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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 10, 2021 3:51:45 GMT
idk what i should ask at this very moment bc my nitpicks on u and arti were abt questioning specific ideas in the posts u made yday so im not sure if they even apply to rn
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Post by PenguinD on Jun 10, 2021 3:55:13 GMT
I count 7. Not that it matters, it's still basically lurking. But it does beg the question of why you're ignoring certain posts. I read through Fort's iso and he's still null he has some zingers but that's what he's good at I challenge those who tr fort (idk if those exist) to find one thing out of his scumrange Awwwww :fioblushy: how generous. ik that doesn't work here lemme find it LMAO i s2g i already had his iso pulled up when he only had 7 lines and i still fucking missed it. i literally was staring at it for like 3 whole minutes i'm actualy blind
yea i missed him mb. anywhere here's why i hopped on vertigo ps-mafia.proboards.com/post/76553 okay, fair enough. Defensiveness is such a huge part of our suspicions today though. How much are we overvaluing it (defensiveness) as a scumtell? This is a question for everyone, actually, since that seems to be the basis of most pushes today. Except penguin, fuck lurkers. It was to say that you are almost the perfect town :D I can't tell if this is a blatant pocket attempt or if he thinks this is meaningful discussion. Also im back time for one last drive unless i dont have plur anymore ...excuse me? You're not going to talk if you don't have plur anymore? what???????? Unvote: penguind
Vote: ddlc
I don't know where plur is at, but penguin is the one I wantED to lynch. Past tense. This post rubs me the wrong way so hard my hair now grows with the follicles hanging off the end
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 10, 2021 3:55:38 GMT
What did you ask me? I dont recall or actually have ur opinions on the reason for kill changed yet? the kill being randed thing was another one of those things u inferred and didnt justify while other ppl can get a different interpretation of. |
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Post by quojova on Jun 10, 2021 3:57:45 GMT
ngl i had a couple last night so bear w me if this gets convoluted. i dont feel like continuing the vertigo lynch cuz it went nowhere yday and it was annoying how i couldnt even shift since i didnt know who was on who and how many were on who. but yea wallape makes a decentpoint and i think i saw quo explain a toneread which i side w so i think i'll move my priorities for a while. a reason why i think verti lynch went nowhere was cuz he didn't rlly respond to wat i said, which i think is my fault cuz i didn't address him directly and he was sorta afk. but BRUH all my pushes yday went nowhere LMAO. like arti i definitely quoted u everytime i asked questions so i KNOW u got the notification smh. and chaos u've been one of the most active so ik u see them too vote: @articuknight ping for visibility btw without having isod vert recently I not much idea what I would read them as I would not automatically cross a vert wagon off the list |
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Post by quojova on Jun 10, 2021 3:59:18 GMT
ngl i had a couple last night so bear w me if this gets convoluted. i dont feel like continuing the vertigo lynch cuz it went nowhere yday and it was annoying how i couldnt even shift since i didnt know who was on who and how many were on who. but yea wallape makes a decentpoint and i think i saw quo explain a toneread which i side w so i think i'll move my priorities for a while. a reason why i think verti lynch went nowhere was cuz he didn't rlly respond to wat i said, which i think is my fault cuz i didn't address him directly and he was sorta afk. but BRUH all my pushes yday went nowhere LMAO. like arti i definitely quoted u everytime i asked questions so i KNOW u got the notification smh. and chaos u've been one of the most active so ik u see them too vote: @articuknight ping for visibility Notifications are crowded with FortColor's likes so dont rely on them you can disable like notifications in the settings I assume pretty much anyone who has played with fort has done this lol but atp it's kinda just tradition |
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Post by quojova on Jun 10, 2021 4:00:25 GMT
penguin's last two posts are so flat
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 10, 2021 4:03:41 GMT
ngl i had a couple last night so bear w me if this gets convoluted. i dont feel like continuing the vertigo lynch cuz it went nowhere yday and it was annoying how i couldnt even shift since i didnt know who was on who and how many were on who. but yea wallape makes a decentpoint and i think i saw quo explain a toneread which i side w so i think i'll move my priorities for a while. a reason why i think verti lynch went nowhere was cuz he didn't rlly respond to wat i said, which i think is my fault cuz i didn't address him directly and he was sorta afk. but BRUH all my pushes yday went nowhere LMAO. like arti i definitely quoted u everytime i asked questions so i KNOW u got the notification smh. and chaos u've been one of the most active so ik u see them too vote: @articuknight ping for visibility btw without having isod vert recently I not much idea what I would read them as I would not automatically cross a vert wagon off the list fair i just thought my vertigo lynch achieved nada and i think i might achieve more/read easier with a different lynch |
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Post by wallape on Jun 10, 2021 4:06:43 GMT
What did you ask me? I dont recall i def called it out a few times when u would look at a couple lines and go "i feel x towards y bc of these posts" and i think i def asked u at least once or twice to go in depth with these kinds of reads bc it so easy for someone to look at the same said lines and draw a completely different conclusion, and without justifying ur side u can't rlly convince said person otherwise. if not lazy, then they feel sorta like bs reads which is why i personally dont agree w ppl tling u cuz i dont see what they see in u yet What i like about chaos is how he started off d1 with some of his takes on rvs (even if they were kinda eh), it kinda got the ball rolling for us to break out of the rvs stage and go into actual serious territory, I dont think scum does that there instead of continuing the meme |
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Post by quojova on Jun 10, 2021 4:12:39 GMT
i def called it out a few times when u would look at a couple lines and go "i feel x towards y bc of these posts" and i think i def asked u at least once or twice to go in depth with these kinds of reads bc it so easy for someone to look at the same said lines and draw a completely different conclusion, and without justifying ur side u can't rlly convince said person otherwise. if not lazy, then they feel sorta like bs reads which is why i personally dont agree w ppl tling u cuz i dont see what they see in u yet What i like about chaos is how he started off d1 with some of his takes on rvs (even if they were kinda eh), it kinda got the ball rolling for us to break out of the rvs stage and go into actual serious territory, I dont think scum does that there instead of continuing the meme gonna hard disagree with this because chaos's first 3 posts are not out of any sort of scumrange at all expecting that scum will always just continue to meme and not have any basic understanding of how the game tends to progress is unrealistic imo |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 10, 2021 4:22:30 GMT
yea that's kinda nai to me. in fact, there might even be incentive for scum to start the convo since people tend to have a liking for people generating discussion. but it's kinda wifom to make a read for that cuz it goes both ways
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 10, 2021 4:37:00 GMT
Vertigo is probably town based on ddlc flip bc i don't see a world where scum!vertigo pushes cyan in that situation since he too knows that it's a weak connection, and that the only reason he would be voted was if ddlc would flip scum as well. That makes me think vertigo legit believes cyan is scum even though his progression seemed fine. That being said I feel fine with my town reads/leans of quo/sky/cyan/vertigo/Llama (in descending order) to vote someone from the remaining out. Also found it weird that nearly everyone on the PL srd peng but he only had 2 votes eod and wasn't even the main cw, even though he had plur at one point I think? I don’t understand why I only had 2 yday as well. FortColors’ last second shift to ddlc is looking mighty suspicious though… vote fortcolors oooh Brave move there , little man |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 10, 2021 4:41:42 GMT
or actually have ur opinions on the reason for kill changed yet? the kill being randed thing was another one of those things u inferred and didnt justify while other ppl can get a different interpretation of. I dont care anymore. Not gonna factor the kill too much in my reads |
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Post by kliff on Jun 10, 2021 5:37:10 GMT
Vertigo is probably town based on ddlc flip bc i don't see a world where scum!vertigo pushes cyan in that situation since he too knows that it's a weak connection, and that the only reason he would be voted was if ddlc would flip scum as well. That makes me think vertigo legit believes cyan is scum even though his progression seemed fine. That being said I feel fine with my town reads/leans of quo/sky/cyan/vertigo/Llama (in descending order) to vote someone from the remaining out. Also found it weird that nearly everyone on the PL srd peng but he only had 2 votes eod and wasn't even the main cw, even though he had plur at one point I think? I don’t understand why I only had 2 yday as well. FortColors’ last second shift to ddlc is looking mighty suspicious though… vote fortcolors
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Post by kliff on Jun 10, 2021 5:45:48 GMT
How do you get that? I feel like it was totally randed , like they decided to roll a die or something Vote : Gary the SavageI don't think you roll a die and land on the only kill that gives us literally no information whatsoever from interactions. I agree completely with cyan's analysis, but would like to point out a third possibility: they wanted to avoid both protection prs we have.  |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 10, 2021 5:59:27 GMT
Well played my goon, however you didn't Even Vote.
Why is that? My man PenguinD straight up referred to himself as a lurker in the follow up post |
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Post by kliff on Jun 10, 2021 6:21:26 GMT
Im considering a possible scumteam of Gary the savage , The Wall Ape and Vertigo rn  Ok, What do you think of this then? Judging from the Votes It would be kind of hard to believe. Unless You believe that some soft bussing/distancing is occurring. If that's the case then Gary
would be the pivot here. On one side he's voting a "partner" and then being voted by a "partner". The strength behind the votes does seem questionable. |
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Post by kliff on Jun 10, 2021 6:28:32 GMT
Well played my goon, however you didn't Even Vote.
Why is that? My man PenguinD straight up referred to himself as a lurker in the follow up post |
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Post by wallape on Jun 10, 2021 6:32:41 GMT
What i like about chaos is how he started off d1 with some of his takes on rvs (even if they were kinda eh), it kinda got the ball rolling for us to break out of the rvs stage and go into actual serious territory, I dont think scum does that there instead of continuing the meme gonna hard disagree with this because chaos's first 3 posts are not out of any sort of scumrange at all expecting that scum will always just continue to meme and not have any basic understanding of how the game tends to progress is unrealistic imoNot sure what you mean by the part in red I was just saying scum has no incentive to progress game state from rvs stage to serious stuff but I can see sky's point in it being wifomy as well |
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Post by quojova on Jun 10, 2021 6:41:21 GMT
gonna hard disagree with this because chaos's first 3 posts are not out of any sort of scumrange at all expecting that scum will always just continue to meme and not have any basic understanding of how the game tends to progress is unrealistic imoNot sure what you mean by the part in red I was just saying scum has no incentive to progress game state from rvs stage to serious stuff but I can see sky's point in it being wifomy as well all I mean is that every single mafia game ever features people reading other people based on how much perceived work they are putting in it's not anything out of the ordinary at all to anticipate that as scum because it happens every game |
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Post by wallape on Jun 10, 2021 6:42:55 GMT
Where did vertigo vote Gary btw? I see 1 post from them that puts Gary in their scumpool but other than that not much regarding Gary.
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Post by quojova on Jun 10, 2021 6:50:11 GMT
voting flat penguin before I go to bed
vote penguind
will probably do actual things in this game tomorrow because I'm now completely done with schoolwork :oooo
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Post by wallape on Jun 10, 2021 6:56:32 GMT
Regarding user ddlcfan69: is ddlcfan negtown? Atm yes, yes they are. Does this mean that they are scum? No, no it does not. I've argued this point time and time again amd will continue to do so. Voting town just because they are negtown doesn't do any good nor does it advance the town wincon, which should be the goal. Rather, to vote negtown town is hypocritical as by doing so you are negtown yourself. It'd be much better and more telling on your own part, if you are town, to vote who you believe scum is. As much as I'd like for ddlc to stop meming as much as they are as it isn't getting anywhere, they're negligence as town does not make them scum. Leading into the further point as to why I don't like th sfl shift. First off, they took the opportunity to get on negtown when ddlc said "ur mom..." Was this unnecessary on ddlc's part. Yes. Should it be considered a scumtell, not imo. However, as aforementioned constant filler isn't ideal. The other issue is I don't like how easily sfl got off wallape. They seemed satisfied enough with basically NAI. Hence why I've gotten on wallape, as the justification to sfl getting off really isn't there, and with the shift was unnecessary. Wouldn't be surprised if its a potential early game bus.Now, by no means am I saying ddlc is town. But ddlc, if you are, advance your own wincon and don't help scum by being negtown. Because they can just take control and take advantage. And if you sr ddlc for reasons beside negtown filler, get on them and see what I care, but if thats it, I'm uncertain. Um sir if u do think this is true then why did you want to vote me over cyan? Atp cyan was being pushed by vertigo as well, whereas I had near no traction. Surely if you thought both of us were scum then you'd vote the person with more traction? Also basing ur read on us on *A SHIFT FROM RVS VOTE* is also an extremely weak reasoning. While my previous sr on u was based heavily on ur tone, this gives me more reasons to vote u so... Unvote Penguin d, Vote GaryTheSavage |
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Post by wallape on Jun 10, 2021 6:57:27 GMT
I count 7. Not that it matters, it's still basically lurking. But it does beg the question of why you're ignoring certain posts. Awwwww :fioblushy: how generous. ik that doesn't work here lemme find it okay, fair enough. Defensiveness is such a huge part of our suspicions today though. How much are we overvaluing it (defensiveness) as a scumtell? This is a question for everyone, actually, since that seems to be the basis of most pushes today. Except penguin, fuck lurkers. I can't tell if this is a blatant pocket attempt or if he thinks this is meaningful discussion. ...excuse me? You're not going to talk if you don't have plur anymore? what?  ? Unvote: penguind
Vote: ddlc
I don't know where plur is at, but penguin is the one I wantED to lynch. Past tense. This post rubs me the wrong way so hard my hair now grows with the follicles hanging off the end
Shifts off a lurker bc of a nai line, to secure gary not being voted perhaps? I like this hot take upon fort+gary i want to see u expand upon this sir |
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Post by wallape on Jun 10, 2021 6:58:18 GMT
I'll probably end up voting bw gary and peng 2day but id love to see gary respond to the above :]
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Post by cyan on Jun 10, 2021 7:32:23 GMT
needless to say that ssr/sc had not spoken a word throughout the game scum has very little benefit in pursue a shot like that, the only benefit being that it gets rid of a townie but because that one benefit would apply to any possible scumteam in this pl it also means the kill is virtually untraceable essentially: - killing ssr would have had no effect on the collective town mindset, hence my conclusion 1 - killing ssr wouldn't have a significant effect on the image of any player, hence conclusion 2 both of these are possibilities, but it's safe to say that anyone who appears to be in a strong position with no enemies would not be in favour of either of those ig this tells me skyfigueroa and possibly quojova/fortcolors/wallape are low-priority atm this is ultimately not very consequential because it comes with too many assumptions but wouldn't a scumteam in a strong position want to limit the shifts in town mindset as much as possible by killing off the only player available to offer new perspectives? yeah. that's kinda what i was saying in point 1. scum in that position would want to maintain status quo, and the best kill for that would be the silent slot because it results in no new minds and a lack of changed existing ones in the pl actually scratch that I just remembered something Unvote: GTSVote: Kliff what did u remember exactly to want to swap votes? that i'd come to a scumlean on kliff sometime late in d1, that i proceeded to forget about as the night happened I don't think you roll a die and land on the only kill that gives us literally no information whatsoever from interactions. I agree completely with cyan's analysis, but would like to point out a third possibility: they wanted to avoid both protection prs we have. unnecessarily targeting fortcolors with the meme when scum could've been anyone else feelsweirdman |
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