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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 13, 2021 3:58:42 GMT
gimm1ck has died. They were Vanilla Townie.
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 13, 2021 4:00:07 GMT
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Post by NewsDan on Jun 13, 2021 13:24:42 GMT
So uh... survivalism b weird?
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Post by NewsDan on Jun 13, 2021 13:25:08 GMT
vote bath
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Post by NewsDan on Jun 13, 2021 13:30:31 GMT
Rn bath has become my biggest sus for pure survivalism. Litt jumping to defend was weird, esp after bubida not being here. So litt is now null for me not tl, will depend on bath flip. Still wanna check out bmoss for being very reactive rather than active. But rn my tr is zorq, midwife and edj as tls. Most others are null.
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Post by bathsplishsploosh on Jun 13, 2021 14:47:25 GMT
dan taking the expected approach is fine. sticking to my initial sl, and also bc they talked 0 yday. vote erry
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Post by crystal on Jun 13, 2021 15:05:44 GMT
So here I am, and these are my suspicions/reads:
Bath is the first on the list, because of everything that we stated before and his reaction to the accusations, espcially the vote he justified by survivalism, I think it's time we vote him, we have been talking about this since day one
Litt is the "second" one I guess, I don't think their activity at the beggining can justify a town read, and their last vote on bubida, removing the one on bath, made me think it was to protect bath, while they didn't really provide a decent answer
I don't feel safe regarding edj either, he was the first one to vote bubida because of only two posts that weren't really akward, plus he kinda try to pocket me while I said earlier I found him suspicious
I'm not sure about erry and news and bomb, they could be both idk, I would rank them as : erry>bomb>news
For the town side, I'll put animal an ! for now since I don't get scum vibes from them
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Post by crystal on Jun 13, 2021 15:07:15 GMT
So for their reaction during last day I'll vote bath
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Post by Animal Midwife on Jun 13, 2021 17:41:13 GMT
Vote edj
Third time's the charm?
I'm also okay with pressure on bath.
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jun 13, 2021 20:42:29 GMT
So here I am, and these are my suspicions/reads: Bath is the first on the list, because of everything that we stated before and his reaction to the accusations, espcially the vote he justified by survivalism, I think it's time we vote him, we have been talking about this since day one Litt is the "second" one I guess, I don't think their activity at the beggining can justify a town read, and their last vote on bubida, removing the one on bath, made me think it was to protect bath, while they didn't really provide a decent answerI don't feel safe regarding edj either, he was the first one to vote bubida because of only two posts that weren't really akward, plus he kinda try to pocket me while I said earlier I found him suspicious I'm not sure about erry and news and bomb, they could be both idk, I would rank them as : erry>bomb>news For the town side, I'll put animal an ! for now since I don't get scum vibes from them Do you mind actually tell me where I tried to pocket you? Because I'm looking through my posts to try to find that since I don't recall it at all, unless you mean asking for your opinion is equivalent to pocketing. A quote would be pretty nice since frankly I'm not sure what my read is on you and I'd prefer not to have things made up >:/
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Post by Edjeanerations on Jun 13, 2021 20:55:52 GMT
Honestly I think I've done enough protecting bath, if I was here when bath shifted to jeff to save himself I would've shifted to him because I don't know if bath has really done much this game to be seen as an actual townie in my eyes. Reading a d1 gameplay style is completely different now since it's d3 and I haven't seen much of anything from him. I support the pressure but honestly there's enough on him where I'm a little bit suspicious so I'm not gonna hop on his wagon for now.
Also midwife I'm begging you to try to make some other reads and not just tunnel me especially when the only reason you've given for voting me is that I was "antsy" d1. Is that really enough to go off of at this point in the game? I mean at this point it's more just annoying than scummy to me so at least I can say that
Both erry and bomb are in the same boat for me, just not really sure how to feel about them. I'd probably sr erry a bit more over bomb but maybe that's just because bomb at least tls me lmao
Regardless I'm gonna to my best to be here at eod so I can actually analyze and make final votes based off how the day goes, but that's not for a while anyway
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Post by crystal on Jun 13, 2021 21:53:12 GMT
So here I am, and these are my suspicions/reads: Bath is the first on the list, because of everything that we stated before and his reaction to the accusations, espcially the vote he justified by survivalism, I think it's time we vote him, we have been talking about this since day one Litt is the "second" one I guess, I don't think their activity at the beggining can justify a town read, and their last vote on bubida, removing the one on bath, made me think it was to protect bath, while they didn't really provide a decent answerI don't feel safe regarding edj either, he was the first one to vote bubida because of only two posts that weren't really akward, plus he kinda try to pocket me while I said earlier I found him suspicious I'm not sure about erry and news and bomb, they could be both idk, I would rank them as : erry>bomb>news For the town side, I'll put animal an ! for now since I don't get scum vibes from them Do you mind actually tell me where I tried to pocket you? Because I'm looking through my posts to try to find that since I don't recall it at all, unless you mean asking for your opinion is equivalent to pocketing. A quote would be pretty nice since frankly I'm not sure what my read is on you and I'd prefer not to have things made up >:/ Yeah so basically it was just that, I'm new to all the terms in a forum game, I used it as I saw some people used it before, so maybe it wasn't the best one to us here. Tho you "compliment" how I was moving the game while I was putting you on the top of my list. Anyways, it's not my main point on why I put you in my top 3 but here you go
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Post by ForgotToFlush on Jun 13, 2021 22:21:16 GMT
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Post by ❗ on Jun 13, 2021 22:56:26 GMT
So here I am, and these are my suspicions/reads: Bath is the first on the list, because of everything that we stated before and his reaction to the accusations, espcially the vote he justified by survivalism, I think it's time we vote him, we have been talking about this since day one Litt is the "second" one I guess, I don't think their activity at the beggining can justify a town read, and their last vote on bubida, removing the one on bath, made me think it was to protect bath, while they didn't really provide a decent answerI don't feel safe regarding edj either, he was the first one to vote bubida because of only two posts that weren't really akward, plus he kinda try to pocket me while I said earlier I found him suspicious I'm not sure about erry and news and bomb, they could be both idk, I would rank them as : erry>bomb>news For the town side, I'll put animal an ! for now since I don't get scum vibes from them this is cool and all but this is explaining why they are keeping litt as a sr (even though they have not explained why the previous read had been a scumread rather than a nullread ((off something not being townie in their eyes)) ) so it feels way too logically inconsistent, you can defend yourself but at this point it's going to feel like you're just making stuff up vote crystal
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Post by ❗ on Jun 13, 2021 23:03:54 GMT
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Post by erry on Jun 13, 2021 23:55:20 GMT
dan taking the expected approach is fine. sticking to my initial sl, and also bc they talked 0 yday. vote erryI really don't understand the logic from Bath here, overall I've been a lot more active than they have, so if I'm sl because of not talking then I'd say Bath would be even more likely as scum. The point here just feels really contradictory to me Ig based on Bath's own inactivity leading up to this point.
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Post by erry on Jun 13, 2021 23:58:37 GMT
I've also still seen nothing really out of Bath, most all of his statements thus far have been pretty empty, they've mostly been trying to redirect blame off of himself without fully justifying why and he shouldn't be sus other than saying that him being voted is shit. Even his vote the other day didn't even come from his own reads or knowledge, it was done purely as a survivalist tactic, which he even admitted
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Post by erry on Jun 14, 2021 0:01:04 GMT
I listed further reasoning as to why I initially voted him yesterday, but after his further actions yesterday and now today I see even less reason to believe him as town. I'll try to be here eod in case anything drastic changes, but for now Vote Bath
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Post by erry on Jun 14, 2021 0:30:10 GMT
Here are my current thoughts on other people as well btw:
I'm a little sus of Litt rn, I mostly just don't understand why they changed off of Bath last minute, I'd like more insight from them on why they chose to do that because the reasoning they gave d2 kinda got blurred in with everything else and just feels more like an excuse to save Bath at this point. Additionally, Litt has been largely active overall, but yesterday they only began to talk mostly at eod, which feels a bit off putting to me as well because of that sudden shift in their activity
Crystal is still the second mostly likely to be scum imo, only after Bath rn, I also don't understand their reads rn, their reads just largely feel baseless to me, or at least Crystal hasn't explained much behind their reads, like they put AM as town likely today without saying any real reason why other than that they didn't get any "scum vibes" from them, but didn't elaborate further as to why they actually felt that way
Zorquax I feel pretty good about rn, their logic has made sense to me and they've been asking others for thoughts on things too to actually move this forward, which feels like town behavior to me
Still feel like Edj is scum likely for my same reasons as yesterday, especially how the vote on Bath got shifted and they were part of that shift being the only other person to vote bubida by eod
I'd like to see more out of AM and NewsDan, they both feel null to me for the same reason, it feels like they've been going for reads and trying to figure stuff out, but their behavior also leaves a lot of open room, like how AM still hasn't given the best justification for they keep tunneling Edj. I will say I feel a bit better about NewsDan though because, while they have been tunnel Bath since eod yesterday, I can at least see justification behind why they've been doing it while I haven't seen much from AM at all
I'd like to see more from Bomb Moss because they haven't been contributing all that much, so its been hard for me to get a good feel for them thus far. I will say that I feel as though they're slightly sl for me rn because a lot of their reads yesterday were based on feelings or gut reads, even saying "hm. Idk, it's more of a gut read than anything else." to bubida when they were asked to elaborate on something. So overall I'd like to see more contribution from them, both in terms of activity, and in terms of putting more of their thoughts out there instead of just backing up their reads with gut feelings.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jun 14, 2021 1:44:28 GMT
hi I'm here now
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jun 14, 2021 1:49:15 GMT
y'all really do asking for logic and reasoning in a game of 8 pages huh. Asking people for their reasons isn't the only way to provoke AI content y'know.
As far as I can see, there's barely anything substantial to base any reads off, other than people being "generally" townie or "generally" scummy.
I'd also like to call out how "their posts looks townie" or "their logic makes sense" or "I see town intent" is vague enough to be basically fluff. Which is fine when there's nothing else to base your read off but it's not exactly the pinnacle of what makes someone towncore.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jun 14, 2021 1:57:29 GMT
To me, the hallmark of scumtells is trying to look townie without actually doing anything that will produce alignment indicative content. So erry can I raise the counterpoint to you, what would you like to see more from me? Do you just want me to post more so you can read my tone? Or do you want me to start prodding people and chasing reads? Because as far as I can tell, you've not addressed anyone directly for anything. You're throwing reads out there for "I don't like their baseless reads" and "I don't like gut/tone reads" or "their logic is sound". Before I get misconstrued, I don't really care if its right or wrong. But reading people based off their own read logic is just the laziest and inaccurate method to determine alignments. Town and Mafia both have logic. Logic is a universal thing. Logic doesn't separate town from mafia, it's just another vector to approach the game from. Vote erryI don't like your reads, not necessarily because I disagree, but because it feels like a lazy attempt to throw reads out there to "contribute" and be a good townie or whatever. If anyone else has anything specific they want to engage me with, I'm going to be online for the next few hours.
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Post by Bomb Moss on Jun 14, 2021 1:58:27 GMT
Also I'm strongly against voting bath today.
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Post by NewsDan on Jun 14, 2021 2:02:02 GMT
y'all really do asking for logic and reasoning in a game of 8 pages huh. Asking people for their reasons isn't the only way to provoke AI content y'know. As far as I can see, there's barely anything substantial to base any reads off, other than people being "generally" townie or "generally" scummy Ok so uh... would you like to provoke some instead of saying this? Also why u against bath here? Seemed like an obv desperation play
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Post by Animal Midwife on Jun 14, 2021 2:54:03 GMT
I think he seems villagey. The rapid switch from me to someone felt like someone that was actually putting thought into their content without an agenda.
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