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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 19, 2021 11:40:36 GMT
Have you considered the possibility that they werent scrambling simply because they werent there this lmao
spending time with cute girl is significantly higher priority than mafia game ngl and i can assure you if you look at my activity when I'm here vs when I'm not you can see a difference
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Post by wallape on Jun 19, 2021 11:45:17 GMT
Wow guys fort isn't a real gamer lets policy him....
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 12:51:09 GMT
Have you considered the possibility that they werent scrambling simply because they werent there I have but this is just a distraction from the main point it doesn't change that articu and wallape are very high town |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 12:53:13 GMT
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 12:54:22 GMT
I want to mention that the threadstate feels kind of acrid rn and that's probably partially due to me
I would like to get it back to a more natural level
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 12:57:23 GMT
Doubt scum!fort votes the only alive person semi-tr'ing him as well as the person who's been townleading so far hmm Gary's vote on fort is throwing me off hard here ngl. Might consider nai but at the same time does gary dare to put his scum partner who is arguably in a more secure position in a situation someone can randomly shift and kill him Been thinking it over and I think the only y reason scum!fort does this is likely bc their partner is being pushed by quo and partner flipping means he insta loses... so I think sky is the only viable partner I see for fort in this situation unless I'm missing something. Sky + chaos also makes sense here so I think a sky vote is OK info wise.. if sky flips town scum team for me is just chaos/kliff and if sky flips scum then we can go fort into chaos and win. I agree with this I think ftr tho sky is not an info hang he just has the highest scumchance |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 13:15:18 GMT
gary has ascended
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Post by wallape on Jun 19, 2021 13:36:34 GMT
im glad i disabled like notifications id have gone crazy if fort AND gary liked all of my posts here
vote sky
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 19, 2021 13:51:20 GMT
i like posts that i've read carefully as part of the game. you'll notice i haven't liked posts in a while
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Post by Fort Colorcastle on Jun 19, 2021 13:51:41 GMT
.... i should sleep lol
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 19, 2021 14:12:21 GMT
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 19, 2021 14:13:00 GMT
or at least who their top FOS is for today
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 19, 2021 14:20:46 GMT
as for me, its looking like fort>kliff>chaos right now. havent been able to check their isos but from what i can recall, kliff's progression is kinda like 1.) starts with a light fos on gary 2.) sr starts to escalate as kliff tries to case him with a potential team 3.) gary sr slowly wanes. whereas chaos' is just constant pressure almost to the point that it was kinda fanatical. with those progressions alone i wiuldve fosed chaos more but his frustration today kinda theows me off and makes me back off a bit
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Post by smallworldz on Jun 19, 2021 19:54:04 GMT
(hammer 4)
Voted:Votee
Skyfigureroa(2)*:Quojova,Wallape
Fortcolors(1):Chaostrodon
Quojova(1):Fortcolors
Not Voting(3):Skyfigureroa,Kliff,Articunight
Deadline is in 29 hours from writing of this post
If deadline was now skyfigureroa would be voted off
Let me Know if I missed anything.
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 21:51:18 GMT
anyone alive
I reread the sky iso and I'm leaning sky->chaos->fort
will read into kliff a bit more
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 22:00:00 GMT
Gary - scum lean
Looking at Gary Iso something Seems off. It like they are maneuvering in a way where they are avoiding deeper Interactions? or maybe Conflict?. They had their moments of trying to avoid accountability. It like they have their way of participating but indirectly. Gary seems like the most scum likely candidate for me and I will look into partnerships with my other 2 scum leans
Gary/PenguinD/Cyan the scum trio?
Cyan -> Gary
Looking at Gary Interactions with Cyan. The progression on the read on Gary from Cyan was basically like 1.Eh +1, 2.Eh null, 3. Eh not necessarily scummy 4.Eh Fos. In the posts quoted in 3 and 4, Cyan comments that his behavior is “common for scum but not necessarily scummy” That just sounds very contractionary. What I got from it is that Cyan acknowledges Gary’s behavior but decides to leave it up in the air as if it's still a null read? A couple of posts later, Cyan answers the question about why they FOS Gary, and it seems seemed like a short mafia 101 lesson(not choosing a stance). Since they answer the question I assume that their stance on them is null-scum. There isn't anything wrong with the progression itself, But these actions could play a part when it comes to possible partnerships.
Gary -> cyan
Gary's Interactions with Cyan are left at “undecided” and never really revisited. Their interaction is just a straight-up “I don’t know” with no follow-up after that post iirc.
Gary -> penguin & Penguin -> Gary
➤Day 1
Once upon a time, Penguin asks Gary a question. Gary notices the question and replied with an answer. The End. However, the interaction did seem like Town v scum. I don't see penguin asking their scum partner THIS
➤Day 2
Gary votes penguin
Cyan -> penguin & Penguin -> cyan
0. Make sense.
In Conclusion
Potential Teams
!scumPenguinD could be teammates with Both but less likely with Gary
!scumCyan Could be teammates with Both
!scum Gary Could be teammates both but likely Cyan but less likely with penguin
No, they are probably not all partners together
In Conclusion, I gather all my main scum leans and try to see if they are scum-compatible and believe at least 1 scum in this trio pair. I'm usually always wrong with trio-scum so I estimate there is at least 1 town in this also. Gary may not be the most scum-compatible but they are the best vote.
Vote Gary The Savage eh I don't really think kliff thinks this is the time to bury his teammate the gary wagon was the largest by a fair margin at the time but if he was going to put this much effort into I think that kliff would have realized that gary was salvagable this is not rock-solid evidence |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 22:06:59 GMT
kliff flips off gary veeeeery unexpectedly
not super comfortable with sky->chaos->fort anymore although I probably never will feel super comfortable with the sequence we go with
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 22:07:32 GMT
i can't believe u made graphs lmao why do you think gary should be voted later/cyan should be voted right now? I'm losing faith in the Gary read and gaining more confrontable with a Cyan Flip. Gary death would of been more preferable yesterday. i dont really get this |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 22:29:10 GMT
literally everything about chaos's d4 and d5 makes sense in a chaos/gary team Honestly , at this point I would rather a fortcolors vote than Gary. He might be pushing the counterwagon every time to protect scum!Gary as I am thinking or he might doing it to keep Gary vs Me and the dwindling group of people against Gary fight going on the questionable shift to fort after his beliefs on gary got validated by weird cfds like 3 times probably if gary is scum at least one of fort or sky are partnered with him because I don't find the gary-kliff scumteam very appealing if I were to eliminate the possibility of a gary-sky team I would be very on board with this what do you think about a gary-sky team? if I'm scum with exactly vert and not you why do I orchestrate the shift madness onto chaos then cyan in a way that might just draw votes off of your wagon when your flip is pretty much secured? is the argument that I would try to get you hanged on d4 by preserving you on d3 as scum to maximize townkills? that sounds like a really far-fetched play to make as maf though and one that I know I personally would not make although admittedly that is just me saying that - that play sounds highly unnecessary To keep the fight of Gary vs Others going on , as I said before. Keeping a TvT fight in full swing is beneficial to scum and it is not a bad strategy for scum!quojova or scum!Fortcolors to keep switching the lynch to counterwagons so that we can continue to fight over Garyit occurs to me that articu is not a super compelling partner to gary from how he just went on chaos unless the team is exactly articu+gary+vert which I highly doubt which would make a team involving gary likely to be exactly gary + fort + sky which seems to indicate a smaller likelihood of gary being scum but I need to actually see if that exact scumteam is actually something I can buy How tf is he not a super compelling partner from that? This is a very classic mafia move wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Chainsaw_Defense&redirect=no I too doubt the team of articu + gary + vert Simply because I doubt this team survived this long , and articu + vert def did not have the necessary influence to shift people off Gary 3 frickin times. **Vote fortcolors** I think this is the ideal vote for today the unexplained but confident tr on sky and that he literally never, ever even for a moment considered sky to be a plausible gary partner Cmon man , Sky aint scum There is a reason he made it to everyone's townlists initially (including you , I believe). This is making me sus of you No , they are not . Its much more likely to be fort than sky . Believe pls , I have been thinking of Gary partners since d2 If you are talking about his voting patterns , sky was sheeping you most of the time His reason for Gary being town is he 'feels it in his guts' . If scum sky wanted to defend scum Gary , he would have come up with a stronger reason than that Besides his feelings on Vert/Kliff sounds genuine. These are not the only ones , There are several times in the game when I looked at sky posts and thought they were genuine and town He just has terrible guts this entire wack sequence of posts defending sky for reasons that seem super fabricated anyway im on a roadtrip so ill rest my eyes for a bit. if i can hop on laptop ill try to choose between chaos and kliff again. quo pls just consider scum teams that do not include me while im gone. thankss Wait whatt? You know what you can fucking die to Quo's tunnel. Your terrible reads might as well cost as the game this momentary aggression towards sky after people started to catch on to a possible chaos/sky scumteam How so? Just cause they voted with you? You accuse my tone based reads of being hasty. Your reads of vote with me - town , not vote with me - scum is even more simplistic And why even are kliff and fort incompatible this unreasonable expansion of the poe without good reason everything fits together if chaos is partnered with sky the question that clearly remains if it chaos actually bussed gary from d1 I think it is plausible |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 22:30:39 GMT
the question that clearly remains is if chaos actually bussed gary from d1 ebwop |
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 22:36:50 GMT
so i feel good about sky->chaos (assuming sky flips scum)
idk where you would go d3 if chaos is not scum
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Post by quojova on Jun 19, 2021 22:41:50 GMT
i wonder if chaos-kliff is possible
i kinda doubt it
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Post by quojova on Jun 20, 2021 2:49:30 GMT
shoutout to gary for being active
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 20, 2021 2:50:21 GMT
Are you fucking kidding me
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Post by quojova on Jun 20, 2021 2:50:45 GMT
lmao
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