets much stronger if they did. So yeah, i think the traitor has been recruited 80%. Convince me otherwise. And reading someone as traitor is a fuckin god-read and too decidueye. I seriously do not know how he made that read. Reading someone as Traitor isn't a reach. Assuming that scum recruited the Traitor is and you don't seem to be using this information for anything other than to try and debunk potential reads based on who is/isn't a Traitor. This applies to MechaMew2 as well-the fact that you would have recruited the Traitor is irrelevant if you're town, because not everyone is going to play the same way you are. Branching off of that MechaMew2, yes, scum is less likely to differentiate between who they think is the Traitor vs. the main team because they're more likely to try going after standard scumtells. The Traitor also does know their partners if they aren't recruited (see the link). I've got some other thoughts on the rest of your readlist; they are incoming in another post. Unvote: bluegummybear7 Vote: Sceptorus
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Post by OM~! on Jul 30, 2018 21:15:48 GMT
I'm a bit late, so I'll just start with a readlist. 1) Fenrir - Scumlean Something about his townread on Tbowl feels really off to me. "Currently giving Thunder a soft townlean based on his differentiating between the main scumteam and the Traitor in his reads." First off, how does differentiating goon vs. traitor signify town? Why would scum be less likely to do this? I don't follow this line of logic. I also strongly agree with what WholeLottaGangShit said very recently, regarding finding the traitor. It's near impossible because I think Mafia most likely recruited the traitor, and even if they didn't, there is only one traitor who would act just like a Townie since they don't know their partners. 2) og villain - neutral/town Nothing about him is giving me any scum vibes. He seems pretty relaxed. I'd like to see him under pressure just to see how reacts, but there's really no need to do so as of right now. 3) ForgotToFlush - neutral He's a very cunning player, so I'm refraining from townleaning him this early even though his actions seem town. I'd like to see him go CAPS mode. 4) XnadrojX - townlean Although I don't really agree with his reads, he has solid reasoning and it seems like his wolfhunting is coming from a genuine perspective. 5) Dais ex Eltnum - scumlean I fully do not understand his posts. He calls out OMGUS, but then lynches someone unrelated with no further explanation. I'm going to keep my eyes on him, as he is playing very differently than what I've seen. 6) Tbowl - no idea Call me a bad player, but this one's a tossup for me. I'd rather not give myself a headache trying to figure out what he's doing. 7) Toni XY - null Blank 8) schiavetto - scum He doesn't have too many posts, although I'm not one to talk. The way he leaps to Tbowl`s defense worries me that they might be either a scumteam or schiavetto is scum attempting to pocket Tbowl or gain towncred when town!Tbowl flips. He provides zero reasoning as to he might possibly townread Tbowl and instead just criticizes WholeLottaGangShit`s read. It could possibly be a chainsaw, but that might be a reach. 9) WholeLottaGangShit - neutral/town Nothing really AI out of him yet, but I'm liking his contributions, particularly the comment about traitor recruitment. 10) MechaMew2 - me If I say anything here, people will think I'm softting Traitor or whatnot, but even just saying this is enough for someone to create a case. 11) motogp - neutral Not enough information here. He sounds a little defensive, but he was also like that in a past game where he was town. 12)bluegummybear7 - town Ignoring the strange capitalization, I think he's town because he's drawing attention to himself by saying something along the lines of he plays how he wants and that he might come off as scummy. This is also a bit of a gutread, but his tone comes off as genuine. This is off-putting, and I can't place it. I don't like how he came in and posted a readlist first of a bunch of things that he wants to see happening but doesn't act on it, (such as wanting me under pressure, but doesn't place it; his two srs on fenrir and schiavetto and not backing them up with a lynch or anything, etc.)
For now, I'm sticking to my lynch on mm2 slot.
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Post by motogp on Jul 30, 2018 21:16:43 GMT
Not fond of Sceptorus's vote on Thunder (how DARE Thunder have multiple townreads), but I'm not sure if it's a misguided vote or a scum vote. Also never answered by question about their early shift onto Xnad, 'twasn't rhetorical Schrodinger . Also I liked how Sceptorus pointed out what TBZ did with ignoring bgb. so unlynch Sceptorus motogp are you sure you're referring to Sceotprus and not Schiavetto? Follow-up regardless: what is it about this you like? Definitely agree with OM that the current Thunder case feels super reachy and has little gamesolving effort behind it. "Thunder called a lot of people town and didn't acknowledge Xnad's meta, so he's scum!" I don't see much effort to figure out Thunder's alignment or motivation. I am talking about the beginning of page 6. I like it because it quite seemed they had moved from fillering which is why I lynched them in the first place,but I am yet to read the posts they made in this page.
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Post by motogp on Jul 30, 2018 21:18:34 GMT
Lmao this boi bgb sayin being scummy is not scum bro are you high? this one comment pings me the wrong way especially after bgb made the original comment ages ago. Seems like you're just hopping on Dasocks pressure wagon wait wtf dasocks isnt bgb right? im sincerely confused as to the meaning of this post
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 30, 2018 21:23:18 GMT
My stance on TBZ is that he has an interesting dynamic with Fenny. I'm keeping an eye on it, but the closest thing I have to a townlock right now is og villain - he's making informed choices but I don't see him as being terribly attached to any of his reads, which at this point in the game, I would see as a red flag.I guess I'll also take this time to add that "leaping to someone's defense", as you so colorfully put it, is a v different thing from fact-checking - and speaking as someone who was also AWOL for a chunk of the day, I'd've hoped you'd be a lot more preoccupied with the latter. OM's making informed choices? LYNCH MECHAMEW2REVENGE AT LONG LAST AFTER SPIDERZ BETRAYED ME SO What're some examples of the choices he's making that make you townread him? Also what're your current thoughts on the "interesting dynamic", even if it's just light reads on us one way or another? Don't really see what moto has that's lynch-worthy either considering he only has the Sceptorus vote. Would rather go one of bgb/Scept right now. So you in tour eyes, someone who is just saying thing that you may think is fairly obvious is very much lynch worthy? If so Why is that exactly, could you elaborate more The problem I had with it was that you were using a large paragraph to say something fairly obvious/using a lot of words to say very little. It makes it look like you're putting in more effort than you actually are.
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 30, 2018 21:23:49 GMT
Ffs get out of the thread you people I was going to sleep after I caught up
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Post by Fenrir on Jul 30, 2018 21:26:48 GMT
Well i mean weak reasoning like "oh he scummy" and just instantly assume they are scum. Though im mot sure hows the ideology is handled here Lmao this boi bgb sayin being scummy is not scum bro are you high? Also getting misrepresentation vibes from here; to me it was pretty clear bgb was saying people shouldn't death-tunnel the first thing they find scummy. After all, it didn't end well for Emmy.
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Post by qtball on Jul 30, 2018 21:26:55 GMT
this one comment pings me the wrong way especially after bgb made the original comment ages ago. Seems like you're just hopping on Dasocks pressure wagon wait wtf dasocks isnt bgb right? im sincerely confused as to the meaning of this post dasocks is pressuring bgb, more bad wording on my end
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Post by motogp on Jul 30, 2018 21:27:58 GMT
I'm a bit late, so I'll just start with a readlist. 1) Fenrir - Scumlean Something about his townread on Tbowl feels really off to me. "Currently giving Thunder a soft townlean based on his differentiating between the main scumteam and the Traitor in his reads." First off, how does differentiating goon vs. traitor signify town? Why would scum be less likely to do this? I don't follow this line of logic. I also strongly agree with what WholeLottaGangShit said very recently, regarding finding the traitor. It's near impossible because I think Mafia most likely recruited the traitor, and even if they didn't, there is only one traitor who would act just like a Townie since they don't know their partners. 2) og villain - neutral/town Nothing about him is giving me any scum vibes. He seems pretty relaxed. I'd like to see him under pressure just to see how reacts, but there's really no need to do so as of right now. 3) ForgotToFlush - neutral He's a very cunning player, so I'm refraining from townleaning him this early even though his actions seem town. I'd like to see him go CAPS mode. 4) XnadrojX - townlean Although I don't really agree with his reads, he has solid reasoning and it seems like his wolfhunting is coming from a genuine perspective. 5) Dais ex Eltnum - scumlean I fully do not understand his posts. He calls out OMGUS, but then lynches someone unrelated with no further explanation. I'm going to keep my eyes on him, as he is playing very differently than what I've seen. 6) Tbowl - no idea Call me a bad player, but this one's a tossup for me. I'd rather not give myself a headache trying to figure out what he's doing. 7) Toni XY - null Blank 8) schiavetto - scum He doesn't have too many posts, although I'm not one to talk. The way he leaps to Tbowl`s defense worries me that they might be either a scumteam or schiavetto is scum attempting to pocket Tbowl or gain towncred when town!Tbowl flips. He provides zero reasoning as to he might possibly townread Tbowl and instead just criticizes WholeLottaGangShit`s read. It could possibly be a chainsaw, but that might be a reach. 9) WholeLottaGangShit - neutral/town Nothing really AI out of him yet, but I'm liking his contributions, particularly the comment about traitor recruitment. 10) MechaMew2 - me If I say anything here, people will think I'm softting Traitor or whatnot, but even just saying this is enough for someone to create a case. 11) motogp - neutral Not enough information here. He sounds a little defensive, but he was also like that in a past game where he was town. 12)bluegummybear7 - town Ignoring the strange capitalization, I think he's town because he's drawing attention to himself by saying something along the lines of he plays how he wants and that he might come off as scummy. This is also a bit of a gutread, but his tone comes off as genuine. This is off-putting, and I can't place it. I don't like how he came in and posted a readlist first of a bunch of things that he wants to see happening but doesn't act on it, (such as wanting me under pressure, but doesn't place it; his two srs on fenrir and schiavetto and not backing them up with a lynch or anything, etc.)
For now, I'm sticking to my lynch on mm2 slot.
Quoting this because I can't find the original post. I like how OM is pressuring mm2 rn,which makes me tr him. Regarding MM2's reads 1.I want more elaboration on the reasoning behind scumreading fenrir. 2.Your townread on Sceptorus is literally "I want to tr him and I need to find reasoning" most of his comments are filler and I don't see how you can call his comments regarding traitors contribution. 3.Your read on Schiavetto also seems forced due to the amount of wifom included 4.Xnadrojx omgused an rvs and I haven't seen any solid reasoning from him even outside of that
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