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Post by ❗ on Dec 31, 2023 19:16:00 GMT
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Post by ❗ on Oct 30, 2023 22:45:30 GMT
in as sub
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Post by ❗ on May 3, 2023 0:42:21 GMT
bro scorrching was like my ssr and it was weird that the kill wasn't sylveon or cyan do you think the Schiavetto kill makes sense for Ice Mafia?
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Post by ❗ on May 3, 2023 0:20:26 GMT
i think the only ppl to kill myan n1 are like tos and shaun anyways
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Post by ❗ on May 2, 2023 6:01:07 GMT
ftf died n1 by fire. What do we make of this, everyone? vote no vote i got a lot of shit for saying we shouldn't be paying attention to this. if you want to talk about something interesting we can talk about how both of the people giving me shit were killed n2 but i highly doubt flush was the focus for either kill because no one else was talking about his reads late d2/early d3 yes that's right let's talk about it. Why did they die?
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Post by ❗ on May 1, 2023 21:40:39 GMT
vvv ForgotToFlush vv Schia, lindauna, scrooch v termsofservice, aka w Cyan, clems, ccg ww Myan n zesty/dactyl/sand ftf died n1 by fire. What do we make of this, everyone? vote no vote
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Post by ❗ on May 1, 2023 18:26:59 GMT
when is dl again?
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Post by ❗ on May 1, 2023 6:21:25 GMT
Hey........ i am here to fill a slot, but i guess since i am here i should try to be a good slot. Someone fill me in? basic game info D1: initial wagons were myanmario/termsofservice, clemensthelemon (我是谁) wagoned next and voted out, flipped ice. shaun-ccgeek was primary counterwagon N1: ftflush killed by fire (flipped doc), myan killed by ice D2: less momentum, no real wagons (biggest piles were on ccgeek, me and sylveon). shift towards akakakp closer to EoD (flipped fire), with scorrchingtheaph as the counterwagon N2: scorr killed by fire, schia killed by ice powerplayers of the game were lindauna and schiavetto (and myself and scorr to a lesser extent). ccgeek and tos remain as semi-actives. ihbst has been kinda low-effort troll gotcha thanks
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Post by ❗ on May 1, 2023 5:50:58 GMT
Hey........ i am here to fill a slot, but i guess since i am here i should try to be a good slot. Someone fill me in?
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Post by ❗ on Mar 24, 2023 2:30:46 GMT
in (low-prio)
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Post by ❗ on Jun 17, 2021 23:49:17 GMT
vote litt
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Post by ❗ on Jun 17, 2021 17:45:08 GMT
no? are you confusing me with theaph, who is the question mark? Oh. Maybe. Regardless, that's a recent game where I played just like I am here. One more thing I'm considering (if you hadn't noticed I'm just putting all my reads out for everyone to read)-- no nk on Zorq or Litt is kinda weird. Both have been tr'd a bit and never really faced pressure. Just a thought, nothing to work too much on, but I may be leaning litt for vote. Opinions? I'm still neutral on Litt. I don't understand why he's backing a false statement from Zorq but would he be that obvious as w/w? ok news you're right this is going on long enough so this will be my last post about the whole AM thing but feel free to comment. i have no idea what AM is arguing here- they were: 1) saying that i said litt vs AM was tvt - which I clarified, and they ignored 2) that the pmeta wasn't AI- this is the only part where I can see an argument, except that they admitted that they were less spirited this game due to lowposting. i did not read any of the other forum games, and since you admitted that litt's statement was true, I did not need to. but you also said that "i had smilar posting levels" in the time heist. this may be true, but litt was saying you were less spirited, nothing about the posting levels, which i guess thinking about it now you seemed to have consciously remembered. i explained the coin thing, and as we do not see both sides, it is merely a lean, but it coupled with poe for me to scumread you. 3) you're saying i was in the time heist game, which was theaph 4) idk about bath, but i was the one pushing you, and you're pushing back, not the other way around oh well though this semi feels like paranoid townie, same case as bath being desperate which is why i'm still thinking erry over anyone else. they've felt like the least genuine this game, the crystal / erry svt, the flip read, and partly because bomb died altho that's wifom. would prefer if bath and litt said something first before anything else
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Post by ❗ on Jun 17, 2021 4:35:20 GMT
for you to have been playing differently as you do as town, whatever the reason, is playing differently from your town pmeta, and just like any other reasoning here, it's something that scum is able to make up. if you're talking about previous forum games, it's been i'm pretty sure more than a year since i've played my last and i don't have the faintest clue since you weren't an active psmaf player. Don't think i'm stretching anything Didn't you literally play Time Heist a few months ago with me where I was doing similar posting levels? no? are you confusing me with theaph, who is the question mark?
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Post by ❗ on Jun 16, 2021 12:42:47 GMT
ffd, don't think am's edje tunnel is not consistent with how they usually play binged through the forum game time heist where this was literally the same perceived situation, where they kept pushing azero everyday but it was actually spirited while you can boil some part of it down to like general thread inactivity, you'd think they'd be some degree of annoyance which is like completely absent in their posts, rather, they're just skating which says to me it's likely they're non town I don't really feel invested in this game to be honest. Majority lowposting does that to me. admitting that your playstyle is different here for whatever reason ^ you're implicitly confirming that the observed thing is true and not refuting it, by giving a reason why that happened He's claiming it AI. It's not. I've never even been scum (outside of 3p) on here before though so it's really wolfy to push me for something like this. pmeta is AI, and pmeta does not require knowing both sides of the coin to determine which u r. if, within my realm of knowledge, you acted a certain way as town in one game, and you admitted that you were less spirited this game (as a result of "lowposting"), you are acting different from your town pmeta. your grounds for pushing were also that I called you and litt v/v, and you seemed to have dropped that after clarifying, but are still pushing me for the other reason without backing down about that. the pmeta was a lead, I stated that the vote was due to poe as well, but your reactions have been over the top and meant to defend rather than discuss and the only reason I can think of such an exaggerated reaction is because you personally feel outed from what you said. regardless though i think the crystal / erry thing holds true, esp since erry turned their reads last second on me knowing that crystal was about to be voted out. not confident about the third but as i said if it's am it's probably not Litt, and to a lesser extent probably not edj (again, unless they planned the reactions). have something else to say but i would like Animal Midwife to respond first
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Post by ❗ on Jun 15, 2021 3:59:49 GMT
okok i appreciate the clarification so it was more of a general outline of a gutread / lean list instead of any solid reads i was talking more about the fact that bath is sticking on erry, but i understand the thought process you have here, similar to the way i feel bomb might be doing on erry as for bath / litt / edj the pairing post was mostly from what i read and was thinking of in general, but for the 3 of them i first wanna say edj has struck me as slightly defensive in some of his posts, moreso than others (excluding bath's eod), but his tone has been similar to erry's except more genuine. the thing litt pointed about news and edj seems valid and on top of that edj could have stayed defending bath but changed his read as he viewed the progression not to be townie. in the case edj was scum and bath was town, it feels like he could have just stuck with bath for pocket cred given that he was already gaining traction. ^ it turns out edj didn't defend bath as hard as i thought, i also thought he had used a pmeta on read before so actually if other people could give thoughts on this it would be nice. i feel as if edj was scum he would be preparing a fake counterwagon on bubida while bath got eliminated to help with the whole wagon towncred w/e w/e. in any case, it seems that edj was giving the impression that he was willing to let bath die, and I think if he was scum with bath he would have pushed harder on bubida given that he was pretty scummy. given scum bath and edj town, it's probably edj just being okay with a bath vote which also makes sense as he was iffy and pressuring bath for a response. again this is something i can't really say for sure so i'd rather have other people's thoughts, altho i'm pretty sure they're both not scum. looking back on the end of day shifting, litt got off mostly because of bath quoting a dead player? the thing is here that litt / bath probably aren't scum together because there's no reason for litt scum to shift off bath scum when bath is a near universal sr, only draws more attention to litt if someone decided to shift onto bath. litt is a good player and bussing would be optimal for him as he could get rid of a uni sr, become a uni tr, and stay relatively safe given that the doc would protect him. still unsure but if there is a scum between them im still inclined to think bath the last possibility is that all 3 of them are scum and the whole eod shift was coordinated as were their interactions which would be incredible but i seriously doubt it, other players are looking scummy too. bath probably isn't scum with edj / litt, as for edj and litt, i can actually potentially see the chance of a scumteam of litt and edj with bath as their tool for messing up town. i think what litt said about news / edj not being a pair is valid but his reasoning on edj alone being town is that edj scum only "minorly benefits" which can be sorta lost in wifom. while most of litt's reasoning in general is pretty much solid, i feel like in the chance that they're both scum this single piece of reasoning is a bit lackluster in order to keep a tr on his buddy thinking about this is a bit difficult but bomb moss was also valid on this with bath's attention being scum manipulated, and if so, one of them is probably litt and edj. however i still want to say the litt / AM thing was townie within itself, and AM being scum probably soft clears litt, which might boil it back down to edj / bath. AM has also stayed relatively distant to bath I feel like which could make them possible candidates either way, im making more reads with more questions so thanks. i might be pushing crystal too hard for a new player especially since it's p much guaranteed there's at least an experienced scum player on the team. i think best course of action is unvote crystal vote animal midwife ill be back eod hopefully i really gotta do some work but yeah lmk thoughts i feel like this vote can be crucial for solving I don't really get the vote on AM here. Your previous posts have made it pretty clear that you think there is scum between either Crystal or I, if you feel like you're putting a bit too much pressure on Crystal as a new player then I could understand shifting off of them, but I'm confused why you shifted to AM mostly. It feels far too late in the day to gain anything out of shifting onto AM since its unlikely that votes will flip them tonight with how they're currently stacked. You also said you felt like Bath is unlikely to be scum, so I get why you wouldn't go on them as well as why you might want to shift the vote off of them, but if you were going to shift then why not shift onto me? You've already said several times that you think there's scum between Crystal or I, so then why wouldn't you shift to me? Unlike shifting to AM it would very much so be possible to shift a lynch onto me tonight which would both increase the chance of sparing Bath, someone you think might be town, and lynch someone who you think could be scum, being me if you shifted onto me or Crystal as well if you chose not to shift at all. The main thing I see happening by shifting onto AM here is it causing more chaos tbh. You've now set it up so that going into d4 there would continue to be sus on me and Crystal, as well as more sus on AM now too. This gives maf so many splits and wagons they could throw on tomorrow without looking sl for throwing on them themselves. I honestly feel like Bath is probably town here and that zorquax is scum with Crystal as a potential partner now, which would also fit my read earlier of thinking Crystal was sl. I'm gonna be shifting onto Crystal here because of this and lynching Crystal here could give us a lot more information I feel like based on how they've been tied into a lot reads, especially ones with zorquax now, while I don't see us gaining much from lynching Bath here tbh. Unvote Bath
Vote Crystalmy vote on AM is simply due to poe, in the case that one of you / crystal is scum, that leaves the litt / edj / bath trio, which I believe has one scum, and between bomb moss and AM, bomb's vote on erry felt out of place but his reasoning for the bath thing and his fundamental hallmark resonated pretty townie to me, esp after reconsidering my read on bath and that scum is likely influencing the vote on him. eod shifts are common and i see no reason to risk a 50/50 when im pretty sure this is the outlier scum. there's 1 min left but you seemed to have done a full 180 on me which idk how to feel about
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Post by ❗ on Jun 15, 2021 3:54:13 GMT
if ur talking about this i'm saying that ur admitting ur playing differently from your town pmeta which is implicating that litt's hunting method was actually legit therefore townlean on him, not u Literally nowhere did I say it was outside my town meta. I said consistent lowposting is demotivating and doesn't make me want to put a ton of energy into solving. Which you have seen me do as village before. Why are you stretching things? for you to have been playing differently as you do as town, whatever the reason, is playing differently from your town pmeta, and just like any other reasoning here, it's something that scum is able to make up. if you're talking about previous forum games, it's been i'm pretty sure more than a year since i've played my last and i don't have the faintest clue since you weren't an active psmaf player. Don't think i'm stretching anything
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Post by ❗ on Jun 15, 2021 3:45:52 GMT
ffd, don't think am's edje tunnel is not consistent with how they usually play binged through the forum game time heist where this was literally the same perceived situation, where they kept pushing azero everyday but it was actually spirited while you can boil some part of it down to like general thread inactivity, you'd think they'd be some degree of annoyance which is like completely absent in their posts, rather, they're just skating which says to me it's likely they're non town I don't really feel invested in this game to be honest. Majority lowposting does that to me. litt searching and animal admitting to their town pmeta and that it's different this game actually a p big towntell if ur talking about this i'm saying that ur admitting ur playing differently from your town pmeta which is implicating that litt's hunting method was actually legit therefore townlean on him, not u
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Post by ❗ on Jun 15, 2021 3:41:37 GMT
uh i don't recall ever saying that
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Post by ❗ on Jun 15, 2021 3:23:30 GMT
what do you mean by v/v? village v village / town v town?
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Post by ❗ on Jun 14, 2021 22:15:31 GMT
as for ur other post i can't comment much on a gutread but think it would have made more sense if you said that earlier as for this what do you think about bath's push on erry? First of all thanks for your posts, your one of the only one to try to make things move and I like how you present them, even if I can disagree with some parts So yeah I'm pretty new to the uses and habits of forum games, so my list maybe wasn't very clear ; it was not something that should make a benchmark of who is mafia or who is not, it was more of a sus list against some people who felt strange to me The whole thing around bath has gone a little too far i think, for me their reaction was not something you can expect from a real town player, but ofc maybe it's just their normal way of playing idk anything about anyone in the game before it started, as you guys seems to have some history. As for erry I understand from where all the accusations come from, but I kinda agree with their logic and their reads more than other players ; and the vote from bath to erry just add at my idea to vote for him, it's probably a "revenge" because it was the other way around yesterday, and their point of erry not talking yesterday is just wrong ; if bath is really mafia the explanation is even faster And finally I have a question for you, just your opinion on the bath/litt/edj trio since you didn't mentioned it at all in your pairing introduction Sorry for my late answer, I faced some struggle to write fast and still be understable as English is not my first language okok i appreciate the clarification so it was more of a general outline of a gutread / lean list instead of any solid reads i was talking more about the fact that bath is sticking on erry, but i understand the thought process you have here, similar to the way i feel bomb might be doing on erry as for bath / litt / edj the pairing post was mostly from what i read and was thinking of in general, but for the 3 of them i first wanna say edj has struck me as slightly defensive in some of his posts, moreso than others (excluding bath's eod), but his tone has been similar to erry's except more genuine. the thing litt pointed about news and edj seems valid and on top of that edj could have stayed defending bath but changed his read as he viewed the progression not to be townie. in the case edj was scum and bath was town, it feels like he could have just stuck with bath for pocket cred given that he was already gaining traction. ^ it turns out edj didn't defend bath as hard as i thought, i also thought he had used a pmeta on read before so actually if other people could give thoughts on this it would be nice. i feel as if edj was scum he would be preparing a fake counterwagon on bubida while bath got eliminated to help with the whole wagon towncred w/e w/e. in any case, it seems that edj was giving the impression that he was willing to let bath die, and I think if he was scum with bath he would have pushed harder on bubida given that he was pretty scummy. given scum bath and edj town, it's probably edj just being okay with a bath vote which also makes sense as he was iffy and pressuring bath for a response. again this is something i can't really say for sure so i'd rather have other people's thoughts, altho i'm pretty sure they're both not scum. looking back on the end of day shifting, litt got off mostly because of bath quoting a dead player? the thing is here that litt / bath probably aren't scum together because there's no reason for litt scum to shift off bath scum when bath is a near universal sr, only draws more attention to litt if someone decided to shift onto bath. litt is a good player and bussing would be optimal for him as he could get rid of a uni sr, become a uni tr, and stay relatively safe given that the doc would protect him. still unsure but if there is a scum between them im still inclined to think bath the last possibility is that all 3 of them are scum and the whole eod shift was coordinated as were their interactions which would be incredible but i seriously doubt it, other players are looking scummy too. bath probably isn't scum with edj / litt, as for edj and litt, i can actually potentially see the chance of a scumteam of litt and edj with bath as their tool for messing up town. i think what litt said about news / edj not being a pair is valid but his reasoning on edj alone being town is that edj scum only "minorly benefits" which can be sorta lost in wifom. while most of litt's reasoning in general is pretty much solid, i feel like in the chance that they're both scum this single piece of reasoning is a bit lackluster in order to keep a tr on his buddy thinking about this is a bit difficult but bomb moss was also valid on this with bath's attention being scum manipulated, and if so, one of them is probably litt and edj. however i still want to say the litt / AM thing was townie within itself, and AM being scum probably soft clears litt, which might boil it back down to edj / bath. AM has also stayed relatively distant to bath I feel like which could make them possible candidates either way, im making more reads with more questions so thanks. i might be pushing crystal too hard for a new player especially since it's p much guaranteed there's at least an experienced scum player on the team. i think best course of action is unvote crystal vote animal midwife ill be back eod hopefully i really gotta do some work but yeah lmk thoughts i feel like this vote can be crucial for solving
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Post by ❗ on Jun 14, 2021 20:53:21 GMT
ffd, don't think am's edje tunnel is not consistent with how they usually play binged through the forum game time heist where this was literally the same perceived situation, where they kept pushing azero everyday but it was actually spirited while you can boil some part of it down to like general thread inactivity, you'd think they'd be some degree of annoyance which is like completely absent in their posts, rather, they're just skating which says to me it's likely they're non town ffd, don't think am's edje tunnel is not consistent with how they usually play binged through the forum game time heist where this was literally the same perceived situation, where they kept pushing azero everyday but it was actually spirited while you can boil some part of it down to like general thread inactivity, you'd think they'd be some degree of annoyance which is like completely absent in their posts, rather, they're just skating which says to me it's likely they're non town I don't really feel invested in this game to be honest. Majority lowposting does that to me. litt searching and animal admitting to their town pmeta and that it's different this game actually a p big towntell
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Post by ❗ on Jun 14, 2021 20:46:54 GMT
crystal what compels you to town AM from what they've said? So basically I don't see why they would vote like that one player if they were mafia, I mean it's not the best strategy and it might seems tunneling after 3 days but the fact that I also feel sus about edj put them outside of the mafia party for me. The problem is that they didn't post a lot, except to vote for edj, so it's very hard to get clear conclusions at the end of the day as for ur other post i can't comment much on a gutread but think it would have made more sense if you said that earlier as for this what do you think about bath's push on erry?
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Post by ❗ on Jun 14, 2021 20:39:42 GMT
y'all really do asking for logic and reasoning in a game of 8 pages huh. Asking people for their reasons isn't the only way to provoke AI content y'know. As far as I can see, there's barely anything substantial to base any reads off, other than people being "generally" townie or "generally" scummy. I'd also like to call out how "their posts looks townie" or "their logic makes sense" or "I see town intent" is vague enough to be basically fluff. Which is fine when there's nothing else to base your read off but it's not exactly the pinnacle of what makes someone towncore. first of all wanna say if there is scum between AM / News it is AM crystal / erry not pair bath / erry not pair bomb / erry likely not pair and what litt said i agree edj / news not pair there's a very low chance edj / AM are a pair, the vote would be a good play since edj probably wouldn't get traction but edj's reactions make me doubt svs as for the next two posts can you explain bcuz i feel like im misinterpreting what you're saying, for this one it seems like you're saying there isn't much to go off of, but people who are saying those "fluff" phrases are saying that people are "generally townie" and "generally scummy" aren't they? To me, the hallmark of scumtells is trying to look townie without actually doing anything that will produce alignment indicative content. So erry can I raise the counterpoint to you, what would you like to see more from me? Do you just want me to post more so you can read my tone? Or do you want me to start prodding people and chasing reads? Because as far as I can tell, you've not addressed anyone directly for anything. You're throwing reads out there for "I don't like their baseless reads" and "I don't like gut/tone reads" or "their logic is sound". Before I get misconstrued, I don't really care if its right or wrong. But reading people based off their own read logic is just the laziest and inaccurate method to determine alignments. Town and Mafia both have logic. Logic is a universal thing. Logic doesn't separate town from mafia, it's just another vector to approach the game from. Vote erryI don't like your reads, not necessarily because I disagree, but because it feels like a lazy attempt to throw reads out there to "contribute" and be a good townie or whatever. If anyone else has anything specific they want to engage me with, I'm going to be online for the next few hours. ok so here i super agree with the scumtell part it's just that again, clarify what you're saying if im wrong, but this feels like an omgus since you're taking the last part of erry's statement (a sl on you) and using the fact that they aren't doing anything with their reads which doesn't seem to be the case based on their read list before, which seemed pretty reasonable to me, unless i'm misinterpreting "you've not addressed anyone directly for anything" basically seems like nitpicking their last statement and twisting it into your own narrative, which is that scum doesn't do anything with the information they receive from asking questions etc. To me, the hallmark of scumtells is trying to look townie without actually doing anything that will produce alignment indicative content. So erry can I raise the counterpoint to you, what would you like to see more from me? Do you just want me to post more so you can read my tone? Or do you want me to start prodding people and chasing reads? Because as far as I can tell, you've not addressed anyone directly for anything. You're throwing reads out there for "I don't like their baseless reads" and "I don't like gut/tone reads" or "their logic is sound". Before I get misconstrued, I don't really care if its right or wrong. But reading people based off their own read logic is just the laziest and inaccurate method to determine alignments. Town and Mafia both have logic. Logic is a universal thing. Logic doesn't separate town from mafia, it's just another vector to approach the game from. Vote erryI don't like your reads, not necessarily because I disagree, but because it feels like a lazy attempt to throw reads out there to "contribute" and be a good townie or whatever. If anyone else has anything specific they want to engage me with, I'm going to be online for the next few hours. You asked what I wanted to see more from you, so tbh I want to see more like this post from you because to me this feels like the first post I've seen from you that's actually had logic behind it. I get your point about both sides having their own logic, but until now it feels like you haven't had any to me, everything you've done has just felt like a really bland attempt to skate by without sinking anything actually into it. This post actually makes sense to me though, I can actually see logic in it and that's what I was mostly saying you weren't presenting before imo @bombmoss thoughts on this? I listed further reasoning as to why I initially voted him yesterday, but after his further actions yesterday and now today I see even less reason to believe him as town. I'll try to be here eod in case anything drastic changes, but for now Vote Bathno the initial sl was bc you were the first in the game to sheep a vote or smth like that. I said it d1 weren't you getting upset that the reasons for you were bad? unless that was rvs it doesn't seem like solid reasoning to justify the same push I don't really want to elaborate on behavioral tells because they often go both ways, but like. Re-read that EoD and try to think about it in more meaningful ways other than "defense = scum" like y'all seem to be throwing out. Quax even had a whole post sitting on the fence about it, but at least he put thought into it. Does bath sound more desperate or frustrated? What do you think scum feels in that situation? Something about Quax's post is where he says "the frustration might stem from scum thinking they're playing well", but does the same not apply for a townie? You say it feels worse when it's scum because of the "right for the wrong reasons" effect, but I can also say that it feels worse as a townie, because you know they're wrong and you're seeing fellow townies throw the game by having bad reads. Do you have the grasp on bath's playermeta to say which kind is he? The tipping point for me is that the push on bath is so half-assed that I'm convinced that there's scum intent behind it, because it seems hellla more focused on "bath must die" instead of "bath is scum". I'm sure the significance of this difference is obvious to anyone genuinely reading posts. the thing is that personally as town and I think as a general town mentality (although maybe dumb) is that as a town you are being as genuine and expressive as you are supposed to be as town, which means that the burden of responsibility lies upon other people to try and figure out whether you are town or not. main objective as town is to find scum, which is their goal, which can be achieved through any means desired, while as scum you want to maintain the appearance of a general "pro active townie" or at least something that resembles a townie, which is why your other point about the hallmark of scumtells. but honestly thinking about it as i wrote it, bath has been pretty genuine, and while he could be genuinely desperate, compared to the rest of town, he's been a general outlier who doesn't really seem to have an agenda. i can't say i have a solid playermeta bcuz it's mostly instinctive but he is a pretty expressive player as town i remember so i agree there are better votes than bath today the thing with erry is that i agree with bomb moss that he is trying to appear townie, but not in the way that he's saying where they aren't doing anything with their info. It's more like they're kind of staying under the radar with their towniness, but also making their reads that really have one main line of thinking. basically the too townie thing problem is i don't really see a valid partner for erry besides litt, and in which case edj would probably be town, on top of the fact that litt might have done 2 / 1 with their trs at the end of the day i'm most unfamiliar with crystal and erry but i'm confident one is scum
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Post by ❗ on Jun 13, 2021 23:03:54 GMT
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Post by ❗ on Jun 13, 2021 22:56:26 GMT
So here I am, and these are my suspicions/reads: Bath is the first on the list, because of everything that we stated before and his reaction to the accusations, espcially the vote he justified by survivalism, I think it's time we vote him, we have been talking about this since day one Litt is the "second" one I guess, I don't think their activity at the beggining can justify a town read, and their last vote on bubida, removing the one on bath, made me think it was to protect bath, while they didn't really provide a decent answerI don't feel safe regarding edj either, he was the first one to vote bubida because of only two posts that weren't really akward, plus he kinda try to pocket me while I said earlier I found him suspicious I'm not sure about erry and news and bomb, they could be both idk, I would rank them as : erry>bomb>news For the town side, I'll put animal an ! for now since I don't get scum vibes from them this is cool and all but this is explaining why they are keeping litt as a sr (even though they have not explained why the previous read had been a scumread rather than a nullread ((off something not being townie in their eyes)) ) so it feels way too logically inconsistent, you can defend yourself but at this point it's going to feel like you're just making stuff up vote crystal
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