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Post by wallape on Jun 8, 2021 16:36:40 GMT
honestly after reading cyan's full argument I think I agree. I also want to look at gary for trying to dismiss ddlc as a trolling townie. I don't think town benefits from making baseless assumptions and then making claims/votes/reads based on those assumptions. That's not meme filler, that's bad play that attempts to lead the town into a bad perspective. Then, when pressured about it, he went into full meme mode while still trying to offload attention from himself kliff any thoughts? You've been a convenient total of 5 shitposts and then went dead silent. I get what you mean here and ya know I didnt think before I posted this but I was trying to establish myself as a shitposter who was also trying to lead town. Did I try to shift attention from myself tho? From a your mom joke? really? I dont see It and I dont want to keep trying to be "self aware" as Cyan calls it but I just want you to think about why if a scum was trying to be very actuve to fool town, that they would do it in this way? I would buy this if you had actual content prior to being pressured by me/cyan. Also don't think cyan meant that you were removing attention from urself by saying "ur mom", but rather the "your mom" served as a way to dismiss an argument made against you. Also for the last point I think its possible that you just found it difficult to draw conclusions since this is d1 after all, and scum having the most knowledge its difficult to fake being genuine, which is why you might have shitposted. Even now, I don't see you drawing conclusions or reading someone explicitly as scum, ur read progression on Vertigo/Kliff is really difficult to figure out because of how a large amount of your posts have been shitposts. On that note, why do you TR Vertigo? |
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Post by quojova on Jun 8, 2021 16:37:59 GMT
this post screams defensive obsession with self-image to me I'm not actually sure what gary's post is doing there... maybe he could explain |
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Post by wallape on Jun 8, 2021 16:40:22 GMT
btw @fortcolors I think by wallpaper inputs i think he meant wallape inputs because wallape autocorrects to wallpaper quite often. I also forgot to mention this in my last post but @ddlc there is literally Dialga vibing with its time control and palkia vibing in space. I see palkia smacking lions from space while lions do nothing to get up there
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Post by wallape on Jun 8, 2021 16:55:59 GMT
I do indeed agree with most of these posts accept that ppl are putting all the pressure on to me and vertigo, then transversly on to cyan for when im town. I kinda want to look more into ppl who have defended me like you and gary and sky cuz while i appreciate the defense I cant help but wonder that it will be a great self image for them that they defended me then I flipped town and poor cyan who poured his heart and soul into a garbage push will now be scapegoated because of it. Honestly I tr penguin and Vertigo and even tho penguin is pushing me for literally no reason other then sheeping I dont think they would vote me if they were scum unless they were trying to protect wallape/cyan who had equal votes to me at the time but I doubt it. This post gives me good vibes i just can't explain why exactly. The way he thinks ahead about what happens if he flips town is good, and its not like he's getting overly aggressive at cyan/ is pushing him hard just because cyan is pushing him but rather seems to think he's just pushing the wrong read here. Feel like a lot of scum get agitated in this situation and just hard OMGUS but I like that ddlc is not doing that. On the other hand i find it really difficult to see his read progression like i said earlier. I think a full out read list to see where you stand right now would be considering a lot of ur current day was spent defending urself. ddlcfan69 overall: ddlc is giving me more reasons to ul him but there's still stuff i want him to clarify before being convinced that he's not the lynch for today |
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Post by wallape on Jun 8, 2021 16:57:20 GMT
i messed up that quote as well gg, but that was said by ddlc and not kliff
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Post by quojova on Jun 8, 2021 17:05:31 GMT
probably at something like this rn (not ordered):
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articunight
Gary the Savage
thinking about which ones to elaborate on and who I even want to hang
I need to reread fort
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Post by wallape on Jun 8, 2021 17:06:00 GMT
This post gives me good vibes i just can't explain why exactly. The way he thinks ahead about what happens if he flips town is good, and its not like he's getting overly aggressive at cyan/ is pushing him hard just because cyan is pushing him but rather seems to think he's just pushing the wrong read here. Feel like a lot of scum get agitated in this situation and just hard OMGUS but I like that ddlc is not doing that. On the other hand i find it really difficult to see his read progression like i said earlier. I think a full out read list to see where you stand right now would be considering a lot of ur current day was spent defending urself. ddlcfan69 overall: ddlc is giving me more reasons to ul him but there's still stuff i want him to clarify before being convinced that he's not the lynch for today following up on this a bit more bc i think i just realized that the way he phrased it makes me think that he wants to evaluate the TRs that people are giving him bc he thinks that it might be scummy which is not something scum does too much. |
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Post by wallape on Jun 8, 2021 17:12:00 GMT
Im heading to sleep soon hopefully ill be up a bit b4 dl ill prolly decide vote based on tonight's content/replies
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Post by cyan on Jun 8, 2021 17:18:35 GMT
when tf did chaos vote gary lol he has like 7 posts just go to his profile and look for "member's recent posts" smh friendly tip: you can use the search function on this forum to browse posts made by a specific username too. it's iso but you can look for key words and stuff
My Take on Articunight
Not a bad late entranced, I didn't like some points but it just a starter post. POST|
Vote seemed Well Chosen
Need more post from player but This slot does seem like a low poster town atm.
articunight any Follow up on the Gary Vote?
My Take on Gary The Savage
Fantastic takes: POST POST
Despite Seemly looking into a small pool of players They kinda repeatedly emphasizes that they are Uncertain. Ex. POST.
That's my take. Nothing Town convincing here
Gary The Savage Could I have your 2nd opinion on penguin. I am kinda leaning they are maf
...what exactly is your gary take? They have 2 fantastic takes and are repeatedly uncertain, which means... nullread? Is that your take? and in a wonderful twist of fate the indecisiveness that plagued gary's slot has spread to one of the people bringing him up. this kind of wishy-washy reading is common for scum but isn't necessarily scummymy argument was never about whether or not we could trust ddlc. just to restate my points: - ddlc started off this game with passive-aggressive meme filler - ddlc has repeatedly shut down discussion angles involving him with attacks on the pushers' credibility - ddlc has been showing an unnatural amount of self-image awareness with his responses to people's votes and how he tries to portray himself as townie as for partners, i've suggested the ddlc + vertigo pairing ever since like page 4 of this forum skyfigueroa since you were asking for a case on ddlc earlier you're free to use this post as reference Has anything changed on your take on that pairing since day 4? I don't quite see the pairing, so you'll have to enlighten me. Have their responses cemented it further for you? i've gained a slight reason to pursue verti in isolation, but other than that i don't think there's much going on about it. ddlc's main rebuttals have been focused on how i'm figuratively stretching everything; if there's any unfinished discussion relating to vertigo+ddlc please bring it to my attentionHonestly the third point is probably the most important, scum need to prove credibility, townies can be genuine from the start and would honestly be the most damning point for a scum ddlc but i do want to see ddlc responding to cyan before i switch my votes So after seeing gary's recent posts i'm thinking towards a TL on them, i lean neutral to sl on ddlc partly due to the wagon being overly stable(if scum i'll be assuming a bus) under the idea that scum would offer more diversions from the wagon. Vertigo: "I'll repeat myself, but : playing suboptimally is not prohibited, and by being an actual strategy we have to consider the eventuality of it, factoring my recent discussion about it with FortColors" this is...weird are you implying that scum ddlc would vote their scum partner on d1, in this case you(albeit kliff is being voted by them rn)? this is a weird scumslip if ddlc reveals as scum at eod i am slightly afraid that we're hyperfocusing on ddlc on day 1 though so I like the safe idea of poking saltiestcactus23 for lurking/idling bbcode is a pain unvote: gary the savage Vote: saltiestcactus23 quite frankly i think the reason the wagon was "overly stable" was 17 hours of no posts from ddlc, giving people no reason to move off. would you be interested in shifting to penguin as a the lurker pressure? someone else mentioned that sc23 probably just gets subbed out while penguin's done his bare minimum and dipped.
i kind of like the activity awareness fort has here to not want to pursue true afks in favour of potentially lurking slots, but also marking both as lower priority than other discussion points no, not really. the concept itself is kinda weak tbh but i stand by it anyway i use yellow as my highlighter, please suggest better colour shades for that at this point i would rather you follow Kliff's example and just capitalize random things and use font size as a highlighter but colours are prettyonce again, check my responses in cyani just woke up and i think i slept with my glasses on (bad idea with massive astigmatism prescription) so they hurt. I'll be fine in an hour and will start closereading then. For now, gary seems defensive and is my biggest FoS. My vote stays on sc23 until he posts. uh. ddlc hasn't turned around because he hasn't posted. at all. since What I meant was that his string of posts on page 7 does not show very much intention to solve. The best I can see there is ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/76454, but it is pretty unsubstantial. on ddlc in general I'm torn because I really like how comfortable he feels in the game (I mean he has no filter, which I think is good) but I'm not seeing evidence that he actually wants to find mafia. Should that be read as town who prioritizes fun and living over winning? Should it be read as scum who wants to engage as much as possible but is too anxious to give reasoning? Neither is really how I would play, but after looking back I lean the former due to a few things. I actually find what I said in ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/76296 to be reasonably compelling, I don't think mafia while checking the thread themselves is ever very likely at all to think another player being online could be construed as scummy. He is so certain of his innocence. I know cyan looks at the 2nd and 3rd post of page 7 and thinks "wow he's really trying hard to be town" (paraphrased) but to me I like that he thinks he can just bash his head at the accusations thrown at him and things will work out, in a way I don't see maf!ddlc having the confidence to do. Sort of reminds me of how I played my first game. tbh this is not a reason to read ddlc one way or the other but I have a lot more confidence that I will be able to narrow in on ddlc's alignment in future days than like penguind so I'm probably not voting there today unless he starts singing the mafia national anthem this is admittedly an interesting take on ddlc's playstyle so far. i'd have to disagree on a gut feeling level, but i think it's valid and can stand on its own as an explanation for his behaviour even then, it's just weird to me that ddlc's defensive playstyle involves trying to make his opposition's cases appear to be weak more than trying to weaken the opposition's cases (he does make an effort at the latter in his callout attempt on the "your mom" aspect of everything and that's about it) |
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Post by cyan on Jun 8, 2021 17:26:46 GMT
i'd also like to take a bit of your time to introduce you to another potential wagon focus: kliff. notice the following posts I said scum pocketing a scum partner is unlikely, not scum pocketing a townie. And I mean ig ur right scum don't *need* to pocket each other but I've seen ppl do that on ps maf and it worked out decently well, since if one scum flips scum then town may think the pocketed person is town! Still its a rare occurrence and I dont think thats whagt would happen now Why do u sr kliff? All you've talked about kliff is sod post which was supposed to be a meme. ScumLOCK for saying lions would win btw. We Still on this? so, general takeaways: quojova and chaostrodon are town. i like the depth of the discussions they're driving forward; they seem to be putting a good amount of thought into the game and it comes off as natural vertigo gets a FoS based on his reaction to this post: feels kinda dismissive of quojova's questions by far and away the more important vote is ddlcfan69, his actions and mindset in early d1 haven't shown signs of changing as of now
Is your Argument more of the fact that ddlcfan69 can not be trusted? If you believe that ddlcfan69 is a goon, Who would be their likely partners. They are a lot of mixed opinions on ddlcfan69
like I don't think there's any reason to shift as mafia there if you don't find your own case to be reasonably compelling what I'm wondering about is your reasoning for why the shift is bad in a scum-indicative way a majority of kliff's interactive posts have been asking one-line questions on clarifying other players' positions. these types of posts don't actually contribute much towards scumhunting and i kinda think kliff would know that? also, the fact that kliff's reads are being served in the form of a read wall instead of through direct engagement in discussion is kinda weird to me. i'm not sure if they're approaching the game from a third-party perspective or are trying to avoid being personally involved in deeper stuff. also, it's a lot easier to be passive when posting read walls |
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Post by articunight on Jun 8, 2021 17:29:33 GMT
Honestly the third point is probably the most important, scum need to prove credibility, townies can be genuine from the start and would honestly be the most damning point for a scum ddlc but i do want to see ddlc responding to cyan before i switch my votes So after seeing gary's recent posts i'm thinking towards a TL on them, i lean neutral to sl on ddlc partly due to the wagon being overly stable(if scum i'll be assuming a bus) under the idea that scum would offer more diversions from the wagon. Vertigo: "I'll repeat myself, but : playing suboptimally is not prohibited, and by being an actual strategy we have to consider the eventuality of it, factoring my recent discussion about it with FortColors" this is...weird are you implying that scum ddlc would vote their scum partner on d1, in this case you(albeit kliff is being voted by them rn)? this is a weird scumslip if ddlc reveals as scum at eod i am slightly afraid that we're hyperfocusing on ddlc on day 1 though so I like the safe idea of poking saltiestcactus23 for lurking/idling bbcode is a pain unvote: gary the savage Vote: saltiestcactus23 quite frankly i think the reason the wagon was "overly stable" was 17 hours of no posts from ddlc, giving people no reason to move off. would you be interested in shifting to penguin as a the lurker pressure? someone else mentioned that sc23 probably just gets subbed out while penguin's done his bare minimum and dipped.
typing in forums is hard idm shifting from sc23(not 43 :pensive:) to penguin but that might shift the weight from ddlc more than i want. current thoughts: A: Why are you Fos'ing on gary? // i didn't understand it. is it them being uncertain? but that would qualify as a townslip, since certainty is often correlatable to being the minority with info B: I really want to see ddlc defend against cyan's 3 point agenda post C: Switching between peng/sc isn't an issue, i still want to gather reactions since i haven't played with most of you :^ D: I should make a votecount whenever i post since god its confusing to not have that accessibly General reads: tl on cyan and gary rn, gary's may be subject to change if fortcolors has a sizable reason cyan's is primarily since i can understand the logic behind their push slight sl on peng, slightly larger sl on ddlc i suppose though i'm still miffed how the only way of getting attention on other players is wagoning onto penguin :/ i do agree ddlc is trying way too hard to be a town, but as we associate that with being a pr too we might just be poking a pr claim out on day 1 which would suck i will hard sr anyone who tries to jump from ddlc to whichever wagon of note is around rn(i think its just peng? and some 2-vote wagons?) i can't...figure out how to quote multiple people so um bear with me ; In reference to kliff just a couple notes post many of the points don't make sense to me, although i'm glad the penguin tr thing was pointed out(weird as all hell, might be scum spew, might be a random attempt to divert attention) why was cyan getting on ddlc weird, could you explain that while keeping in mind the current state of the game as compared to only the first post? considering that it was very early game there isn't necessarily much logic behind each vote. I'm assuming the teammates think alike thing was in reference to a possible scumteam of cyan+chaostrodon but again, people grasping on to the same point kinda makes that iffy in my opinion. other ramblings: currently my votepool probably has ddlc and penguin albeit i'm not voting either rn, i would also like to see a bit of pressure on quojova/kliff to seal a tl or uncover an sl i am curious on your reads so far and would love an elaboration quojova since i'm having some difficulty in seeing who you're voting rn(or want to vote rn), although the votecount showed a vote from you on chaostrodon. |
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Post by cyan on Jun 8, 2021 17:33:09 GMT
I do indeed agree with most of these posts accept that ppl are putting all the pressure on to me and vertigo, then transversly on to cyan for when im town. I kinda want to look more into ppl who have defended me like you and gary and sky cuz while i appreciate the defense I cant help but wonder that it will be a great self image for them that they defended me then I flipped town and poor cyan who poured his heart and soul into a garbage push will now be scapegoated because of it. Honestly I tr penguin and Vertigo and even tho penguin is pushing me for literally no reason other then sheeping I dont think they would vote me if they were scum unless they were trying to protect wallape/cyan who had equal votes to me at the time but I doubt it. decluttering this post because being passive-aggressive also means being unclear and everyone appreciates clarity: ddlc's take here is that the people defending him are worth looking into, as they may be using his hypothetical townflip as cred points. while i'd have to disagree on gary's front for this one (gary's main read attribute has been less about defending ddlc and more about shakily doing so), it's a fair statement; problem is it leads us nowhere in the present moment that being said, why do you tr vertigo? i may have missed that. did he push you? |
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Post by cyan on Jun 8, 2021 17:42:38 GMT
quite frankly i think the reason the wagon was "overly stable" was 17 hours of no posts from ddlc, giving people no reason to move off. would you be interested in shifting to penguin as a the lurker pressure? someone else mentioned that sc23 probably just gets subbed out while penguin's done his bare minimum and dipped.
typing in forums is hard try using a computer. it works wonders
idm shifting from sc23(not 43 :pensive:) to penguin but that might shift the weight from ddlc more than i want. current thoughts: A: Why are you Fos'ing on gary? // i didn't understand it. is it them being uncertain? but that would qualify as a townslip, since certainty is often correlatable to being the minority with info whether or not certainty (or lack thereof) dictates alignment is heavily dependent on meta, actually. some players (e.g. spiderz) will push their reads with resolute conviction:tm: whereas others might take things more slowly. also, scum will tend to fake uncertainty in order to seem town, so there's the wifom element to this too, but there's a difference between a town going "eh, wait, hold on, maybe..." and a scum going "eh, nyeh, eugh, maybe...."
B: I really want to see ddlc defend against cyan's 3 point agenda post C: Switching between peng/sc isn't an issue, i still want to gather reactions since i haven't played with most of you :^ kinda wish you'd address the reasoning behind the proposal a little more
saltcac has yet to post once throughout this entire day, and is probably getting subbed out within the near future. peng has posted five low-commitment remarks, but is probably not likely to be subbed out. the point of fort asking was to shift that pressure towards someone you could get results from
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 8, 2021 18:10:24 GMT
Is your Argument more of the fact that ddlcfan69 can not be trusted? If you believe that ddlcfan69 is a goon, Who would be their likely partners. They are a lot of mixed opinions on ddlcfan69
my argument was never about whether or not we could trust ddlc. just to restate my points: - ddlc started off this game with passive-aggressive meme filler - ddlc has repeatedly shut down discussion angles involving him with attacks on the pushers' credibility - ddlc has been showing an unnatural amount of self-image awareness with his responses to people's votes and how he tries to portray himself as townie as for partners, i've suggested the ddlc + vertigo pairing ever since like page 4 of this forumskyfigueroa since you were asking for a case on ddlc earlier you're free to use this post as reference What about it right now ? Glad you brought it up but it ended up dying very fast. Any new elements that may make you think this pairing is still valid ? |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 8, 2021 18:10:32 GMT
this post screams defensive obsession with self-image to me I'm not actually sure what gary's post is doing there... maybe he could explain Literally what is "fake town" is what its tryna say. Town is town, scum is scum. And I don't get why fort uses it as something of defensive obsession and self-image when wape wasn't even describing me there. Secondly, not once have I said ddlc is certainly town. And if any other user were to do as I explained earlier, I'd say the same thing, just as I have in previous games |
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Post by quojova on Jun 8, 2021 18:16:14 GMT
I'm not actually sure what gary's post is doing there... maybe he could explain Literally what is "fake town" is what its tryna say. Town is town, scum is scum. And I don't get why fort uses it as something of defensive obsession and self-image when wape wasn't even describing me there. Secondly, not once have I said ddlc is certainly town. And if any other user were to do as I explained earlier, I'd say the same thing, just as I have in previous games yea ok I was thinking that was all there was to it |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 8, 2021 18:19:33 GMT
and as kliff asked for.... Regarding user PenguinD: Penguin could easily be scum. They've had 2 posts about ddlc pmeta, an rvs vote, telling someone they're in the wrong game, and iioa. That's it. Now as previously established, pmeta should not be used in any way and they honestly hopped ontp the ddlc wagon withput a real reason. Now I know I have been saying I don't tr ddlc but tbh, the growth of his wagon based mostly on his uselessness does make him appear townie to me. |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 8, 2021 18:19:51 GMT
Im back bb the drive resumes...
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 8, 2021 18:20:36 GMT
the first point is the least important one, but it's probably worth considering nonetheless Honestly the third point is probably the most important, scum need to prove credibility, townies can be genuine from the start and would honestly be the most damning point for a scum ddlc but i do want to see ddlc responding to cyan before i switch my votes So after seeing gary's recent posts i'm thinking towards a TL on them, i lean neutral to sl on ddlc partly due to the wagon being overly stable(if scum i'll be assuming a bus) under the idea that scum would offer more diversions from the wagon. Vertigo: "I'll repeat myself, but : playing suboptimally is not prohibited, and by being an actual strategy we have to consider the eventuality of it, factoring my recent discussion about it with FortColors" this is...weird are you implying that scum ddlc would vote their scum partner on d1, in this case you(albeit kliff is being voted by them rn)? this is a weird scumslip if ddlc reveals as scum at eodi am slightly afraid that we're hyperfocusing on ddlc on day 1 though so I like the safe idea of poking saltiestcactus23 for lurking/idling bbcode is a pain unvote: gary the savage Vote: saltiestcactus23 Why drawing such hasty conclusions ? I did not imply nothing, just said that we shouldn't force assumptions as the possibility may exist, and so did FortColors as per this post. I'll repeat myself, but : playing suboptimally is not prohibited, and by being an actual strategy we have to consider the eventuality of it, factoring my recent discussion about it with FortColors agreed. I see no reason whatsoever to rule out possibilities yet. DDLC is trying to force assumptions left and right and quite frankly I don't like it. However, it seems like its just a playstyle and I don't yet think its alignment indicative. We just need to be wary of incorrect assumptions. |
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Post by kliff on Jun 8, 2021 18:22:23 GMT
my argument was never about whether or not we could trust ddlc. just to restate my points: - ddlc started off this game with passive-aggressive meme filler - ddlc has repeatedly shut down discussion angles involving him with attacks on the pushers' credibility - ddlc has been showing an unnatural amount of self-image awareness with his responses to people's votes and how he tries to portray himself as townie as for partners, i've suggested the ddlc + vertigo pairing ever since like page 4 of this forum skyfigueroa since you were asking for a case on ddlc earlier you're free to use this post as reference thx sfl. ultimately ddlc has been a polarizing topic which doesn't make him a bad lynch so i'm not gonna actively try to stop it. prolly gonna focus more on my current reads still doe. i already said my opinion on the 1st point not sure if i'm gonna change my mind on that. gonna read back (maybe tomorrow nalang cuz i'm a bit tired) for the 2nd point cuz that's a really really valid one but my mind is foggy if he really did it a lot. just wanna comment on the 3rd one. i honestly dont think it's wrong if any faction of the game is conscious abt their self-image in-game. both scum/pr would wanna stay townie to avoid being lynched. vts wanna be townie to poe together more effectively. scum is def most likely of the three to be most obsessive but i wouldnt put it past anyone
A. Mafia trying to divert attention from ddlc
B. Mafia is taking advantage to the ddlc waggon
c. Town bus
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 8, 2021 18:24:22 GMT
I'm gonna start with
Unvote: SaltiestCactus
there's no point being on this wagon, it's completely nai and i doubt the slot's gonna hit 5 posts today. okay fair colors are pretty. After all, I am Fort and I like Colors :^). I'm glad someone else takes issue with kliff's posts because I couldn't tell if it was just godawful formatting and capitalization or if the posts themselves felt off. But I hate them. With a passion. quite frankly i think the reason the wagon was "overly stable" was 17 hours of no posts from ddlc, giving people no reason to move off. would you be interested in shifting to penguin as a the lurker pressure? someone else mentioned that sc23 probably just gets subbed out while penguin's done his bare minimum and dipped. typing in forums is hard idm shifting from sc23(not 43 :pensive:) to penguin but that might shift the weight from ddlc more than i want. current thoughts: A: Why are you Fos'ing on gary? // i didn't understand it. is it them being uncertain? but that would qualify as a townslip, since certainty is often correlatable to being the minority with info B: I really want to see ddlc defend against cyan's 3 point agenda post C: Switching between peng/sc isn't an issue, i still want to gather reactions since i haven't played with most of you :^ D: I should make a votecount whenever i post since god its confusing to not have that accessibly General reads: tl on cyan and gary rn, gary's may be subject to change if fortcolors has a sizable reason cyan's is primarily since i can understand the logic behind their push slight sl on peng, slightly larger sl on ddlc i suppose though i'm still miffed how the only way of getting attention on other players is wagoning onto penguin :/ i do agree ddlc is trying way too hard to be a town, but as we associate that with being a pr too we might just be poking a pr claim out on day 1 which would suck i will hard sr anyone who tries to jump from ddlc to whichever wagon of note is around rn(i think its just peng? and some 2-vote wagons?) i can't...figure out how to quote multiple people so um bear with me ; In reference to kliff just a couple notes post many of the points don't make sense to me, although i'm glad the penguin tr thing was pointed out(weird as all hell, might be scum spew, might be a random attempt to divert attention) why was cyan getting on ddlc weird, could you explain that while keeping in mind the current state of the game as compared to only the first post? considering that it was very early game there isn't necessarily much logic behind each vote. I'm assuming the teammates think alike thing was in reference to a possible scumteam of cyan+chaostrodon but again, people grasping on to the same point kinda makes that iffy in my opinion. other ramblings: currently my votepool probably has ddlc and penguin albeit i'm not voting either rn, i would also like to see a bit of pressure on quojova/kliff to seal a tl or uncover an sl i am curious on your reads so far and would love an elaboration quojova since i'm having some difficulty in seeing who you're voting rn(or want to vote rn), although the votecount showed a vote from you on chaostrodon. My fos on gary is for 2 reasons. 1) during my read-through he just felt extremely defensive to me. This was a gut feeling, and I quoted a post earlier that was particularly egregious. ("fake town...?") 2) he's been noncommittal about just about everything. The only thing he's been certain of is that ddlc is a memer, and everything else is just waffling about. There's a difference between town uncertainty and scum unwillingness to commit to something. Scum might hesitate to commit to a townlynch because they don't want to be scrutinized after, or they might hesitate to push a scumwagon even after saying "hmmmm x is scummy" because they won't want to lose a partner. To me, the difference is that gary seems to just be uncertain about everythingLook at my signature, I hate lurkers. to that end lynch penguindim expecting my 600 word essay any time now. |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 8, 2021 18:25:21 GMT
probably at something like this rn (not ordered): +++ wallape ++ ddlcfan69 skyfigueroa Cyan Talon + chaostrodon kliff null FortColors Vertigo - PenguinD articunight Gary the Savage thinking about which ones to elaborate on and who I even want to hang I need to reread fort Why has Cyan Talon gotten townpoints from you? I agree with Cyan's thoughts on kliff tho |
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Post by ddlcfan69 on Jun 8, 2021 18:35:12 GMT
Is your Argument more of the fact that ddlcfan69 can not be trusted? If you believe that ddlcfan69 is a goon, Who would be their likely partners. They are a lot of mixed opinions on ddlcfan69
my argument was never about whether or not we could trust ddlc. just to restate my points: - ddlc started off this game with passive-aggressive meme filler - ddlc has repeatedly shut down discussion angles involving him with attacks on the pushers' credibility - ddlc has been showing an unnatural amount of self-image awareness with his responses to people's votes and how he tries to portray himself as townie as for partners, i've suggested the ddlc + vertigo pairing ever since like page 4 of this forum skyfigueroa since you were asking for a case on ddlc earlier you're free to use this post as reference This was the first thing i wanted to respond to as it really is cyan beating a dead horse here and also cuz someone said they wanted me too... First of all it once again seems like im being tunneled for being super active in the early game and for the one your mom joke. This is just way too weak of of an arguement for me to say "oh I didnt like ddlcs tone so its sus lemme cherry pick other things from his iso that are similar without giving clarification as to why thats scum indicative until im forced to". Also the second point is just incorrect i never attacked anyones credibility even yours even though id like to. For the third point ill agree I have been self aware because the i feel the ppl who were pushing me and especially pushing the me + vertigo scumteam werent thinking about how scum approaches the game and instead soley focus on the fact that since I brought up Vertigo and no other lurkers we must be connected. This is a another lazy push I feel and I dont believe anyone has answered my questions on WHY i would bring up Vertigo if I was town and if I was scum WHY I would play like i did in the early game. clearly I didnt care about the repercussions of talking too much cuz as you've made clear I responded to every single push on me so what can i possibly gain as scum from doing this? I hope you know im not just bad at the game cyan and this was unintentional so id love to know what you think I tried to accomplish by what i said above. |
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 8, 2021 18:37:15 GMT
idk what kind of formatting is necessary but here you go
Vote: Penguind
Votecount:
Saltiestcactus23 (1): artic
Ddlcfan69 (3): penguinD, cyan talon, wallape,
penguind (2): kliff, fort
Cyan talon (2): vertigo, skyfigureroa
Gary the savage (2): chaostrodon
wallape (1): Gary the Savage
chaostrodon (1): quojova
my votecount is correct assuming the official one was correct.
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 8, 2021 18:38:13 GMT
uhm... i forgot to change the number on gary but the users are where they should be xd
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