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Post by kliff on Jun 16, 2021 12:08:24 GMT
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Vertigo
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 16, 2021 12:09:05 GMT
so unless the scumteam is exactly chaos/wallape/articu, scum is on the cyan wagon im inclined to think that scum wanted to get away from at least one of the gary/vert/chaos wagons but I have nothing substantial to back it up rn gary and vert on the same wagon is probably a red flag in some way but I'm not sure how to interpret it yet Wonder if gary + verti is possible by this based on how ok vertigo was with shifting off gary and onto cyan As far as I can tell people already evoked the possible team of me + gary, and though I was ok shifting off gary please remember that my first and actually real vote i was confident enough for was Cyan, even if he flipped town. Was expecting the GTS flip to give some informations to look into Cyan's alignment, but people shifted so easily on Cyan that it wouldn't change the outcome anyway if I stayed on GTS, as the shifts were like 10 minutes before deadline. I already told how GTS flip could help us to look at Cyan's alignment, but the other way around is also true. Scum would expect us to vote GTS here no matter if he is scum or town. I think the real deal is looking at other slots, and not making assumptions based on relationships with GTS since it could be biased. Still have my locktowns of wape and quo, will look at fort and chaos isos more thoroughly later bc I need to sleep.
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Post by kliff on Jun 16, 2021 12:13:37 GMT
I'll be going back to the Drawing Board
I am leaning Vertigo here
Posts will come out slow today
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Post by kliff on Jun 16, 2021 13:31:47 GMT
I don’t think cyan wagon looked scum motivated, Perhaps Town sink themeselves with that vote. The only thing I can think of is maybe a hidden motive to avoid vertigo\ Gary Lynch. When did vertigo show up? Perhaps they had teammates to alert him that he was about to be lynched.
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Vertigo
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 16, 2021 14:17:43 GMT
I don’t think cyan wagon looked scum motivated, Perhaps Town sink themeselves with that vote. The only thing I can think of is maybe a hidden motive to avoid vertigo\ Gary Lynch. When did vertigo show up? Perhaps they had teammates to alert him that he was about to be lynched. I showed about at the same time as I did on Day 2, tho I was not even voted at that point so that's pointless. I just came near the end of the day because I found some time, that's it.
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Post by kliff on Jun 16, 2021 14:24:14 GMT
With vert no longer being afk, and his responses being rather satisfactory, I think I'm going to Unvote: Vertigo Vote: Chaostrodon Vertigo v fort could be SvS
!scumFort could of been looking for a reason to escape his weak bus attempted on !scumVertigo if Fort found an opportunity
to do so.The “with vert no longer afk and his responses being satisfactory “ Seems unnatural.
The vote Transition is also something to look into.
Will look into this possibility when I get home. But what are your guys thoughts?
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Post by wallape on Jun 16, 2021 14:31:44 GMT
guess my q got ignored :pensive:
I wouldn't rule out chaos/Gary just yet because it can still make sense from a scum!Chaos perspective, but he wouldn't be the first person I lynched if gary flips since not much in his iso is really scummy. The only things I can see is his lack of casing Gary in the earlier stages of the game and forming reads based more on tone than set in stone stuff, which makes it hard to refute his reads.
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Post by kliff on Jun 16, 2021 14:47:18 GMT
wallape could you update us on your town reads? Don’t think I seen much of that at all?
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Post by wallape on Jun 16, 2021 15:08:25 GMT
Quo/Sky are pretty much town pool, kinda town lean arti for a tonal read, Fort's first few days were good but ppl are bringing up his previous vote on cyan so i'll have to look into that. Vertigo is still townlean from my D2 reason, which i know is wifom but i stand by it... mainly because there really hasn't been much else said by vertigo so far. I consider his lurking NAI, but I don't blame people who say that his lurking makes him scummy.
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 16, 2021 18:05:53 GMT
chaostrodon what do you do when I flip town? Most, if not all of you reads and pools bank off of the assumption I flip scum
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:26:45 GMT
whats up nerds
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:27:19 GMT
i spent my entire day playing minecraft until my eyes hurt and will properly read the thread tomorrow. Until then:
i feel like a gary lynch on the basis that he's been wagoned so often and not died is just as bad of a mistake as lynching vert for not posting chaos if gary got godkilled today for blasphemy against leprechauns who do you lynch? I want to see things from you that aren't just "who could be gary partners???"
someone mentioned quo+vert at eod yesterday and i will scrutinize that when I wake up.
wow thank you this is revolutionary :v
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:29:04 GMT
gary is probably not partners with wape given the last page tbh
but I thought wape was town to begin with
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:30:05 GMT
i have signatures set to hidden but I can still see them
tragic
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:31:30 GMT
the thing is chaos thinks I'm partners with wape. Still don't know why sfl was blindsided. Also a misvote and a kill here and tm is lylo kek. Who is the third partner in that pool then? I have a feeling gary is entertaining this line in particular as scum because he knows he is not partners with wallape and thus feels better at defending against that specific charge
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:33:23 GMT
so i'd like to ask why we're not putting pressure on chaos :/ who has very neatly ignored me i noticed both quojova and @fortcolors voting them and then unvoting which was sufficiently disturbing although i may be tunnelling by now, i'd still like to hear chaos responding to my posts where did he ignore you why do you think chaos is scum (just a quote here from a previous post of yours is fine) is there a particular reason either of us would vote then unvote chaos as scum like are you thinking a partnered pair there? or something else
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:35:42 GMT
Honestly , at this point I would rather a fortcolors vote than Gary. He might be pushing the counterwagon every time to protect scum!Gary as I am thinking or he might doing it to keep Gary vs Me and the dwindling group of people against Gary fight going on probably if gary is scum at least one of fort or sky are partnered with him because I don't find the gary-kliff scumteam very appealing if I were to eliminate the possibility of a gary-sky team I would be very on board with this what do you think about a gary-sky team?
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:37:32 GMT
With vert no longer being afk, and his responses being rather satisfactory, I think I'm going to Unvote: Vertigo Vote: Chaostrodon Vertigo v fort could be SvS
!scumFort could of been looking for a reason to escape his weak bus attempted on !scumVertigo if Fort found an opportunity
to do so.The “with vert no longer afk and his responses being satisfactory “ Seems unnatural.
The vote Transition is also something to look into.
Will look into this possibility when I get home. But what are your guys thoughts?its plausible
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 16, 2021 18:38:15 GMT
gary is probably not partners with wape given the last page tbh but I thought wape was town to begin with once again, why is wape town?
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:39:00 GMT
don't ask me to make a readslist rn though because I have no idea I'm still pretty sure wallape is town he just has the strongest early days by far imo; having a heavy presence in the thread that demonstrates a higher interest in solving than appearance part of my confidence here is because wallape is new to forum .
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 16, 2021 18:40:08 GMT
If quo were to flip, verti would too. Third scum there being sky/arti likely
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:40:19 GMT
don't ask me to make a readslist rn though because I have no idea I'm still pretty sure wallape is town he just has the strongest early days by far imo; having a heavy presence in the thread that demonstrates a higher interest in solving than appearance part of my confidence here is because wallape is new to forum . it kinda has to do with the totality of his posts rather than any specific detail every post he makes just fits in with a town who is trying to consider all perspectives and arriving at their own conclusions I could probably quote a bunch of small things here if I wanted but rn I want to do other things
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 16, 2021 18:41:19 GMT
okay, what makes his early days strong
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:44:07 GMT
+++ wallape
++ kliff
+ chaos sky
- fort articu vert
-- gary
the thing here is that vert and gary are probably not partnered
so either the scumteam is exactly fort+gary+articu or fort+vert+articu or my townleans/reads contains some scum
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 18:50:09 GMT
if I were to make an argument for wallape it would be that vert+wallape is very appealing
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