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Post by cyan on Jun 10, 2021 7:42:30 GMT
i'd also like to take a bit of your time to introduce you to another potential wagon focus: kliff. notice the following posts So, Whats your Stance. Do you think there is any pocketing or not?
Is your Argument more of the fact that ddlcfan69 can not be trusted? If you believe that ddlcfan69 is a goon, Who would be their likely partners. They are a lot of mixed opinions on ddlcfan69
Am I to assume that you think Cyan is a town lean? a majority of kliff's interactive posts have been asking one-line questions on clarifying other players' positions. these types of posts don't actually contribute much towards scumhunting and i kinda think kliff would know that? also, the fact that kliff's reads are being served in the form of a read wall instead of through direct engagement in discussion is kinda weird to me. i'm not sure if they're approaching the game from a third-party perspective or are trying to avoid being personally involved in deeper stuff. also, it's a lot easier to be passive when posting read walls here's the post in question outlining the read on kliff i made earlier. tl;dr kliff's reads have been in the form of simple walls expressing reads on every single player in the game, and their questions have been focused on clarifying information as opposed to digging new things out. i don't see kliff making an argument against any specific player and fleshing it out as the game progresses, so they seem more reactionary to everything than actively scumhunting |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 10, 2021 7:53:41 GMT
Cyan Talon trying to rile up fort colors vs kliff by misinterpreting a meme - noted
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 10, 2021 7:54:46 GMT
Im considering a possible scumteam of Gary the savage , The Wall Ape and Vertigo rn  Ok, What do you think of this then? Judging from the Votes It would be kind of hard to believe. Unless You believe that some soft bussing/distancing is occurring. If that's the case then Gary
would be the pivot here. On one side he's voting a "partner" and then being voted by a "partner". The strength behind the votes does seem questionable. Ok then what about GTS , Wallape and kliff/ Fortcolors |
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Post by kliff on Jun 10, 2021 8:36:56 GMT
Ok, What do you think of this then? Judging from the Votes It would be kind of hard to believe. Unless You believe that some soft bussing/distancing is occurring. If that's the case then Gary
would be the pivot here. On one side he's voting a "partner" and then being voted by a "partner". The strength behind the votes does seem questionable. Ok then what about GTS , Wallape and kliff/ Fortcolors
You tell me. Where are these pairings based on? was your original post just some random thought that came out from your rear end?
 to answer your question, I don't think so(especially with me in there). I have a Cyan/peguinD/Gary post currently in the making |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 10, 2021 8:48:24 GMT
Ok then what about GTS , Wallape and kliff/ Fortcolors
You tell me. Where are these pairings based on? was your original post just some random thought that came out from your rear end?
to answer your question, I don't think so(especially with me in there). I have a Cyan/peguinD/Gary post currently in the making No , its me trying to fit scum!Gary into a team I thought Cyan / Gary too but that thing today about voting Gary and then immediately switching to you saying he remembered something was a big brain distancing tactic for a scum!Cyan . Scum!Cyan with a scumpartner Gary coming into the start of day having decided to bus Gary makes sense Scum! Cyan coming into the start of day deciding to hard push you also makes sense.
But switching his vote like that makes it seem authentic. Its a nice maneuver from scum!Cyan
So basically , Cyan is either pretty smart or not scum with Gary.
Im gonna go with the later theory until I have exhausted all other options |
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Post by wallape on Jun 10, 2021 9:18:49 GMT
You tell me. Where are these pairings based on? was your original post just some random thought that came out from your rear end?
to answer your question, I don't think so(especially with me in there). I have a Cyan/peguinD/Gary post currently in the making No , its me trying to fit scum!Gary into a team I thought Cyan / Gary too but that thing today about voting Gary and then immediately switching to you saying he remembered something was a big brain distancing tactic for a scum!Cyan . Scum!Cyan with a scumpartner Gary coming into the start of day having decided to bus Gary makes sense Scum! Cyan coming into the start of day deciding to hard push you also makes sense.
But switching his vote like that makes it seem authentic. Its a nice maneuver from scum!Cyan
So basically , Cyan is either pretty smart or not scum with Gary.
Im gonna go with the later theory until I have exhausted all other options What would u say after accounting for gary voting for me d1 over cyan |
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Post by wallape on Jun 10, 2021 9:20:16 GMT
Ok then what about GTS , Wallape and kliff/ Fortcolors
You tell me. Where are these pairings based on? was your original post just some random thought that came out from your rear end?
to answer your question, I don't think so(especially with me in there). I have a Cyan/peguinD/Gary post currently in the makingWondering how penguind and Gary get put together as a scumteam based on wagonomics of d1 votes though |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 10, 2021 10:29:36 GMT
What would u say after accounting for gary voting for me d1 over cyan That was fricking RVS Besides , Gary loves bussing |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 10, 2021 10:38:39 GMT
Regarding user ddlcfan69: is ddlcfan negtown? Atm yes, yes they are. Does this mean that they are scum? No, no it does not. I've argued this point time and time again amd will continue to do so. Voting town just because they are negtown doesn't do any good nor does it advance the town wincon, which should be the goal. Rather, to vote negtown town is hypocritical as by doing so you are negtown yourself. It'd be much better and more telling on your own part, if you are town, to vote who you believe scum is. As much as I'd like for ddlc to stop meming as much as they are as it isn't getting anywhere, they're negligence as town does not make them scum. Leading into the further point as to why I don't like th sfl shift. First off, they took the opportunity to get on negtown when ddlc said "ur mom..." Was this unnecessary on ddlc's part. Yes. Should it be considered a scumtell, not imo. However, as aforementioned constant filler isn't ideal. The other issue is I don't like how easily sfl got off wallape. They seemed satisfied enough with basically NAI. Hence why I've gotten on wallape, as the justification to sfl getting off really isn't there, and with the shift was unnecessary. Wouldn't be surprised if its a potential early game bus.Now, by no means am I saying ddlc is town. But ddlc, if you are, advance your own wincon and don't help scum by being negtown. Because they can just take control and take advantage. And if you sr ddlc for reasons beside negtown filler, get on them and see what I care, but if thats it, I'm uncertain. Um sir if u do think this is true then why did you want to vote me over cyan? Atp cyan was being pushed by vertigo as well, whereas I had near no traction. Surely if you thought both of us were scum then you'd vote the person with more traction? Also basing ur read on us on *A SHIFT FROM RVS VOTE* is also an extremely weak reasoning. While my previous sr on u was based heavily on ur tone, this gives me more reasons to vote u so... Unvote Penguin d, Vote GaryTheSavagebecause sfl was and still is significantly more town than you. Vote: PenguinD |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 10, 2021 10:41:59 GMT
also can someone elab on how verti is town?
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Post by wallape on Jun 10, 2021 10:53:17 GMT
Um sir if u do think this is true then why did you want to vote me over cyan? Atp cyan was being pushed by vertigo as well, whereas I had near no traction. Surely if you thought both of us were scum then you'd vote the person with more traction? Also basing ur read on us on *A SHIFT FROM RVS VOTE* is also an extremely weak reasoning. While my previous sr on u was based heavily on ur tone, this gives me more reasons to vote u so... Unvote Penguin d, Vote GaryTheSavagebecause sfl was and still is significantly more town than you. Vote: PenguinDThe only rationale u mentioned for voting me was that you thought cyan was bussing me. Nothing in ur iso states that you found me scummy besides this reasoning. I don't see how you can vote me vote me for being less townie when your basis is that someone else is scum. |
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Post by cyan on Jun 10, 2021 11:02:01 GMT
Cyan Talon trying to rile up fort colors vs kliff by misinterpreting a meme - noted it's what i do best. also are you just going to label this as "rile up"? i'd think that if kliff did not have an existing FortColors read they would have worded it as "scum did not want lurkers to survive" instead of "you did not want lurkers to survive" Ok then what about GTS , Wallape and kliff/ Fortcolors
You tell me. Where are these pairings based on? was your original post just some random thought that came out from your rear end?
to answer your question, I don't think so(especially with me in there). I have a Cyan/peguinD/Gary post currently in the makinglooking forward to it. also +1 on the pairings part also can someone elab on how verti is town? wallape explained it so i'm paraphrasing: vertigo counterpushed when i mentioned ddlc/vertigo as a scumteam. if vertigo was scum, he would have known that ddlc was town; given the fact that i showed no intention of getting off the ddlc wagon, scum!verti had no incentive to intervene in that aside from maybe attempting to buddy up to ddlc although given that vertigo was on the gts wagon yesterday that is a very possible explanation |
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Post by Gary The Savage on Jun 10, 2021 11:12:18 GMT
okay that works if im scum but im not lmao
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Post by Vertigo on Jun 10, 2021 11:57:54 GMT
gm, school today i'll be done with it in a few hours, in the meanwhile Vote Gary The Savage for the reasons I gave last day that made me shift from Cyan.
Will post my thoughts about current state of game later.
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 10, 2021 12:23:40 GMT
been reading back for like the last hour to cross off some pairings right off the bat. only 7 pages in right now cuz im doing it while doing my homework too lol but i dont see gary and cyan together mostly cuz of when gary calls out sfl for his shift to ddlc. but at the same time ur preparing a wallpost so i'm guessing ur gonna point out the interactions im thinking abt so imma just wait
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 10, 2021 12:24:22 GMT
^referring to kliff btw forgot to quote
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 10, 2021 12:51:25 GMT
Cyan Talon trying to rile up fort colors vs kliff by misinterpreting a meme - noted it's what i do best. also are you just going to label this as "rile up"? i'd think that if kliff did not have an existing FortColors read they would have worded it as "scum did not want lurkers to survive" instead of "you did not want lurkers to survive" Ok now you are making me question my understanding of a meme I thought it was explicitly Fortcolours coz he had I hate lurkers in his signature and also keeps talking about how he hates lurkers |
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Post by cyan on Jun 10, 2021 13:01:06 GMT
okay that works if im scum but im not lmao w-what you're telling me that scum!verti would only have pushed you if you were scum? |
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Post by cyan on Jun 10, 2021 13:02:36 GMT
it's what i do best. also are you just going to label this as "rile up"? i'd think that if kliff did not have an existing FortColors read they would have worded it as "scum did not want lurkers to survive" instead of "you did not want lurkers to survive" Ok now you are making me question my understanding of a meme I thought it was explicitly Fortcolours coz he had I hate lurkers in his signature and also keeps talking about how he hates lurkers ngl i was unaware of his hatred towards lurkers. i stand with him on that though point still stands, kinda. |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 10, 2021 14:21:22 GMT
so many people sring gary and a lot of it was since early-mid d1 too. it's hard for me to pinpoint him to a team. even arti one of the lurkers was one of the first to get on gary yday.
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Post by kliff on Jun 10, 2021 14:22:44 GMT
Gary - scum lean
Looking at Gary Iso something Seems off. It like they are maneuvering in a way where they are avoiding deeper Interactions? or maybe Conflict?. They had their moments of trying to avoid accountability. It like they have their way of participating but indirectly. Gary seems like the most scum likely candidate for me and I will look into partnerships with my other 2 scum leans
Gary/PenguinD/Cyan the scum trio?
Cyan -> Gary
Looking at Gary Interactions with Cyan. The progression on the read on Gary from Cyan was basically like 1.Eh +1, 2.Eh null, 3. Eh not necessarily scummy 4.Eh Fos. In the posts quoted in 3 and 4, Cyan comments that his behavior is “common for scum but not necessarily scummy” That just sounds very contractionary. What I got from it is that Cyan acknowledges Gary’s behavior but decides to leave it up in the air as if it's still a null read? A couple of posts later, Cyan answers the question about why they FOS Gary, and it seems seemed like a short mafia 101 lesson(not choosing a stance). Since they answer the question I assume that their stance on them is null-scum. There isn't anything wrong with the progression itself, But these actions could play a part when it comes to possible partnerships.
Gary -> cyan
Gary's Interactions with Cyan are left at “undecided” and never really revisited. Their interaction is just a straight-up “I don’t know” with no follow-up after that post iirc.
Gary -> penguin & Penguin -> Gary
➤Day 1
Once upon a time, Penguin asks Gary a question. Gary notices the question and replied with an answer. The End. However, the interaction did seem like Town v scum. I don't see penguin asking their scum partner THIS
➤Day 2
Gary votes penguin
Cyan -> penguin & Penguin -> cyan
0. Make sense.
In Conclusion
Potential Teams
!scumPenguinD could be teammates with Both but less likely with Gary
!scumCyan Could be teammates with Both
!scum Gary Could be teammates both but likely Cyan but less likely with penguin
No, they are probably not all partners together
In Conclusion, I gather all my main scum leans and try to see if they are scum-compatible and believe at least 1 scum in this trio pair. I'm usually always wrong with trio-scum so I estimate there is at least 1 town in this also. Gary may not be the most scum-compatible but they are the best vote.
Vote Gary The Savage
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Post by wallape on Jun 10, 2021 14:26:59 GMT
Cyan -> penguin & Penguin -> cyan
0. Make sense.
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Post by PenguinD on Jun 10, 2021 14:27:43 GMT
I don’t understand why I only had 2 yday as well. FortColors’ last second shift to ddlc is looking mighty suspicious though… vote fortcolors
  Why is that?Would’ve voted gary yday if i hadn’t run out of time. Thought we had an extra hour to do stuff |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 10, 2021 14:31:46 GMT
Cyan -> penguin & Penguin -> cyan
0. Make sense.
what do you mean by this part specifically? p sure it says zero interactions |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 10, 2021 14:32:23 GMT
also gonna take a while to process that cuz it hurts my eyes reading cyan's posts lol
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