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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 20, 2021 6:05:21 GMT
is the only thing going for fort being scum his vote pattern? for me, i guess? its poe at this point i feel |
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Post by wallape on Jun 20, 2021 6:06:41 GMT
that makes him look a lot scummier imo I want to know people's game plan if fort flips town/scum. from my pov sky vote results in game solve so im going to be pushing for that. why do you think that makes him scummer? |
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 20, 2021 6:19:53 GMT
because quo feels pretty town at this point and it just feels like he's grasping for straws by throwing the sr to him
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Post by wallape on Jun 20, 2021 6:27:09 GMT
ya but why does he push the only person who's defending him instead of pushing someone like u who's already being pushed by quo
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Post by wallape on Jun 20, 2021 6:29:08 GMT
that and gary's last minute shift to fort are the main reasons im feeling reluctant to lynch fort over someone else in the POE
I can see chaos' reason wrt gary shifts happening when fort was around though
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 20, 2021 6:36:42 GMT
ya but why does he push the only person who's defending him instead of pushing someone like u who's already being pushed by quo uh true i mean i didnt put that much thought into it. but still if ur making me choose between fort or quo id still go for fort. if i try to look at forts perspective thru a scum lens (tho im only thinking of this now) me quo and fort r the ones who kept cwing so we become the major suspects, although thats just a guess and one that im not that confident in |
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Post by wallape on Jun 20, 2021 6:46:59 GMT
that's an interesting pov
I was thinking if its scum!Fort he pushes quo bc quo has one of his scum partners cornered here (that would be you/chaos, but since chaos has been actively pushing fort from yesterday that eliminates him)
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Post by articunight on Jun 20, 2021 11:46:08 GMT
gm i was awake for 8 hours and slept for 12 more, is votecount updated after this:
Skyfigureroa(2)*:Quojova,Wallape
Fortcolors(1):Chaostrodon
Quojova(1):Fortcolors
Not Voting(3):Skyfigureroa,Kliff,Articunight
i don't dislike sky or fort today tbh, but i will appeal to remove chaos tomorrow. I tr kliff, tl quo and wape the scumpool is pretty much out there from my pov
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Post by skyfigueroa on Jun 20, 2021 12:21:08 GMT
articunight me and kliff r voting fort btw. whor u voting i might fall asleep and wake up when its too late to catch up
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Post by wallape on Jun 20, 2021 12:49:21 GMT
gm i was awake for 8 hours and slept for 12 more, is votecount updated after this: Skyfigureroa(2)*:Quojova,Wallape Fortcolors(1):Chaostrodon Quojova(1):Fortcolors Not Voting(3):Skyfigureroa,Kliff,Articunight i don't dislike sky or fort today tbh, but i will appeal to remove chaos tomorrow. I tr kliff, tl quo and wape the scumpool is pretty much out there from my pov I think its at : 3 Fort - sky/kliff/chaos 2 sky - me/quo 1 quo - fort |
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Post by smallworldz on Jun 20, 2021 13:39:19 GMT
(hammer 4)
Voted:Votee
Skyfigureroa(2):Quojova,Wallape
Fortcolors(3):*Chaostrodon,kliff,skyfigureroa
Quojova(1):Fortcolors
Not Voting(1):Articunight
Deadline is in ~12 hours from writing of this post
If deadline was now Fortcolors would be voted off
Let me Know if I missed anything.
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Post by kliff on Jun 20, 2021 15:38:28 GMT
Does anyone else feel like a massive wave of laziness just them cause damn I am feeling it?
Quick Thoughts:
Sky
Gary + sky can make sense however I believe Sky is town So, I would look elsewhere. Iifc Me and Sky express our intention on a Vertigo Vote more clearer than others.
For scum to kill !town Vertigo Would be a disservice for us. So, !scum Kliff/Sky I feel would rather Risk another slot for a kill even if that means the kill has a higher chance to fail.
Fort
iirc Fort has been interacting with Gary a lot non-aggressively and some of their posts seemed somewhat defensive.
Also, After Gary Scum leans fort their SL kinda disappears quite unnaturally. Would need to reread how fort developed on Gary slot.
Chaos
I still don't think Chaos is the Vote here. The hostility towards them Seems unnatural in terms how the number of players.
I Rather Go for a potential partner(if applicable) first than doubt the person who could be "fake Tunneling" for town Cred.
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Post by kliff on Jun 20, 2021 15:43:17 GMT
Quo/sky are pretty much my lock towns here. im glad i disabled like notifications id have gone crazy if fort AND gary liked all of my posts here vote sky |
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Post by chaostrodon on Jun 20, 2021 15:44:24 GMT
The Vertigo thing is just wifom.
Who do you think is last scum btw?
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Post by kliff on Jun 20, 2021 15:51:51 GMT
What are quo motivations for Voting Sky again? Is it because they have the higher percentage of being an Gary partner?
Feels like they would favor a chaos Vote here.
I think its strange how they switch to sky here.
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Post by kliff on Jun 20, 2021 15:58:42 GMT
Voted:Votee
(hammer 7)
Ddlcfan69 (4):Cyan Talon, Wallape,Articuknight,Fortcolors
Gary the Savage (3):Chaostrodon,Vertigo,Ddlcfan69
PenguinD (2):Kliff,Quojova
Wallape (1):Gary the Savage
Vertigo (1):skyfigureroa
Not Voting (2):Saltiestcactus23,PenguinD
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Post by kliff on Jun 20, 2021 16:08:28 GMT
The Vertigo thing is just wifom. Who do you think is last scum btw?
Will need more time to think. |
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Post by wallape on Jun 20, 2021 16:18:38 GMT
Doubt scum!fort votes the only alive person semi-tr'ing him as well as the person who's been townleading so far hmm Gary's vote on fort is throwing me off hard here ngl. Might consider nai but at the same time does gary dare to put his scum partner who is arguably in a more secure position in a situation someone can randomly shift and kill him Been thinking it over and I think the only y reason scum!fort does this is likely bc their partner is being pushed by quo and partner flipping means he insta loses... so I think sky is the only viable partner I see for fort in this situation unless I'm missing something. Sky + chaos also makes sense here so I think a sky vote is OK info wise.. if sky flips town scum team for me is just chaos/kliff and if sky flips scum then we can go fort into chaos and win. Quo/sky are pretty much my lock towns here. im glad i disabled like notifications id have gone crazy if fort AND gary liked all of my posts here vote sky basically that. I think sky vote results in game solve hence why im fine with voting unless someone convinces me my gamesolve is wrong I also thought quo made a v compelling case wrt sky+chaos |
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Post by quojova on Jun 20, 2021 16:31:16 GMT
yes as I have made clear I am voting sky because I believe he has the highest chance of being partnered with gary
his continued defense of gary for the past few days for reasons he was unable to articulate compellingly (reliance on appeal to emotion in d4) makes me think this
unlike pretty much every other slot in the game I am unable to find any partner interactions that point away from a sky-gary scumteam
and the reasons for tring sky have been very shallow up until now
like kliff you say you just "believe sky is town". that is super vague and unsatisfactory to me and I want some more from you there; like lines you think are out of his scumrange because I'm not seeing any
I'm not voting chaos rn because I think the gary push is fairly good evidence for him and a lot of my reasoning for chaos relies on a sky-chaos scumteam
although kliff/chaos is maybe possible
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Post by quojova on Jun 20, 2021 16:32:58 GMT
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Post by wallape on Jun 20, 2021 16:34:45 GMT
actually one problem here is if sky flips scum then who do we vote next bc literally everyone is pair-able with sky here zzzzz
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Post by quojova on Jun 20, 2021 16:37:40 GMT
if sky flips scum we probably flip kliff and chaos in some order
although we obviously also spend the next two days evaluating that closely and also considering a fort/sky team as well as others if we want
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Post by kliff on Jun 20, 2021 17:01:17 GMT
Gary the savage(4)*:Chaostrodon, Vertigo,kliff - cyan and penguin said they would lynch gary if he didn't have 4 votes *wallape shifted off late ok so this is the main reason why we thought the pressure on gary was p much overwhelming. cyan and pd we know are town. wallape shifting off late then returning to hard pressuring gary seems townie to me or at the very least crosses out a gary/wall pair. chaos has been on gary for 3 days straight so probably cross out chaos/gary pair too. so ok yea i guess looking back the wagon buildup doesn't make gary look AS townie, it does leave kliff/vert tho which is a pair i've found scummier than gary himself which means the wagon composition doesn't totally nullify the town points for gary for me. originally i wasn't confident with the gary lynch cuz i didn't buy ppls arguments on him. the d2 wagon build up only made that stronger, and my gary tr just gradually strengthened as the discussion around him became more polarizing. my gut still tells me gary is townie and tbh the only reason why the gary cws seem to be getting scummier and scummier is bc ppl who were part of the anti-gary movement are just dying off so obv the other side is gonna outnumber them. also im not in the best mood rn i was supposed to get vaccine today but got turned down at the site :p so im just gonna make this quick idk if its confirmation bias or close mindedness or whatever but i still feel okay with my trs on quo and townlean on fort. wallape looks a lot townier to me today. i still think gary is town but i don't mind his lynch if it makes everyone else relax at this point which leaves everyone else victim to poe, which is also why i still like the vertigo lynch after all these days. if vertigo is scum i feel like that makes a good case for kliff to be scum as well, judging by how he seemed to tr him around d2 or d3 i forget. chaos is still an enigma to me like when i try to look at his progressions and motivations or whatever they feel townie, but i can never really be sure cuz of former games. i think it'll be easier to read once we get a scum flip. and arti is arti, id probs put them in the same cat as verti but not as scummy, but depending on how gary flips it could easily go the other way around
Neglected Just like With Fortcolors. Gary is basically like "they town and yea" but with fort it like "1.they Sl, 2.Sliding by?, 3.no progression".
There seem to be an Lack of interactions on Gary's End. Though the lack of interaction could be a good reason for potential Partnerships
but, I don't think its the case with sky. Its the matter of the fact if there is a more favorable option. |
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Post by kliff on Jun 20, 2021 17:10:15 GMT
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Post by kliff on Jun 20, 2021 17:22:08 GMT
Now that I look fort-sky
Fort doesn't seem to talk about them at all really
Sky seemed to TL until Today
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