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Post by passthesaltdude on Jul 29, 2021 0:05:11 GMT
Read this post RN. @tourists @machodoc(s) @roleblocker @osvig @townpgo (joke at oms expense) scorr is town this is literally their only other post here. Alex + Scorrch is real and it’s manefisting im waiting for Sky to pop in and claim RB so we can get that triforce of bad claims
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Post by passthesaltdude on Jul 29, 2021 0:05:34 GMT
this is literally their only other post here. Alex + Scorrch is real and it’s manefisting im waiting for Sky to pop in and claim RB so we can get that triforce of bad claims I meant only other post for today*
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Post by passthesaltdude on Jul 29, 2021 0:07:39 GMT
HI I AM HERE I AM MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE DOC. N1 Spiderz every other night penguin who’s doc claim do you think is fake, Kaifs or Penguins
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 0:12:10 GMT
PenguinD is the Mafia because they let slip that it was probably SK!Vertigo and Maf!Articu that flipped. Note that in this scenario, Maf!Articu has to be the PGO, who was killed by Vertigo due to the nature of OSBP. They claim that it was "based on wagons." This is not information that can be deduced very easily from just "wagons" and it appears to be an attempt to appear productive when in fact they have leaked a little bit of info that they had due to being part of the Mafia faction. When pressured for more in-depth reasoning, they walked back their speculation with no resistance. PenguinD also claimed Macho Doctor in a position where they were going to be voted out. From a scum perspective Macho Doctor is the only powerrole that can not be counterclaimed immediately. To be fair, from a town perspective they would also claim Macho Doctor as it is their real role. They claimed to target Spiderz which is odd because Spiderz D1 was mediocre. They explained that they liked how Spiderz stuck to his vote (he parked on a Town), which to me doesn't seem to make the most sense. I also mentioned this earlier, but Spiderz became a sort of uni-tr after their D2 posts casing Erry. Note that PenguinD's claim came after that. It is also strange because they did not die even after claiming Macho Doctor which should have made them an easy target due to the fact that they can not be protected if they truly are Macho Doctor.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 0:14:49 GMT
Also I just don’t like how Scorrch has been pushing the narrative of like “Penguin Doc claim is fake, it’s 100% fake, can the real doc claim for real” and now that there is a doc claim with alex it feels really forced but also why would alex as scum claim doctor knowing there were two doctor claims since that’s a death wish unless 1- Scorrch is partners with alex and trying to get penguin voted out 2- Alex hasn’t read the game, and that’s why he claimed doc and that’s why he claimed doctor on penguin. (2 is very likely tbh) If they did not read game, why did they doc Penguin? 3- Alex has been reading [parts of] the game, but is also trolling
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 0:16:02 GMT
my head hurts
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 0:18:16 GMT
Forgot to mention in previous sring penguin quick rundown post. Peng's VP read was almost entirely based off of Maf!Arti being a partner.
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 0:20:05 GMT
There's been one nk two nights in a row I was roleblocked once This theory is inherently flawed at the first step schia derz peng one way or another something not very likely has occurred -sk was hit twice n1 to die despite having osbp, meaning for some reason articu or vert were targeted with a mafia kill -you are sk who hit one of litt/derz/ddlc since it has to be one of these pointing to second one and saying "hey this isn't very likely" doesn't actually help I rate the latter to be significantly likelier than the former because the latter makes sense from a kill perspective whereas the former does not
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 0:20:25 GMT
admittedly at the current moment resolving the doc situation does seem to be more important
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 0:33:20 GMT
PenguinD is the Mafia because they let slip that it was probably SK!Vertigo and Maf!Articu that flipped. Note that in this scenario, Maf!Articu has to be the PGO, who was killed by Vertigo due to the nature of OSBP. They claim that it was "based on wagons." This is not information that can be deduced very easily from just "wagons" and it appears to be an attempt to appear productive when in fact they have leaked a little bit of info that they had due to being part of the Mafia faction. When pressured for more in-depth reasoning, they walked back their speculation with no resistance. PenguinD also claimed Macho Doctor in a position where they were going to be voted out. From a scum perspective Macho Doctor is the only powerrole that can not be counterclaimed immediately. To be fair, from a town perspective they would also claim Macho Doctor as it is their real role. They claimed to target Spiderz which is odd because Spiderz D1 was mediocre. They explained that they liked how Spiderz stuck to his vote (he parked on a Town), which to me doesn't seem to make the most sense. I also mentioned this earlier, but Spiderz became a sort of uni-tr after their D2 posts casing Erry. Note that PenguinD's claim came after that. It is also strange because they did not die even after claiming Macho Doctor which should have made them an easy target due to the fact that they can not be protected if they truly are Macho Doctor. would derz be or not be a partner to peng in this scenario IYO or is it unclear this slip could be real tbh to be clear though even if this theory is true it doesn't necessarily make vert sk just 3p and I think cultrod or surv there is actually a lot likelier
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 0:35:13 GMT
who is the third in the peng+articu world
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 0:36:23 GMT
brb getting haircut will certainly think about this in the meanwhile though
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 0:47:22 GMT
PenguinD is the Mafia because they let slip that it was probably SK!Vertigo and Maf!Articu that flipped. Note that in this scenario, Maf!Articu has to be the PGO, who was killed by Vertigo due to the nature of OSBP. Correction: they said vert 3p. PGO stuff doesn't matter there. so current votecount shows padgett and peng and i'm reluctant to vote either after seeing litts post i feel like pengs actions so far are moreso nai rather than scum-indicative on the basis of them doing the same stuff as town in iotl 3 i don't feel confident enough in my padgett read to plop a vote thats not going to shift until dl since i'm going to fall asleep in the next 15 minutes(i hope) i do now feel surprisingly confident in the GTS vote being TMI. A non-town flip here signifies scum being overly relaxed imo which should under the same thought process make peng and padgett townier. I'm not sure what a town flip would signify here though but i don't think scum litt needs to grasp onto this for a read unless they flip with padgett/peng. unvote littelevenvote Gary the savagetl;dr gary did TMI gary scum implies townlean on padgett/peng gary town kinda gives litt+padgett/peng as a potential team but i find that unlikely litt scum doesn't need to grasp onto gary's message like that unless one of his partners is being voted what is a threadflake? Schiavetto ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Eh, after further reading, arti could be 3p from this post. Earlier just looked at wagon position kek basically, if informed scum looked at a two player wagon they'd theoretically react differently if they knew it was tvt, or knew it was svt, and would act with different degrees of indulgement(?) basically why do you think there's scum in you / vet because of the articoo post i get that it's gut but kind of need more to chew off I feel like Arti made an attempt to spew me and VP as Town. The scumpool quote I feel like Arti was confused to as why they were put into a pool with VP. Also Arti looks to have attempted to save VP d1. This is what I mean about walking back maf!arti read but then using maf!arti to case vp.
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 1:02:29 GMT
who is the third in the peng+articu world thought about this while reskimming isos; probably sky also om is more scummy than i remember but he did vote peng early on though so probably not partnered
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 1:27:01 GMT
fwiw I think sk is still alive and is om
I'm really not sure atm on which of the docs is fake but I think there might be an argument to just keep them alive to resolve on their own
this changes if we are super confident on which doc is the fake though
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 1:28:17 GMT
does alex have a track record for this kind of thing as either alignment
it seems so out of character for town or scum from what i've heard of his reputation
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 1:58:00 GMT
ok so like
kinda have to start again from the top
conftown: ddlcfan69 passthesaltdude
1 scum in: penguind kaif alexander489
3 scum in: skyfigueroa omroom quojova scorrchingtheaph spiderz
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 2:02:04 GMT
I lean pretty strongly that the 1 scum in the doc pool is peng or alex
and tbh I COULD possibly see a world where scorr is town but not really seeing any townchances for sky or om rn
even scorr being town is a stretch because it would mean derz is scum
but this peng play from him is actually really gutsy if he is not scum and he is not partnered with alex
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 2:06:55 GMT
so okay if peng is scum the team is vert+sky with om as sk in all likelihood
and then scorr/derz as cult or surv?? i guess
if alex is scum the team is actually probably like scorr+sky with om still as sk
those would be my current guesses
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 2:09:04 GMT
does scorr as 3p here push peng like this
im kinda doubting it actually
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 2:11:52 GMT
it SEEMS like the constants here are that om is sk and sky is maf
admittedly this conclusion also feels a bit half-baked rn
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 2:16:07 GMT
we need more opinions
if anyone checks back into the thread they should give opinions on peng v alex v kaif
I'm currently leaning peng as the imposter actually since rn alex doesn't really have a scumcase on him besides "he's so scummy" which is admittedly true whereas the peng scumcase makes some logical sense to me
but also not really settled
and then we also need to decide if voting in doc claims is even the right play
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Post by quojova on Jul 29, 2021 2:19:57 GMT
i might be gone a fair bit before dl tomorrow btw
will see what i can do though
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Post by PenguinD on Jul 29, 2021 2:19:58 GMT
I trust the Kaif doc claim more than the Alex claim because
A: The way I’ve been pushed by Kaif definitely looks like doc thinking that the claim is from scum, based on how they stayed on. B: Scorr’s immediate vote after Alex claiming, as if they were waiting for their partner to end up claiming before they could push me. C: Alex went to soft survivor fsr d1
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Post by PenguinD on Jul 29, 2021 2:20:15 GMT
vote Alex oops
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