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Post by Kaif on Jul 29, 2021 7:04:45 GMT
im quite sold on the surv!vertigo argument honestly
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 7:05:23 GMT
When did I say OM can not be mafia or cultrod? I specifically said I think he is not scum with a nightkill. You did say that yeah, I don't understand that post you quoted from OM though so I'm not sure how that means he is not Scum with NK 1. He slipped (intentionally or not is up for debate) and said pgo was town and I do not anticipate that coming from maf!OM. 2. Sk is dead imo tbh ngl bro |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 7:10:47 GMT
All 3 are not bad enough that they would not claim as survivor. Question though what would you do if OM claimed survivor here? sky subbed in, to be fair. Also what you are implying is that Surv!Vertigo or Surv!Articu wouldn't have claimed which also has around the same weight as anyone else I listed not claiming. If OM claimed Surv I would vote him tomorrow. I think articoo actually read the game (therefore would have seen posts about claiming survivor) and put out visibly bad faith things that make me think they are mafia/cultrod I think vertigo barely read the game, and stopped posting before you even asked survivor to claim so it is unlikely that he would see posts about claiming survivor, nor do I think he would have thought to claim survivor on his own due to inexperience in mafia in general. I am fairly confident that Vertigo was survivor. |
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Post by Kaif on Jul 29, 2021 7:12:21 GMT
ok scorr is scum if he spouts that sk and pgo died n1 shit again
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Post by Kaif on Jul 29, 2021 7:12:34 GMT
eye am gonna mald.
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 7:13:28 GMT
n1 schia n2 spiderz n3 ptsd Hold On Why Did You Visit PTSD N3 |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 7:13:48 GMT
sky subbed in, to be fair. Also what you are implying is that Surv!Vertigo or Surv!Articu wouldn't have claimed which also has around the same weight as anyone else I listed not claiming. If OM claimed Surv I would vote him tomorrow. I think articoo actually read the game (therefore would have seen posts about claiming survivor) and put out visibly bad faith things that make me think they are mafia/cultrod I think vertigo barely read the game, and stopped posting before you even asked survivor to claim so it is unlikely that he would see posts about claiming survivor, nor do I think he would have thought to claim survivor on his own due to inexperience in mafia in general. I am fairly confident that Vertigo was survivor. Nah u know vertigo's not a new player. he has played enough on ps to know how to play |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 7:14:00 GMT
(I can not find OM post)
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 7:15:05 GMT
ok scorr is scum if he spouts that sk and pgo died n1 shit again The strongman died n1. |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 7:15:33 GMT
I think articoo actually read the game (therefore would have seen posts about claiming survivor) and put out visibly bad faith things that make me think they are mafia/cultrod I think vertigo barely read the game, and stopped posting before you even asked survivor to claim so it is unlikely that he would see posts about claiming survivor, nor do I think he would have thought to claim survivor on his own due to inexperience in mafia in general. I am fairly confident that Vertigo was survivor. Nah u know vertigo's not a new player. he has played enough on ps to know how to play Forum inexperience? In chat mafia survivor claims don't actually mean anything special so he is most likely used to that |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 7:17:19 GMT
Nah u know vertigo's not a new player. he has played enough on ps to know how to play Forum inexperience? In chat mafia survivor claims don't actually mean anything special so he is most likely used to that Ik this is a fallacy too btw, but I did not treat survivor play any differently then how I played town in idea for majority of ps career and I really still do play the same in chat mafia |
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 7:19:00 GMT
spiderz Question: If we were playing Nomination and the nominations for today were PenguinD, Kaif, and Alexander489, who would you vote?
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 7:20:12 GMT
Forum inexperience? In chat mafia survivor claims don't actually mean anything special so he is most likely used to that Ik this is a fallacy too btw, but I did not treat survivor play any differently then how I played town in idea for majority of ps career and I really still do play the same in chat mafia A lot of players in chat mafia do not claim as survivor N1, this is pretty well known, especially considering amount of investment people put into PS mafia games where scum nightkilling survivor is not out of the realm of possibility, and Vertigo is not the best player at all, If he got survivor role I am sure that he did not think critically about how this would affect his normal play. |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 7:36:24 GMT
spiderz Question: If we were playing Nomination and the nominations for today were PenguinD, Kaif, and Alexander489, who would you vote? Good question, I was waiting on Alex's answer to my question first but it's ok, Kaif is most likely doc considering his push on PenguinD, jw Kaif if you read anyone else as doc then / misread something as a soft when you pushed penguin, Alex claiming he did not know penguin was macho doc is extremely unbelievable to me if he knew he himself was macho, are you really telling me that you though Doc was regular doc when you KNEW you were macho?? And even if you somehow missed your own macho did you forget how broken double docs are in setups??? Are you telling me that you didn't once fucking look at the setup??? |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 7:39:07 GMT
I think Alex is attempting to sort of push out this narrative of him being a noob clear and reinforce the idea that he is low effort town with the highly unrealistic claim that he did not know penguin was macho doc till now.
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Post by Kaif on Jul 29, 2021 7:52:00 GMT
spiderz Question: If we were playing Nomination and the nominations for today were PenguinD, Kaif, and Alexander489, who would you vote? Good question, I was waiting on Alex's answer to my question first but it's ok, Kaif is most likely doc considering his push on PenguinD, jw Kaif if you read anyone else as doc then / misread something as a soft when you pushed penguin, Alex claiming he did not know penguin was macho doc is extremely unbelievable to me if he knew he himself was macho, are you really telling me that you though Doc was regular doc when you KNEW you were macho?? And even if you somehow missed your own macho did you forget how broken double docs are in setups??? Are you telling me that you didn't once fucking look at the setup??? not at the beginning but I def thought scorr was softing doc from his push on peng at some point |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 7:53:17 GMT
Both of those things do actually lead me to a fallacy issue in the argument that "penguin must be scum because he is still alive even though he claimed doc" because while that argument does make sense if mafia was the only killing faction, it does not if SK was also alive because then we know SK killed either Litt, DDLC, or Me. We can eliminate ddlc because if SK was going for a PR penguin was right there + Docs.
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 7:53:48 GMT
(Post is not done hold on)
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Post by ScorrchingTheaph on Jul 29, 2021 7:57:38 GMT
An alive sk could have targeted a maf!peng who was protected bc Alex was trolling
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Post by Kaif on Jul 29, 2021 8:06:44 GMT
Both of those things do actually lead me to a fallacy issue in the argument that "penguin must be scum because he is still alive even though he claimed doc" because while that argument does make sense if mafia was the only killing faction, it does not if SK was also alive because then we know SK killed either Litt, DDLC, or Me. We can eliminate ddlc because if SK was going for a PR penguin was right there + Docs. how can we eliminate ddlc? At that time ddlc was the only confirmed pr. U can definitely make the argument that sk did not target penguin due to the fact that he was under heavy pressure and wasn't confirmed doc and u can also definitely make the argument that sk went for a sloppy ddlc kill thinking doc will be on a power player like schia rather than ddlc who was memeing the game and doing nothing. |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 8:13:41 GMT
![]()  pain |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 8:22:08 GMT
someone please cc this it is telegraphed I suppose it’s about time to claim… thank u mr. survivor we asked you for days I suppose it’s about time to claim… whatever it is, am I legally allowed to CC? what the fuck is happening if penguin claims tourist here I'm snap voting his ass Claim doc, was on derz last night why were you on derz Penguin could be lying and we would never know They were a townlean for me. Why? They were a townlean for me. why was he a townlean what did you like about him Penguin could be lying and we would never know it's so easy to lie Vote Penguin fuck lying all my homies hate lying other component that I had in my mind when writing this that i forgot to put on the page is that I am sure if schia is town they have some actual nuance to their read on you but I don't think that is the case for very many players in the game the problem is not really schia Problem is realistically the fact that half the game is skimming the game see: vp see: Erry see: peng Also this peng shift is scum motivated that man derz is a pretty good writer
currently contemplating between erry and peng btw om is not particularly townie to me I notice he's getting a fair amount of "good post"s from schia (which in a way I get; from how he's kinda vibing in the thread and not caring about being too aggressive) but I actually think it is leading to him getting a pass in terms of reads where it is not deserved because I don't think OM finds those sorts of posts to be very hard to replicate as scum bolding this part bc it's the only part of this post i'm really focused on atm this is what bugs me abt penguin's doc claim. derz IS a pretty decent writer. when he slows the fuck down and lays out his thinking. he wasn't doing any of that shit Day 1, though. Day 1 was frazzled, disorganized, directionless Derz. half his posts were illegible, and they were very scattershot. it's a big part of why I take issue with VP's professed SR on the slot (because everytime Veep comments on it, he somehow overlooks all the actually scummy things Spiderz did D1 and ends up talking abt vague shit that either did not happen or did not matter). for penguin to see spiderz d1 and think not only "This is town", but also "This is town that needs protection" is... a pretty big fucking stretch. I liked derz’s points during d1, and they also weren’t someone who just shifted from vote to vote and stuck with their’s. Which points. manner of peng's claim seemed fishy he doesn't feel the repentance of having to claim either Peng, however, is a slot I think we can get rid of vote pengAHHHH I DONT KNOW Very condensed but my point is if you read all of EoD from the claim and consider the context of penguin being a strong vote for this day and yesterday, it suggests that scum both had a similar mindset here as how to approach the penguin claim, since there was massive dispute on how towny penguin's claim. The massive pushback and pressure staying on penguin the next day is another indicator that both scum could have anticipated penguin being voted anyways even though he claimed doc |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 8:22:59 GMT
An alive sk could have targeted a maf!peng who was protected bc Alex was trolling wait |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 8:28:03 GMT
is this a real opinion that you hold It's literally a "bad play =/= scum" thing where penguin is being a lazy bitch bc he is a pr claim. Whereas erry is a ghost therefore we kill erry !_! OM's only mention of Penguin yday |
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Post by spiderz on Jul 29, 2021 8:36:04 GMT
IDT it's possible for OM to have seen the Schia claim and missed the fact that Schia had gotten roleblocked. Is this how SK reacts to knowing confirmed scum in his pov?
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