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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 22:32:27 GMT
Like, ch7's reaction is so reflexively town looking to me, idk how f2f can ever see that as some sorta calculated scum move.
Also dont agree with scum making a WIFOM play at this point in the game when they are pretty disadvantaged. I usally see scum do that kinda stuff closer to an end game situstion, or when they have a goood lead/out.
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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 22:37:03 GMT
I almost feel like flip should be between PTSD and Me today, then town should employ hevery PR pressure on F2F tonight in the form of(RBs, investigatives, someother other blocking or manipulative role common here)
Im inclueing both PTSD and I in PoE b/c neithger of us have the option to do night actions tonight if we are town, and are therefore much less useful then the rest of potential townies on the roster.
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Post by grendel on Jan 25, 2021 22:37:38 GMT
tmk every other player has the option to use a night action tonight right?
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 23:36:29 GMT
well now that we know scum gets a factional kill in addition to an action psychoflush is basically unviable unless ptsd rbed flush/docced someone etc Whys it unviable? I still dont really understand the exact definiteion of terms like Psychotrooper, and Blood hound. I feel like i should tried to read up on common meta, and termniology w/ this playerbase. Since theres been some lingo thats been floating over my head so far. whoops, i guess? Also im kinda drunk rn so if i say something stupid thats why In the context of this game bloodhound is just a cop Psychotrooper is a role that flips all binary investigative results So the only way flush could be scum is if he traded his nk for a psychotrooper/alignment hiding effect |
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 23:38:50 GMT
Sorry, the lack of notices and anything going on makes me forget about this came, I hard claim CC. I checked Litt and Quo with the drawback that i would Vanillaise myself for the rest of the game after, though considering i got compatible, i would say it is worth it. Im guessing CC is cop check. If so then they def points to town Litt. I still feel like Flush could've selected some kinda investigative immunity, and then submit a NK since Mod confirmed that muti-tasking is a thing. "Muti-tasking" is mafia getting to use both the factional kill, and personal ablity each ngiht. This is also assuming that PTSD is legit, and not scum Cc is compatibility checker Yea but how would that kill from flush have been neutralized? |
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Post by quojova on Jan 25, 2021 23:52:44 GMT
tmk every other player has the option to use a night action tonight right? What was your drawback exactly? |
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Post by quojova on Jan 26, 2021 0:00:36 GMT
Psychoflush is dead because it would have flipped ptsds result
Some other concealing role still could make him technically scum
Really though flush is almost never who we vote out so that discussion is a bit of a waste of time
Although that time is worth it if we can all be on the same page there
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Post by grendel on Jan 26, 2021 2:31:38 GMT
I forfeited my night action tonight as draw back for last night.
Instead of waiting on a list of draw backs i figured that tracker check with one scum left is eqivlant with a cop check. So I offered not action tonightm and Smallz found it acceptable.
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Post by grendel on Jan 26, 2021 2:35:42 GMT
So the only way flush could be scum is if he traded his nk for a psychotrooper/alignment hiding effect im in agree ment that mech wise he is town looking. I think that play wise his play rings scum to me. So i guess keep that in mind long term. |
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Post by grendel on Jan 26, 2021 2:39:08 GMT
what is compatibility checker?
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Post by quojova on Jan 26, 2021 3:38:01 GMT
So the only way flush could be scum is if he traded his nk for a psychotrooper/alignment hiding effect im in agree ment that mech wise he is town looking. I think that play wise his play rings scum to me. So i guess keep that in mind long term. ok suppose ptsd flips town who do you suspect? |
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Post by quojova on Jan 26, 2021 3:42:21 GMT
what is compatibility checker? takes two players as inputs and returns whether or not their wincons are compatible btw almost all of the roles we talk about are either on the mafiascum wiki or if not there are accessible by typing /mafia dt [role] in the pokemon showdown site |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 26, 2021 4:13:54 GMT
back
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Post by grendel on Jan 26, 2021 4:18:35 GMT
im in agree ment that mech wise he is town looking. I think that play wise his play rings scum to me. So i guess keep that in mind long term. ok suppose ptsd flips town who do you suspect? what is compatibility checker? takes two players as inputs and returns whether or not their wincons are compatible btw almost all of the roles we talk about are either on the mafiascum wiki or if not there are accessible by typing /mafia dt [role] in the pokemon showdown site asaik there isnt a way that mafia can cheese comp checker. So a PTSD town flip clears you and f2f 100% That would mean that scum would have to be somebody unexpected like Almost. |
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Post by grendel on Jan 26, 2021 4:23:45 GMT
you play on MS Quo?
I did not see any of those terms on MS wiki when i looked them up.
I didnt try the role command in the pokeshowdown mafia server, i forgot that was a thing. But Ill keep it in mind so i dont have to ply ppl with basic questions all the time.
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Post by quojova on Jan 26, 2021 4:43:35 GMT
you play on MS Quo? I did not see any of those terms on MS wiki when i looked them up. I didnt try the role command in the pokeshowdown mafia server, i forgot that was a thing. But Ill keep it in mind so i dont have to ply ppl with basic questions all the time. nah i've never played on MS but I mean it's the largest mafia wiki there is I did notice compatibility checker wasn't on there when I checked (I assume it has some different name) but psychotrooper/bloodhound were on there under idea themes in general when in doubt check idea roles because psmafia has an obsession for idea themes |
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Post by quojova on Jan 26, 2021 4:44:57 GMT
and he never returned still curious why exactly you think what you do on chap btw, even more interested now that you are near conftown |
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Post by quojova on Jan 26, 2021 4:45:46 GMT
ok suppose ptsd flips town who do you suspect? takes two players as inputs and returns whether or not their wincons are compatible btw almost all of the roles we talk about are either on the mafiascum wiki or if not there are accessible by typing /mafia dt [role] in the pokemon showdown site asaik there isnt a way that mafia can cheese comp checker. So a PTSD town flip clears you and f2f 100% That would mean that scum would have to be somebody unexpected like Almost. I'm hesitant to say 100% because I mean we are allowing almost every role in the game but yea it is quite unlikely |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 26, 2021 5:09:33 GMT
back again
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 26, 2021 5:24:56 GMT
if you're scum and litt claims that bh without the joke then you know it's false no matter what
chappie didnt read the post properly and extrapolated the rest (evidenced by the fact that he still doesnt seem to understand what happened)
so it's plausible that he'd cling onto it like that regardless of alignment
i feel like it's the kind of thing that town should catch, could catch, but i don't know if they necessarily would catch it every single time
so we agree from a !scumchap pov that it would appear to be a false post more easily than if he were town? doesn't that indicate him being town from the fact he wasn't able to determine it was a false post? I don't really get your train of thought |
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Post by quojova on Jan 26, 2021 5:27:11 GMT
so we agree from a !scumchap pov that it would appear to be a false post more easily than if he were town? doesn't that indicate him being town from the fact he wasn't able to determine it was a false post? I don't really get your train of thought do you think that's likely for scum chap |
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 26, 2021 5:29:21 GMT
Like, ch7's reaction is so reflexively town looking to me, idk how f2f can ever see that as some sorta calculated scum move. Also dont agree with scum making a WIFOM play at this point in the game when they are pretty disadvantaged. I usally see scum do that kinda stuff closer to an end game situstion, or when they have a goood lead/out.
chapter seven being bad at reading and statistics is not a legitimate stance
the things he was getting worked up over, are things nobody has business getting worked up over
plus a lot of this post is just drivel
one scum left is an endgame situation
pretending that scum wouldn't be desperate in a 1v6 NS game is crazy
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 26, 2021 5:31:42 GMT
it makes sense if you just want to shotgun the hell out of the vote if anything else do you think that's likely for scum chap
dude was grasping like crazy
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 26, 2021 5:32:32 GMT
unvote chappie
vote chappie but harder
Iso you're saying you wouldn't take those odds because I still don't see what's wrong with a 50% BH either the game ends right there or we go into Lylo
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jan 26, 2021 5:33:37 GMT
anyway
i should be pretty close to mech locked right?
like there's no other way to explain the lack of kill other than litt did it or scum holstered
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