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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 4:30:44 GMT
the most natural gary partners would probably be fort or sky
the most natural vert partner would probably be chaos
maybe gary + vert? there are things pointing strongly for and against this one
still trying to think of likely teams that don't have gary or vert though because I don't want to collapse this into gary v vert necessarily yet
the gary wagon feels like it has more open possibilities
although articu can be in any scumteam which messes with the calculations
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 4:35:55 GMT
im going to sleep soon
i would like everyone to post a fairly broad range of thoughts with the next 24 hours if possible because we want things that are not entirely centered around gary or vert to happen this phase i think
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 4:42:21 GMT
and @@articuknight
can you bring the heat this phase
that would be really epic
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 16, 2021 4:46:13 GMT
Gary the savage(4)*:Chaostrodon, Vertigo,kliff - cyan and penguin said they would lynch gary if he didn't have 4 votes
*wallape shifted off late
ok so this is the main reason why we thought the pressure on gary was p much overwhelming. cyan and pd we know are town. wallape shifting off late then returning to hard pressuring gary seems townie to me or at the very least crosses out a gary/wall pair. chaos has been on gary for 3 days straight so probably cross out chaos/gary pair too.
so ok yea i guess looking back the wagon buildup doesn't make gary look AS townie, it does leave kliff/vert tho which is a pair i've found scummier than gary himself which means the wagon composition doesn't totally nullify the town points for gary for me. originally i wasn't confident with the gary lynch cuz i didn't buy ppls arguments on him. the d2 wagon build up only made that stronger, and my gary tr just gradually strengthened as the discussion around him became more polarizing.
my gut still tells me gary is townie and tbh the only reason why the gary cws seem to be getting scummier and scummier is bc ppl who were part of the anti-gary movement are just dying off so obv the other side is gonna outnumber them.
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 16, 2021 4:53:21 GMT
but while i am not fully convinced gary is scum yet, it is still probably in town's best interest to lynch him cuz 1.) i can simply just be wrong abt my read and 2.) whether he flips town or scum makes solving the game so much easier
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 4:54:43 GMT
Gary the savage(4)*:Chaostrodon, Vertigo,kliff - cyan and penguin said they would lynch gary if he didn't have 4 votes *wallape shifted off late ok so this is the main reason why we thought the pressure on gary was p much overwhelming. cyan and pd we know are town. wallape shifting off late then returning to hard pressuring gary seems townie to me or at the very least crosses out a gary/wall pair. chaos has been on gary for 3 days straight so probably cross out chaos/gary pair too. so ok yea i guess looking back the wagon buildup doesn't make gary look AS townie, it does leave kliff/vert tho which is a pair i've found scummier than gary himself which means the wagon composition doesn't totally nullify the town points for gary for me. originally i wasn't confident with the gary lynch cuz i didn't buy ppls arguments on him. the d2 wagon build up only made that stronger, and my gary tr just gradually strengthened as the discussion around him became more polarizing. my gut still tells me gary is townie and tbh the only reason why the gary cws seem to be getting scummier and scummier is bc ppl who were part of the anti-gary movement are just dying off so obv the other side is gonna outnumber them. can you try to convince me a bit more here like maybe try as much as you can to put that gut feeling into words to me atm polarization of discussion does not really logically flow into why exactly your tr on him grew is there a reason you've avoided looking at gary's actual lines for the most part so far
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 4:56:36 GMT
ok fine ill shift to cyan. i get how people dont like the vertigo lynch because he has too few content but i dont get how he makes the town side of the lists of kliff and quo but while i am not fully convinced gary is scum yet, it is still probably in town's best interest to lynch him cuz 1.) i can simply just be wrong abt my read and 2.) whether he flips town or scum makes solving the game so much easier there's a trend here and im not entirely sure what to make of it that's tomorrow work though
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 4:57:19 GMT
ok i thought i could avoid the big pacman if i capitalized the v testing
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Post by quojova on Jun 16, 2021 4:57:47 GMT
dang i really cant post my v faces in peace then
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 16, 2021 5:39:25 GMT
Gary the savage(4)*:Chaostrodon, Vertigo,kliff - cyan and penguin said they would lynch gary if he didn't have 4 votes *wallape shifted off late ok so this is the main reason why we thought the pressure on gary was p much overwhelming. cyan and pd we know are town. wallape shifting off late then returning to hard pressuring gary seems townie to me or at the very least crosses out a gary/wall pair. chaos has been on gary for 3 days straight so probably cross out chaos/gary pair too. so ok yea i guess looking back the wagon buildup doesn't make gary look AS townie, it does leave kliff/vert tho which is a pair i've found scummier than gary himself which means the wagon composition doesn't totally nullify the town points for gary for me. originally i wasn't confident with the gary lynch cuz i didn't buy ppls arguments on him. the d2 wagon build up only made that stronger, and my gary tr just gradually strengthened as the discussion around him became more polarizing. my gut still tells me gary is townie and tbh the only reason why the gary cws seem to be getting scummier and scummier is bc ppl who were part of the anti-gary movement are just dying off so obv the other side is gonna outnumber them. can you try to convince me a bit more here like maybe try as much as you can to put that gut feeling into words to me atm polarization of discussion does not really logically flow into why exactly your tr on him grew is there a reason you've avoided looking at gary's actual lines for the most part so far i mean it's not like i actively avoided it i would still put them into consideration when i would read the thread as a whole, even then he's never said anything that would sway my opinion on him otherwise, have u? i mean like what are the cases people have on gary now.. there was the indecisive stuff and lynching wallape while sring cyan thing and i've said how i've interpreted those, and then there's the him being constantly saved from being lynched. the only person on those wagons who i havent at least townleaned is probably just articoo. ultimately this is just me not being convinced by anyone else
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 16, 2021 5:40:17 GMT
ok fine ill shift to cyan. i get how people dont like the vertigo lynch because he has too few content but i dont get how he makes the town side of the lists of kliff and quo but while i am not fully convinced gary is scum yet, it is still probably in town's best interest to lynch him cuz 1.) i can simply just be wrong abt my read and 2.) whether he flips town or scum makes solving the game so much easier there's a trend here and im not entirely sure what to make of it that's tomorrow work though i think the trend is me not getting the vertigo lynch i want
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 16, 2021 9:47:03 GMT
i spent my entire day playing minecraft until my eyes hurt and will properly read the thread tomorrow. Until then:
i feel like a gary lynch on the basis that he's been wagoned so often and not died is just as bad of a mistake as lynching vert for not posting chaos if gary got godkilled today for blasphemy against leprechauns who do you lynch? I want to see things from you that aren't just "who could be gary partners???"
someone mentioned quo+vert at eod yesterday and i will scrutinize that when I wake up.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 16, 2021 9:48:10 GMT
i guess you can also use that to stop seeing my picture but i think until we stop having lurkers its important to see it every time i post
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 16, 2021 10:00:04 GMT
chaos if gary got godkilled today for blasphemy against leprechauns who do you lynch? I want to see things from you that aren't just "who could be gary partners???" on this train of thought, chaos, since you seem to think scum is mostly actives, give me your argument, preferably with quotes, for how gary or (teammate) has been "hardcore influencing the game" btw the point of lynching lurkers early isn't because we want to accidentally hit scum. I specifically called my penguin lynch a policy lynch for a reason. The point of lynching lurkers early is so that we don't end up in mylo/lylo with lurkers that we can't read because they have a total of 20 empty posts. The later the game goes on, the more posts there's been to read active people off of. I refuse to entertain the thought of lurkscum winning a game I'm in again. The last time I let someone like that slip by to lylo, he was scum and won a game he basically didn't play. I would rather lose to an active player than even risk allowing scum!cayden to win again.
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 16, 2021 10:01:46 GMT
the thing is chaos thinks I'm partners with wape. Still don't know why sfl was blindsided. Also a misvote and a kill here and tm is lylo
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 16, 2021 10:13:19 GMT
I said you could be partners with wallape. I havent seen anything suggesting the idea or against the idea
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 16, 2021 10:19:43 GMT
kek. Who is the third partner in that pool then?
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 16, 2021 10:25:42 GMT
i spent my entire day playing minecraft until my eyes hurt and will properly read the thread tomorrow. Until then:
i feel like a gary lynch on the basis that he's been wagoned so often and not died is just as bad of a mistake as lynching vert for not posting chaos if gary got godkilled today for blasphemy against leprechauns who do you lynch? I want to see things from you that aren't just "who could be gary partners???"
someone mentioned quo+vert at eod yesterday and i will scrutinize that when I wake up.
I would be lynching you You and quojova are the ones that are derailing the vote from Gary and onto someone else everytime. Your Cyan Talon lynch made no sense. And the PenguinD thing might be a farce as well
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Post by articunight on Jun 16, 2021 10:41:09 GMT
so i'd like to ask why we're not putting pressure on chaos :/ who has very neatly ignored me i noticed both quojova and @fortcolors voting them and then unvoting which was sufficiently disturbing although i may be tunnelling by now, i'd still like to hear chaos responding to my posts
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Post by wallape on Jun 16, 2021 10:43:17 GMT
I said you could be partners with wallape. I havent seen anything suggesting the idea or against the idea We have had a gazillion interactions and you still don't have a stance on if im gary partner or not?
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 16, 2021 10:51:59 GMT
i spent my entire day playing minecraft until my eyes hurt and will properly read the thread tomorrow. Until then:
i feel like a gary lynch on the basis that he's been wagoned so often and not died is just as bad of a mistake as lynching vert for not posting chaos if gary got godkilled today for blasphemy against leprechauns who do you lynch? I want to see things from you that aren't just "who could be gary partners???"
someone mentioned quo+vert at eod yesterday and i will scrutinize that when I wake up.
I would be lynching you You and quojova are the ones that are derailing the vote from Gary and onto someone else everytime. Your Cyan Talon lynch made no sense. And the PenguinD thing might be a farce as well so is it me quo and fort then?
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Post by wallape on Jun 16, 2021 11:02:12 GMT
I said you could be partners with wallape. I havent seen anything suggesting the idea or against the idea We have had a gazillion interactions and you still don't have a stance on if im gary partner or not? You were actually pushing this a few days why r u backtracking now and saying there is nothing suggesting or against the idea now!!
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 16, 2021 11:25:01 GMT
What are you talking about? Ive literally never pushed you. All Ive said is I havent removed the possibility of you being Gary partner
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 16, 2021 11:26:02 GMT
so i'd like to ask why we're not putting pressure on chaos :/ who has very neatly ignored me i noticed both quojova and @fortcolors voting them and then unvoting which was sufficiently disturbing although i may be tunnelling by now, i'd still like to hear chaos responding to my posts What posts
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 16, 2021 11:58:40 GMT
Honestly , at this point I would rather a fortcolors vote than Gary. He might be pushing the counterwagon every time to protect scum!Gary as I am thinking or he might doing it to keep Gary vs Me and the dwindling group of people against Gary fight going on
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